Guild Wars 2

GS sucks for starters.
Axe/shield is where its at. Toss a stun sigil on the shield for 2 sec stun.

Ive run full berserker warrior in wvw and have had those fun moments of getting on a Mesmer and staying there hacking into them with axe.

However, you are going to get melted with conditions. Without stealth or teleports you don’t really have a way to confuse an opponent about your position.

Enmity.3428:

Brutally bad. Never go it alone as a Warrior, always have allies by your side. Against any competent opponent you will, the overwhelming majority of the time, lose.

There’s nothing more to be said really.

you must not know how to play them right they are a great class for roaming and 1v1 and alot of fun

Sure, if you’re fighting idiots.

I just like to crush ppl like you with my warrior

fabz.4736:

Enmity.3428:

Brutally bad. Never go it alone as a Warrior, always have allies by your side. Against any competent opponent you will, the overwhelming majority of the time, lose.

There’s nothing more to be said really.

you must not know how to play them right they are a great class for roaming and 1v1 and alot of fun

Warriors are great for 1v1’s and I’m just doing it wrong.

Yeah, that must be it. Thanks.

your not mate, warriors are the most useless class in 1v1 uplvls and nobs are easy pickings, but when u meet other class on the same lvl they just wipe the floor with us. 1v1 is not for the heavyarmored classes. a rangers pet is more tough than us.

Last 3 fights against thief… (04:13), or my last video…you said that warr sux in 1vs1 ye?

Sorry but..all you people saying you get wiped 1v1..Thats You,not the class.I know your ego will probably be to big to accept this fact..But i know people,and myself included that have absolutely no problems soloing most classes.It’s just Mesmers/thiefs stay at #1 being the most troublesome,because of their endless ways to escape.You need to figure out how to control your enemy,not let them controlling you,and making use of utilities and traits for Survival,not toughness/vitality…

I think this discussion needs to clarify if this is WvW or sPvP.

Because these are two very different beasts.

Defektive.7283:

I think this discussion needs to clarify if this is WvW or sPvP.

Because these are two very different beasts.

id guess wvw; because of ‘roaming’ in the OP

1. rifle is a horrible weapon against any semi competent player; 1v1 your wind ups will be even more obvious (though its minorly more useful against mindless zerglings)
   - longbow performs arguably better against zergs though; due to its aoe capability (and ability to hit stuff on walls better)
2. x+shield is very good in wvw; shield offers a stun (which can be used to interrupt a heal or set up a big hit 1v1) and a block (which is immensely helpful against a zerg (especially if traited for reflect)
   - sword offers extra mobility; which would be great for roaming
   - axe offers higher damage and eviscerate
   - mace… i dont really have any experience of mace in wvw; i suppose the block would be useful if traited… but its a slow weapon with no gap closing (axe has cripple -and immob is traited-, sword has savage leap)

Linguistically Inept.6583:

Defektive.7283:

I think this discussion needs to clarify if this is WvW or sPvP.

Because these are two very different beasts.

id guess wvw; because of ‘roaming’ in the OP

Roaming is an sPvP term as well. It denotes a class / player whose job is to move between mid point and home/opponent point.

Essentially, highly mobile support role (either damage or damage mitigation based).

Historically, Thiefs / Ele’s / GS Warriors fit this niche.

Defektive.7283:

Linguistically Inept.6583:

Defektive.7283:

I think this discussion needs to clarify if this is WvW or sPvP.

Because these are two very different beasts.

id guess wvw; because of ‘roaming’ in the OP

Roaming is an sPvP term as well. It denotes a class / player whose job is to move between mid point and home/opponent point.

Essentially, highly mobile support role (either damage or damage mitigation based).

Historically, Thiefs / Ele’s / GS Warriors fit this niche.

i recalled hearing it in hotm map chat halfway through writign my response; mb; i dont play spvp (rank 22) as often as pve/wvw

Avlis.1392:

I just like to crush ppl like you with my warrior

Oh look, another chest thumping ape. Best of luck to you.

