Guild Wars 2

Darkhaven’s overwhelming 70+ zerg loses to DR’s small (but basically godlike) roaming but not playing for points party!

…Well at least the hour of badge farming in your East Keep was fun.

Fizzlepip.5218:

Darkhaven’s overwhelming 70+ zerg loses to DR’s small (but basically godlike) roaming but not playing for points party!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JxQ2jJeyifc

…Well at least the hour of badge farming in your East Keep was fun.

Sorry, but defending a sieged up hills in Lord’s room with equal numbers for an entire minute?

What a waste of bandwidth.

Gab Superstar.4059:

Sorry, but defending a sieged up hills in Lord’s room with equal numbers for an entire minute?

a) over an hour at the keep
b) it’s pretty clear that there are nowhere close to equal numbers

Gab the more you say the more you reveal yourself to be nothing more than a loud troll severely misguided person. Because you actually believe what you say.

Fizzlepip.5218:

Gab the more you say the more you reveal yourself to be nothing more than a loud troll.

If you say it often enough it becomes true!

Fizzlepip.5218:

Gab Superstar.4059:

Sorry, but defending a sieged up hills in Lord’s room with equal numbers for an entire minute?

a) over an hour at the keep
b) it’s pretty clear that there are nowhere close to equal numbers

Gab the more you say the more you reveal yourself to be nothing more than a loud troll.

We held IoJ Hills for 20+ hours, twice, while fully upgrading it and being outmanned 50% of the time.

I think you should work on your defense.

Gab Superstar.4059:

We held IoJ Hills for 20+ hours, twice, while fully upgrading it and being outmanned 50% of the time.

I think you should work on your defense.

One time, I fought off the Jabberwocky, Zhaitan, 300 risen, bigfoot, 3.5 yetis, a chicken, a six foot tall midget, and a werecar for 30 years straight.

True story.

Tuluum.9638:

One time, I fought off the Jabberwocky, Zhaitan, 300 risen, bigfoot, 3.5 yetis, a chicken, a six foot tall midget, and a werecar for 30 years straight.

True story.

A 3.5 yeti is only CR 3 man. That’s not very impressive. Hell, even the werecar probably maxes out at CR 7.

ok ! clearly shenanigans! Bigfoot and Yeti are the same thing! your illusion has been shattered! hehe.

…and i have a fraps to prove it! 8P

Fizzlepip.5218:

Darkhaven’s overwhelming 70+ zerg loses to DR’s small (but basically godlike) roaming but not playing for points party!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JxQ2jJeyifc

…Well at least the hour of badge farming in your East Keep was fun.

Are you DH (if the shoe fits, wear it) going to keep saying this every time we manage to pull together some numbers and catch you in a bad situation? Because that’s going to get boring. It’s not even debatable that as a whole you have more folks on for more hours and generally you run around in very large groups. So give it a rest. Nobody at DR said that DR * only * runs around in small groups and goes for kills. Nobody at DR said that DH * only * runs around in giant zergs.

The people at DR have a point when they say large zergs take all the tactics and strategy out of the game. The people at DH have a point when they say DR could use their manpower better. I don’t think either server is as organized as they could be or as some of us would like them to be. The area isn’t controlled like a dungeon or raid instance in WoW, the casuals get in the mix and help muck up guilds organizing something.

It just is what it is, and until Anet – or IF Anet – does something to even the playing field a bit, the large pop (on more hours) will dominate the field.

Attic.1562:

Tuluum.9638:

One time, I fought off the Jabberwocky, Zhaitan, 300 risen, bigfoot, 3.5 yetis, a chicken, a six foot tall midget, and a werecar for 30 years straight.

True story.

A 3.5 yeti is only CR 3 man. That’s not very impressive. Hell, even the werecar probably maxes out at CR 7.

Well, I will admit they were the easiest. It was the teamwork and coordination between them all that was so brutal. That chicken… devastating.

hyjaxxx.1584:

ok ! clearly shenanigans! Bigfoot and Yeti are the same thing! your illusion has been shattered! hehe.

…and i have a fraps to prove it! 8P

To the layman, they may appear to be the same.. but environmental differences are truly profound. Itd be like calling a Korean, Japanese. The Large Ape Nation would be offended by your lack of sensitivity and ignorance.

:D

Tuluum.9638:

Gab Superstar.4059:

We held IoJ Hills for 20+ hours, twice, while fully upgrading it and being outmanned 50% of the time.

I think you should work on your defense.

