Guild Wars 2

Aieo.2815:

I was in EB last night NA prime and I can guarantee we were focusing on SoR and TC at the same time by separating our forces with two commanders to defend/attack 2 fronts when necessary.

o_o

…focusing on SoR and TC at the same time by separating…

o_õ hmmm…

…focusing… by separating…

So you were like <_> ?

Le Rooster.8715:

SoS doesn’t really have any guilds at this stage who can afford to put 15-20 members in a GvG situation. All the guilds we have at this stage are working their butts off learning SoR tactics etc.

Learn their tactics? Bring in bigger numbers > out numbered opponent > crush opponent (and use AC’s everywhere!) I don’t think SoR need to bring in any tier one tactics during this match up.

Because I see nothing amazing about their tactics at all. Nothing to make people stop and say “Wow that was really cunning”. Some of their smaller guilds have some decent open field combat but nothing too amazing. Not like those Euro guilds that were in tier1 for a while and completely decimated larger zergs.

Thobek.1730:

Le Rooster.8715:

SoS doesn’t really have any guilds at this stage who can afford to put 15-20 members in a GvG situation. All the guilds we have at this stage are working their butts off learning SoR tactics etc.

Learn their tactics? Bring in bigger numbers > out numbered opponent > crush opponent (and use AC’s everywhere!) I don’t think SoR need to bring in any tier one tactics during this match up.

Because I see nothing amazing about their tactics at all. Nothing to make people stop and say “Wow that was really cunning”. Some of their smaller guilds have some decent open field combat but nothing too amazing. Not like those Euro guilds that were in tier1 for a while and completely decimated larger zergs.

Bring it to GvG and find out.
Otherwise quit trolling. =D

Nice battles today in EB.
SOR you have been a handful all day.
TC worked our butt off just to keep our third and only managed to flip one of your T3 towers. We opened up Sm, but only got into the lords room once.

SOS – We tried to throw you a bone all day in EB. Pushing Golanta and Jerrifer hoping you would push them on the other side. The enemy of our enemy is our friend????

It will be a challenging week ahead, looking forward to some good fights…

It’s really hard for a formal cross server coordination to work, we all should knlw better than that. I know everyone is frustrated, but lets all try our best not to tKe it out on each other here.

I was thinking today about this matchup and, as kittened up as it is, actually serves a purpose.
Though SoS never got to take on T3, ratings-wise we are at the head of that group (queue massive Maguuma denial in 3, 2, 1…), TC is the head of T2 (by a hair), and SoR leads in T1.

This matchup, along with FA, EB, Mag, will show everyone what the differences between the tiers are.

It shows how ridiculously a server has to overstack it’s WvW population to take #1. SoS was loaded back in it’s time, but SoS had nothing compared to what SoR, BG, and JQ have had to mutate into in order to stay competitive.

TC is no pushover, while the score from last week was lopsided due to FA/TC BFF status, they clearly have a big advantage over T3. FA is dominating EB and Mag, both servers fancied themselves as possible contenders.

SoS…well, we lost all but a handful of our WvW centric guilds (We still only have 5, with 2 having transferred recently) and we still lack NA.

All in all, this matchup system should end because everyone can see from last week to this week how the land lies.

Continuing it after this will just break the format for 75% or more of the servers out there.

Avenge.1478:

This matchup is beginning to suck. When TC and SOS are out in force, its a ton of fun, sadly, SoR as a server just completely outmans those two and its impossible to get in passed the hour+ long queues.

ANet, I know switching it up is ‘hip and cool’ and whatever, but when you forcefully change matchups to boring meaningless ones between a stacked server and a non-stacked server(s), youre doing everybody who enjoys WvW on those servers a disservice.

Or you could unstack servers.. idk just a thought..

You guys in SoS and TC sure don’t give up. The fights in EB are epic. For being the underdogs, you both give it your all. I give you guys lots of respect coming into EB and non stop attacking us. Wouldn’t mind facing you both again in the future when you both at numbers comparable to ours.

