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Posted by: Harrier.9380

Harrier.9380

Thoughts?

No fix for Fast Hands.
No fix for double death on vengeance.

But incorrect icons and lack of couple ‘small projectile finishers’ were always no.1 problem with the class if you ask me.

“Men are more ready to repay an injury than a benefit,
because gratitude is a burden and revenge a pleasure.”

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Posted by: Smilinreap.3075

Smilinreap.3075

where do you see the patch specifics?

If you’re going to do something, grit those teeth and smile.

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Posted by: BurrTheKing.8571

BurrTheKing.8571

Oh for sure. Underwater combat is #1 concern. I’m not in yet so maybe they did fix them but are unstated. In the end, at least we didn’t get nerfs.

Just an angry old man…

Old Man Burr (War), Bad Hat Ben (Engi), Manly Manny Manson (Guard)

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Posted by: Kurajin.4607

Kurajin.4607

DUDE, finally some projectile finishers, this is all i ever dreamed off!!!…

Seriously, looking at the other professions’ patch notes, i am really disappointed – again.
Why won’t Anet give us warriors some love?

@Smilinreap: https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/info/news/Game-Update-Notes-November-15-2012

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Posted by: eXs.6210

eXs.6210

Here are the Warrior patch notes:

Warrior
Dual Shot: This skill’s damage has been increased by 10%.
Bull’s Charge: This skill’s range fact now properly reflects the actual range of the skill.
Reviver’s Might: This trait now uses the correct icon.
Stick and Move: This trait now uses the correct icon.
Forceful Shot: This skill is now a projectile combo finisher.
Brutal Shot: This skill is now a projectile combo finisher.
Split Shot: This skill is now a small projectile combo finisher.
Knot Shot: This skill is now a projectile combo finisher.
Repeating Shot: This skill is now a small projectile combo finisher.
Triple Chop: This skill’s responsiveness has been improved.

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Posted by: Harrier.9380

Harrier.9380

@Smilinreap News forums.
For anyone who didn’t see it yet:

Warrior
Dual Shot: This skill’s damage has been increased by 10%.
Bull’s Charge: This skill’s range fact now properly reflects the actual range of the skill.
Reviver’s Might: This trait now uses the correct icon.
Stick and Move: This trait now uses the correct icon.
Forceful Shot: This skill is now a projectile combo finisher.
Brutal Shot: This skill is now a projectile combo finisher.
Split Shot: This skill is now a small projectile combo finisher.
Knot Shot: This skill is now a projectile combo finisher.
Repeating Shot: This skill is now a small projectile combo finisher.
Triple Chop: This skill’s responsiveness has been improved.

“Men are more ready to repay an injury than a benefit,
because gratitude is a burden and revenge a pleasure.”

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Posted by: eXs.6210

eXs.6210

not too much of a difference honestly… I love playing PvE with my bow… super happy about the 10% buff to dual shot…

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Posted by: Akumu.7238

Akumu.7238

Wow… Thanks Anet for giving us the proper icons and projectile finishers. Glad we finally got our top issues fixed. Warrior is now in league with the rest…

lmao This is the 5 page patch notes we were waiting for?

I don’t wanna live a thousand years. If I just live through today, that’ll be enough.

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Posted by: BurrTheKing.8571

BurrTheKing.8571

We know for a fact Anet is using war as a template for balance. I would agree that we are pretty balanced, idk if these changes will bring the OP classes/builds down to our lvl. Veng is even more useless with the decrease HP in downed but overall I like the idea. Idk if the 10% bow auto increase makes it more viable in PvP or not.

Just an angry old man…

Old Man Burr (War), Bad Hat Ben (Engi), Manly Manny Manson (Guard)

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Posted by: IceBlink.4317

IceBlink.4317

Warriors get nothing but buffs… again. Nice. XD

Also static objects which melee attacks kept missing frequently (like burrows in AC dungeon) was patched to be hit more reliably too, which is nice.

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Posted by: Koolthulu.9682

Koolthulu.9682

Still no fix for Fast Hands?! Anet, if you can’t fix it just remove it. It is actually a hindrance to have it in its current state.

Nice to have some combo finishers though.

