Guild Wars 2

kyro.8162:

I wonder how the matchup thread will look next week. (BG, Mag, and SoR)

Will be fun to watch

kyro.8162:

I wonder how the matchup thread will look next week. (BG, Mag, and SoR)

I’m predicting 40+ pages.

kyro.8162:

I wonder how the matchup thread will look next week. (BG, Mag, and SoR)

For best results, SoR needs to be behind by a big margin after the weekend is up. If Mag is seeing this, you know what to do

DKNS.2135:

kyro.8162:

I wonder how the matchup thread will look next week. (BG, Mag, and SoR)

For best results, SoR needs to be behind by a big margin after the weekend is up. If Mag is seeing this, you know what to do

Why do you need Mag to help you? Can’t beat SoR on your own? If I was Mag and reading the BG stuff here I know what I would do….

juicifruitz.6251:

Just because you weren’t privy to something doesn’t mean it did or didn’t happen.

At the end of the day your picking on one tiny wincy aspect of my post, and completely ignoring that the whole entire reason it was brought back up again was, because members of your current server, and newer members of SoS have said SOR was the sole reason SOS imploded, at that time, which I was stating is utterly incorrect, and at the same time, also point to the fact that if the SoS people really wanted to hate a server they should perhaps look at BG since your, now current, server took the lions share of the SOS WvW guilds compared to SOR, JQ, TC and FA.

So please don’t be getting your knickers in a knot because of the small aspect of my post. but by all means please try to point out where in my reasoning that it, if there be any server that, should SoS hate a server more, when presented with the facts, it should actually be BG.

It looks like you still ignore half of my first post saying the same thing you’re complaining that I’ve ignored. Go read it again, JQ was a very large reason for all of those transfers.

Also “not privy” is hilarious. I’ve specifically been talking about AoI, I have not once mentioned anything regarding MERC, for example, being “bought.” Which btw, was the entire reason this buying guilds thing ever came about. When MERC posted that BG helped them pay transfer costs for some of their members. This isn’t even close to a secret. However you’ve got some twisted revisionist history, where most of the guilds were bought and only you know which ones.

Protip: You have no idea what you’re talking about.

kyro.8162:

I wonder how the matchup thread will look next week. (BG, Mag, and SoR)

I can’t wait till BG and Maguuma 2v1 SoR, the QQ will be epic. Swaggate + Magswag = BFFs

Seigfried.5938:

kyro.8162:

I wonder how the matchup thread will look next week. (BG, Mag, and SoR)

I’m predicting 40+ pages.

Threads probably going to be locked by the end of the weekend

Kreen.3925:

DKNS.2135:

kyro.8162:

I wonder how the matchup thread will look next week. (BG, Mag, and SoR)

For best results, SoR needs to be behind by a big margin after the weekend is up. If Mag is seeing this, you know what to do

Why do you need Mag to help you? Can’t beat SoR on your own? If I was Mag and reading the BG stuff here I know what I would do….

Why did you need SBI to beat SoS? Couldn’t beat SoS on your own?

Kreen.3925:

DKNS.2135:

kyro.8162:

I wonder how the matchup thread will look next week. (BG, Mag, and SoR)

For best results, SoR needs to be behind by a big margin after the weekend is up. If Mag is seeing this, you know what to do

Why do you need Mag to help you? Can’t beat SoR on your own? If I was Mag and reading the BG stuff here I know what I would do….

I believe the intention is for Mag to beat SoR.

Well I for one will be glad to see Maguuma up here. They actually have decent players and good roamers. So all of the roamers on BG will have some good fights.

kanderous.7512:

Really, BG. We’re painting your BL green and you DDOS our TS.

Good work.

this has been going on for months. clkitten.

Ya’ll need a better TS provider.

SonofNoob.3102:

Ya’ll need a better TS provider.

That’s where oPP can hook you up. We’ve got a plan for every budget. We’ve got the Totallynotwiretapping tier, where you’re guaranteed safe and secure voice communication 24/7. We’ve got the Nospiesinhere tier, where we have a oPP oper- member personally monitor the safety of your server. At the lowest we’ve got Reallygoodfora2v1 tier, where you share your teamspeak with another server which may or may not start with B. With this tier you may have reduced functionality within the client.

DKNS.2135:

This match-up has been like Karmic Justice to SoR. Even if somehow BG doesn’t win the league, we will still remember it for bringing so many SoR players to tears in the match-ups that entailed.

Interesting you say this…

Are doubts creeping in that you won’t win for some reason?

Also you nailed it right on the head, one of the first “at least” posts that will be stated if BG doesn’t win. You guys really do think ahead on everything lol.

SonofNoob.3102:

Ya’ll need a better TS provider.

SoR’s service provider must be so happy with them. Everytime their service fails from the provider’s end, they just blame BG for it.

DKNS.2135:

SonofNoob.3102:

Ya’ll need a better TS provider.

SoR’s service provider must be so happy with them. Everytime their service fails from the provider’s end, they just blame BG for it.