Le Rooster.8715:

Shaojack.3871:

Is there a reason why we haven’t set up some GvG’s yet?

From what i know, TC guilds don’t GvG.

SoS doesn’t really have any guilds at this stage who can afford to put 15-20 members in a GvG situation. All the guilds we have at this stage are working their butts off learning SoR tactics etc.

SoR Tactics: If we don’t outnumber ’em RUN AWAY!

Chewy.9263:

Le Rooster.8715:

Shaojack.3871:

Is there a reason why we haven’t set up some GvG’s yet?

From what i know, TC guilds don’t GvG.

SoS doesn’t really have any guilds at this stage who can afford to put 15-20 members in a GvG situation. All the guilds we have at this stage are working their butts off learning SoR tactics etc.

SoR Tactics: If we don’t outnumber ’em RUN AWAY!

Lawl, don’t pretend we mimic your tactics =D
We really just want to fight, who knows maybe you’re right but other than just trash talking on the forums, get some fellas together and we can fight it out even numbers open field and you can show us how it’s really done.
Either way will be fun, and will be less time spent on the forums taking cheap shots at each other that hold little to absolutely no weight at all.

Avenge.1478:

This matchup is beginning to suck. When TC and SOS are out in force, its a ton of fun, sadly, SoR as a server just completely outmans those two and its impossible to get in passed the hour+ long queues.

ANet, I know switching it up is ‘hip and cool’ and whatever, but when you forcefully change matchups to boring meaningless ones between a stacked server and a non-stacked server(s), youre doing everybody who enjoys WvW on those servers a disservice.

SoR stacked itself- perhaps this is anets way of forcing the population to spread out for the sake of healthy matchups??? /tinfoil hat

Doomdesire.9365:

What is the name of the guy(s) that run TC’s dueling guild? May I get an invite?

Is that what people are doing on TC BL when it is queued and there is no resistance to SOR.

Thobek.1730:

Le Rooster.8715:

SoS doesn’t really have any guilds at this stage who can afford to put 15-20 members in a GvG situation. All the guilds we have at this stage are working their butts off learning SoR tactics etc.

Learn their tactics? Bring in bigger numbers > out numbered opponent > crush opponent (and use AC’s everywhere!) I don’t think SoR need to bring in any tier one tactics during this match up.

Because I see nothing amazing about their tactics at all. Nothing to make people stop and say “Wow that was really cunning”. Some of their smaller guilds have some decent open field combat but nothing too amazing. Not like those Euro guilds that were in tier1 for a while and completely decimated larger zergs.

It’s still impressive that they can get so many people to cooperate like that. If you aren’t winning and handing them easy bags, WvWers on TC won’t typically won’t cooperate with anything. They’d rather go off and tie up queue space dueling, rping, and doing other random stuff.

Why must the Tc people kill us as we tried to keep SoR from bringing reinforcements into your bay we only wanted to help, I even cheered and waved

ko killer.3692:

Why must the Tc people kill us as we tried to keep SoR from bringing reinforcements into your bay we only wanted to help, I even cheered and waved

Depends on who you run into. My guild purposefully avoided bothering SoS all night unless you gets just ran in and attacked us.

timidobserver.7925:

ko killer.3692:

Why must the Tc people kill us as we tried to keep SoR from bringing reinforcements into your bay we only wanted to help, I even cheered and waved

Depends on who you run into. My guild purposefully avoided bothering SoS all night unless you gets just ran in and attacked us.

Oh no, we went through the north gate that you all broke down in to your bay and hung out on the south gate trying to cut SoR off from running into bay

Some awesome fighting earlier (and ongoing) on SOR BL against TC.

Best moment on chat:
“Watch out for EP, coming your way?”
“What’s EP?”
Massive force of red tags comes pouring over the hill
“That’s EP.”

