Guild Wars 2

A very blessed person

Go go Viz forum warriors, we’re behind in forum WvW wars !!! This is our last stand in this topic (I won’t count the 50 pts for that).

Sorry, too busy on real WvW maps.

VcY what are you talking about with your “better open field server” ? I wish to fight open field, but everytime that happen with a similar sized group, SFR guys ran away and jumped through the next keep door. Is that you call “an open field fight ?” Jeez.

unless that what you call fun is us staying like a lemon outside waiting for the SFR starcruiser to impact ? That is not a mark of bravery, just a lack of skill or a will to give a bag … you can’t ask for openfield fight and come with such massive gathering

Split and start to come with a 20-25 group instead of that 50+ blob and you’ll have open field fights. Most of the time, we are all (you as us) unable to do anything else than auto-attack because of lags. that never happened before you came to T1.

All right! You heard it folks: SFR is the reason why GW2 lags so much!
We appologise :-(

really you speak for blobing? when you move in 2 groups in 30+ on your own map? and use the culling to your advantage? ok seems you still can show spirit
Try to show it on battlefield not to run when we are even numbers wow..
Really posts like this one above me kitten me off.
And wtf you guys rooted to towers or what you pay those guys to stay all the time in towers and pushing the 2 skill on trebs or what… trebbed greenlake tower on your bl like all they yesterday and never managed to take it:DD: gj
And 1 hint even if you take it we can start the outbreak:D

Angelyne.2936:

Split and start to come with a 20-25 group instead of that 50+ blob and you’ll have open field fights. Most of the time, we are all (you as us) unable to do anything else than auto-attack because of lags. that never happened before you came to T1.

Pot calling kettle black yesterday afternoon Deso where out manned in EB we took a group of 15-20 to SFR corner and who did we find?… not SFR but 60-70 Viz holding hands like a tsunami. Tbh 20-25 man groups are very scarce now in tier 2 and above.

When piken joined tier 2 the 20-25 man raid was how the server rolled despite it’s coverage they found both JS and SFR did a fair bit of holding hands the explanation given was they had merely learned and adapted from experience fighting Viz in tier 1 you set the standard of play for anyone competing in tier 1 and now you despise the very monster you created.

This thread is so bad that I can’t help but spam F5.
It’s like watching a plane crash while getting off to the thought of Justin Bieber taking a shower on Friday the 13th.

Meanwhile in EBJP, VS thought it would be funny to portal camp the arena.

Until we picked them off one by one.

And then we portal camped the arena. It was funny.

Call us Frankenstouille and you Cinderella.

Battlelog:

- Vizunah send about 5 players on the SFR borderland and let them cap SFR-supply camps.
- Right after they tap it, they started to build a golem in the camp and port it to ther spawn
-about 30min later when they had about 10 golems ready at spawn, they called so many people as possible to the SFR map and started to rush a T3 bay with 10 golems and about 30+ players (couldt count all because of the lag)
- the SFR bay gates melt down like butter, also because we didnt had that large of numbers to defend at this time.
- After they tap the bay, they ported the Golems back and took Hills quick after (well hills was only a T1 keep)

Ive seen this (so called)“tactic” o_O not the first time by Vizunah, and its one of the main ressons why I disrespekt Vizunah. They always go the way with the least resistance and talking about “fair fights”…

Sorry, next time we will sand you a wisp to let you know when and where we’ere going to hit.

1h to prepare is enough? Your word.