One time, I fought off the Jabberwocky, Zhaitan, 300 risen, bigfoot, 3.5 yetis, a chicken, a six foot tall midget, and a werecar for 30 years straight.

True story.

And I managed to fight off the combined fury of 10 DH forum warriors for 3 weeks straight.

Now that is next level…

Let’s have some good small man action tonight… sPvP is nearly not as much fun as open world PvP

@Tuluum – Could not have said it better myself. It’s just like everyone refers to the map as 4 zones ( EB + 3 BL’s ) while not recognizing the entire map is called “Partopia” and already has a supreme commander.

Tuluum.9638:

Itd be like calling a Korean, Japanese.

I do this all the time. It’s hilarious.

Also fun: calling an Irishman a limey, a Canadian an American, a Mexican a Puerto Rican, and many others. It’s jolly good fun to muck with people’s cultural identities.

Also also fun: saying “shrimp on the barbie” to an actual Aussie.

Almostfaceman.1804:

Are you DH (if the shoe fits, wear it) going to keep saying this every time we manage to pull together some numbers and catch you in a bad situation?

No. At least not if people in DR concede that zerging (albeit definitely more lopsided on our side) is a two-way street. He(kitten)ll, even after that video people (ahem) are still claiming equal numbers. But there’s no hard feelings—I posted the video playfully and by no means mean to insult the zergers and non-zergers alike. I just ask for a little less selective self-awareness is all.

Almostfaceman.1804:

It just is what it is, and until Anet – or IF Anet – does something to even the playing field a bit, the large pop (on more hours) will dominate the field.

As for this? Sadly, they won’t. Every time ANet makes a change in WvW, it only seems to promote zerging and large numbers.

Sepsis.1564:

Let’s have some good small man action tonight… sPvP is nearly not as much fun as open world PvP

Always game. Though after a few rounds I get tired of getting OINKstomped

Gab Superstar.4059:

Tuluum.9638:

Gab Superstar.4059:

We held IoJ Hills for 20+ hours, twice, while fully upgrading it and being outmanned 50% of the time.

I think you should work on your defense.

One time, I fought off the Jabberwocky, Zhaitan, 300 risen, bigfoot, 3.5 yetis, a chicken, a six foot tall midget, and a werecar for 30 years straight.

True story.

And I managed to fight off the combined fury of 10 DH forum warriors for 3 weeks straight.

Now that is next level…

So what you’re saying is… Ten v One Np? You should go see if Chris will let you join their exclusive club.

@Fizzlepip. Props to SNFU for being competitive and not running away from equal numbers!

Gab Superstar.4059:

So uhm… What is Darkhaven trying to achieve right now? I thought you wanted a new match up, at least one without DR in it?

Equalizing the score between IoJ and DR by pushing into our BL when IoJ is already doing just that, is going to reduce the amount of rating points DH gain, and decrease the amount of rating points that IoJ lose. This will lead to a much longer match up between these three servers.

That is a problem here. DH more often then not will go for attacking DR borderlands and not even touch IoJ borderlands (key words here are more often). This is something we at DR are getting tired of, both enemy servers hitting us and barely fighting each-other. Yes, DH and IoJ do fight each-other, sometimes, and when we see them doing so we go, “Wait is DH attacking IoJ for once!?!?!?”. Such as in eternal battlegrounds, IoJ will own their side of the map, and we in DR have ours. What seems to be 80% of the time DH will attack us, and IoJ will also attack us.

Attic.1562:

Also also fun: saying “shrimp on the barbie” to an actual Aussie.

I often wonder were this one comes from, as we call them prawns, not shrimp

last episide guild of our lifes: debona’s rest quit learning of university against derk haven father in pursuing of great finger paint and join biker gang. biker encounter on debona’s rest at gas station stall toilet make for sob emotion in derk haven parent arms.

Fallout.1798:

Gab Superstar.4059:

So uhm… What is Darkhaven trying to achieve right now? I thought you wanted a new match up, at least one without DR in it?

Equalizing the score between IoJ and DR by pushing into our BL when IoJ is already doing just that, is going to reduce the amount of rating points DH gain, and decrease the amount of rating points that IoJ lose. This will lead to a much longer match up between these three servers.

That is a problem here. DH more often then not will go for attacking DR borderlands and not even touch IoJ borderlands (key words here are more often). This is something we at DR are getting tired of, both enemy servers hitting us and barely fighting each-other. Yes, DH and IoJ do fight each-other, sometimes, and when we see them doing so we go, “Wait is DH attacking IoJ for once!?!?!?”. Such as in eternal battlegrounds, IoJ will own their side of the map, and we in DR have ours. What seems to be 80% of the time DH will attack us, and IoJ will also attack us.