JQs TS is run by the same guy, on the same network lol. So on Friday nights when both of their TS servers are flooded, they all get congested and unstable. They then run immediately here and and blame BG for it lol.

Sunday’s night and it is already at page 12. Impressive.
All the chest thumping, all the tears, all the stacking and the I-am-poor-you-are-rich-the-world-is-unfair comments.

To all the BG who get arrogant and chest thumping, how do you see SOR giving up? I see they still come out with full map zerg across all borderlands. You remember the time SOR wped BGBL and chest thumping? And do you see what happened to them now? It could be BG next time when we lose a match.

To the sor who weep tears of angers, you should have seen that coming when you wped bgbl and chest thumping the whole week long.

Stacking? Does one guild fill up an empty timeslot make a server stacked? If IRON does not make SOR stacked, why ZDs does? Afterall ZDs primetime is only two hours into IRON primetime like most of the IRON members reminded us over and over again. Pretty fair right?

Kiff.8157:

To all the BG who get arrogant and chest thumping, how do you see SOR giving up?

I saw it when SoS at any point ticked higher than SoR. Today is different, and hopefully the rest of the week is the same.

Well SoR NA just decide to play tonight but before they went training ….

UnrepentantProcrastinator.7420:

Kiff.8157:

To all the BG who get arrogant and chest thumping, how do you see SOR giving up?

I saw it when SoS at any point ticked higher than SoR. Today is different, and hopefully the rest of the week is the same.

It is amusing to see the reaction caused by a server outside the “top three” actually threatening the status quo.

Actinotus.6410:

UnrepentantProcrastinator.7420:

Kiff.8157:

To all the BG who get arrogant and chest thumping, how do you see SOR giving up?

I saw it when SoS at any point ticked higher than SoR. Today is different, and hopefully the rest of the week is the same.

It is amusing to see the reaction caused by a server outside the “top three” actually threatening the status quo.

Maybe it’s SoR’s turn to implode and bandwagon to SoS.

UnrepentantProcrastinator.7420:

Kiff.8157:

To all the BG who get arrogant and chest thumping, how do you see SOR giving up?

I saw it when SoS at any point ticked higher than SoR. Today is different, and hopefully the rest of the week is the same.

I was online at that time and that was OCX timezone. We had better morale and ppt and it means the friggin pvers will pop in whenever there is a slot. Of course I don’t understand why HIRE did not come to rescue but only showed up during SEA timezone but nevermind, they did show up in the end. Did they give up? No. They had full map zerg being wiped numerous time up to a point that we could only walk our way to their spawn point and wait for them. When someone still goes in wvw, it doesn’t mean giving up.

Hi. I am the commander whom last night went into SoR BL and trebbed down 3 out of 4 of SoR trebs from Cragtop hitting garrison.

Regarding all these accusations thrown around about BG buying SoS, the lack of gold and candy in my wallet begs to differ.

I could remember clearly the week before leagues when my small Ops run turned into a kitten storm when SoR allied with SBI cutting off our reinforcements with a queued map blob.

So I would like to point out that there is no one to blame except for the commanders who struck a deal with SBI in the first place.

JQ and SoR ts are run by the same dude, but not on the same server. For the record. JQ’s ts has been DDOS’d daily for about the last 6 weeks, usually during important pushes.

This thread is very..entertaining.

celeron.3469:

juicifruitz.6251:

Just because you weren’t privy to something doesn’t mean it did or didn’t happen.

At the end of the day your picking on one tiny wincy aspect of my post, and completely ignoring that the whole entire reason it was brought back up again was, because members of your current server, and newer members of SoS have said SOR was the sole reason SOS imploded, at that time, which I was stating is utterly incorrect, and at the same time, also point to the fact that if the SoS people really wanted to hate a server they should perhaps look at BG since your, now current, server took the lions share of the SOS WvW guilds compared to SOR, JQ, TC and FA.

So please don’t be getting your knickers in a knot because of the small aspect of my post. but by all means please try to point out where in my reasoning that it, if there be any server that, should SoS hate a server more, when presented with the facts, it should actually be BG.

It looks like you still ignore half of my first post saying the same thing you’re complaining that I’ve ignored. Go read it again, JQ was a very large reason for all of those transfers.

Also “not privy” is hilarious. I’ve specifically been talking about AoI, I have not once mentioned anything regarding MERC, for example, being “bought.” Which btw, was the entire reason this buying guilds thing ever came about. When MERC posted that BG helped them pay transfer costs for some of their members. This isn’t even close to a secret. However you’ve got some twisted revisionist history, where most of the guilds were bought and only you know which ones.

Protip: You have no idea what you’re talking about.

Protip: your still ignoring the fact the BG took, stole, bought, borrowed, received, how ever you want to word it the largest amount of guilds causing SoS to implode more than any other server, thus what my post was actually about. But you being so pro and all would know that and wouldn’t go on for 3/4 posts about the wording I used… Oh wait ….

celeron.3469:

SonofNoob.3102:

Ya’ll need a better TS provider.