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Posted by: Harrier.9380

Harrier.9380

@BurrTheKing I doubt it’ld make bow viable in PvP. Without some buff to autoattack projectile speed it’ll keep missing moving targets.

“Men are more ready to repay an injury than a benefit,
because gratitude is a burden and revenge a pleasure.”

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Posted by: Akumu.7238

Akumu.7238

That’s the problem. They use warrior as a starting template. However, they left it behind as they built on the rest. The only class we outshine is ranger, which isn’t saying much.

I don’t wanna live a thousand years. If I just live through today, that’ll be enough.

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Posted by: JonPeters.5630

JonPeters.5630

Game Design Lead

Fast hands only is broken on the very first swap after you turn it on our load a map. After that it works. Fixing that first time bug is extraordinarily difficult, but we think it is worth it to keep the trait.

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Posted by: Kuroin.1703

Kuroin.1703

My warrior build got a nerf.
—— boon duration. :s

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Posted by: BurrTheKing.8571

BurrTheKing.8571

@BurrTheKing I doubt it’ld make bow viable in PvP. Without some buff to autoattack projectile speed it’ll keep missing moving targets.

Honestly, I barely used auto attack. I would go 5, Burst, 3, 4, roll in, 2, then switch. It’s not bad for forcing the enemy trying to take a point to fight on burning ground.

Just an angry old man…

Old Man Burr (War), Bad Hat Ben (Engi), Manly Manny Manson (Guard)

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Posted by: Awesome.6120

Awesome.6120

Which one of you is paying off anet devs? patch after patch of nerfs to other, weaker classes (even engies now) and warriors always walk away unscathed. I want to know what the going rate for a complete class is.

[SFD] – Maguuma

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Posted by: Jeheil.2516

Jeheil.2516

Warriors, if you are underwhelmed in your patches….go and entertain yourself by the utter despondence, wailing and gnashing of teeth taking place in the Ranger forums.

At least your bow skills got buffed.

Jeheil, IoJ, [uA] – Defender of Gazza’s watergate

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Posted by: Koolthulu.9682

Koolthulu.9682

I’ll have to trait it again, but that wasn’t the way it worked at the start of the month. I rarely got the in combat reduction (1 in 5 maybe), and always got a 10 second out of combat CD. Had nothing to do with whether it was the first swap or not.

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Posted by: Insignia.3826

Insignia.3826

warriors are complaining? did you not see the other professions. you warriors got the best of it.

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Posted by: MiniAchilles.4617

MiniAchilles.4617

Fast hands only is broken on the very first swap after you turn it on our load a map. After that it works. Fixing that first time bug is extraordinarily difficult, but we think it is worth it to keep the trait.

That still warrants a fix imo, is it still being looked into? It doesn’t sound like it from your post, it sounds like it’s broken and too hard to fix so we’ll leave it.

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Posted by: Harrier.9380

Harrier.9380

Fast hands only is broken on the very first swap after you turn it on our load a map. After that it works. Fixing that first time bug is extraordinarily difficult, but we think it is worth it to keep the trait.

Hey, thanks for dropping by.

I’m pretty sure I see it more often than once per game… And there’s still a matter of random 5sec cooldown applying even when swapping weapons out of combat (usually after respawn). I agree though, trait is still worth it.

Any word about Vengeance bugs?

“Men are more ready to repay an injury than a benefit,
because gratitude is a burden and revenge a pleasure.”

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Posted by: MiniAchilles.4617

MiniAchilles.4617

warriors are complaining? did you not see the other professions. you warriors got the best of it.

I don’t even want to look at the Ranger forums.. I’d probably cry for them, this was indeed very disappointing, my main being an Ele I could punch a kitten over some of the changes they made in this patch.

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Posted by: Ansultares.1567

Ansultares.1567

Unless the rest of the patch notes read “removed stealth, clones and all pets” I’m really disappointed.

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Posted by: wintermute.4096

wintermute.4096

Fast hands only is broken on the very first swap after you turn it on our load a map. After that it works. Fixing that first time bug is extraordinarily difficult, but we think it is worth it to keep the trait.

Actually, the first swap is the most important one in pvp.

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Posted by: Boomstin.3460

Boomstin.3460

Warriors, if you are underwhelmed in your patches….go and entertain yourself by the utter despondence, wailing and gnashing of teeth taking place in the Ranger forums.