Domo.7618:

Battlelog:

- Vizunah send about 5 players on the SFR borderland and let them cap SFR-supply camps.
- Right after they tap it, they started to build a golem in the camp and port it to ther spawn
-about 30min later when they had about 10 golems ready at spawn, they called so many people as possible to the SFR map and started to rush a T3 bay with 10 golems and about 30+ players (couldt count all because of the lag)
- the SFR bay gates melt down like butter, also because we didnt had that large of numbers to defend at this time.
- After they tap the bay, they ported the Golems back and took Hills quick after (well hills was only a T1 keep)

Ive seen this (so called)“tactic” o_O not the first time by Vizunah, and its one of the main ressons why I disrespekt Vizunah. They always go the way with the least resistance and talking about “fair fights”…

This is what SFR does as well, bus swaping between maps to go where nobody is.
I see this all the time when there is no waiting queue.
In fact we adapt to your playstyle, which is very much based on that.
And that bus chasing between maps is so common that I wonder why the hell you complain about it.
You hate others doing what you do on your own ?

Domo.7618:

When you see 20+ defending, you arnt even start a atack.

Of course we do. When we are 60+

Xispeo.1706:

Domo.7618:

Battlelog:

- Vizunah send about 5 players on the SFR borderland and let them cap SFR-supply camps.
- Right after they tap it, they started to build a golem in the camp and port it to ther spawn
-about 30min later when they had about 10 golems ready at spawn, they called so many people as possible to the SFR map and started to rush a T3 bay with 10 golems and about 30+ players (couldt count all because of the lag)
- the SFR bay gates melt down like butter, also because we didnt had that large of numbers to defend at this time.
- After they tap the bay, they ported the Golems back and took Hills quick after (well hills was only a T1 keep)

Ive seen this (so called)“tactic” o_O not the first time by Vizunah, and its one of the main ressons why I disrespekt Vizunah. They always go the way with the least resistance and talking about “fair fights”…

This is what SFR does as well, bus swaping between maps to go where nobody is.
I see this all the time when there is no waiting queue.
In fact we adapt to your playstyle, which is very much based on that.
And that bus chasing between maps is so common that I wonder why the hell you complain about it.
You hate others doing what you do on your own ?

You do what has to be done, specially in offtimes, and that is increase your PPT as much as possible. You got good organization for that and that is why you tick 400 and we 150, ORGANIZATION. Coming here to cry about that seems kinda lame, you don´t even have much more people, just manage them efficiently. Keep doing that, maybe someday we adapt instead of crying. GZ for organization.

Quick update on forum WvW scores :

Patch :
- “you hide in tower/keep/castle” is now worth 25 pts
- the special Sacrx “you’re rats” insult is now worth
50 pts

Scores :

Viz : 65 pts
Déso : 85 pts
SFR : 235 pts

okis. But dont forget your tissue. (why are you even telling it me? pffft)

Anyways.

The Vizunah server appears to me as they only care about points and not fair fights. Its nothing wrong about it, everyone have ther own targets in life and game. But from my point of view the Vizunah server destroy some kind of flare in the WvW wich I like. And I blame Arena.net for it. Because ther ranked-list is non-sence (right now). The ranked-list shows only wich server got the most players 24/7, but not wich server got the best tactics, guilds, fighters etc.

A step in the right direction would be IMO to put a 2nd offical ranked-list up, wich shows how many kills each server did per week.
Ther is already a Achivment wich shows how many kills everyone done. I am not a computer expert, but it shouldt be hard to make a script wich saves up those kills and count them.

Anyways, gotta go back to work.

smell ya around

REAL.7483:

…You do what has to be done, specially in offtimes, and that is increase your PPT as much as possible. You got good organization for that and that is why you tick 400 and we 150, ORGANIZATION. Coming here to cry about that seems kinda lame, you don´t even have much more people, just manage them efficiently. Keep doing that, maybe someday we adapt instead of crying. GZ for organization.

Thank you.
You wanted us at our best, we are in a best-effort mode definitely for the current WvW match.
Some few fails here or there, noone’s perfect

Down! Down! Down! Saw down the hollow feets of the giant with his untenable theories!

rip-rap-rip-rap

Domo.7618:

…The Vizunah server appears to me as they only care about points and not fair fights…The ranked-list shows only wich server got the most players 24/7, but not wich server got the best tactics, guilds, fighters etc… Ther is already a Achivment wich shows how many kills everyone done….