That’s where oPP can hook you up. We’ve got a plan for every budget. We’ve got the Totallynotwiretapping tier, where you’re guaranteed safe and secure voice communication 24/7. We’ve got the Nospiesinhere tier, where we have a oPP oper- member personally monitor the safety of your server. At the lowest we’ve got Reallygoodfora2v1 tier, where you share your teamspeak with another server which may or may not start with B. With this tier you may have reduced functionality within the client.

The Orange Fox will soon be free, I repeat The Orange Fox will soon be free.

Wiretaps err comms management in place have yielded valuable intel. Operatives have Indo cornered, we are close to finding TW’s super secret Fort. Iron’s trying to rebuild theirs but DIE burnt it back down earlier in a fit of rage.

Operative Prophet is in place of the next target guild and already yielding valuable information.

This message will self destruct in 13.75 seconds.

Kiff.8157:

UnrepentantProcrastinator.7420:

Kiff.8157:

To all the BG who get arrogant and chest thumping, how do you see SOR giving up?

I saw it when SoS at any point ticked higher than SoR. Today is different, and hopefully the rest of the week is the same.

I was online at that time and that was OCX timezone. We had better morale and ppt and it means the friggin pvers will pop in whenever there is a slot. Of course I don’t understand why HIRE did not come to rescue but only showed up during SEA timezone but nevermind, they did show up in the end. Did they give up? No. They had full map zerg being wiped numerous time up to a point that we could only walk our way to their spawn point and wait for them. When someone still goes in wvw, it doesn’t mean giving up.

Actually SoR has ticked lower than SoS at certain points of NA prime, OCX and SEA this match up. That’s why everyone has been wondering if they gave up.

kraftie.4765:

This thread is very..entertaining.

That’s because you only do PvE… snoreee

Xenesis.6389:

There’s been a problem brewing on sor for some time, it just hadn’t reared it’s ugly head before the season started but it’s something I noticed as the weeks went by, a certain attitude from sor guilds and and sor commanders. Last week “for the fights” mantra I kept hearing really made me disappointed in sor as well. Look, every player and guild has the right to play the game however they want, I’ve been a part of guilds like that, but there is a time and place for these things.

We all have had an entire year to go around to just “for the fights!” and not worry about the scoreboard, the moment we started the season that should have been put aside until certain things happened. When we’re far ahead or behind in score with no chance of the score flipping towards the end of the week, hey forget the siege and go for the fights, no one would have a problem with that.

The first three days of a match up when we’re all fighting to take the lead put your efforts before yourselves and do something for your server, get the points from ppt or grab the orb buff and get to stomp. If you can’t find it in yourself to help your server win a match up in a season then please get off the top 3 servers where everyone went to get the top competition. You can find fights just as well fighting on the other side and arrange your gvg’s as well if that’s your thing.

It’s sad that sor is not motivated by the season, servers like maguuma and sos fought and stayed in gold league while others may have tanked, even though they have no chance to compete in it. I’m glad they’re making a wvw overflow map, a lot of guilds are going to fit right in there, no points for the server, plenty for yourselves, and nothing but fights.

Sor is self destructing because of the guilds, some of them are unwilling to play with others, they pull good players from the server into their guild and then play among themselves. I’ve heard commanders sound disgusted they have too many pugs with them, some will do things to shake them off, some commanders are unwilling to work with pugs at all, which I think is very important to maintaining numbers on your side.

If you are not out there leading whether we’re winning or losing with the pugs they will give up wandering around aimlessly getting slaughtered. But I suppose that’s what you want right? well 12:30pm on a saturday outmanned on a bl, the pugs have already given up and the ap hunters are gone so who’s left to fill the space?

Now you guilds have what you wanted, an open queue and a ton of bg to fight, but the price? There is hurt pride and broken morale all in the name of just looking for fights to fill your bags up, and it’s only week 3 of 7 where we were expected to compete for first, instead what’s left of the season is talk of waiting to 2v1 with jq on bg on week 7, so I guess we should just get the karma train running for 4 weeks huh.

I know commanding the pug zerg can be trying on the nerves, but if you want better players you need to train and lead them, all I ever hear is blame being set on them for anything that goes wrong. Even the week before the season I mentioned in chat that commanders should be out and leading, and yet I got back the “it’s training week for guilds” that attitude was bound to bite us back.

Then I constantly hear well bg has two times our numbers, of course they do they use their pugs, you fight with your minimum numbers and claim to have better skill but unless the lag and skill lag goes away completely, or you have more skillful players than the other side then it means nothing, numbers will crush you and be available at more places than you can be at once. Your pugs will also not get better if you keep throwing them to the wolves, ridicule them, and blame them for everything.

As an SBI player, I can actually relate. Our first match, against FA, we had this problem. I actually heard a commander on TS talking as he tagged down because he didn’t want any pugs to follow him. So, we had almost all of FAs BL at that time. Within 10 minutes of him tagging down, we had only 1 tower.

Communication was horrible that first week, and there was plenty of “for the fights” crap that people who are losing spew. The reality is, the season is a competition, and you are supposed to fight to win.