At least your bow skills got buffed.

Yeah this. Poor ranger class Broken and ignored.

All is vain.

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Posted by: Alberel Leonhart.9640

Alberel Leonhart.9640

Warriors buffed AGAIN? Rangers and eles (two of the professions most in need of attention) are getting consecutively nerfed and screwed over, and warriors are getting buffs?

If ANet wants to know why people are quitting it’s things like this.

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Posted by: Defektive.7283

Defektive.7283

I think this patch was actually detrimental to the Warrior s/tPvP meta.

Nerfed thief burst but didn’t nerf ours (or change our skills).

Now we’re definitely lumped into the burst/roaming category.

tPvP Warrior
http://www.twitch.tv/defektive
Team Blacklisted [Envy]

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Posted by: Sarlack.4096

Sarlack.4096

ATTENTION JOHN PETERS: Could you please take a moment to address the enraged Ranger community.

Appreciated,
An Angry Ranger…

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Posted by: Sallie Forthe.2473

Sallie Forthe.2473

Mr. Peters, your presence is respectfully requested in the Ranger’s forum. In the immortal words of Mr. Ricardo “You got some ’splaining to do!!!”

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Posted by: MiniAchilles.4617

MiniAchilles.4617

Alberel I would hardly call them buffs, they aren’t game breaking any way. I would agree though, that a few classes got shafted in this patch, they where promised fixes and to be brought up to speed with other classes and instead received nerfs. Very disappointing.

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Posted by: White.6193

White.6193

T’was a mockery. With all of our glitchy traits, completely underwhelming combat, basement level skill ceiling for most weapons, and we get combo finishers and proper icons. Oooooh, Aaaaaah. What a joke. When there’s blatently broken stuff to fix, please focus on that. I’ll take a fixed trait over slightly inaccurate and very irrelevant (for anyone that’s used the skill/trait a few times) descriptions and icons.

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Posted by: Steely Phil.3952

Steely Phil.3952

No significant Warrior changes at all. Patch after patch we get completely ignored.

“Yo dawg, we heard you liked grind.” -ANet

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Posted by: BurrTheKing.8571

BurrTheKing.8571

No significant Warrior changes at all. Patch after patch we get completely ignored.

We weren’t nefed, be happy.

Just an angry old man…

Old Man Burr (War), Bad Hat Ben (Engi), Manly Manny Manson (Guard)

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Posted by: Boomstin.3460

Boomstin.3460

No significant Warrior changes at all. Patch after patch we get completely ignored.

Well, just be glad you don’t play a ranger

All is vain.

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Posted by: Anon.1248

Anon.1248

Fast hands only is broken on the very first swap after you turn it on our load a map. After that it works. Fixing that first time bug is extraordinarily difficult, but we think it is worth it to keep the trait.

hey woah woah no john you are very mistaken it doesn’t just happen when you set it or zone in. I just tested to make sure and I have even seen it happen twice in a row in the past. Please please don’t remove it I wouldn’t be able to play comfortably with a 10 second cooldown but for the love of god and all that is holy my anu.. i mean fix it.

edit: alright forget the past I just happened twice in a row again.

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Posted by: Awesome.6120

Awesome.6120

We weren’t nefed, be happy.

This guy gets it.

[SFD] – Maguuma

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Posted by: vox.5019

vox.5019

Should we head on down to the thief forum and gloat?

Seriously though, I’m glad LB got a little love.

This industry just needs to move on. We’ve seen a bunch of “WoW 2.0” attempts, and
who actually wants that? Do we really want to be playing those same game mechanics for
another 5 or 10 years? -Mike O’Brien

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Posted by: Steely Phil.3952

Steely Phil.3952

We weren’t nefed, be happy.

This guy gets it.

Lol, just because they beat their other children doesn’t mean we should be happy they ignore us.

“Yo dawg, we heard you liked grind.” -ANet

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Posted by: Johnson.3874

Johnson.3874

Thanks guys, I was a bit disappointed by the lack of changes, but you made me laugh. Now I feel better !