The current best SFR players are most probably the ones from nomad guilds. And I hardly think you would win with kills/tactics specific counters. You still think that players are that different between servers… oO This is not true. Some few servers are concentrating WvW players who want to compete. Nothing else, nothing more. Still trying to put as much hatred as possible on VZ is just mean.

Xispeo.1706:

You wanted us at our best, we are in a best-effort mode definitely for the current WvW match.
Some few fails here or there, noone’s perfect

You are by far the most dedicated server and your pug organization is amazing , same goes for your siege usage-coverage. I think none can deny that.

Domo.7618:

okis. But dont forget your tissue. (why are you even telling it me? pffft)

Anyways.

The Vizunah server appears to me as they only care about points and not fair fights. Its nothing wrong about it, everyone have ther own targets in life and game. But from my point of view the Vizunah server destroy some kind of flare in the WvW wich I like. And I blame Arena.net for it. Because ther ranked-list is non-sence (right now). The ranked-list shows only wich server got the most players 24/7, but not wich server got the best tactics, guilds, fighters etc.

A step in the right direction would be IMO to put a 2nd offical ranked-list up, wich shows how many kills each server did per week.
Ther is already a Achivment wich shows how many kills everyone done. I am not a computer expert, but it shouldt be hard to make a script wich saves up those kills and count them.

Anyways, gotta go back to work.

smell ya around

You dare proposing such a terrible idea and talking about “tactics” in the same post ? Come on, you can’t be serious. What would such a number show ? Absolutely nothing ! It would reduce WvW to a simple mega PvP ground, where no tactics exists, and where the only point would be to kill ennemies. Probably the worst idea about WvW I read so far.

Creating diversions, faking an attacks, voluntarily letting a point being captured, THAT’S TACTIC, even if you kill less ennemies, who cares ? That’s not the point of WvW ! You would belong those commanders who say “Mission failed, but we did more victims, so NP”. WvW is about capturing points, so we do capture points. They may add a victim-per-week counter, but no way it should be used to rank servers.

graverr.6473:

I have seen quite a few hackers on many servers and i only missed two of these but never have i seen open field hacking like on visunah.

Obviously you were not on or against SFR v1, none did better than you so far.

_

When piken joined tier 2 the 20-25 man raid was how the server rolled despite it’s coverage they found both JS and SFR did a fair bit of holding hands the explanation given was they had merely learned and adapted from experience fighting Viz in tier 1 you set the standard of play for anyone competing in tier 1 and now you despise the very monster you created.

You’re wrong.
It’s Vizunah that learned and adapted from SFR, we were forced to do it for survive when they came in T1 playing only monozerg of 60+ guildies.
I must admit that i miss our former gameplay … multi raids of 15-25 was much more fun and tactic.

Nachtz.4930:

So the current ranked-list shows wich server have the better tactic? I doubt it

I also said that it would be 1 step in the right direction “IMO”, and I also didnt said to remove the old ranked-list, I said to add a 2nd ranked-list.

Domo.7618:

Ive seen this (so called)“tactic” o_O not the first time by Vizunah, and its one of the main ressons why I disrespekt Vizunah. They always go the way with the least resistance and talking about “fair fights”…

That’s right. Why make complicated when it’s sufficient to make a /dance ?
http://hpics.li/637058e
http://hpics.li/7a3909f

Domo.7618:

Nachtz.4930:

So the current ranked-list shows wich server have the better tactic? I doubt it

I also said that it would be 1 step in the right direction “IMO”, and I also didnt said to remove the old ranked-list, I said to add a 2nd ranked-list.

Imho an easy way to make an improvement in that direction would be to give a small amount of points per kill. The downside of that is that I can already imagine some servers going even more defensive to avoid dying and giving points.

Another possible adjustment would be to dynamically open/close borderlands depending on the number of active players. Where the numbers of the server with lowest population in WvW would determine the amount of open Borderlands. This would reduce the impact of offpeak players to a reasonable amount. Again this could be abused by intentionally logging off/ not playing WvW during the period the enemy servers are sronger.