Caedmon.6798:

Sorry but..all you people saying you get wiped 1v1..Thats You,not the class.I know your ego will probably be to big to accept this fact..But i know people,and myself included that have absolutely no problems soloing most classes.It’s just Mesmers/thiefs stay at #1 being the most troublesome,because of their endless ways to escape.You need to figure out how to control your enemy,not let them controlling you,and making use of utilities and traits for Survival,not toughness/vitality…

Relax everyone, the ÜberEliteWarrior here says it’s just a l2p issue. We’re all wrong, the Developers are wrong too. The Warrior class is fine.

Most people run GS/Axe+Shield, but I have been using GS/Sword+Horn.

Why would anyone ever use Axe+Shield? Sword + Warhorn gives Warriors all the mobility they always cry for. I run away from 1vZerg situations almost as well as Thieves. The difference is, the zerg doesn’t expect me to get away.

People seem to be getting confused as to what form of play we are talking about. I personally don’t even consider WvW to be PvP, more like PvE with PvP elements. The key difference is that in WvW you can use food to make up for warrior’s shortcomings. Not to mention if you are fully geared out with Exotics and Ascended gear then of course you will do better than even multiple foes. Spoiler alert, most people in WvW don’t have great gear. The people who spend time on the forums like us tend to have invested a good amount of time into our characters and therefore we don’t hear from the majority, who tend to be more casual or at the very least haven’t optimized their build.

In SPvP there is no food, and this is where warrior is the weakest. Can you do well if you are more skilled than your foe? Of course you can. Will you lose the majority of fights 1v1 vs. a similarly skilled (even slightly less skilled) mesmer, ranger, or blind thieves, most likely. I just started to play guardian and already I’m see just how much better designed the class is as a whole. I see a whole lot less perks where I go “that’s useless,” which I do constantly with warrior. The traits also have a lot more synergy than warrior, so many that give additional buffs when you use aegis or different ways to apply burn or have interesting effects like boon stripping.

Meanwhile, warrior’s traits are much less interesting and more importantly don’t synergize anywhere near as well. In TPvP warriors don’t really “fit” into any role that another class couldn’t do better. You CAN bring one as a roamer but then you’re team will probably have to build around having one. The one advantage they have is that if they run GS/Axe+Shield with full glass they can kill mobs like Svanir/Chief faster than anyone else. But when it comes to being able to jump in and out of fights thief is better and when it comes to staying in the fight ele is better.

As for why Axe+Shield? If you take the unsuspecting foe trait a Shield Bash followed by Eviscerate is basically 100% crit chance which vs light classes can deal some 9k damage.

BurrTheKing.8571:

People seem to be getting confused as to what form of play we are talking about. I personally don’t even consider WvW to be PvP, more like PvE with PvP elements. The key difference is that in WvW you can use food to make up for warrior’s shortcomings. Not to mention if you are fully geared out with Exotics and Ascended gear then of course you will do better than even multiple foes. Spoiler alert, most people in WvW don’t have great gear. The people who spend time on the forums like us tend to have invested a good amount of time into our characters and therefore we don’t hear from the majority, who tend to be more casual or at the very least haven’t optimized their build.

In SPvP there is no food, and this is where warrior is the weakest. Can you do well if you are more skilled than your foe? Of course you can. Will you lose the majority of fights 1v1 vs. a similarly skilled (even slightly less skilled) mesmer, ranger, or blind thieves, most likely. I just started to play guardian and already I’m see just how much better designed the class is as a whole. I see a whole lot less perks where I go “that’s useless,” which I do constantly with warrior. The traits also have a lot more synergy than warrior, so many that give additional buffs when you use aegis or different ways to apply burn or have interesting effects like boon stripping.