And the weapon swapping part not being too bad because it only occurs on the first swap ? Priceless. My sides still hurt so bad from laughing ^^

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Posted by: nldixon.8514

nldixon.8514

We weren’t nefed, be happy.

This guy gets it.

Lol, just because they beat their other children doesn’t mean we should be happy they ignore us.

As a Ranger player, I sure as heck would be. Heh.

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Posted by: Akumu.7238

Akumu.7238

Give us protection, replace our tier 2 worthy grandmaster traits(or upgrade them), and fix 2/3 of our utilities. I will stop being annoyed when at least 2 of these are done.

I don’t wanna live a thousand years. If I just live through today, that’ll be enough.

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Posted by: Strifey.7215

Strifey.7215

I’m glad we didn’t get nerfed at all, but can we please get a fix for fast hands.

I’ve been running that trait forever, and it not working on the first swap and sometimes causing a 5 second delay outside of combat is so annoying, I’m sad it still hasn’t been fixed. That’s really my only issue right now

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Posted by: tyu.9470

tyu.9470

I just posted on reddit my feelings..gonna share here:

IN no way i mean to complain or be happy, i simply feel forgotten because all the patches that don’t involve warriors and even a patch this big has..nothing. AT LEAST NERF SOMETHING SO I CAN RAGE i dont know.. warriors are no way in a great state (not talking about powerful or weak, more like we have our own bugs and stuff.)

Just thought i should share, i was hoping for a longer necro/ranger part btw!

http://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/139qqu/any_other_warrior_out_there_feels_forgotten/

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Posted by: Finfinnie.3097

Finfinnie.3097

  • Triple Chop: This skill’s responsiveness has been improved.

Above change was actually made on 10/22 patch which was not documented, and it is causing more problem than it solves as seen in this, this, or this thread. It’s also been listed in the stickied warrior bug thread since the bug first appeared on 10/22 patch.

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Posted by: Koolthulu.9682

Koolthulu.9682

Fast hands only is broken on the very first swap after you turn it on our load a map. After that it works. Fixing that first time bug is extraordinarily difficult, but we think it is worth it to keep the trait.

Sir, you have just proven to me that you do not actually play this game. I logged in, changed my traits to get Fast Hands. Went into combat. With 20 in combat swaps I got the full 10 second CD on 19 of them. With 20 out of combat swaps I got a 5 second CD on 18 of them.

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Posted by: Plague.5329

Plague.5329

I’d already sworn off PvE due to the manifest being burned and being given the finger by ANet because the WoW players bring in more money. I was waiting around to see if my Warrior at least would finally be worth playing in PvP, so I could at least wait out the storm in there.

No major changes to the core problems of PvP itself, and an even bigger middle finger to Warrior players who have been yearning for a rebalance to worthless secondary skills since the betas. I think I’m beyond being disappointed in ANet, and to the point that I’m just curious as to how delusional and disrespectful they can really be. Really? Improved dual shot damage by 10%? The skill that never even hits targets to begin with? The worst PvP weapon, and that’s it? Seriously, it’s just funny now how inept these people are.

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Posted by: Kuroin.1703

Kuroin.1703

I’d already sworn off PvE due to the manifest being burned and being given the finger by ANet because the WoW players bring in more money. I was waiting around to see if my Warrior at least would finally be worth playing in PvP, so I could at least wait out the storm in there.

No major changes to the core problems of PvP itself, and an even bigger middle finger to Warrior players who have been yearning for a rebalance to worthless secondary skills since the betas. I think I’m beyond being disappointed in ANet, and to the point that I’m just curious as to how delusional and disrespectful they can really be. Really? Improved dual shot damage by 10%? The skill that never even hits targets to begin with? The worst PvP weapon, and that’s it? Seriously, it’s just funny now how inept these people are.

Wait wait wait wait… are you complaining about warriors? Amazing.

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Posted by: Akumu.7238

Akumu.7238

Wait wait wait wait… are you complaining about warriors? Amazing.

We are the class everyone looks for in PvP… /sarcasm off

I don’t wanna live a thousand years. If I just live through today, that’ll be enough.

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Posted by: Johnson.3874

Johnson.3874

I tried to do some testing in WvW, but it’s hard to be sure :

It seems the shouts now heal no more than 5 people. Can anyone confirm this ? Thanks!