Guild Wars 2

Interested in other opinions. Here is my perspective on the new rank chests…

Only 3 items in the new rank chest. One item is commendations (which I already have a ton…). One item is a plan and one item is random loot. I do better spending 10 minutes running the jumping puzzle. Comparing the wvw rank chest to a world event, it sucks. WvW rank chest is way more effort. At a world event I get at least six items and one is a guaranteed rare. How do they plan to draw people over to WvW with this minuscule reward?

At least you’re getting chests. I’ve ranked up more than once and havent got a chest at all yet.

A poorly thought out reward system for WvW…. who would have thought.

I’m really really curious about this statement from Colin:

ColinJohanson.2394:

Ascended items and infusions both will cost a less than normal amount of laurels, and a badge cost as well. (Ascended accessories will remain laurels + ecto, but with new WvW rank reward chests you’re going to be getting a lot more Ecto!)

I’m not sure I’m understanding how we’re going to be seeing “a lot more Ecto” with these rank reward chests.

So far 8 chests 8 greens.

Ppl should stop whining that the reward is little when its so much more then we had before… this community is getting worse and worse.. chests are a great thing for ppl who only do wvw since it adds some money to the stuff you like to do.. and if you rather do pve then plz do so cause less ques for the ppl who actually do wvw for the fights.

Liquid.9672:

I’m not sure I’m understanding how we’re going to be seeing “a lot more Ecto” with these rank reward chests.

They can drop rare and exotic gear?

4 chests: 3 greens, 1 rare.

-ken

No disappointment for me, pretty much what I expected to get. If there was something really valuable (might be, I don’t know) then problem would be that some lucky get those plenty and some not at all.

Chests are fine actually, and a good addition to WvW. Complaining won’t stop being the meta here on the forums for a while it seems. If you want to have something to be unsatisfied about, go to the topic where they discuss the costs of ascended gear.

Are you talking the reward chest you get for each wvw level?

Because I had 6 and I found only BoH and some silver, not even a green. I was starting to wonder if they dropped something besides silvers an BoHs.

lordkrall.7241:

Liquid.9672:

I’m not sure I’m understanding how we’re going to be seeing “a lot more Ecto” with these rank reward chests.

They can drop rare and exotic gear?

Sure they “can”. However, do you guys see the drop rate for rares translating into “a lot more Ecto”?

Edit – By the way, for the record, I’m not complaining. I’m just wondering if the drop rate on rares in WvW is where Anet wants it to be. I’ve wondered this for awhile actually. I can practically roll my face across the keyboard in PvE and easily get 5 times the rares than in WvW, if not more. Maybe it’s intended, but I’m not sure why.

I like the chests tbh… Every extra badge is a badge much appreciated. Plus the 15-17s per chest doesn’t hurt. It’s not much, but it’s better than not getting them at all.

QQ all you want about not getting super stuff from the chests. You’re still better off than before.

Liquid.9672:

Sure they “can”. However, do you guys see the drop rate for rares translating into “a lot more Ecto”?

Well since we don’t have a drop rate it is quite pointless to speculate. But I would say it is high enough to increase the supply of ectos yeah.

Mega Myth.5307:

How do they plan to draw people over to WvW with this minuscule reward?

Most of the people who have stuck through all the shortcomings of WvW are definitely not in it for the rewards. They are a welcome bonus however.

As someone who primarily plays WvW, the rank chests are more than enough compensation for playing the game mode I love. I was able to get an ascended ring from a rank chest which I wouldn’t have been able to get before unless I did fractals, which I absolutely dislike.

I do high level fractals and get greens more than I should for the amount of time and frustration I put into them. Stop your whining. WvW is very rewarding, especially if competing against JQ and BG.

I don’t really need gold. Just kitten me off that they don’t give anything exiting. For example gear and weapon skins. Higher you get in ranks cooler looking skins you get and so on. Same with www achievements. If you have killed 250k players or you have capped SM X times you deserve cool looking items which some cash shopper can’t just buy.

Junkpile.7439:

I don’t really need gold. Just kitten me off that they don’t give anything exiting. For example gear and weapon skins. Higher you get in ranks cooler looking skins you get and so on. Same with www achievements. If you have killed 250k players or you have capped SM X times you deserve cool looking items which some cash shopper can’t just buy.