Grok.6714:

So where would Deso be without Iron?

Iron is the pride of Desolation. Without them we wouldn’t be near as great as we are. We give them the admiration and support they deserve and will continue to fight along side them.

But the same could be said for all the Deso guilds. We’re not a one guild server, every guild that fights on WvW sheds blood, sweat and tears to succeed.

Credit goes where credit is due!

This is like real war – the coolest guy wins all.

- sfr has the first forum writer with attachment
- the best joke
- the most iconic war guilds (since release!) :P
- members who have no interests in puzzle-games where you have to jump for the win or other pve-contents in wvwvwvwvwvwvw contents
- a minimum of one “golden dolyak”
- no fear for lootbag-invasion and whats to do therefore
- best pyrotechnics

Domo.7618:

Battlelog:

- Vizunah send about 5 players on the SFR borderland and let them cap SFR-supply camps.
- Right after they tap it, they started to build a golem in the camp and port it to ther spawn
-about 30min later when they had about 10 golems ready at spawn, they called so many people as possible to the SFR map and started to rush a T3 bay with 10 golems and about 30+ players (couldt count all because of the lag)
- the SFR bay gates melt down like butter, also because we didnt had that large of numbers to defend at this time.
- After they tap the bay, they ported the Golems back and took Hills quick after (well hills was only a T1 keep)

you took hills back with 6 golems 30 minutes later. t1 zero defender. ok?

Poor Desolation ticking +50…

It’s stranger no spokemen from SFR came to throw a “you see? we also focus Desolation, there is no arrangement!” I assume it would be too big, they don’t dare even if they will do anything when their #1 is threatened.

Not caring about score huh?

Phoebe Ascension.8437:

…Do you play in EB? Because vizunah EB retreats more then any other server I met. Admittedly it depends. Sometimes we met ‘courageous’ zerg, that fights us without fear. But then when those commanders seems gone, it’s the usual vizunah EB spirit (dunno about borderlands), that pops in = hiding in towers. Lately you came out of your doors a bit more, but only with perfect organization. (super siege, 60+ man, almost certain succes), to then hop into the towers again, after the mission succeed. While it is your right to do, statistically speaking, vizunah is still the most ‘tower hiding’ server (on EB).

We can say exactly the same thing about your server, last evening I spent most of my time by chasing you guys on the SFR map, I am even considering tweaking my gears with some sup runes of speed. So what ? Maybe consider that a group of guys prefering to retreat inside their defenses to avoid wiping is a normal behavior that you will see on every server. Some raids don’t anyway, and they are on SFR, VZ and Deso and most probably on most other servers, and they wipe much bigger bus and being outnumbered is not a problem for them (us, since I am pleased to contribute to these bag orgies).

Deso is outmanned on all 4 maps, whats going on? are we fighting to fall to tier 2?

Kingface.9781:

Poor Desolation ticking +50…

It’s stranger no spokemen from SFR came to throw a “you see? we also focus Desolation, there is no arrangement!” I assume it would be too big, they don’t dare even if they will do anything when their #1 is threatened.

Not caring about score huh?

Well we all know that Deso has less players, their offer us some good fights and are learning currently that they may not stay a T1 server for a long. As least they don’t complain, don’t whine and are not looking for excuses. The VZ machine is ON this week, let the feast keep going.

Xispeo.1706:

Kingface.9781:

Poor Desolation ticking +50…

It’s stranger no spokemen from SFR came to throw a “you see? we also focus Desolation, there is no arrangement!” I assume it would be too big, they don’t dare even if they will do anything when their #1 is threatened.

Not caring about score huh?

Well we all know that Deso has less players, their offer us some good fights and are learning currently that they may not stay a T1 server for a long. As least they don’t complain, don’t whine and are not looking for excuses. The VZ machine is ON this week, let the feast keep going.

