Guild Wars 2

VICTORY SCREECH
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdN0NXgjsn8
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

So, who thinks we’ll get anything more than just a damage buff? If so, what should we get? Other than ricochet of course.

It needed a rework, not just a damage buff, but better than nothing. Still will be spam 3 forever and never use 2. Maybe Vital Shot will actually do damage though.

Rifles. Give Thieves kittening Rifles. Give them a ranged Condi option that doesn’t get nerfed to useless because pvp baddies whine about it. Also, we need a class that actually uses Rifles like Rifles. Engineers use them like shotguns and who the kitten actually uses Rifle on a Warrior for anything other than jerking around?

Dowski.8601:

Rifles. Give Thieves kittening Rifles. Give them a ranged Condi option that doesn’t get nerfed to useless because pvp baddies whine about it. Also, we need a class that actually uses Rifles like Rifles. Engineers use them like shotguns and who the kitten actually uses Rifle on a Warrior for anything other than jerking around?

Patch Notes:

Thief’s pistols have their barrels extended by 2-3 times the sizes. Range also increased to 1200.

Zero Day.2594:

Dowski.8601:

Rifles. Give Thieves kittening Rifles. Give them a ranged Condi option that doesn’t get nerfed to useless because pvp baddies whine about it. Also, we need a class that actually uses Rifles like Rifles. Engineers use them like shotguns and who the kitten actually uses Rifle on a Warrior for anything other than jerking around?

Patch Notes:

Thief’s pistols have their barrels extended by 2-3 times the sizes. Range also increased to 1200.

GENIUS!

Zero Day.2594:

Dowski.8601:

Rifles. Give Thieves kittening Rifles. Give them a ranged Condi option that doesn’t get nerfed to useless because pvp baddies whine about it. Also, we need a class that actually uses Rifles like Rifles. Engineers use them like shotguns and who the kitten actually uses Rifle on a Warrior for anything other than jerking around?

Patch Notes:

Thief’s pistols have their barrels extended by 2-3 times the sizes. Range also increased to 1200.

Thief Short Bow now casts Ice Storm

Zero Day.2594:

Dowski.8601:

Rifles. Give Thieves kittening Rifles. Give them a ranged Condi option that doesn’t get nerfed to useless because pvp baddies whine about it. Also, we need a class that actually uses Rifles like Rifles. Engineers use them like shotguns and who the kitten actually uses Rifle on a Warrior for anything other than jerking around?

Patch Notes:

Thief’s pistols have their barrels extended by 2-3 times the sizes. Range also increased to 1200.

>not 1,500
>not 1,800
What are we, casuals?

Zekeon.6950:

Zero Day.2594:

Dowski.8601:

Rifles. Give Thieves kittening Rifles. Give them a ranged Condi option that doesn’t get nerfed to useless because pvp baddies whine about it. Also, we need a class that actually uses Rifles like Rifles. Engineers use them like shotguns and who the kitten actually uses Rifle on a Warrior for anything other than jerking around?

Patch Notes:

Thief’s pistols have their barrels extended by 2-3 times the sizes. Range also increased to 1200.

>not 1,500
>not 1,800
What are we, casuals?

No. I’m a troll.

john woo approves of this change

Dowski.8601:

Rifles. Give Thieves kittening Rifles. Give them a ranged Condi option that doesn’t get nerfed to useless because pvp baddies whine about it. Also, we need a class that actually uses Rifles like Rifles. Engineers use them like shotguns and who the kitten actually uses Rifle on a Warrior for anything other than jerking around?

“Rifle for warrior getting a damage buff” huehue

Xytor.1267:

Thief Short Bow now casts Ice Storm

Hey, I’d be happy with Chill on Shortbow’s auto-attack… TIE: Shortbow

Zekeon.6950:

Zero Day.2594:

Thief’s pistols have their barrels extended by 2-3 times the sizes. Range also increased to 1200.

>not 1,500
>not 1,800
What are we, casuals?

I, for one, picked my Pistol skins on the basis of their lovely, smooth, metallic barrels.
Beautiful, sleek twin pistols…

Zero Day.2594:

Thief’s pistols have their barrels extended by 200-300 times the sizes. Range also increased to 1200.

Better this way.

Edit: Oh man..that just made me think of a potential April Fools Joke they could do…stretch weapon models into infinity.

blarghhrrkblah.3412:

Zero Day.2594:

Thief’s pistols have their barrels extended by 200-300 times the sizes. Range also increased to 1200.

Better this way.

Edit: Oh man..that just made me think of a potential April Fools Joke they could do…stretch weapon models into infinity.

…Wouldn’t that be hell on some of the weaker PCs among us?