Probably the best move I saw all day was when TC guys took Cragtop. The gate was just down and I was dead in the courtyard, but we had a relief force running in from Garri. TC sent a small force up the ramp to kill the lord, and then the rest of them hid in the corner by the gate, all stacked up. Before I could warn anyone, our guys came running in in one long line to chase up the ramp. . . and then the TC guys in the corner pounced and wiped us. Superbly well played.

On a side note (PINK) has some kitten good roamers

Shaojack.3871:

Thobek.1730:

Le Rooster.8715:

SoS doesn’t really have any guilds at this stage who can afford to put 15-20 members in a GvG situation. All the guilds we have at this stage are working their butts off learning SoR tactics etc.

Learn their tactics? Bring in bigger numbers > out numbered opponent > crush opponent (and use AC’s everywhere!) I don’t think SoR need to bring in any tier one tactics during this match up.

Because I see nothing amazing about their tactics at all. Nothing to make people stop and say “Wow that was really cunning”. Some of their smaller guilds have some decent open field combat but nothing too amazing. Not like those Euro guilds that were in tier1 for a while and completely decimated larger zergs.

Bring it to GvG and find out.
Otherwise quit trolling. =D

don’t get mad… I just saying I haven’t seen anything amazing. Obviously you pride yourself in GvG. Good for you – keep it up.

kevinskyrider.3271:

Shaojack.3871:

Harrish.8743:

Avenge.1478:

This matchup is beginning to suck. When TC and SOS are out in force, its a ton of fun, sadly, SoR as a server just completely outmans those two and its impossible to get in passed the hour+ long queues.

SOR doesn’t really need to have hour+ long queues for this match up. Go grab a beer, or take a walk outside. If you throttle back a bit maybe TC and SoS can field some decent resistance for short bursts. At this rate, though, our WvW pop is going to fall not grow and the rest of the week is going to be even more boring.

Lots of respect to SOR for building up such a great WvW server, but you are going to be bored to death every week from here on out unless you happen to draw BG and JQ. Not sure what the solution is (absent Anet changing the system), but this is the new normal for WvW now.

Ya I think SoR, BG, and JQ are pretty aware of this. =P
I don’t see this system lasting too much longer though, I can see doing small shuffles but sending SoS to fight SoR was simply too far. They should really look at this match up sytem again and I feel they will.

I think having a 2nd t1 server in this matchup would at least balance it a bit. TC has a lot of potential, and that would allow them to play around more.

hopefully its sor/bg/tc and jq/db/fa those would be pretty good match ups

i had the privilege of stepping back into WvW again yesterday and can i just say, it was extremely fun. played during SEA/Oceanic or what have you and was mainly roaming and in small groups of other roamers… had some fun fights between SoS and TC alike.

SoS, i didn’t get to play against as much. but hopefully will get to in the week to come. TC, have always loved playing against you guys. you always keep coming up with new fun approaches to WvW. lot of respect for you all.

aaaaaaaaand can we please please please do a doly parade at a time where i can make it too? : DDDDD i have work at 8pm server time (since me from HK).

[added: really appreciate all the positivity in here. regardless if from TC, SoS or SoR. keep it up you folk. there are good fights to be had regardless of numbers. we can make it what we will. YOU can make it what you will. don’t let the “state of the game” or “numbers” get you down. stay positive and be life-giving. i REALLY raelly think it makes a difference.. and not just for the sake of your gaming experience.D and don’t get me wrong, as lovey dovey and pacificist, idealist, whatever you wanna call it as that sounds… i thirst for competition and a good fight. ROOOOOAR.]

I can’t be the only that remembers fighting SoR with a similar population.

Anz today was a good example of when SoS really wants to fight.
Can SoR and TC try to go seriously at each other?
I dont really mind two zergs roaming in our area getting only what is easy like supply camps or wooden towers that someone else flipped,but try to kill something.
If i am carting 300 people every 5 mins,i expect to get some wxp at least.

