Guild Wars 2

Hi,

Normally I have the option ‘Show All Player Names’ un-ticked to prevent on-screen clutter. However, party member’s names normally still show in blue text.

Since today’s patch though, party member’s names are hidden unless you select the party member now – but the health bar is still visible. I don’t mind if it went back to how it was before, or if party members were included in hidden names – but it looks weird showing a health bar without a name above it!

I’ve attached a picture.

Before, even if you unchecked “Show All Player Names” it would show the nameplate of the char at the direction your cam is facing (like if it was focused) even if you haven’t it selected. What it seems now is the same behavior happens but only showing health bar.

Before the latest patch, the game used to display the names of your party/squad even if you had the option “display all player names” unchecked. Now, it only displays them if it’s checked.

Yes, They need to fix this

I filed a bug report.

Just an update, I have tested it and I don’t get this issue. For me it shows normally, with a full nameplate when a player is focused or selected. I never got a health-bar-only case.

That sounds like a bit of inconsistency here. If “Show All Players Name” is unchecked it shouldn’t, by definition, show any names not even those in your party. Maybe the previous behavior was wrong and now it got fixed? Actually, I never realized if it would always show party member’s name despite that option being checked or not, then I can’t say much.

shadow.6174:

That sounds like a bit of inconsistency here. If “Show All Players Name” is unchecked it shouldn’t, by definition, show any names not even those in your party. Maybe the previous behavior was wrong and now it got fixed? Actually, I never realized if it would always show party member’s name despite that option being checked or not, then I can’t say much.

There’s a gigantic difference between “DO NOT show ALL player names” (it’s current functionality) and “do not show all player names EXCEPT those in my part and/or raid.” At worst, they broke the functionality by making the option do exactly what it implies.

As an additional bit of proof this is a break rather than a fix is the fact that when in a squad, you still see their hp bar.

Aidan Savage.2078:

shadow.6174:

That sounds like a bit of inconsistency here. If "Show All Players Name" is unchecked it shouldn’t, by definition, show any names not even those in your party. Maybe the previous behavior was wrong and now it got fixed? Actually, I never realized if it would always show party member’s name despite that option being checked or not, then I can’t say much.

There’s a gigantic difference between "DO NOT show ALL player names" (it’s current functionality) and "do not show all player names EXCEPT those in my part and/or raid." At worst, they broke the functionality by making the option do exactly what it implies.

Yup I see. If so then it’s a classic example where users got used to a "bug"/"misimplementation" as if it was a "feature" and then when it gets "fixed" it’s seen as a "bug". *shrugs* Well, without an official response we can only speculate if it was intended or not.

Yep Hoping everyone will bug report so we can get a Red Post in here

Bump for this bug report. Though I already filed a bug report yesterday ingame, I hope this thread will get some attention.
No matter if this change fixed an unintentional bug or invented a new one, there needs to be the possibility to permanently have someones partymembers names on screen while having all others not showing up.

Thanks Nash
I wish a Dev. would post they are working on it.

More People need to Bug report it

To the Front, Still broken 03/14

DragonSquid.5873:

To the Front, Still broken 03/14

I was kinda hoping the chat bubbles fix would be linked in with this and make this fixed too, but yeah, still broken.

Still broken 03/16

Nothing changed 03/21

Still Not Fixed

to the Top, they need to look at this

Still Broken, Still no Dev Reply

bump still broken, still not on the known issues tracker (which got his last update a week ago…).

C’mon, this is a multiplayer game and this issue makes playing with others so kittening inconvinient

Known issues tracker got updated yesterday, still no sign of awareness for this issue.
So up with this and keep hoping some official see this and take care of (hope dies last…)

An issue not being in that known issues tracker doesn’t mean that it’s not acknowledged. It only list issues they are currently working on, since investigating to really testing a fix. Also, not all issues will appear there, it’s merely a manually-curated list. The maintainer of that list explained it better here: https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/support/bugs/Announcing-the-Known-Issue-Tracker/6021973.

shadow.6174:

An issue not being in that known issues tracker doesn’t mean that it’s not acknowledged. It only list issues they are currently working on, since investigating to really testing a fix. Also, not all issues will appear there, it’s merely a manually-curated list. The maintainer of that list explained it better here: https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/support/bugs/Announcing-the-Known-Issue-Tracker/6021973.