Now that you mention it, I would like to get a fractal hammer skin from my rank chest. That thing just looks so cool. But not cool enough to make me do level 20+ fractals and pray to RNGod.

Why you even get cool items from fractals. Cool people don’t even go fractals. You should get some nerd goggles from fractals.

I think the chests are fantastic! Great job Anet. To anyone who is complaining: are you friggin serious? Ranking is easier than before. You never got chests before, so this is new. You get money, siege, and a chance at awesome drops. They actually took the time to make this retroactive too! How on earth can you complain about this? It’s a great little perk and only incentivizes WvW play even more.

Mega Myth.5307:

How do they plan to draw people over to WvW with this minuscule reward?

If people are playing for just the reward, you are playing for all the wrong reasons.

Rewards very meh I expected at least a guaranteed rare like a world event chest. Takes a bit more time to level than doing a couple of the easy events and far less reward. Is what it is I guess. I played wvw before the change and will still play after just thought we were finally getting something interesting but just more lackluster additions.

Hydrii.5136:

Rewards very meh I expected at least a guaranteed rare like a world event chest. Takes a bit more time to level than doing a couple of the easy events and far less reward. Is what it is I guess. I played wvw before the change and will still play after just thought we were finally getting something interesting but just more lackluster additions.

So you wanted to be able to get LOADS of free rares every single day?
It is after all quite easy to rank up multiple times per day.

I think what would have been interesting is to give these chests also a drop rate for WvW-exclusive skins. But, I too do question whether the rare drop rate is what they were intending. The dev plainly said that ecto’s wouldn’t be an issue for getting ascended gear, however if you’re getting say, ~4-5 chests a day and lucky to get 1 rare, you might get an ecto from it…though probably not.

That being said, I do like the chests At least it’s something..it’s not a lot, and PvE people do get more for their time in terms of gold (when I go a PvE binge I easily get much more gold, I farmed 100g in 6 days doing pure PvE) than people who spend their time in only WvW.

I don’t expect a free rare every day, or even a free rare at all. But I so far have yet to hear anyone get an exotic or an asceded, or even more than 1 rare per 5 or so chests (which is about the same drop rate for rares by spending 1 minute in the LA jumping puzzles).

These boxes should have introduced a new currency, and this new currency should be what you use to buy WvW ascended items, not kittened laurels.

Why do we as WvW’ers keep selling ourselves short in these discussion. “we do not play for the reward” or “you get it while you are doing what you are playing the game anyways” are both true statements, but how is it different at all from PvE rewards? Do they not get those chests for doing what they like to do as well?

When Devon posts statements like: “…to not invalidate the ways PvE players…” I think it is fair for WvWers to question what about validating the ways WvW players get loot?

I can half akitten farm investigator chests in Southsun and get the exact same thing as we are getting with a fraction of the effort. Dragon chests give better rewards and also dead simple to do.

There is a difference between being greedy and just wanting it balanced with other aspects of the game.

I still have to chuckle whenever I think back of the mention of “precursors” in the patch notes. If this is their way of getting more precursors in the system, we’ll be busy until the next millenium.

ANet: “Here, have some free stuff for something you were going to do anyway.”

QQers: “Sorry, but that free stuff isn’t good enough. By the way, you guys suck for giving us sub-par free stuff.”

Seriously guys, do you READ what you post? GET OVER IT. We’d all be playing with or without these rankings and chests. You’re getting something for nothing and you have the audacity to complain about it.

10 chests so far. Each provided one siege, one green and 5 badges.

shortcake.8659:

These boxes should have introduced a new currency, and this new currency should be what you use to buy WvW ascended items, not kittened laurels.

Without some form of currency wallet, we don’t need more piles of stuff taking up our inventory and bank slots!

Hickeroar.9734:

ANet: “Here, have some free stuff for something you were going to do anyway.”

QQers: “Sorry, but that free stuff isn’t good enough. By the way, you guys suck for giving us sub-par free stuff.”

Seriously guys, do you READ what you post? GET OVER IT. We’d all be playing with or without these rankings and chests. You’re getting something for nothing and you have the audacity to complain about it.