Edit: SM all north walls are down ^^ you can hate me later

Thobek.1730:

Shaojack.3871:

Thobek.1730:

Le Rooster.8715:

SoS doesn’t really have any guilds at this stage who can afford to put 15-20 members in a GvG situation. All the guilds we have at this stage are working their butts off learning SoR tactics etc.

Learn their tactics? Bring in bigger numbers > out numbered opponent > crush opponent (and use AC’s everywhere!) I don’t think SoR need to bring in any tier one tactics during this match up.

Because I see nothing amazing about their tactics at all. Nothing to make people stop and say “Wow that was really cunning”. Some of their smaller guilds have some decent open field combat but nothing too amazing. Not like those Euro guilds that were in tier1 for a while and completely decimated larger zergs.

Bring it to GvG and find out.
Otherwise quit trolling. =D

don’t get mad… I just saying I haven’t seen anything amazing. Obviously you pride yourself in GvG. Good for you – keep it up.

Not mad at all, I have been nothing BUT impressed with SoS and TC this matchup.
Score aside you guys should be proud of your outstanding performance and exemplary devotion on the field.

/salute

GvG is a fun way for guilds to fight it out without all the siege and number differential. I do really like it, even losing is fine because you can always improve and fight again. It is a good way to try out and share tactics and evolve the open field game.
I hope guilds on SoS or TC would consider the offer at least, or ask questions which I will gladly answer what I can.

So proud of our toasters. <3 you guys.

@Shaojack

You might have better luck later in the week.

The problem is neither TC nor SoS have any free bodies to spare with SoR’s numbers and constant pressure.

In this match it’s easy for [Choo] to pull 15-20 people out of the fight (hell you guys could take the whole week off) and it won’t much impact your effectiveness on the field but TC and SoS simply can’t afford to do that.

You can say “well everything’s decided” and “points don’t matter” but at least from TC’s perspective nobody likes to see our BL overrun while one of our guilds was circle-jerking (no offense) in a meaningless fight.

Rackhir Tanelorn.9123:

@Shaojack

You might have better luck later in the week.

The problem is neither TC nor SoS have any free bodies to spare with SoR’s numbers and constant pressure.

In this match it’s easy for [Choo] to pull 15-20 people out of the fight (hell you guys could take the whole week off) and it won’t much impact your effectiveness on the field but TC and SoS simply can’t afford to do that.

You can say “well everything’s decided” and “points don’t matter” but at least from TC’s perspective nobody likes to see our BL overrun while one of our guilds was circle-jerking (no offense) in a meaningless fight.

I respect your opinion, but don’t feel it is meaningless.
We did these in T1, while wvw was going on, they usually don’t take very long and most people will probably be watching, they can be very exciting.

I do hope that we can get a few set up later in the week maybe. =)

I think what you said on a different post about GvG is what SoS and TC are feeling at the moment (the part about golems and 50 people)

Shaojack.3871:

nothing.7941:

gvg within wvw is great fun, no need to add any perks or special maps.

Unless you’re on a more populated server where the GvG matches can be viewed as disruptive and very well can be at times. However most WvW guilds are pushing this in my bracket atm and support each other. It’s a lot of fun but hard to ignore another server ripping all your stuff away while ya do the GvG.

Will be watching team chat… “OMG 50 BG at Hills!!! They got golems!!! HALP they pulled me off the wall, their hitting me now!! oh’ lord it HURTS!!! HALPppPPpP!!!11! OMFG a ranger spiked me!!!! A $#*&#$ RANGER!!! Where is everyone?!?!”
Pause GvG match, run to hills, wipe zerg, repair doors, then recommence GvG

Why it is still fun in it’s current state, I’d be all for adding a way for guilds to duke it out off the map. Once concern I’ve read is they don’t want to take people away from WvW. One way to combat this, is make it a weekly pass or something, allow like 2 to 4 passes a week into the GvG area or make it cost influence or something.