Well, thanks for that link, but after reading that, bumping this topic regularly seems even more important:

The list is missing a lot of things. Inclusion on the list is not based solely on the number of reports – to be honest it’s mostly a matter of it coming on my radar. There are several ways that can happen:

In-game reports
Customer Support tickets
Posts in the official bug forums (I try to keep up on these but sometimes miss things)
Reddit posts (same as the forums)
Me painstakingly combing through our bug database

As it says at the top the tracker, two types of bugs are also intentionally not included:

- Very minor stuff (like typos, small display issues, or super-edge-case stuff that will likely never be seen by anyone)
– Anything that could be exploited

So since it’s definetly nothing that can be exploited and got reported several times, I guess it didn’t come to their attention yet or they consider it a minor issue (which imho it is not)

Still not fixed 04/01

Thank You Gaile

Gaile Gray.6029:

I will ask about this one. Sorry we didn’t see it earlier.

Can you introduce an UI option to toggle group nameplates on and off? I — for instance — do not like to see all the nameplates in big WvW squads. I only want so see enemy nameplates. It keeps the fights clearly.

No, don’t change this! This is excactly how i want it! At least make it optional to keep it the way it is now. Espacially while in a squad where all the blue names becomes annoying clutter, wich was the main reason for me NOT to join squads until now.

Frostfang.5109:

No, don’t change this! This is excactly how i want it! At least make it optional to keep it the way it is now. Espacially while in a squad where all the blue names becomes annoying clutter, wich was the main reason for me NOT to join squads until now.

You’re aware that squads are a different thing? I mean, I’m totally with you on this issue itself, I hate joining squads myself for this very reason, but that’s a topic for a squad UI revamp (there were some really great suggestions in the WvW subforum, hope they were seen by officials). And the reply above you pointed to this already:

Gaile Gray.6029:

Gaile Gray.6029:

I will ask about this one. Sorry we didn’t see it earlier.

Can you introduce an UI option to toggle group nameplates on and off? I — for instance — do not like to see all the nameplates in big WvW squads. I only want so see enemy nameplates. It keeps the fights clearly.

Gaile Gray.6029:

I will ask about this one. Sorry we didn’t see it earlier.

Any Update?

DragonSquid.5873:

Gaile Gray.6029:

I will ask about this one. Sorry we didn’t see it earlier.

Any Update?

It’s not on the Bug Tracker yet

Any news Gaile?

Bump to the front

Bump to the Front

DragonSquid.5873:

Bump to the Front

Sounds like you want this fixing even more than I do!

Fingers crossed for the patch coming in the next few hours!

Seems to be fixed, but didn’t make the patch notes, unless I’ve skipped passed it somehow!

Anyway, thanks for fixing this!

Either the last hot-fix broke it again or I don’t know, but it’s still broken for me.
Attached 2 pics, the first one showing me in party with my wife in TD (see red squares), but her nameplate doesn’t show up. On the second, I manually hovered my cursor over her avatar and her nameplate shows up.
Before the issue appeared (see starting post), same settings always led to the 2nd pic result, no matter where my cursor was.

Yep Broken, i never saw it fixed

Nash.2681:

Either the last hot-fix broke it again or I don’t know, but it’s still broken for me.
Attached 2 pics, the first one showing me in party with my wife in TD (see red squares), but her nameplate doesn’t show up. On the second, I manually hovered my cursor over her avatar and her nameplate shows up.
Before the issue appeared (see starting post), same settings always led to the 2nd pic result, no matter where my cursor was.