Well, there’s certainly room for more improvement and flat damage wasn’t even the main thing wrong with the p/p set. Hopefully we hear more on Tuesday but in the meantime…

They need to rework pistol 1 & 2 so that it’s not just a 3 spamfest.

1200 range, bring back Opportunist

If you use IP with PP this will bring in more heals. If vital shot damage boosted 20 percent I think all it needs there is a further increase in speed as in 1/3 second rather than 1/2 second and it in a good place.

Number 2 still needs something.

Slowmelt.8547:

…Wouldn’t that be hell on some of the weaker PCs among us?

Ya but you have to admit it would be pretty funny if we just logged in one day to this mess.

Edit: I guess we could also just get abnormally huge weapons too

babazhook.6805:

If you use IP with PP this will bring in more heals. If vital shot damage boosted 20 percent I think all it needs there is a further increase in speed as in 1/3 second rather than 1/2 second and it in a good place.

Number 2 still needs something.

Replace it with a :

“recharge bullet” skill : no initiative cost, 10 second cool-down, recharge 6 initiative.

Tabootrinket.2631:

babazhook.6805:

If you use IP with PP this will bring in more heals. If vital shot damage boosted 20 percent I think all it needs there is a further increase in speed as in 1/3 second rather than 1/2 second and it in a good place.

Number 2 still needs something.

Replace it with a :

“recharge bullet” skill : no initiative cost, 10 second cool-down, recharge 6 initiative.

Are you being facetious?
That is well outside of the design paradigm.
If anything, it’d be a shot that recharges Endurance… which would actually be great, but that’s neither here nor there.

a trivial buff is trivial

making shadow embrace a minor trait, making acrobatics not suck or adding condition management/utility to CS would be what I’d call a buff

pistols are a lost cause

this list of changes is just an utter waste

I think it needs something unique that is not duplicated on other sets.

As example “Hail of lead”

Immobilize enemy player for 2s roll backward as firing reflecting all projectiles. Stunbreak. Evade 1s. 2 sec reflect.

You know what might be fun?
Make the autoattack do like… 60% of the damage it does now
and double it’s speed
and make it so that your shots have one of those little projectile destroying fields on them… or give us a trait for it, even.

Curve the bullet

The 20% damage buff is nice and all, but I’m not sure enough to be worth it. They NEED to add Ricochet back in some form, there needs to be some way to hit multiple targets at once.

It doesn’t have to the the exact old trait, they could make the bounce baseline to some of the skills, or turn them into piercing cones, or something, but you need to be able to hit more than one enemy at a time to make P/P worth it.

A 20% buff will barely make a difference. Vital Shot needs a faster attack speed at the least, and Body Shot needs to be redesigned into something worth using.

I hope there’s a lot more in Tuesday’s patch than the tidbits we were given.

I just can’t help but feel that Vital Shot does enough damage, but it needs to be cooler… you know?

Something gimmicky just to make it more fun.

The thing that needs a real power boost is Pistol 2.

Amante.8109:

A 20% buff will barely make a difference. Vital Shot needs a faster attack speed at the least, and Body Shot needs to be redesigned into something worth using.

I hope there’s a lot more in Tuesday’s patch than the tidbits we were given.

Pretty sure he said “At least 20%”, which makes me believe that some skills or some skill will get more. I don’t think they will add Ricochet in, though

There’s no way Ricochet is coming back. There may eventually be some other form of P/P AoE, though (piercing would still be best imo).

simple 20% dmg buff not going to change anything

we have to actively react to miriad of passives from other classes while having ourself little condi removal/heals/no protection/invuls and no access to survival due to consistent revealed spam

If you deal enough damage, you don’t need survivability.

Ghotistyx.6942:

If you deal enough damage, you don’t need survivability.

We are not talking PvE.

Ghotistyx.6942:

If you deal enough damage, you don’t need survivability.

Fine, but we neither deal enough damage, nor are able to survive. I posted some numbers about our “ridiculous burst” in the PvP forums. Against a competent player, we’re looking at a 0.5s window to deal damage to them after backstab. This leads to something like ~10k damage assuming all of it crits and is unmitigated (by protection or otherwise). I don’t think that being able to 100-0 is conducive to a skill-based environment, so the only reasonable option, in my opinion, is to boost survivability. How that will be done is up to debate, but it definitely needs help.

Edit: I should also mention that these numbers were found using the Light Armor golem, so these will be the highest possible numbers without modifiers.

blarghhrrkblah.3412:

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Edit: I should also mention that these numbers were found using the Light Armor golem, so these will be the highest possible numbers without modifiers.

Which is exactly what the balance team seems to test against, that and moose.

Ghotistyx.6942:

If you deal enough damage, you don’t need survivability.

Because watching someone die while you’re dying is totally rewarding. I know I love killing someone while I’m being stomped. Totes rewarding.