Yes of course, I don’t blame Desolation for anything.

I just see the non-official arrangement to get VS down to T2 is quickly putted down in the garbage to the detriment of Desolation when the mighty T1-maker SFR is threatened.

“GG mentalité”

Kingface.9781:

Xispeo.1706:

Kingface.9781:

Poor Desolation ticking +50…

It’s stranger no spokemen from SFR came to throw a “you see? we also focus Desolation, there is no arrangement!” I assume it would be too big, they don’t dare even if they will do anything when their #1 is threatened.

Not caring about score huh?

Well we all know that Deso has less players, their offer us some good fights and are learning currently that they may not stay a T1 server for a long. As least they don’t complain, don’t whine and are not looking for excuses. The VZ machine is ON this week, let the feast keep going.

Yes of course, I don’t blame Desolation for anything.

I just see the non-official arrangement to get VS down to T2 is quickly putted down in the garbage to the detriment of Desolation when the mighty T1-maker SFR is threatened.

“GG mentalité”

Deso plays opportunities, SFR used them much to try to kick us of T1, Deso considered that situation a good way to stay T1, we survived to dual focus and may even finish first this week. We just adapt to them.

Kingface.9781:

Poor Desolation ticking +50…

Dude… Deso don’t have coverage like SFR or Vizu so it’s pretty normal we will have poor point-tickin when every1 is at school/work. We are mainly primetimers only. And tbh we don’t rly care.

Still we manage to be in T1 for some time now. And thats what im proud of tbh.

I still don’t get how ppl can get worked out by simple www fights or how one should play to please the other side. Thats a game, not real life with politics, but i see most of you still don’t get it.

Kenmei.7138:

Kingface.9781:

Poor Desolation ticking +50…

Dude… Deso don’t have coverage like SFR or Vizu so it’s pretty normal we will have poor point-tickin when every1 is at school/work. We are mainly primetimers only. And tbh we don’t rly care.

Still we manage to be in T1 for some time now. And thats what im proud of tbh.

I still don’t get how ppl can get worked out by simple www fights or how one should play to please the other side. Thats a game, not real life with politics, but i see most of you still don’t get it.

I agree. But for a lot of people it’s more than a game and you have 2 sides.

First, the good one, people like on VS who play the game as it has been designed in a competitive way, without friendship between servers but respect.

And the second, the bad one, with people like we can see in this topic, the frustrated and egocentric haters, ready to ruin the game of enemies and mates because they don’t agree with the rules and they don’t like the gameplay of other players.

Trolling is not a big deal, but too many people are mistaking trolling for flaming.

Kingface.9781:

Kenmei.7138:

Kingface.9781:

Poor Desolation ticking +50…

Dude… Deso don’t have coverage like SFR or Vizu so it’s pretty normal we will have poor point-tickin when every1 is at school/work. We are mainly primetimers only. And tbh we don’t rly care.

Still we manage to be in T1 for some time now. And thats what im proud of tbh.

I still don’t get how ppl can get worked out by simple www fights or how one should play to please the other side. Thats a game, not real life with politics, but i see most of you still don’t get it.

I agree. But for a lot of people it’s more than a game and you have 2 sides.

First, the good one, people like on VS who play the game as it has been designed in a competitive way, without friendship between servers but respect.

And the second, the bad one, with people like we can see in this topic, the frustrated and egocentric haters, ready to ruin the game of enemies and mates because they don’t agree with the rules and they don’t like the gameplay of other players.

Trolling is not a big deal, but too many people are mistaking trolling for flaming.

actually from a www casual player, its more than you cannot see the difference between bad sportmanship exploiting rules and “playing the game like its meant”.

The game is not meant to be played when other doesn t play……
There is a rule for the sake of people who can PLAY at night or in the morning to have fun in what is defined “casual mass pvp”.

Winning at all costs in a casual game is sad for everyone who tries to do that…..despite i can more justify it as an answer rather than a long estabilished strategy.