This amuses me. We have fully capped IoJ in EB several days in a row now, while DR holds their own land. Of course, we always come for DR as well, but they’re not our first target (most days).

TheShadow.6205:

Fallout.1798:

Gab Superstar.4059:

So uhm… What is Darkhaven trying to achieve right now? I thought you wanted a new match up, at least one without DR in it?

Equalizing the score between IoJ and DR by pushing into our BL when IoJ is already doing just that, is going to reduce the amount of rating points DH gain, and decrease the amount of rating points that IoJ lose. This will lead to a much longer match up between these three servers.

That is a problem here. DH more often then not will go for attacking DR borderlands and not even touch IoJ borderlands (key words here are more often). This is something we at DR are getting tired of, both enemy servers hitting us and barely fighting each-other. Yes, DH and IoJ do fight each-other, sometimes, and when we see them doing so we go, “Wait is DH attacking IoJ for once!?!?!?”. Such as in eternal battlegrounds, IoJ will own their side of the map, and we in DR have ours. What seems to be 80% of the time DH will attack us, and IoJ will also attack us.

This amuses me. We have fully capped IoJ in EB several days in a row now, while DR holds their own land. Of course, we always come for DR as well, but they’re not our first target (most days).

It always seems like DR is the first target, although I am not blaming this on anything else than the fact that blue side in EB kittening sucks.

CrazyCanuck.4265:

Prosecutor.1457:

I don’t screenshot for the self pleasure of trying to say how much more numbers we have. I play the game.

Says he plays the game instead of posting screenshots to the forums. Is sitting on forums getting trolled. The hurdur is strong with this one.

Dude I fought people from your guild, they are pretty terrible.

MoW engineer … Nice Fight at the Ruins … OinK OinK (Asura Eley)

Zelthios.5902:

Dude I fought people from your guild, they are pretty terrible.

You are too kind ^_^

Sepsis.1564:

@Fizzlepip. Props to SNFU for being competitive and not running away from equal numbers!

When am I going to see those equal numbers? It seems I’m always being jumped 1v4.

Kyskythyn.6471:

Zelthios.5902:

Dude I fought people from your guild, they are pretty terrible.

You are too kind

I see you play a thief maybe you’re the one I’m thinking of the terrible thief that couldn’t burst a single person down.

To the DH players in Eternal just now that ran like scalded dogs from equal numbers its a digital toon I promise it doesn’t hurt to die..

You guys had the numbers to run us out of EB and did so… soon as we grouped up and rushed out roughly 10 on 10 (i’m assuming the rest of the blob went to IOJ side) the DH folks scampered right back to the keep afraid to fight us…

This is why I think you guys will get clown stomped if you move up to the next tier.. you have some good players that are willing to fight equal numbers but the rest… refuse to stand and fight and till they learn to do so you have little to no chance against an equal (or better) coverage server in higher tiers.

Yes its anecdotal… but there is absolutely a trend.

Davrollen.8935:

When am I going to see those equal numbers? It seems I’m always being jumped 1v4.

1v1 isn’t enough to kill your tanky kitten The fights go on… and on… and on…

I can’t seem to make a cameo in any of these screenshots or videos lol…ah, the life of a roamer in WvWvW…

My first post here….hello to all your drama-llamas from all 3 servers

Auvit.2970:

I know, right? Uneven battles should be banned by Anet. Hell, everyone on DH should get banned from the game for being such meanies.

Look, here is a screenshot of DH assaulting our tower with more people than we have. THIS ISN’T FAIR!

Zergs should be outlawed.

Edit: oops, thats actually DR with more people, but it seems like DR is leading the charge on the forums about how unfair fights are the Ultimate Evil™

But in seriousness, this stuff is really childish. Stop complaining about being outmanned. Its not surprising people on your server don’t wanna fight when they haven’t been winning lately. DH has had that happen, other servers have had that happen. Whining isn’t gonna solve anything.

Ha, nothing but bias and misquotation. DH will lie about anything to satisfy their egos. I don’t hate zergs, I never said that zergs should be outlawed. In fact, I encouraged DH to zerg more because we took everything back while they paid 100% attention to one objective. Please read before you spit an irrelevant rebuttal. Btw, 15-20 people is not a zerg, and I bet that they were wiped out by a 40+ DH zerg just seconds after the picture was taken.