Meanwhile, warrior’s traits are much less interesting and more importantly don’t synergize anywhere near as well. In TPvP warriors don’t really “fit” into any role that another class couldn’t do better. You CAN bring one but then you’re team will probably have to build around having one.

Food really doesn’t make WvW any better for Warrior, seeing as how ANY class can bring food the the table… Not to mention you are saying that WvW is a non-issue for Wars due to gear difference (I…..what?). Not really a valid argument.

If War isn’t balanced in tPVP, he isn’t balanced in ANY form of PvP, period. I don’t know why people try so hard to separate WvW from tPvP. If a class is underperforming in one, he will underperform in the other for all the same reasons.

Mine warrior is balanced in wvw. I sits on AC 24/7 and getting load of badgets. Idk what u guys complains about

Ballistic Mastery… Ftw

Warriors are great in WvW, solo we’re pretty terrible. Playing Warhammer and Ls/warhorn or LS/Shield I do exactly what I expect my class and build to do. Meat shield, take lots of damages, heal with shouts and have tons of toughness and Vit. While they beat on me my team finishes them off.

Sure Hammer has lots of knockdowns and stuns but if you want to last you sacrifice DPS. if you want DSP go GS or Dual Axe with LS/Warhorn or a ranged. You’ll still need support tho.

Most people who attack me end up getting borded since they can’t take me down and I can’t kill them and we go our separate ways lol. Once I got jumped by 3-4 guys and held them off till other passer byes showed up that was fun.

Just play what class you enjoy

I recommend GS/Hammer. I have been running it for a few months now, different trait setups but always the same weapon combo. There is not a single class that has enough stun breakers to hold out against a warrior that can land his hammer skills, especially when running leg specialist. For a war its all about managing your cooldowns well, and constantly keeping pressure on your opponent. I like using GS with the hammer because it allows for so much ability, making it easier to stay in your opponents face; rush, ww, and blade trail all force them to burn their endurance.

I feel like people rely too much on shield for their sustain, and axe for dps. Yea, axe autos and evisc hurts, and shield allows for a bit more sustain, but you lose mobility which mean when you roam in wvw you will have to commit 100% to a fight. And in 1v1 situations hammer has almost more burst than a full gs 100b and ww combo, the cc making the burst more reliable (whereas axe is a single dodgeable skill). Keeping constant cc and aoe pressure is much better in 1v1s and in bigger fights. As for tpvp, gs and hammer burst (earthshaker) allows you to get around the map quickly, and your three stuns and two immobs (with leg specialist) makes it soooo easy for your team to focus an important target down (esp. engis, necros, and mesmers) by forcing them to burn their few stun breakers early and continuing to cc them down.

Honestly though, almost any weapon combo is solid if you can time your skills well

Sil.4560:

It is BS. When I think of a great warrior, I think of one who doesn’t cower into using the tricks and gimmicks of other classes, but relies on his or her pure prowess to seize victory by the throat, fearlessly ripping down opposition and crushing it into the dirt before it ever has a chance to beg for mercy. We should be terrifying to behold, not casually brushed off.

You want to go 1vs15 and win.

Not gonna happen.

Avlis.1392:

Last 3 fights against thief… (04:13), or my last video…you said that warr sux in 1vs1 ye?

that’s wvw alright.. where open world pve-ers doesn’t know how to fight back..
feels like bullying newbies.. no?
i doubt you could do much if the thief decide to reset the fight..

Grounder.7381:

Avlis.1392:

Last 3 fights against thief… (04:13), or my last video…you said that warr sux in 1vs1 ye?

that’s wvw alright.. where open world pve-ers doesn’t know how to fight back..
feels like bullying newbies.. no?
i doubt you could do much if the thief decide to reset the fight..

Ur a warrior, not superman.