P.S. on the opposing side 2VS1 is actually MEANT to happen…..and the Whole reason to have WvWvW….even if this doesn t happen…

(got pinched so many times by deso and viz……but i doubt they planned it)

You Knows Kenmei, ppl that post here are far to be representative of their server, myself included. Most of our servers mates (all of our server) just play for fun and really don’t care of who is in front or what tier we are. They play a lot if it’s fun and balanced, and leave to PvE if they get killed more often than expected.

Even SFR with his gathered PvP guild from all around the world have to deal with populations peaks.

Kingface.9781:

Kenmei.7138:

Kingface.9781:

Poor Desolation ticking +50…

Dude… Deso don’t have coverage like SFR or Vizu so it’s pretty normal we will have poor point-tickin when every1 is at school/work. We are mainly primetimers only. And tbh we don’t rly care.

Still we manage to be in T1 for some time now. And thats what im proud of tbh.

I still don’t get how ppl can get worked out by simple www fights or how one should play to please the other side. Thats a game, not real life with politics, but i see most of you still don’t get it.

I agree. But for a lot of people it’s more than a game and you have 2 sides.

First, the good one, people like on VS who play the game as it has been designed in a competitive way, without friendship between servers but respect.

And the second, the bad one, with people like we can see in this topic, the frustrated and egocentric haters, ready to ruin the game of enemies and mates because they don’t agree with the rules and they don’t like the gameplay of other players.

Trolling is not a big deal, but too many people are mistaking trolling for flaming.

Yeah, I do understand that many ppl are hardcore gamers and they want to accomplish something. Still it’s even less reason to be touched by trollers or flamers. Flamers flame because they can’t hold off anger when they’re loosing. Also because they want to feel they’re special or good in some way. It’s simple like that.

I’m pretty sure that in the future when ppl will flashback to fights in T1 they will say mostly “yeah VZ were great in this and that, i had many good fights with them” than “they were hackers”.

LordByron.8369:

actually from a www casual player, its more than you cannot see the difference between bad sportmanship exploiting rules and “playing the game like its meant”.

The game is not meant to be played when other doesn t play……
There is a rule for the sake of people who can PLAY at night or in the morning to have fun in what is defined “casual mass pvp”.

Winning at all costs in a casual game is sad for everyone who tries to do that…..despite i can more justify it as an answer rather than a long estabilished strategy.

P.S. on the opposing side 2VS1 is actually MEANT to happen…..and the Whole reason to have WvWvW….even if this doesn t happen…

(got pinched so many times by deso and viz……but i doubt they planned it)

Dual focus, and we said it often, is quite normal, 3 servers on one map and for sure it will happen sooner or later. What I don’t get is why it is denied so much.

WvW is a competition, T1 is the highest level, if you don’t accept that some players are involved enough to play at night, and they deserve our respect, I suggest you to play in lower divisions. I mean the game is designed for that.

This is extremely simple for ANet to get a perfect balance between servers population : never let players of one server outnumber other ones. But this is not WvW in that case, this is instanciated guilds/groups fights. Don’t blame the way WvW is designed, move to another game if you don’t like GW2 implementation.

Troma.3250:

Please Frenk, check https://dviw3bl0enbyw.cloudfront.net/uploads/forum_attachment/file/51370/stats.png and https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/wuvwuv/Vizunah-Desolation-Seafarer-2-03-T1-EU/page/16#post1612313 before talking about things you do not know.

I don’t know if you guy realize what we have to face with our diminushed forces, you have now a server mixed with a lot of good guilds with a lot of migrations. Please, have at least the respect to not taunt us after all the work you did to rebuild and come back. I don’t remember of any taunt of us when SFR got down on ladder too

Troma don’t you know that we go to T2 when Arena told there is going to be a reset, and all of the big SFR WWW guilds decided to stop fighting because of the rematch (personally I didn’t subscribe this)?
Just check the points on that week, ridiculous low
I like to fight VZ, you server make us grow more and more, we must have numbers and be organized to beat you, nothing like in T2.
I don’t see you fall unless, Deso decide to put you guys down, at the present moment you can always be at least 2nd, or fighting for the 1st place.
Last Sunday was epic in EB, from dominating, to be dominated (that blue dot really maters), to dominate again. Fantastic fights in open field (the one we add against VZ in the dredge tunnel was something to remember, no one put any kind of siege, 50v50, several rounds, amazing).