And, people really forget that they were new to WvW at one point, or even that they were pugs at one point. Commanders are more important for pugs than they are for guild groups. Commanders need to organize and COMMAND your forces. If you don’t understand that (and the fact that the pugs are on your server, which means they are part of your force), then you need to step down as being a commander.

juicifruitz.6251:

celeron.3469:

juicifruitz.6251:

Just because you weren’t privy to something doesn’t mean it did or didn’t happen.

At the end of the day your picking on one tiny wincy aspect of my post, and completely ignoring that the whole entire reason it was brought back up again was, because members of your current server, and newer members of SoS have said SOR was the sole reason SOS imploded, at that time, which I was stating is utterly incorrect, and at the same time, also point to the fact that if the SoS people really wanted to hate a server they should perhaps look at BG since your, now current, server took the lions share of the SOS WvW guilds compared to SOR, JQ, TC and FA.

So please don’t be getting your knickers in a knot because of the small aspect of my post. but by all means please try to point out where in my reasoning that it, if there be any server that, should SoS hate a server more, when presented with the facts, it should actually be BG.

It looks like you still ignore half of my first post saying the same thing you’re complaining that I’ve ignored. Go read it again, JQ was a very large reason for all of those transfers.

Also “not privy” is hilarious. I’ve specifically been talking about AoI, I have not once mentioned anything regarding MERC, for example, being “bought.” Which btw, was the entire reason this buying guilds thing ever came about. When MERC posted that BG helped them pay transfer costs for some of their members. This isn’t even close to a secret. However you’ve got some twisted revisionist history, where most of the guilds were bought and only you know which ones.

Protip: You have no idea what you’re talking about.

Protip: your still ignoring the fact the BG took, stole, bought, borrowed, received, how ever you want to word it the largest amount of guilds causing SoS to implode more than any other server, thus what my post was actually about. But you being so pro and all would know that and wouldn’t go on for 3/4 posts about the wording I used… Oh wait ….

“Implode” is such an emotive word. This all happened 10 months ago. Post from Tarkus above pretty much sums up what happened. Lots of other servers experienced similar to SoS to different degrees – such as HoD, ET, IoJ, SBI, DB, Kn, even BG a bit. Lots of people have moved into and some out of SoS since then. SoS is in a good place at the moment which is the main thing – much more relaxed than when we were in T1. This week is especially fun.

Actinotus.6410:

juicifruitz.6251:

celeron.3469:

juicifruitz.6251:

Just because you weren’t privy to something doesn’t mean it did or didn’t happen.

At the end of the day your picking on one tiny wincy aspect of my post, and completely ignoring that the whole entire reason it was brought back up again was, because members of your current server, and newer members of SoS have said SOR was the sole reason SOS imploded, at that time, which I was stating is utterly incorrect, and at the same time, also point to the fact that if the SoS people really wanted to hate a server they should perhaps look at BG since your, now current, server took the lions share of the SOS WvW guilds compared to SOR, JQ, TC and FA.

So please don’t be getting your knickers in a knot because of the small aspect of my post. but by all means please try to point out where in my reasoning that it, if there be any server that, should SoS hate a server more, when presented with the facts, it should actually be BG.

It looks like you still ignore half of my first post saying the same thing you’re complaining that I’ve ignored. Go read it again, JQ was a very large reason for all of those transfers.

Also “not privy” is hilarious. I’ve specifically been talking about AoI, I have not once mentioned anything regarding MERC, for example, being “bought.” Which btw, was the entire reason this buying guilds thing ever came about. When MERC posted that BG helped them pay transfer costs for some of their members. This isn’t even close to a secret. However you’ve got some twisted revisionist history, where most of the guilds were bought and only you know which ones.

Protip: You have no idea what you’re talking about.

Protip: your still ignoring the fact the BG took, stole, bought, borrowed, received, how ever you want to word it the largest amount of guilds causing SoS to implode more than any other server, thus what my post was actually about. But you being so pro and all would know that and wouldn’t go on for 3/4 posts about the wording I used… Oh wait ….

“Implode” is such an emotive word. This all happened 10 months ago. Post from Tarkus above pretty much sums up what happened. Lots of other servers experienced similar to SoS to different degrees – such as HoD, ET, IoJ, SBI, DB, Kn, even BG a bit. Lots of people have moved into and some out of SoS since then. SoS is in a good place at the moment which is the main thing – much more relaxed than when we were in T1. This week is especially fun.

I remember the IoJ falling from Tier 1 to Tier 3 claiming at us old CD crew to teach us WvW ; During the FA/IoJ/CD 7 weeks straight matches IoJ always ended last and finally dismissed merging into FA to ensure them a win doing PVD on their old server to beat CD. IoJ players were selfish and condescendant to CD server and they get what they deserved. Claiming to learn us some great WvW tactics, in fact CD bring the pain and played much better with less. That was my best memory when I was on CD the end of IoJ and their falls to T8 XD That has been best achievement we can dream about : beat the elitists that believe to be pro and has no respect to others…
About SoR, I don’t hate you I hate the mentality of few guilds members/leaders you have there and that are selfish elitists and believe to be godlike with no need of militia (that they name pugs or rallybots…). Wish your server can handle the pain in S01 and that the bad seeds will leave and let you rebuilt a real and stronger community. Just clean your ranks will help a lot for sure.