Sil.4560:

It is BS. When I think of a great warrior, I think of one who doesn’t cower into using the tricks and gimmicks of other classes, but relies on his or her pure prowess to seize victory by the throat, fearlessly ripping down opposition and crushing it into the dirt before it ever has a chance to beg for mercy. We should be terrifying to behold, not casually brushed off.

oh then you better roll a guardian that doesn’t need any tricks and gimmicks to get it’s skillkitten and deal high damage and have cool looking gap closing skills so you can go manly face to face and aoe burns like a real man

Avlis.1392:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBhPoS-cZt0

Last 3 fights against thief… (04:13), or my last video…you said that warr sux in 1vs1 ye?

random 1v1 enemies with condition build, while your build is made to counter conditions and food while enemies have none. thank you, really enlightened me.

Rok.5260:

Specifically Greatsword and Rifle Warriors? I like to have the option of melee’ing and ranging…

So ya, how are Greatsword/Rifle Warriors in 1v1 and Roaming?

You could go the epic route and run full berserker gear with ruby orbs. Then wait for unsuspecting lowbies to wonder by your tower then “Kill Shot” them from a distance for a auto down. It is always fun to auto down people; really funny doing it to that Elementalist/Guardian who thinks he/she is boss and goes b**** deep into your group.

@McFribble

People above were claiming that warrior was strong in WvW and posting cherry-picked videos. I was simply stating that because we can use items to say, limit the effect that conditions (which can destroy us) has on us, or simply having better gear than other players, can make us passable in WvW. The only major thing we lack as a class is sustainability and food gives us that, yes others can use it but warriors benefit the most from using it. I’d also say that most people in WvW have more experience with PvE than PvP, so a warrior with a PvP background can do good 1v1.

But because I feel OP was talking about our ability in SPvP and TPvP it has to be said that warriors leave a lot to be desired because we lack sustain while running DPS that classes like Thief and Mesmer have due to stealths and teleports. Not to mention excessive blinds (which is popular with thief now) and other conditions like perma poison that we are seeing more and more makes things even harder on the class. If you’re just better than them you could win but even a half decent mesmer can beat a warrior.

Enmity.3428:

Caedmon.6798:

Sorry but..all you people saying you get wiped 1v1..Thats You,not the class.I know your ego will probably be to big to accept this fact..But i know people,and myself included that have absolutely no problems soloing most classes.It’s just Mesmers/thiefs stay at #1 being the most troublesome,because of their endless ways to escape.You need to figure out how to control your enemy,not let them controlling you,and making use of utilities and traits for Survival,not toughness/vitality…

Relax everyone, the ÜberEliteWarrior here says it’s just a l2p issue. We’re all wrong, the Developers are wrong too. The Warrior class is fine.

Learn to read Please,before trying to make yourself look like a fool.I never said there isn’t anything wrong with warrior,but people saying they cant do a 1vs1 Are wrong or indeed need to learn 2 play.Thats why its so hard even trying to start a discussion with people like you,no actual responses,just a bunch of bull,hence im not even bothering most of the time.

Hey guys, I have been having great fun with one of Oppa’s build since I started last August. Its lost some luster since the nerf to quickness but it is still really strong, high dps with triplechop and insane amount of stuns. Having reflect missiles on the shield and mace 2 is a lifesaver and I have won many a 1v1 by timing it correctly and reflecting damage back to the sender

I have tried all builds and so far this is the best all round. You are slower than a GS roamer but the defense of the build makes up for that and you are not a one trick pony.

Full stun rotation with max adrenaline can be either:

Shield4, MaceF1, Switch weapons, Frenzy, Triple Chop for a few seconds and then Mace5. If they get out of it use Bulls Rush to close gap and finish them off.

Or (I prefer this one since the Quickness nerf)

Mace 5, Frenzy, Triple chop for a few seconds, Switch weapons, shield 4, mace 3 and then maceF1. If they move away use bulls rush.

With both of these timing is critical and you need to pull it off really fast but once you do you will drop a lot of their life and put them on defensive if you havent killed them. Bunkers and holders need to be “played” with first to get rid of boons and cooldowns.