Mighty Ice Arrow
“I Love GW1 and GW2 from the start”
Lev 80 – Ranger –Guild [PT] [Os Lusitanos]
Seafarer’s Rest

So I was in EB last night, passing through SM and viewing some players hitting a naked dead Viz mesmer. WTK?
Turns out a perma (as in perma) stealth thief was trolling them, rezzing the mesmer all the time (for hours already apparently).

Challenge accepted!
Dropped some bombs, turrets and siege buildsites and finally freed our people from anti trolling duty.
Cheers to the brilliant knockback from one of our players, to knock the thief out of inner SM over the wall.
Case closed.

Sadly, a big number Vizbus took back SM the legit way 15 minutes after we killed the thief and the mesmer released. But it was a good push on their behalf, so kudos to the legit attack and win.

Enjoy permastealth as long as you can, trollthieves.
Next patch will hit you hard.

Offski.4897:

Luffy.9365:

Yes , you can speak for both of us , but focusing on VZ doesnt mean that we dont fight Deso ppl. We will fight them even they outnumber us 2 to 1(iron), because we are playing WvW for the hard fights and not only for the easy badges(also to have a nice badge-break ,none hurts). To be honest , we are looking for guilds like GH or Votf while we are raiding and we will engage into the battle no matter the numbers ,but as for sieging ,we mainly focus VZ and then Deso. We would love to have a nice 3 way war with an other server like Deso.

There is only one blob at the moment and that is the Sfr server as a whole. Bandwagon server with multiple guilds who have joined in the last 3 weeks. Amazing how loud and vocal you guys are about your amazing accomplishments. Btw Vcy if you are getting fed up with the queue’s we rarely have any on Deso…..

We only faced you guys a few short weeks ago, we have not grown in that time so why are we now suddenly a so called blob? Maybe you should stop following the propaganda of certain guilds.

If you can beat them join them, works the other way!

Let Vcy where they are. Welcome to SFR IRON !!!

Mighty Ice Arrow
“I Love GW1 and GW2 from the start”
Lev 80 – Ranger –Guild [PT] [Os Lusitanos]
Seafarer’s Rest

Yrvald.8971:

Sird.4536:

Shifty.3412:

playandchill.3908:

Shifty.3412:

playandchill.3908:

Shifty.3412:

playandchill.3908:

Troma.3250:

If you read what i wrote, you will see that we lost a lot of commanders because of burnout/tired/fed up/wait for march patch. So i asked a GC (Elysea) to made this because we when to learn beginners commanders how to do. Is it a reason to laugh?

Oh yeah sry but made my day. The way you command to others how to play and whom to play. So arrogant and funny at the same time.

Now “Commander Academy” like there is something difficult leading 40 pugs trought a camp and skill capping treb shot.

“Our commanders suck, let’s find better, WE NEED YOU”

What’s next ? L2P ACADEMY ?

Ooh what a great idea! And while they’re doing that you could set up the bandwagon academy since you’re great at that right?

If i wanna be on the best server (medals bullkitten) i wouldn’t have left Viz 3 Month Ago.

Some bandwagon just because they dont have fun playing your pve/RP bullcrap.

:)

Interesting, I’m not on VS though, try again kiddo!

I dont even know who you are tbh.

You from IRON server? Just ignore second statements then and ask votf to create your academy.

