Guild Wars 2

Today, I laugh so hard that now my tummy hurts. Why? because of this topic, Mace/shield GS build = Overpowered. I knew the OP wasn’t a warrior or haven’t played it much, which it is true. OP is guardian which made me sad. I too, play a guardian and only lose to warrior if I am caught by surprise or all my skills are in coldown.(attachment for proof , for my experience on guardian)

Well, I understand that warrior can now kill a button-smashing-newbie and pose a fun challenge for decent-skilled players. Still, warrior are the weakest out of classes because their simplicity. 10% or 20% more damage won’t matter if you can’t hit the target or keep alive.

Enough of my rant, here are the weakness to warrior or the current meta.

1) {url=http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Weakness]Weakness[/url]: this condition destroys any direct damage build. Currently, it is OP since it reject critical attacks and cuts normal damage in half.

Here is some math:

Lets say a warrior has 100% critical chance with 50% critical damage and does 2000 damage

With Weakness, there is 50% chance that Critical is rejected and does normal damage cut in half. So, that means instead of doing 2000 damage, the warrior does 500 damage, a 75% damage reduction!!!

theoretically speaking, 50% chance of happening * 75% damage reduction leaves a total of 37.5% damage reduction, theoretically of course. In reality, it can range form 0-75% damage reduction.

2) Protection, no need to explain this one…………I hope.

3) Stability, Note: Thief/mesmer can actually steal it or any other boon.

4)Stun breaker Why aren’t you carrying one around?

5)chilled limiting movement, current warrior meta is melee

6)crippled limiting movement, current warrior meta is melee

7) Immobilized limiting movement, current warrior is melee

8)Blind If he can’t hit, then it stun affect you

9)Fear Rangers, Necros, warriors can Fear, so don’t whine

10)Posion this condition destroy healing signet, since it cuts healing by 33%(392 to 261) also it deal condition damage, (261 to 177 or less)

11) Dodging, try it, it works wonder

12) Stealth meele. short range, unlikely to hit or see you.

13) Illusion?No, stuns if it can’t hit the real you.

14) kiting, running away, or any other tactic that involves outmaneuvering the target

15) Control skills, turn the tables around.

Tired, if i made any grammar/spelling error, feel free to correct me.

Also, I am pretty sure there is more ways.

Raging and buttons smashing does not work

I’ve seen so many failed Champion X players , now thats what’s laughable but yeah that new warrior build is gimmicky :|

16) Teleports, expecially Phase Retreat and Shadow Return from S/D thief.

Good to know every build can keep 100% uptime on all those. It’s not like you can’t stun for 4s out of every 7 (every 10 I guess if you switch to GS for 100B). And aren’t you running Lemongrass with crazy GS mobility? That eliminates about half those.

Yaki.9563:

Good to know every build can keep 100% uptime on all those. It’s not like you can’t stun for 4s out of every 7 (every 10 I guess if you switch to GS for 100B). And aren’t you running Lemongrass with crazy GS mobility? That eliminates about half those.

why do wvwers always bring up that totally unbalanced game type in front of a pvp balacne discussion.

Yaki.9563:

Good to know every build can keep 100% uptime on all those. It’s not like you can’t stun for 4s out of every 7 (every 10 I guess if you switch to GS for 100B). And aren’t you running Lemongrass with crazy GS mobility? That eliminates about half those.

There’s your problem (not only yours, many fellow warriors used to make the same mistakes witht conditions/other builds): you confuse “countering” with “completely nullifying” a certain build. You aren’t supposed to destroy a warrior with just a stunbreaker.

If an enemy reaches you with greatsword, swaps weapons and uses stuns, you can be SURE he won’t be able to 100b you.

What about using rune of melandru/other stun reduction devices?

redslion.9675:

If an enemy reaches you with greatsword, swaps weapons and uses stuns, you can be SURE he won’t be able to 100b you.

Not entirely true. If they are not in combat when they swap from GS to mace, they can swap right away. You can swap in the middle of the animation before you hit your target, stun, then swap back. Take timing but it can be done.

CreativeAnarchy.6324:

redslion.9675:

If an enemy reaches you with greatsword, swaps weapons and uses stuns, you can be SURE he won’t be able to 100b you.

Not entirely true. If they are not in combat when they swap from GS to mace, they can swap right away. You can swap in the middle of the animation before you hit your target, stun, then swap back. Take timing but it can be done.

Yes, you can do that, but most players will not or can not. It generally isn’t worth the risk to do it imo. Considering if they move in a way you don’t anticipate and cause you to mistime it, you now can’t switch for 5 seconds.

CreativeAnarchy.6324:

redslion.9675:

If an enemy reaches you with greatsword, swaps weapons and uses stuns, you can be SURE he won’t be able to 100b you.

Not entirely true. If they are not in combat when they swap from GS to mace, they can swap right away. You can swap in the middle of the animation before you hit your target, stun, then swap back. Take timing but it can be done.

Well, that requires a lot of luck, I guess.

CreativeAnarchy.6324:

redslion.9675:

If an enemy reaches you with greatsword, swaps weapons and uses stuns, you can be SURE he won’t be able to 100b you.

Not entirely true. If they are not in combat when they swap from GS to mace, they can swap right away. You can swap in the middle of the animation before you hit your target, stun, then swap back. Take timing but it can be done.

The real question is: If you know he’s trying to reach you and do that with the greatsword, why didn’t you just hit him once and put him in combat? Rush isn’t a dodge you know…

Redscope.6215:

CreativeAnarchy.6324:

redslion.9675:

If an enemy reaches you with greatsword, swaps weapons and uses stuns, you can be SURE he won’t be able to 100b you.

Not entirely true. If they are not in combat when they swap from GS to mace, they can swap right away. You can swap in the middle of the animation before you hit your target, stun, then swap back. Take timing but it can be done.

The real question is: If you know he’s trying to reach you and do that with the greatsword, why didn’t you just hit him once and put him in combat? Rush isn’t a dodge you know…

I can’t say what others will do, I was just saying that it is possible. Sometimes to get some things to work, you have to think a little outside the box and do things a bit differently, especially if other players start to catch on to how your build works.