Here is the build, not mine, Oppa is the one who came up with it!

http://en.gw2skills.net/editor/?fIAQRAnZ5ejgOxu1QuQMxBC0DscltceMeq0kUByA;TwAg0CnoMyYkwIrROjkGtGZAxGhJCA

If you search for videos on his twitch you will find some of him with this build and its really helpful to watch.

A word of warning, this build needs you to know at least a bit about the other classes so you can time your attacks and defensive CD’s. It is not a 3 button build to destroy in quick join!

Hope it helps some of those feeling underpowered with the warrior. I currently only seem to have issues with hunters mainly.

Avlis.1392:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBhPoS-cZt0

Last 3 fights against thief… (04:13), or my last video…you said that warr sux in 1vs1 ye?

Awesome video, now all I need to do is eat that -40% condition and +250 power buff in my tpvp games and I’ll be set. Oh wait… Also nice video of you killing people who didn’t have all that food buff advantage you’re sporting and most likely gear + weren’t looking for a fight.

Forestgreen.7981:

Avlis.1392:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBhPoS-cZt0

Last 3 fights against thief… (04:13), or my last video…you said that warr sux in 1vs1 ye?

Awesome video, now all I need to do is eat that -40% condition and +250 power buff in my tpvp games and I’ll be set. Oh wait… Also nice video of you killing people who didn’t have all that food buff advantage you’re sporting and most likely gear + weren’t looking for a fight.

Welcome in WvW

Shamon.2091:

Hey guys, I have been having great fun with one of Oppa’s build since I started last August. Its lost some luster since the nerf to quickness but it is still really strong, high dps with triplechop and insane amount of stuns. Having reflect missiles on the shield and mace 2 is a lifesaver and I have won many a 1v1 by timing it correctly and reflecting damage back to the sender

I have tried all builds and so far this is the best all round. You are slower than a GS roamer but the defense of the build makes up for that and you are not a one trick pony.

Full stun rotation with max adrenaline can be either:

Shield4, MaceF1, Switch weapons, Frenzy, Triple Chop for a few seconds and then Mace5. If they get out of it use Bulls Rush to close gap and finish them off.

Or (I prefer this one since the Quickness nerf)

Mace 5, Frenzy, Triple chop for a few seconds, Switch weapons, shield 4, mace 3 and then maceF1. If they move away use bulls rush.

With both of these timing is critical and you need to pull it off really fast but once you do you will drop a lot of their life and put them on defensive if you havent killed them. Bunkers and holders need to be “played” with first to get rid of boons and cooldowns.

Here is the build, not mine, Oppa is the one who came up with it!

http://en.gw2skills.net/editor/?fIAQRAnZ5ejgOxu1QuQMxBC0DscltceMeq0kUByA;TwAg0CnoMyYkwIrROjkGtGZAxGhJCA

If you search for videos on his twitch you will find some of him with this build and its really helpful to watch.

A word of warning, this build needs you to know at least a bit about the other classes so you can time your attacks and defensive CD’s. It is not a 3 button build to destroy in quick join!

Hope it helps some of those feeling underpowered with the warrior. I currently only seem to have issues with hunters mainly.

The problem with that build is that it’s as immobile as a Guardian without any of the survivability. If you end up in a 2v1 situation you’ll have no way to leave it and live, while most guardians can hold out in 2v1 situations till they get help. That being said Axe/Mace is a strong weapon choice as is Mace/Shield, just not both together. For a 1v1 that build may be OK but in any other practical application less so, I’m also not so sure about some trait choices.

I"m not saying the Warrior is ‘fine’ by any means, but the majority of you people act like you never win a battle.

I’m not even good at this game and I tend to win at least half of my 1v1 skirmishes in WvW or PvP, unless they are against classes that give EVERYONE difficulty (ie Thieves, Mesmers).

You’re giving Warriors a bad name with all the constant complaining. Yes, our class has problems. No, it’s not the terrible piece of kitten that you guys like to make it out to be. We’re still quite capable of taking down enemies.