In fact, I not once complained or whined about being outmanned. I’m simply proving the DH who believe that they win due to tactics wrong.

Zelthios.5902:

Kyskythyn.6471:

Zelthios.5902:

Dude I fought people from your guild, they are pretty terrible.

You are too kind ^_^

I see you play a thief maybe you’re the one I’m thinking of the terrible thief that couldn’t burst a single person down.

My thief is purely for solo dungeon runs and hasn’t been in WvW in at least 3 months. I play a tanky support asuran necro for WvW. If I bursted anyone down in that spec, they should just quit the game now.

Numbers, hacks.. the only classic forum subject missing is double teaming.. ohwait we got that too, finally. Yay, forum thread is complete (Level up!) and you can all go back to dub vee dubbing and eating tasty zergs and steamrolling and trololing in map chat and afking in your spawn or whatever.

Cheers!

And extra booze for Darkhaven. Craziest home I’ve only ever known.

Thats an awesome picture melodey! Kudos

Elementalist Owner.7802:

Ha, nothing but bias and misquotation. DH will lie about anything to satisfy their egos. I don’t hate zergs, I never said that zergs should be outlawed. In fact, I encouraged DH to zerg more because we took everything back while they paid 100% attention to one objective. Please read before you spit an irrelevant rebuttal. Btw, 15-20 people is not a zerg, and I bet that they were wiped out by a 40+ DH zerg just seconds after the picture was taken.

In fact, I not once complained or whined about being outmanned. I’m simply proving the DH who believe that they win due to tactics wrong.

Some suspect that we in Darkhaven are not humans but are in reality reptilian shapeshifters from the orion galaxy.

A guildie (thief) and I (mesmer) had a bit of fun in DRBL. Not anything completely noteworthy but we were outnumbered 2v5 yet were able to take a camp and cause a little trouble near the north camp where we eventually were wiped. I had bowed before they threw themselves at us but I was stood upon before waypointing back; not very nice.

Good fights all around.

So this picture finally shows what DR’s definition of a small roaming group is. :-) DR you zerg in very large numbers just like anyone else. This was just about 15 minutes ago and was a lot of fun.

Sobiech.9613:

A guildie (thief) and I (mesmer) had a bit of fun in DRBL. Not anything completely noteworthy but we were outnumbered 2v5 yet were able to take a camp and cause a little trouble near the north camp where we eventually were wiped. I had bowed before they threw themselves at us but I was stood upon before waypointing back; not very nice.

Good fights all around.

Good fights.
I was the up level asura guardian running around and screaming.
Had to switch my build to deal with all that confusion. And yeah you guys were a lot of fun to fight. I also asked my 2 guildies to leave you guys and let the thief res you .
But I think our necro didn’t hear it/or ignored me:D I did bow to you after we got you spiked, so I think it counts:) Either way nice fight and a good practice for us to deal with confusion and clones.

See you on the battlefield

Lion of the Wind
RgTg/SoCo

Anjo.3170:

So this picture finally shows what DR’s definition of a small roaming group is. :-) DR you zerg in very large numbers just like anyone else. This was just about 15 minutes ago and was a lot of fun.

Nobody ever said that DR only moves around in small roaming groups. -.-

Almostfaceman.1804:

Anjo.3170:

So this picture finally shows what DR’s definition of a small roaming group is. :-) DR you zerg in very large numbers just like anyone else. This was just about 15 minutes ago and was a lot of fun.

Nobody ever said that DR only moves around in small roaming groups. -.-

Exactly and thank you for that. That picture shows what pretty much happens on a nightly basis, a huge DR zerg roaming around, but yet criticize DH for the very thing they do.

Anjo.3170:

Almostfaceman.1804:

Anjo.3170:

So this picture finally shows what DR’s definition of a small roaming group is. :-) DR you zerg in very large numbers just like anyone else. This was just about 15 minutes ago and was a lot of fun.

Nobody ever said that DR only moves around in small roaming groups. -.-

Exactly and thank you for that. That picture shows what pretty much happens on a nightly basis, a huge DR zerg roaming around, but yet criticize DH for the very thing they do.

/forehead

There are just as many, if not more, DH there in your screenshot. Next time cover up the minimap so we can’t see all of the green dots.

@PD, Thanks for the fun guys. Great fights.

Oozo.7856:

Anjo.3170:

Almostfaceman.1804:

Anjo.3170:

So this picture finally shows what DR’s definition of a small roaming group is. :-) DR you zerg in very large numbers just like anyone else. This was just about 15 minutes ago and was a lot of fun.