Titan.3472:

Actinotus.6410:

juicifruitz.6251:

celeron.3469:

juicifruitz.6251:

Just because you weren’t privy to something doesn’t mean it did or didn’t happen.

At the end of the day your picking on one tiny wincy aspect of my post, and completely ignoring that the whole entire reason it was brought back up again was, because members of your current server, and newer members of SoS have said SOR was the sole reason SOS imploded, at that time, which I was stating is utterly incorrect, and at the same time, also point to the fact that if the SoS people really wanted to hate a server they should perhaps look at BG since your, now current, server took the lions share of the SOS WvW guilds compared to SOR, JQ, TC and FA.

So please don’t be getting your knickers in a knot because of the small aspect of my post. but by all means please try to point out where in my reasoning that it, if there be any server that, should SoS hate a server more, when presented with the facts, it should actually be BG.

It looks like you still ignore half of my first post saying the same thing you’re complaining that I’ve ignored. Go read it again, JQ was a very large reason for all of those transfers.

Also “not privy” is hilarious. I’ve specifically been talking about AoI, I have not once mentioned anything regarding MERC, for example, being “bought.” Which btw, was the entire reason this buying guilds thing ever came about. When MERC posted that BG helped them pay transfer costs for some of their members. This isn’t even close to a secret. However you’ve got some twisted revisionist history, where most of the guilds were bought and only you know which ones.

Protip: You have no idea what you’re talking about.

Protip: your still ignoring the fact the BG took, stole, bought, borrowed, received, how ever you want to word it the largest amount of guilds causing SoS to implode more than any other server, thus what my post was actually about. But you being so pro and all would know that and wouldn’t go on for 3/4 posts about the wording I used… Oh wait ….

“Implode” is such an emotive word. This all happened 10 months ago. Post from Tarkus above pretty much sums up what happened. Lots of other servers experienced similar to SoS to different degrees – such as HoD, ET, IoJ, SBI, DB, Kn, even BG a bit. Lots of people have moved into and some out of SoS since then. SoS is in a good place at the moment which is the main thing – much more relaxed than when we were in T1. This week is especially fun.

About SoR, I don’t hate you I hate the mentality of few guilds members/leaders you have there and that are selfish elitists …..

Same could be said of BuyGate’s reputation from posters like you. Particularly one who only shows up on the forums when BuyGate is winning.

You know, you can’t get rid of pugs / militia, they are going to find their way into WvW. The smart servers use them to benefit the servers. The dumb servers, dismiss them as inferior, and lost to those smart servers.

scootshoot.6583:

Titan.3472:

Actinotus.6410:

juicifruitz.6251:

celeron.3469:

juicifruitz.6251:

Just because you weren’t privy to something doesn’t mean it did or didn’t happen.

At the end of the day your picking on one tiny wincy aspect of my post, and completely ignoring that the whole entire reason it was brought back up again was, because members of your current server, and newer members of SoS have said SOR was the sole reason SOS imploded, at that time, which I was stating is utterly incorrect, and at the same time, also point to the fact that if the SoS people really wanted to hate a server they should perhaps look at BG since your, now current, server took the lions share of the SOS WvW guilds compared to SOR, JQ, TC and FA.

So please don’t be getting your knickers in a knot because of the small aspect of my post. but by all means please try to point out where in my reasoning that it, if there be any server that, should SoS hate a server more, when presented with the facts, it should actually be BG.

It looks like you still ignore half of my first post saying the same thing you’re complaining that I’ve ignored. Go read it again, JQ was a very large reason for all of those transfers.

Also “not privy” is hilarious. I’ve specifically been talking about AoI, I have not once mentioned anything regarding MERC, for example, being “bought.” Which btw, was the entire reason this buying guilds thing ever came about. When MERC posted that BG helped them pay transfer costs for some of their members. This isn’t even close to a secret. However you’ve got some twisted revisionist history, where most of the guilds were bought and only you know which ones.

Protip: You have no idea what you’re talking about.

Protip: your still ignoring the fact the BG took, stole, bought, borrowed, received, how ever you want to word it the largest amount of guilds causing SoS to implode more than any other server, thus what my post was actually about. But you being so pro and all would know that and wouldn’t go on for 3/4 posts about the wording I used… Oh wait ….

“Implode” is such an emotive word. This all happened 10 months ago. Post from Tarkus above pretty much sums up what happened. Lots of other servers experienced similar to SoS to different degrees – such as HoD, ET, IoJ, SBI, DB, Kn, even BG a bit. Lots of people have moved into and some out of SoS since then. SoS is in a good place at the moment which is the main thing – much more relaxed than when we were in T1. This week is especially fun.

About SoR, I don’t hate you I hate the mentality of few guilds members/leaders you have there and that are selfish elitists …..

Same could be said of BuyGate’s reputation from posters like you. Particularly one who only shows up on the forums when BuyGate is winning.