Well, as I said in a post early in this thread, what happens in your 1st pic seems to be like it was supposed to be before all, even though that how it wasn’t before. For consistency’s sake unchecking “Show All Players Name” should have hidden it, no matter if in party or not. However, that wasn’t the former behavior and possibly it was a “bug”, but as it had been there for ages people just got used to it as “feature”. Possibly the current stage is how it “should have been” and then it was “fixed”. I’m just guessing here, I don’t know if it was the actual reason though. The previous state with only a health bar might have been a “failed” attempt to “fix” the “bug”.

shadow.6174:

Nash.2681:

Either the last hot-fix broke it again or I don’t know, but it’s still broken for me.
Attached 2 pics, the first one showing me in party with my wife in TD (see red squares), but her nameplate doesn’t show up. On the second, I manually hovered my cursor over her avatar and her nameplate shows up.
Before the issue appeared (see starting post), same settings always led to the 2nd pic result, no matter where my cursor was.

Well, as I said in a post early in this thread, what happens in your 1st pic seems to be like it was supposed to be before all, even though that how it wasn’t before. For consistency’s sake unchecking “Show All Players Name” should have hidden it, no matter if in party or not. However, that wasn’t the former behavior and possibly it was a “bug”, but as it had been there for ages people just got used to it as “feature”. Possibly the current stage is how it “should have been” and then it was “fixed”. I’m just guessing here, I don’t know if it was the actual reason though. The previous state with only a health bar might have been a “failed” attempt to “fix” the “bug”.

Yepp, you did. And I already replied to that (hate to quote myself but…)

Bump for this bug report. Though I already filed a bug report yesterday ingame, I hope this thread will get some attention.
No matter if this change fixed an unintentional bug or invented a new one, there needs to be the possibility to permanently have someones partymembers names on screen while having all others not showing up.

And my opinion remains the same. If it doesn’t bother you, good for you, but it does bother others. And as long as there’s no official statement that the former far more convenient behaviour was an unintended bug I expect the newer, totally inconvenient behaviour, being the bug that needs to be fixed.

Nash.2681:

Nash.2681:

Bump for this bug report. Though I already filed a bug report yesterday ingame, I hope this thread will get some attention.
No matter if this change fixed an unintentional bug or invented a new one, there needs to be the possibility to permanently have someones partymembers names on screen while having all others not showing up.

And my opinion remains the same. If it doesn’t bother you, good for you, but it does bother others. And as long as there’s no official statement that the former far more convenient behaviour was an unintended bug I expect the newer, totally inconvenient behaviour, being the bug that needs to be fixed.

Yup, I don’t disagree with you, I was just trying to point out a possible explanation of why this has happened. And even though I don’t mind about it I’m also all up for having options and stuff. And as you even said, either it was an unintended “bug” that was seen as “feature” and now “fixed” or not, only an official response could tell, otherwise it’s nothing but guessing.

bump to the Front

Gaile Gray.6029:

I will ask about this one. Sorry we didn’t see it earlier.

Any Updates on this Gaile?

Nash.2681:

Either the last hot-fix broke it again or I don’t know, but it’s still broken for me.
Attached 2 pics, the first one showing me in party with my wife in TD (see red squares), but her nameplate doesn’t show up. On the second, I manually hovered my cursor over her avatar and her nameplate shows up.
Before the issue appeared (see starting post), same settings always led to the 2nd pic result, no matter where my cursor was.

Yes, it seems what I missed was, although my original report was on Health Bars without names was fixed, how they’ve fix it was by rather than reverting back to the old way of Party Member Names always showing regardless of how you have ‘Show All Player Names’ option ticked), it now hides the name if you have ‘Show All Player Names’ unticked.

Well, now I see another problem that ppl have reported somewhere. When having it to Show All Player Names I see their nameplate, but the health bar is only visible if I hover them :S

No update since April 1st

sigh

shadow.6174:

Well, now I see another problem that ppl have reported somewhere. When having it to Show All Player Names I see their nameplate, but the health bar is only visible if I hover them :S

Yep, it has been reported here on the forum, here on reddit, also here on reddit and in various other reddit threads.

Being able to see all health bars is very important in both Raids and WvW. Druids is the most affected specialization (ground targeted heals). Squad UI doesn’t really help.

Still no news from ANet.

bump We can haz some update on this plx?

This may be of some interest:

Bug Fix:

Fixed a bug that prevented party-member and squad-member health bars from displaying in PvP, WvW, and raids.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/info/updates/Game-Update-Notes-April-19-2016/first#post6122828