Actually I have modified how I spend time in WvW to accommodate earning wvwxp. It means I’m spending time doing things I don’t really like but the promise of “ecto” from the rank chests convinced me it was worth the time and energy. It was not, lol.

I don’t really enjoy PVE much but it looks like it will be required to help fund WvW time. (Frost Ma takes 5 minutes and yields 2 rares. Stupid mindless and boring but it certainly pays well)

I am happy to get more gear options and occasional rank chests for WvW. But it would have been nice to have it scale a bit better with time spent vs rewards compared to PVE.

Kyuzo.4675:

Hickeroar.9734:

ANet: “Here, have some free stuff for something you were going to do anyway.”

QQers: “Sorry, but that free stuff isn’t good enough. By the way, you guys suck for giving us sub-par free stuff.”

Seriously guys, do you READ what you post? GET OVER IT. We’d all be playing with or without these rankings and chests. You’re getting something for nothing and you have the audacity to complain about it.

Actually I have modified how I spend time in WvW to accommodate earning wvwxp. It means I’m spending time doing things I don’t really like but the promise of “ecto” from the rank chests convinced me it was worth the time and energy. It was not, lol.

I don’t really enjoy PVE much but it looks like it will be required to help fund WvW time. (Frost Ma takes 5 minutes and yields 2 rares. Stupid mindless and boring but it certainly pays well)

I am happy to get more gear options and occasional rank chests for WvW. But it would have been nice to have it scale a bit better with time spent vs rewards compared to PVE.

This sums of the crazy duality of all of these posts. You say that PvE is “mindless and boring but it pays well”, and that WvW is fun and doesn’t pay as well. To me that sounds like a fair bargain. If you don’t care about PvE then what does it matter how much gold you have anyway? Fancy skins dont kill people any faster in WvW.

displacedTitan.6897:

Kyuzo.4675:

Hickeroar.9734:

ANet: “Here, have some free stuff for something you were going to do anyway.”

QQers: “Sorry, but that free stuff isn’t good enough. By the way, you guys suck for giving us sub-par free stuff.”

Seriously guys, do you READ what you post? GET OVER IT. We’d all be playing with or without these rankings and chests. You’re getting something for nothing and you have the audacity to complain about it.

Actually I have modified how I spend time in WvW to accommodate earning wvwxp. It means I’m spending time doing things I don’t really like but the promise of “ecto” from the rank chests convinced me it was worth the time and energy. It was not, lol.

I don’t really enjoy PVE much but it looks like it will be required to help fund WvW time. (Frost Ma takes 5 minutes and yields 2 rares. Stupid mindless and boring but it certainly pays well)

I am happy to get more gear options and occasional rank chests for WvW. But it would have been nice to have it scale a bit better with time spent vs rewards compared to PVE.

This sums of the crazy duality of all of these posts. You say that PvE is “mindless and boring but it pays well”, and that WvW is fun and doesn’t pay as well. To me that sounds like a fair bargain. If you don’t care about PvE then what does it matter how much gold you have anyway? Fancy skins dont kill people any faster in WvW.

The biggest money sink in WvW: upgrades upgrades upgrades. Repairs don’t really cost that much, though siege can if you’re not using badges. However, upgrading keeps can cost a lot, and a lot of people seem to not like to domate. I onetime asked in our home borderlands for donations for a fortify, and from a fully queued map I got 5 people…other times I get 50 people, so it all depends. But upgrades can really be a massive money sink to people if they’re constantly doing it out of their own pocket (which I wouldn’t recommend!) And while pretty skins/dyes don’t get people killed, that doesn’t mean we , as players, don’t want to have them (thats actually what I spend the most of my money on, but I rarely have money issues since I take the occassional PvE binge for a few days)

Lucky Shot.7650:

Are you talking the reward chest you get for each wvw level?

Because I had 6 and I found only BoH and some silver, not even a green. I was starting to wonder if they dropped something besides silvers an BoHs.

Of course you don’t get items from the low WvW levels. If that was the case people would just make alts and farm the first few 1k WXP levels.