You have to get rid of that statesment , I already answered I went 3weeks in spvp to get my tiger finisher (instead of rabbit that looks so lame) reaching rank 40. So 24/7 3weeks spvp I had no reason to post in WvW. But well I feel like I am repeating the same thing to Alzeimer people XD. I am back in WvW from last Monday (the day that was the end of ze weurld for SoR … like seriously wtf…)
As clue, first week of S01 BG won I havent post anything on the forum I was still in spvp…
Many SoR will be famous for Drama and propaganda I feel like being back to primary school…

Titan.3472:

As clue, first week of S01 BG won I havent post anything on the forum I was still in spvp…
Many SoR will be famous for Drama and propaganda I feel like being back to primary school…

I think I need some more clue’s before I can believe your story, do you have any more evidence to prove your defense? I’m definitely still on the fence with your story, further clue’s may clear this up for me!

Titan.3472:

scootshoot.6583:

Titan.3472:

Actinotus.6410:

juicifruitz.6251:

celeron.3469:

juicifruitz.6251:

Just because you weren’t privy to something doesn’t mean it did or didn’t happen.

At the end of the day your picking on one tiny wincy aspect of my post, and completely ignoring that the whole entire reason it was brought back up again was, because members of your current server, and newer members of SoS have said SOR was the sole reason SOS imploded, at that time, which I was stating is utterly incorrect, and at the same time, also point to the fact that if the SoS people really wanted to hate a server they should perhaps look at BG since your, now current, server took the lions share of the SOS WvW guilds compared to SOR, JQ, TC and FA.

So please don’t be getting your knickers in a knot because of the small aspect of my post. but by all means please try to point out where in my reasoning that it, if there be any server that, should SoS hate a server more, when presented with the facts, it should actually be BG.

It looks like you still ignore half of my first post saying the same thing you’re complaining that I’ve ignored. Go read it again, JQ was a very large reason for all of those transfers.

Also “not privy” is hilarious. I’ve specifically been talking about AoI, I have not once mentioned anything regarding MERC, for example, being “bought.” Which btw, was the entire reason this buying guilds thing ever came about. When MERC posted that BG helped them pay transfer costs for some of their members. This isn’t even close to a secret. However you’ve got some twisted revisionist history, where most of the guilds were bought and only you know which ones.

Protip: You have no idea what you’re talking about.

Protip: your still ignoring the fact the BG took, stole, bought, borrowed, received, how ever you want to word it the largest amount of guilds causing SoS to implode more than any other server, thus what my post was actually about. But you being so pro and all would know that and wouldn’t go on for 3/4 posts about the wording I used… Oh wait ….

“Implode” is such an emotive word. This all happened 10 months ago. Post from Tarkus above pretty much sums up what happened. Lots of other servers experienced similar to SoS to different degrees – such as HoD, ET, IoJ, SBI, DB, Kn, even BG a bit. Lots of people have moved into and some out of SoS since then. SoS is in a good place at the moment which is the main thing – much more relaxed than when we were in T1. This week is especially fun.

About SoR, I don’t hate you I hate the mentality of few guilds members/leaders you have there and that are selfish elitists …..

Same could be said of BuyGate’s reputation from posters like you. Particularly one who only shows up on the forums when BuyGate is winning.

You have to get rid of that statesment , I already answered I went 3weeks in spvp to get my tiger finisher (instead of rabbit that looks so lame) reaching rank 40. So 24/7 3weeks spvp I had no reason to post in WvW. But well I feel like I am repeating the same thing to Alzeimer people XD. I am back in WvW from last Monday (the day that was the end of ze weurld for SoR … like seriously wtf…)
As clue, first week of S01 BG won I havent post anything on the forum I was still in spvp…
Many SoR will be famous for Drama and propaganda I feel like being back to primary school…

There is really nothing to explain. Your server was struggling so you ran away for a month. Now that others have helped rebuild BG’s ranks, you decided to pop back in and ride their coat tails. It’s all good man

zhonnika.1784:

JQ’s ts has been DDOS’d daily for about the last 6 weeks, usually during important pushes.

That’s probably not a ddos attack, the same thing happens to the BG ts when SoR use to make their huge pushes. I’m not an expert on networks, but I assume the mass amount of resource usage by everyone in your zerg screws with everyone that’s also currently in your TS.

Edit: Everyones voice gets distorted/muddy, right?

scootshoot.6583:

Titan.3472:

scootshoot.6583:

Titan.3472:

Actinotus.6410:

juicifruitz.6251:

celeron.3469:

juicifruitz.6251:

Just because you weren’t privy to something doesn’t mean it did or didn’t happen.

At the end of the day your picking on one tiny wincy aspect of my post, and completely ignoring that the whole entire reason it was brought back up again was, because members of your current server, and newer members of SoS have said SOR was the sole reason SOS imploded, at that time, which I was stating is utterly incorrect, and at the same time, also point to the fact that if the SoS people really wanted to hate a server they should perhaps look at BG since your, now current, server took the lions share of the SOS WvW guilds compared to SOR, JQ, TC and FA.