I didn’t realise IRON had its own server, but no I’m not, don’t see how VoTF are a bandwagon guild either, they joined Deso when we were 2nd and about to drop to third place, you however joined SFR after the mass influx of guilds and players and shot up to tier 1, you are singlehandedly the definition of a bandwagoner

SFR would have got to T1 regardless of the new guilds. They did not help us get to it. They have helped us stay in the tier and compete.

http://mos.millenium.org/servers/view/9/#history

You were loosing points each week until RGBOONSINECL transfered , so no T1 without them

The results when we are in T2, the last time

Week 8 SFR win
Week 7 SFR win
Week 6 SFR win
Week 5 SFR win

I’m sure you have a page for you current matchup, it’s better to stay there until you … ascend.

Mighty Ice Arrow
“I Love GW1 and GW2 from the start”
Lev 80 – Ranger –Guild [PT] [Os Lusitanos]
Seafarer’s Rest

Score update, 17:40 p.m.

Behold my pro paint skillz.

SFR always was a strong server – with BOON, RG, ECL and sIN we are able to be number one. That’s the way it is. Try to wait for better times (and improve player scills!).

(Btw we had to beat piken and sometimes RG so that RG and all the other guilds were interested in our server! They not come to us because of we were smart and handsome …)

Zepolak.2095:

Maybe the SFR propaganda on claiming others do the exact thing SFR is doing should stop.

Massive forum warrioring by SFR on T1 matchup thread started even before SFR was in T1.

And massive zerging come from that server as well, bringing nasty game in T1, while posts from the previous T1 matchups will show people we were starting to have balanced games, with WvWvW for those enjoying it and GvG for the others.

Maybe stopping the denial and lies would be a great start.

That’s it Sir, I well met your Zerg anywhere you want at EB, I will be alone with my bow/arrows and traps (I will hide my black widow).

Mighty Ice Arrow
“I Love GW1 and GW2 from the start”
Lev 80 – Ranger –Guild [PT] [Os Lusitanos]
Seafarer’s Rest

We win because we got Assyl. I hope his love for Daisy doesn´t make him get of the trail tho.

I understand Desolation’s position on neutrality and trying to prove themselves as nobody’s lapdog, but forum posts from IRON members mostly just prove the opposite. What you are doing now is not neutrality and pride, it is just spite for SFR for weird reasons :
1) SFR suggested ganking up on VS to take them out T1. What’s the problem? You refused, game moves on. Why are you so insulted about it and take it personally? If one of SFR commanders keeps insisting on it bash him don’t start spiting all over every SFR and calling them names and telling them “omg l2p”. That’s just low.
2) Bandwagon server – again, what is the problem? You were in the same position some time ago, you took advantage of it, your new guilds left, you rebuilt and moved on. Why the sudden hate on SFR? It’s not like SFR came from T8 suddenly. For the past 3-4 months it has been in T1-T2 and a force to be reckoned with, and it dropped to T2 out of it’s own decision nothing more. How about respecting that?

I think everybody recognizes Deso as a powerful server with skilled players and good guilds, there is no need for the tension. Some SFR forum posters are not that nice, but it’s usually isolated cases and rotten apples can be found on all servers.

Between SFR and VS there is another level of animosity and in my opinion both sides have contributed to this general tension with equal guilt. SFR calling names on VS and criticizing their tactics, VS calling SFR the worst server they ever fought and that it should never be put alongside Blacktide, Deso, FSP and other T1 contenders. It will probably never go away either and both servers hold equal blame.

With respect towards my opponents,
A random SFR pugger.

GG SFR for today.

Shay.7534:

…Between SFR and VS there is another level of animosity and in my opinion both sides have contributed to this general tension with equal guilt. SFR calling names on VS and criticizing their tactics, VS calling SFR the worst server they ever fought and that it should never be put alongside Blacktide, Deso, FSP and other T1 contenders. It will probably never go away either and both servers hold equal blame…

I never noticed any specific animosity against SFR from VZ, just a serious opponent to keep an eye on. Since a couple of weeks I read the SFR flood of insults against VZ, and we do not appreciate that.