My only problem with them is the chance of green items should be removed…

Each chest should give a rare or above (so basically a rare each time but once in a blue moon something better), just like the world event chests…

Even with that change the world events are still better…

Other than that they are good and a welcome change…

Chests are cool. Lil extra loot to sell. But their lack was never an issue. Played and enjoyed wvw just fine without em.

Chests in pve don’t give guaranteed good loot either, why should wvw chests?

The chests are pretty cool. Only got greens so far but today alone I got 6 chests which means 30 badges, 1 trebuchet blueprint and 1 catapult blueprint (the rest were flameram / AC). How could you possibly complain about that? If I get a rare sometime even better!

Royce Melborn.3276:

How could you possibly complain about that? If I get a rare sometime even better!

Because rares, siege weapons or badges doesn’t mean kitten to me. I would take green skins (which wouldn’t make my character look something else than cheap stripper) over these every day.

Junkpile.7439:

Royce Melborn.3276:

How could you possibly complain about that? If I get a rare sometime even better!

Because rares, siege weapons or badges doesn’t mean kitten to me.

Then what does?

I like it less rewards even no chests get out pve from wvw, i dont want queues I dont want signet builds I like ot play with my devoted friends who play like team not mindless pve nerds farming just ranks and chests…..

Junkpile.7439:

Royce Melborn.3276:

How could you possibly complain about that? If I get a rare sometime even better!

Because rares, siege weapons or badges doesn’t mean kitten to me. I would take green skins (which wouldn’t make my character look something else than cheap stripper) over these every day.

And what makes you think that these chests are added for people that are not really interested in WvW?

The problem is that the rare drop it’s too low… I understand that it’s not a “guaranteed rare” (i think it should be, not every day can get tons of chests, it depends on how your match is going, and also it takes some time to get a rank, so not lots of players get lots of chests/day).

I’ve been playing WvW 7 months and i just play this game for WvW, and i h8 to have to go PvE just to play WvW on a decent way (buying upgrades). I think we need a way to can earn some money by just playing WvW, of course playing right now give to you the enough money to pay repairs and some upgrades, but you can’t earn money from it or need lot of time to earn the same as one PvE guy can earn doing 5 times CoF p1 (I ALSO WANT TO LOOK COOL!).

The badges on the chests.. meh… maybe are good for the people who want them for the legendary.. I’m still thinking how i’ll buy gems to get more bank slots so i’ll be able to deposit this badges…

Blueprints.. yeah.. it’s okay.. i’ll use them.

But now i want to say something.. Doing de WvW JP give more reward than WXP chests (more blueprints, almost the same badges and more items).

I actually opened 12 chests… I still want to see a rare item at least.. got 12 greens.

As I’m on a server with serious WvW population issues (NSP), I was hoping the chests would have better/more loot so that more PvE’ers would be encouraged to try out WvW. I guess that’s not going to happen.

By the way, with the addition of these chests (and the badges in them) — I say we get rid of badges as rewards for the JP’s.

I just play wvw for the community and the battles, the guild content and overall fun

So some of you hate the new chests because it doesn’t reward you enough to do WvW? I seriously can’t understand that logic. I do WvW to pvp and to fight enemies, to enjoy skirmishes and big battles, not to go kill for a reward and expect 100% to get a precursor which seems to be the case with a lot of you lot making these kinds of threads. I get the feeling you guys are the same guys who posted in forums from other MMO’s after you got PKED and your gear dropped, but when YOU got an item for a player it was great because you got rewarded. Some of you are just unbelievable.

Force.2841:

So some of you hate the new chests because it doesn’t reward you enough to do WvW? I seriously can’t understand that logic. I do WvW to pvp and to fight enemies, to enjoy skirmishes and big battles, not to go kill for a reward and expect 100% to get a precursor which seems to be the case with a lot of you lot making these kinds of threads. I get the feeling you guys are the same guys who posted in forums from other MMO’s after you got PKED and your gear dropped, but when YOU got an item for a player it was great because you got rewarded. Some of you are just unbelievable.

My feeling is that a lot of PvE players don’t even try out WvW because they hear of the crappy rewards… the more/better the rewards, the more people we’ll have in WvW — which is great for the lower tiers.

Good because it will be full of PVE players that want the award making huge queues
this way more players that doesn’t rly care for the chest but for the WvW will go there