Nobody ever said that DR only moves around in small roaming groups. -.-

Exactly and thank you for that. That picture shows what pretty much happens on a nightly basis, a huge DR zerg roaming around, but yet criticize DH for the very thing they do.

/forehead

There are just as many, if not more, DH there in your screenshot. Next time cover up the minimap so we can’t see all of the green dots.

/forehead as well. Behind the hill are DR that you cant see, over to the right is Umber camp under DR control where most of you were hiding as well as have sieze setup you can see. But Im not surprised that you missed the point that you guys zerg with a 60+ group as well.
Why would I cover up the mini map, Im not trying to hide or exagerate anything. Take a look as those green dots and double them and at that time that was the size of the DR zerg.

Elementalist Owner.7802:

I’m simply proving the DH who believe that they win due to tactics wrong.

I can’t remember the last time someone from DH posted about winning due to tactics. You guys are arguing against what you believe to be an argument that hardly exists. Nearly all (if not all) of our counter-posts seek to give examples of how DH doesn’t always field the largest zerg—which is what it seems your guys’s arguments are. But maybe we’re all just arguing against skewed versions of the other server’s. Because at this point that’s what it seems like

Oozo.7856:

There are just as many, if not more, DH there in your screenshot. Next time cover up the minimap so we can’t see all of the green dots.

/shakes head

You fail to understand the point. It’s not the size of the DH zerg, but the size of the DR zerg. Every post from DR is about how much larger and unstoppable due to size the DH zergs are. The photo—alongside other posts—show that that is hardly the case. You guys field similar numbers at times (repeat: AT TIMES—so don’t go spitting some misleading argument vs. what I didn’t actually say) and get pushed back/ stomped/ beaten likewise. Face it: DR has giant zergs too. It’s WvW. Numbers, luck, tactics—all included with proper descending order for everyone involved. That includes everyone that thinks they only lose to some sort of perma-zerg.
/end of logic. Because I can guarantee that it won’t reappear here.

Anyways, great fights with some OINK and EDGE DR guys in IoJ BL tonight. Had some sort of weird unspoken truce going on t not engage when numbers were lopsided either way. (I was a soloer tonight.) Still learning my Mesmer, but looking forward to more fights with everyone willing to put up a good one.

Gazden.5479:

@PD, Thanks for the fun guys. Great fights.

+1 SNFU! The ruins battle was lots of fun.

Yep, DR never outnumbers anyone.

Anjo.3170:

Yep, DR never outnumbers anyone.

Obviously not considering you have no outnumbered buff.

Numbers numbers numbers numbers “tactics” numbers numbers hacks numbers numbers numbers. Numbers numbers. Numbers.

Fizzlepip.5218:

Darkhaven’s overwhelming 70+ zerg loses to DR’s small (but basically godlike) roaming but not playing for points party!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JxQ2jJeyifc

…Well at least the hour of badge farming in your East Keep was fun.

All that siege and you let me sneak a portal in with 8 guildies to end it. so close, too bad you couldn’t pull off what we did to you on Monday. Talk about badges hahaha :P better luck next time

Fizzlepip.5218:

Elementalist Owner.7802:

I’m simply proving the DH who believe that they win due to tactics wrong.

/SNIP

Oozo.7856:

There are just as many, if not more, DH there in your screenshot. Next time cover up the minimap so we can’t see all of the green dots.

/shakes head

You fail to understand the point. It’s not the size of the DH zerg, but the size of the DR zerg. /SNIP

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/SNIP

@PD, Thanks for the fun guys. Great fights.

+1 SNFU! The ruins battle was lots of fun.

No, YOU fail to understand the point!
For those of you who are really this thick, it’s not about the size of a server in one map, but the time and map COVERAGE across the “4” maps.
We may have -insert absurd multiplying number of players- in one map at prime time, but that’s it… ‘Prime Time’ and ‘One Map’.

back to pointless ramblings:
I would love to have the coverage that you in dh have(cos you guys really don’t do it justice), or at the very least the night presence that keeps IoJ in this tier but we can’t have everything now, can we?
Instead we have a few select smaller guilds and one rather large guild which has the population of around 0-20 players (through out ALL maps) from 10pm onwards. Yes, it’s possible you may see a couple more here and there but obviously I cannot account for the exact number apart from what I see on a daily basis being probably one of the only… 2? Aussie on DR, who gets the ability to have flexible work hours to compete in both time zones most nights.

Yo DH thanks for Wildcreek for a bit, that was rather amusing. Good fighting!