So please don’t be getting your knickers in a knot because of the small aspect of my post. but by all means please try to point out where in my reasoning that it, if there be any server that, should SoS hate a server more, when presented with the facts, it should actually be BG.

It looks like you still ignore half of my first post saying the same thing you’re complaining that I’ve ignored. Go read it again, JQ was a very large reason for all of those transfers.

Also “not privy” is hilarious. I’ve specifically been talking about AoI, I have not once mentioned anything regarding MERC, for example, being “bought.” Which btw, was the entire reason this buying guilds thing ever came about. When MERC posted that BG helped them pay transfer costs for some of their members. This isn’t even close to a secret. However you’ve got some twisted revisionist history, where most of the guilds were bought and only you know which ones.

Protip: You have no idea what you’re talking about.

Protip: your still ignoring the fact the BG took, stole, bought, borrowed, received, how ever you want to word it the largest amount of guilds causing SoS to implode more than any other server, thus what my post was actually about. But you being so pro and all would know that and wouldn’t go on for 3/4 posts about the wording I used… Oh wait ….

“Implode” is such an emotive word. This all happened 10 months ago. Post from Tarkus above pretty much sums up what happened. Lots of other servers experienced similar to SoS to different degrees – such as HoD, ET, IoJ, SBI, DB, Kn, even BG a bit. Lots of people have moved into and some out of SoS since then. SoS is in a good place at the moment which is the main thing – much more relaxed than when we were in T1. This week is especially fun.

About SoR, I don’t hate you I hate the mentality of few guilds members/leaders you have there and that are selfish elitists …..

Same could be said of BuyGate’s reputation from posters like you. Particularly one who only shows up on the forums when BuyGate is winning.

You have to get rid of that statesment , I already answered I went 3weeks in spvp to get my tiger finisher (instead of rabbit that looks so lame) reaching rank 40. So 24/7 3weeks spvp I had no reason to post in WvW. But well I feel like I am repeating the same thing to Alzeimer people XD. I am back in WvW from last Monday (the day that was the end of ze weurld for SoR … like seriously wtf…)
As clue, first week of S01 BG won I havent post anything on the forum I was still in spvp…
Many SoR will be famous for Drama and propaganda I feel like being back to primary school…

There is really nothing to explain. Your server was struggling so you ran away for a month. Now that others have helped rebuild BG’s ranks, you decided to pop back in and ride their coat tails. It’s all good man

Now I can finish ennemies with a nice TIGER FINISHER ! And spvp is so tiring and boring to reach R40 that I was impatient to come back for long hours into WvW, I wish I wouldn’t have miss the 1st week victory but well I had to get that finisher ^^.
WvW is a blast fun and BG community is the best one from any server I have been part of.

Terok.7315:

zhonnika.1784:

JQ’s ts has been DDOS’d daily for about the last 6 weeks, usually during important pushes.

I’m not an expert on networks, but I assume the mass amount of resource usage by everyone in your zerg screws with everyone that’s also currently in your TS.

Edit: Everyones voice gets distorted/muddy, right?

the zerg fights and ts are not on the exact server so there is no chance zerg fights would cause that issue.

So what you are saying is that someone on blackgate is committing a criminal act (ddos is illegal fyi) and spending money ( a successful ddos on a network like team speak isn’t cheap ) so they can TAKE HILLS ? Give me a break. The excuses are endless

Stealth.8150:

Terok.7315:

zhonnika.1784:

JQ’s ts has been DDOS’d daily for about the last 6 weeks, usually during important pushes.

I’m not an expert on networks, but I assume the mass amount of resource usage by everyone in your zerg screws with everyone that’s also currently in your TS.

Edit: Everyones voice gets distorted/muddy, right?

the zerg fights and ts are not on the exact server so there is no chance zerg fights would cause that issue.

I’ll try to rephrase. The people that are both in TS and in WvW at the same time are experiencing heavy PC resource usage because of whatever zerg they happen to be engaging. This might be causing the lag on TS because everyone currently on TS has an overtaxed machine that’s struggling to keep up with the lag in WvW. As I said, I’m not positive this is the case (I could very well be wrong). But there does seem to be a correlation between engagements and TS oddities —err, I should say ‘occasionally’ there seems to be correlations.

Titan.3472:

Darkjoy.3092:

So what you are saying is that someone on blackgate is committing a criminal act (ddos is illegal fyi) and spending money ( a successful ddos on a network like team speak isn’t cheap ) so they can TAKE HILLS ? Give me a break. The excuses are endless

Transfer to SoR and receive their Tier 1 bestseller book to cry on forum 24/7:

But whose signature does it come with?

Guise, I just got disconnected from Guild Wars 2.

I’M GETTING DDOS’D!

DKNS.2135:

It was both JQ and SoR responsible. JQ after forming the mega-server went all out on us because of the bitter JQ-SoS rivalry and SoR, knowing at that time that they can not compete against JQ, decided to focus SoS for weeks.

