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Posted by: Valoraxel.7296

Valoraxel.7296

Is anyone having issues with landing skills that are precasted lately (last 2 days)? More than 50% of the time, using a CnD or Larc strike with steal/shadowstep will miss for me.

I’ve never had a problem with this before now.

Cloak missing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyYwI0BxJ4I&feature=youtu.be

Shadow shot missing: https://youtu.be/iJnVa2k6Ivk

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Posted by: Turamarth.3248

Turamarth.3248

No

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Posted by: MUDse.7623

MUDse.7623

just tested it a few times, at the same target you did and had no issues.

10k hours n still a noob

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Posted by: Valoraxel.7296

Valoraxel.7296

It’s a bit odd that it is suddenly happening to me considering I have been playing thief for such a long time now :/

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Posted by: Sir Mad.1092

Sir Mad.1092

I haven’t tried with daggers, but Weakening Charge + Steal works just fine.

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Posted by: SuperHappyGrunt.2591

SuperHappyGrunt.2591

tbh last night i had a few CnD steals that didn’t hit too, i just thought it was lag :/

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Posted by: Valoraxel.7296

Valoraxel.7296

I imagine that weakening charge would work fine since it hits multiple times but yeah, seems kinda odd.

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Posted by: DeceiverX.8361

DeceiverX.8361

@OP

You’re probably just jumping the gun a little bit on the steal cast (maybe lag, who knows). If you’re whiffing FS/Steal you’re probably casting steal too early. It won’t hone the target after the position re-adjustment, so you’ll whiff. The closer you steal to the end of the FS animation, the more reliably you’ll hit, as then your opponent can’t move out of the end of the animation as easily.

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Posted by: epoc.7941

epoc.7941

nope sword glitch tho i used to be able to do that seamlessly either im out of practice or its been patched…idk why anet said that its fine and considered it an intended functionality or something like that

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Posted by: Sir Vincent III.1286

Sir Vincent III.1286

Ever since they “fixed” Steal to require a target, then later on revert it back, it was never been the same skill. Something is going on that I can’t explain, but yes, pre-casting can fail and I have no idea why. It happened to me many times on moving targets even though they are well inside my casting range.

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Posted by: DeceiverX.8361

DeceiverX.8361

You’re out of practice, or lagging. I’m doing it in-game right now with no issues.

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Posted by: Sir Vincent III.1286

Sir Vincent III.1286

You’re out of practice, or lagging. I’m doing it in-game right now with no issues.

It doesn’t happen all the time, that’s the frustrating part. I have no idea what the conditions are and I cannot recreate the problem, it seems so random…and no it’s not lag because for everything else the timing is smooth then Steal will have a hiccup all of a sudden.

What I’m noticing is, there’s seems to be an algorithm or some function that figures out whether a Steal will produce a stolen item or not. Before they meddled with Steal, if the target is within range, even if the Thief failed to teleport next to the target due to terrain obstruction, a stolen item is produced. They “fixed” that but left an elusive bug.

http://sirvincentiii.com ~ In the beginning…there was Tarnished Coast…
Full set of 5 unique skills for both dual-wield weapon sets: P/P and D/D – Make it happen
PvE – DD/CS/AC – If that didn’t work, roll a Reaper or Revenant.

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Posted by: MadVisions.4529

MadVisions.4529

noothing like this. Should be client-server delay

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Posted by: Sir Mad.1092

Sir Mad.1092

Maybe you’re just trying too hard…

I mean… You know, it’s like the last time I was showing someone how to Withdraw forward (by turning the camera backwards – I don’t use extra shortkeys): I’m so used to that trick my fingers move on their own and I perform it without thinking about it. But that time, I was trying to do it knowingly, and failed repetitively (that was pathetic).

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Posted by: Valoraxel.7296

Valoraxel.7296

I really hope it’s me trying too hard because it’s really putting me off thief when I can’t even CnD + steal, haha.

The game has just been really buggy/odd for me in general. I tried a reinstall of the client after this happened.

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Posted by: DeceiverX.8361

DeceiverX.8361

You’re out of practice, or lagging. I’m doing it in-game right now with no issues.

It doesn’t happen all the time, that’s the frustrating part. I have no idea what the conditions are and I cannot recreate the problem, it seems so random…and no it’s not lag because for everything else the timing is smooth then Steal will have a hiccup all of a sudden.

What I’m noticing is, there’s seems to be an algorithm or some function that figures out whether a Steal will produce a stolen item or not. Before they meddled with Steal, if the target is within range, even if the Thief failed to teleport next to the target due to terrain obstruction, a stolen item is produced. They “fixed” that but left an elusive bug.

As of when I was doing it earlier today, I was doing it repeatedly for around 20 minutes intentionally trying to get it to bug out or something; nothing happened.

When I mis-timed it and used steal too early, it immediately whiffed a moving target.

As far as the gif above, I’m not really sure what I just watched o.o

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Posted by: Rastaman.9015

Rastaman.9015

I have been haveing trouble every since about two days ago with steal+infiltrators strike. For what ever reason i cant “double teleport” anymore. Now i have to In-Strike and then steal. Which leaves the enemy not immobilized. this frustrates me.

The class master. I enjoy all of the professions.

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Posted by: Valoraxel.7296

Valoraxel.7296

Okay, I am genuinely confused now. It is not an issue with my timing of steal + other skill as I swapped to d/p to play some pvp and found that shadow shot is missing stationary targets quite frequently.

I also noticed that backstab + steal was missing too but not skills like heartseeker + steal.

Video: https://youtu.be/iJnVa2k6Ivk

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Posted by: DeceiverX.8361

DeceiverX.8361

That’s very strange. In the video, you consistently missed every other SS as well. I just went in-game and tried to replicate it with no success; every skill (in sPvP as well) landed, no whiffed Shadow Shots at all, etc., even on the same golems.

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Posted by: Valoraxel.7296

Valoraxel.7296

I guess I’ll just take a break from thief and see if it fixes itself.

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Posted by: Lexander.4579

Lexander.4579

unstable ping can cause that, try to monitor your ping

Alex Shadowdagger – Thief – Blacktide

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Posted by: Sir Vincent III.1286

Sir Vincent III.1286

Okay, I am genuinely confused now. It is not an issue with my timing of steal + other skill as I swapped to d/p to play some pvp and found that shadow shot is missing stationary targets quite frequently.

I also noticed that backstab + steal was missing too but not skills like heartseeker + steal.

Video: https://youtu.be/iJnVa2k6Ivk

That’s almost like the same with CnD+Steal for me. It will teleport, steal an item, but no damage even though I go on stealth.

http://sirvincentiii.com ~ In the beginning…there was Tarnished Coast…
Full set of 5 unique skills for both dual-wield weapon sets: P/P and D/D – Make it happen
PvE – DD/CS/AC – If that didn’t work, roll a Reaper or Revenant.