THEmeltor.7295:

I"m not saying the Warrior is ‘fine’ by any means, but the majority of you people act like you never win a battle.

I’m not even good at this game and I tend to win at least half of my 1v1 skirmishes in WvW or PvP, unless they are against classes that give EVERYONE difficulty (ie Thieves, Mesmers).

You’re giving Warriors a bad name with all the constant complaining. Yes, our class has problems. No, it’s not the terrible piece of kitten that you guys like to make it out to be. We’re still quite capable of taking down enemies.

I’ll agree with this sentiment except in tournaments. Right now we have no place in tournaments what so ever.

Avlis.1392:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBhPoS-cZt0

Last 3 fights against thief… (04:13), or my last video…you said that warr sux in 1vs1 ye?

Where can i find: few Thiefs without stealth, rooted ranged class? Your enemies didnt use skills, or are they your friends just pretending that hey fight you??

This remind me about some guy who used to kill akitten friends in sPvP and record that….

Shamon.2091:

Hey guys, I have been having great fun with one of Oppa’s build since I started last August. Its lost some luster since the nerf to quickness but it is still really strong, high dps with triplechop and insane amount of stuns. Having reflect missiles on the shield and mace 2 is a lifesaver and I have won many a 1v1 by timing it correctly and reflecting damage back to the sender

I have tried all builds and so far this is the best all round. You are slower than a GS roamer but the defense of the build makes up for that and you are not a one trick pony.

Full stun rotation with max adrenaline can be either:

Shield4, MaceF1, Switch weapons, Frenzy, Triple Chop for a few seconds and then Mace5. If they get out of it use Bulls Rush to close gap and finish them off.

Or (I prefer this one since the Quickness nerf)

Mace 5, Frenzy, Triple chop for a few seconds, Switch weapons, shield 4, mace 3 and then maceF1. If they move away use bulls rush.

With both of these timing is critical and you need to pull it off really fast but once you do you will drop a lot of their life and put them on defensive if you havent killed them. Bunkers and holders need to be “played” with first to get rid of boons and cooldowns.

Here is the build, not mine, Oppa is the one who came up with it!

http://en.gw2skills.net/editor/?fIAQRAnZ5ejgOxu1QuQMxBC0DscltceMeq0kUByA;TwAg0CnoMyYkwIrROjkGtGZAxGhJCA

If you search for videos on his twitch you will find some of him with this build and its really helpful to watch.

A word of warning, this build needs you to know at least a bit about the other classes so you can time your attacks and defensive CD’s. It is not a 3 button build to destroy in quick join!

Hope it helps some of those feeling underpowered with the warrior. I currently only seem to have issues with hunters mainly.

This build was outdated in november 2012.

Defektive.7283:

THEmeltor.7295:

I"m not saying the Warrior is ‘fine’ by any means, but the majority of you people act like you never win a battle.

I’m not even good at this game and I tend to win at least half of my 1v1 skirmishes in WvW or PvP, unless they are against classes that give EVERYONE difficulty (ie Thieves, Mesmers).

You’re giving Warriors a bad name with all the constant complaining. Yes, our class has problems. No, it’s not the terrible piece of kitten that you guys like to make it out to be. We’re still quite capable of taking down enemies.

I’ll agree with this sentiment except in tournaments. Right now we have no place in tournaments what so ever.

I’ve never played any tournaments but yes, it looks like currently the Warrior is very unsuited for high level tournament play.

It just gets really old seeing people non-stop complain. Every profession forum is filled with people kittening about how terrible their class is and ‘X class gets everything’ and blah blah blah. Nobody’s class is as near as bad as they claim it to be, and many of them actually excel in many parts of the game.

is that the right trait layout. It has 2 of the worst adept traits for warriors slotted, and it’s for pvp?