Doubt it was servers responsible for SOS fall. It was basically 1 guild named PXX. The drama there follows and the server eventually falls. The same guild that brought it from the lower ranks to the top was also the same guild that went to opposing sides to fight their former allies. No need to blame servers. There was no achievements chasers so people weren’t really hopping into WvW hoping to get riches or rewards. There were just dedicated WvW guild back then. Now many of the WvW players are all after that golden donkey.

Terok.7315:

Stealth.8150:

Terok.7315:

zhonnika.1784:

JQ’s ts has been DDOS’d daily for about the last 6 weeks, usually during important pushes.

I’m not an expert on networks, but I assume the mass amount of resource usage by everyone in your zerg screws with everyone that’s also currently in your TS.

Edit: Everyones voice gets distorted/muddy, right?

the zerg fights and ts are not on the exact server so there is no chance zerg fights would cause that issue.

I’ll try to rephrase. The people that are both in TS and in WvW at the same time are experiencing heavy PC resource usage because of whatever zerg they happen to be engaging. This might be causing the lag on TS because everyone currently on TS has an overtaxed machine that’s struggling to keep up with the lag in WvW. As I said, I’m not positive this is the case (I could very well be wrong). But there does seem to be a correlation between engagements and TS oddities —err, I should say ‘occasionally’ there seems to be correlations.

i was just explaining :P.

Stealth.8150:

Terok.7315:

Stealth.8150:

Terok.7315:

zhonnika.1784:

JQ’s ts has been DDOS’d daily for about the last 6 weeks, usually during important pushes.

I’m not an expert on networks, but I assume the mass amount of resource usage by everyone in your zerg screws with everyone that’s also currently in your TS.

Edit: Everyones voice gets distorted/muddy, right?

the zerg fights and ts are not on the exact server so there is no chance zerg fights would cause that issue.

I’ll try to rephrase. The people that are both in TS and in WvW at the same time are experiencing heavy PC resource usage because of whatever zerg they happen to be engaging. This might be causing the lag on TS because everyone currently on TS has an overtaxed machine that’s struggling to keep up with the lag in WvW. As I said, I’m not positive this is the case (I could very well be wrong). But there does seem to be a correlation between engagements and TS oddities —err, I should say ‘occasionally’ there seems to be correlations.

i was just explaining :P.

Yep, I didn’t intend to sound like I was being short with you.

Darkjoy.3092:

So what you are saying is that someone on blackgate is committing a criminal act (ddos is illegal fyi) and spending money ( a successful ddos on a network like team speak isn’t cheap ) so they can TAKE HILLS ? Give me a break. The excuses are endless

not trying to defend SoR here, but ppl been ddosing for some gains in games for really long time now actually

take wow for example, ppll ddos there, wintrade, fake someone’s else ID to delete accounts etc.; all for title in arena; i am saldy not kidding

you have to realize that many kids play games and usually that are not very aware (nor want to be aware) that what they are doing is illegal

Kiff.8157:

Stacking? Does one guild fill up an empty timeslot make a server stacked? If IRON does not make SOR stacked, why ZDs does? Afterall ZDs primetime is only two hours into IRON primetime like most of the IRON members reminded us over and over again. Pretty fair right?

Reason why people complain about stacking is that it’s an organized WvW guild going into a timezone with literally little to no competition.

1. - BG already got HB, RK, COIN… Are all 3 guilds combined that pitiful that they are not a match for IRON and AFTL? As for HB, one of their commander or even leader wasn’t happy with move as he/she saw that it was going to ruin the competition stating that ZD should’ve went to another server with more needs in that timezone. I guess HB does have a few good players who really prefers fights and competitive nature. During reset, of course there’s going to be fights… But as the week progresses, there’s going to be less and less.
2. - BG already won the first tier 1 match. Do they really need additional guilds when all 3 servers were so close in scores? Common sense, which a lot of us don’t have would have said no need unless you did not win the match.

SleepingDragon.1596:

DKNS.2135:

It was both JQ and SoR responsible. JQ after forming the mega-server went all out on us because of the bitter JQ-SoS rivalry and SoR, knowing at that time that they can not compete against JQ, decided to focus SoS for weeks.

Doubt it was servers responsible for SOS fall. It was basically 1 guild named PXX. The drama there follows and the server eventually falls. The same guild that brought it from the lower ranks to the top was also the same guild that went to opposing sides to fight their former allies. No need to blame servers. There was no achievements chasers so people weren’t really hopping into WvW hoping to get riches or rewards. There were just dedicated WvW guild back then. Now many of the WvW players are all after that golden donkey.

If you mean PRX then nope they were only a part (including in the rise of SoS to T1 – we had a number of really good guilds join at the same time independent of PRX), although I do remember that podcast episode with Clementine http://gw2.junkiesnation.com/2013/02/19/6286/. Their “call to arms” caused a bit of resentment as i recall (although did lead to the 30K comeback win against SoR).

It really was lack of coverage in certain time zones and players feeling they needed to play overtime to compensate for this which led to burnout. Guilds like Agg and PRX (when they were playing) will just move to where they will get the best fights and so don’t have server loyalty as such.

SoS survived perfectly well and this happened months ago – and has been discussed to death before. Really not that relevant to SoS now.