THEmeltor.7295:

I"m not saying the Warrior is ‘fine’ by any means, but the majority of you people act like you never win a battle.

I’m not even good at this game and I tend to win at least half of my 1v1 skirmishes in WvW or PvP, unless they are against classes that give EVERYONE difficulty (ie Thieves, Mesmers).

You’re giving Warriors a bad name with all the constant complaining. Yes, our class has problems. No, it’s not the terrible piece of kitten that you guys like to make it out to be. We’re still quite capable of taking down enemies.

Oh, certainly. The problem is that it’s that much more difficult for this particular class, which it shouldn’t be if the game were properly balanced. With Anet’s history of giving us “buffs”, I can see why people are so loud about this issue. We can safely assume that they’ll look at our opinions and then give us a fraction of what we are actually calling for, at this rate.

shimzor.6057:

Shamon.2091:

Hey guys, I have been having great fun with one of Oppa’s build since I started last August. Its lost some luster since the nerf to quickness but it is still really strong, high dps with triplechop and insane amount of stuns. Having reflect missiles on the shield and mace 2 is a lifesaver and I have won many a 1v1 by timing it correctly and reflecting damage back to the sender

I have tried all builds and so far this is the best all round. You are slower than a GS roamer but the defense of the build makes up for that and you are not a one trick pony.

Full stun rotation with max adrenaline can be either:

Shield4, MaceF1, Switch weapons, Frenzy, Triple Chop for a few seconds and then Mace5. If they get out of it use Bulls Rush to close gap and finish them off.

Or (I prefer this one since the Quickness nerf)

Mace 5, Frenzy, Triple chop for a few seconds, Switch weapons, shield 4, mace 3 and then maceF1. If they move away use bulls rush.

With both of these timing is critical and you need to pull it off really fast but once you do you will drop a lot of their life and put them on defensive if you havent killed them. Bunkers and holders need to be “played” with first to get rid of boons and cooldowns.

Here is the build, not mine, Oppa is the one who came up with it!

http://en.gw2skills.net/editor/?fIAQRAnZ5ejgOxu1QuQMxBC0DscltceMeq0kUByA;TwAg0CnoMyYkwIrROjkGtGZAxGhJCA

If you search for videos on his twitch you will find some of him with this build and its really helpful to watch.

A word of warning, this build needs you to know at least a bit about the other classes so you can time your attacks and defensive CD’s. It is not a 3 button build to destroy in quick join!

Hope it helps some of those feeling underpowered with the warrior. I currently only seem to have issues with hunters mainly.

This build was outdated in november 2012.

Heya, any reason why this is outdated? I didn’t play for a few months and even though I checked patch notes I didn’t see anything there as to why I should’nt continue using the same build. Thanks in advance

Shamon.2091:

Heya, any reason why this is outdated? I didn’t play for a few months and even though I checked patch notes I didn’t see anything there as to why I should’nt continue using the same build. Thanks in advance

1- Warrior sucks in PvP
2- No mobility in your build
3- You have 2x Quickness – Quickness is nerfed

shimzor.6057:

Shamon.2091:

Heya, any reason why this is outdated? I didn’t play for a few months and even though I checked patch notes I didn’t see anything there as to why I should’nt continue using the same build. Thanks in advance

1- Warrior sucks in PvP
2- No mobility in your build
3- You have 2x Quickness – Quickness is nerfed

1- Warrior sucks in PvP – mmm not really related to the build
2- No mobility in your build – 30 seconds swiftness every minute, not the best but enought to get from point to point.
3- You have 2x Quickness – Quickness is nerfed – Quickness is still good even after the nerf

I thought there was something big I was missing from November but obviously not Thanks for the feedback either way.

They can be strong in 1 vs 1 but they thing is you have to play it like a theif if you get kited you can just give up immediately.

Shamon.2091:

1- Warrior sucks in PvP – mmm not really related to the build

This is warrior build or not?

Shamon.2091:

2- No mobility in your build – 30 seconds swiftness every minute, not the best but enought to get from point to point.

Have you ever played tPvP? Do you know what mobility is?

Shamon.2091:

3- You have 2x Quickness – Quickness is nerfed – Quickness is still good even after the nerf

I thought there was something big I was missing from November but obviously not Thanks for the feedback either way.

Something big? Biger then Quickness nerf? Quickness is now +50% attack speed it was +100% before nerf… (its double if you have problems with math)

Caedmon.6798:

Sorry but..all you people saying you get wiped 1v1..Thats You,not the class.I know your ego will probably be to big to accept this fact..But i know people,and myself included that have absolutely no problems soloing most classes.It’s just Mesmers/thiefs stay at #1 being the most troublesome,because of their endless ways to escape.You need to figure out how to control your enemy,not let them controlling you,and making use of utilities and traits for Survival,not toughness/vitality…

Caedmon.6798:

Learn to read Please,before trying to make yourself look like a fool.I never said there isn’t anything wrong with warrior,but people saying they cant do a 1vs1 Are wrong or indeed need to learn 2 play.Thats why its so hard even trying to start a discussion with people like you,no actual responses,just a bunch of bull,hence im not even bothering most of the time.

You’re right, you didn’t say there isn’t anything wrong with the Warrior – you just said that “all” the people who play Warrior and can’t fight 1vs1 are wrong. How conceited of you. (Incidentally, the problem is not that Warriors can’t fight 1vs1, it’s that more-often-than-not, the Warrior will lose due to class inadequacies.)

There’s nothing wrong with asking for a class (which most of us find to be sub-par) to be brought up to standard and everything wrong with belittling players with abusive “l2p” nonsense.

As for you “not even bothering most of the time” to start a discussion with people like me, please try harder. Not even bothering at all would be good as that way we won’t have to suffer your sort bragging about how good you are and how the rest of us need to learn to play. This type of response is even more worthless than “a bunch of bull.” (Oh, and I’ll learn to read when you learn proper grammar, okay?)

It’s amusing that you mentioned egos; I think you’ll find that the players coming on here, discussing the problems they’re having with their class and asking for help are not the ones with an ego problem. No, it’s the, “I got mad skillz, learn to play nubs” players like you who cannot restrain their own ego or their contempt for more casual, less-skilled players who, (not for lack of trying,) are struggling. Who’s more likely to be correct, a few “leet” players like you insisting the class is fine, or the majority of players recognising that there is a problem with the class? The answer’s blindingly obvious I’d have though.

Thankfully, along with the Warrior community in general, ArenaNet recognises that the Warrior class is undeniably the poorest in the PvP environment and that the majority who aren’t having “absolutely no problems soloing most classes” are in need of help. As such, they have committed to fixing the class. Contrary to what you think, I believe that actually changing key aspects of how the class works is more helpful (and more appropriate) than arrogantly telling players that they’re wrong and they need to learn to play. It would seem that ArenaNet agree with me more than with you.

Warriors are an absolute joke in PvP. Anyone who says otherwise really needs to pull there head from there rears. Unfortunately many people have over-inflated egos and think that smashing Zergs with a hammer and doing a Zerker CoF run is skill.

Daecollo.9578:

Warriors are an absolute joke in PvP. Anyone who says otherwise really needs to pull there head from there rears. Unfortunately many people have over-inflated egos and think that smashing Zergs with a hammer and doing a Zerker CoF run is skill.

I just don’t get why some fellow Warriors wouldn’t want to see the class strengthened?

In my opinion it’s either stupidity or narcissism.

shimzor.6057:

Something big? Biger then Quickness nerf? Quickness is now +50% attack speed it was +100% before nerf… (its double if you have problems with math)

Just because the speed was cut in half doesn’t make Quickness bad. It just means it isn’t pant-on-head strong. Quickness NEEDED to be nerfed, and even post nerf, it is still very good. Just proves the change was just.