Rackhir Tanelorn.9123:

The problem is neither TC nor SoS have any free bodies to spare with SoR’s numbers and constant pressure.

In this match it’s easy for [Choo] to pull 15-20 people out of the fight (hell you guys could take the whole week off) and it won’t much impact your effectiveness on the field but TC and SoS simply can’t afford to do that.

You can say “well everything’s decided” and “points don’t matter” but at least from TC’s perspective nobody likes to see our BL overrun while one of our guilds was circle-jerking (no offense) in a meaningless fight.

I think that there is one thing that you and everyone else who is refusing to GVG [CHOO] and other guilds doesn’t understand:

In the past, GVG in T1 has been a huge spectacle. If you GVG [CHOO] or any other guild, pretty much EVERYONE in that guild, plus spectators from other guild are taken off maps and often put maps into queue Unless someone tries to flip a fully upgraded keep or garri, they all stay and watch. Essentially it can lighten the load for your guys on other maps.

Also, they seem to use similar, if not identical tactics in GVG as they do open world fights, so it will allow your commanders to observer what the main force of that guild does in the larger zergs filled with other Rallians.

Basically, don’t think of GVG as worthless, or purely entertainment. Use it as a training tool to train your regular WVW players. It will make your guild better overall and save you supply from having to build ridiculous amounts of siege to counter our forces in the field.

The thing to be understood here, is that almost no guilds on SoS field more than 15 at any time; and those guilds (TS, ORL, FANG, etc) are expected to anchor their maps if they come on in force.
In short, there is no one available to GvG you. You’d be better off challenging us to SPvP LOL

beenjamin.9412:

I think what you said on a different post about GvG is what SoS and TC are feeling at the moment (the part about golems and 50 people)

Shaojack.3871:

nothing.7941:

gvg within wvw is great fun, no need to add any perks or special maps.

Unless you’re on a more populated server where the GvG matches can be viewed as disruptive and very well can be at times. However most WvW guilds are pushing this in my bracket atm and support each other. It’s a lot of fun but hard to ignore another server ripping all your stuff away while ya do the GvG.

Will be watching team chat… “OMG 50 BG at Hills!!! They got golems!!! HALP they pulled me off the wall, their hitting me now!! oh’ lord it HURTS!!! HALPppPPpP!!!11! OMFG a ranger spiked me!!!! A $#*&#$ RANGER!!! Where is everyone?!?!”
Pause GvG match, run to hills, wipe zerg, repair doors, then recommence GvG

Why it is still fun in it’s current state, I’d be all for adding a way for guilds to duke it out off the map. Once concern I’ve read is they don’t want to take people away from WvW. One way to combat this, is make it a weekly pass or something, allow like 2 to 4 passes a week into the GvG area or make it cost influence or something.

Aye, it was a constructive post in my opinion, with these things happening we still GvG during a super competitive tier 1 match up and I did use a made up example that I imagined was happening when I heard people calling enemy movements in /teamchat. =D

It happens, Im curious if we could organize a very short stand down for a match though.

timidobserver.7925:

It’s still impressive that they can get so many people to cooperate like that. If you aren’t winning and handing them easy bags, WvWers on TC won’t typically won’t cooperate with anything. They’d rather go off and tie up queue space dueling, rping, and doing other random stuff.

Are you sure you’re on our server? O_o

Usagi.4835:

timidobserver.7925:

It’s still impressive that they can get so many people to cooperate like that. If you aren’t winning and handing them easy bags, WvWers on TC won’t typically won’t cooperate with anything. They’d rather go off and tie up queue space dueling, rping, and doing other random stuff.

Are you sure you’re on our server? O_o

Yup I am. It’s an awesome server, but trying to get people to cooperate can be pretty frustrating at times. Particularly on TCBL.

Hickeroar.9734:

Usagi.4835:

He’s trolling you and/or he’s being disingenuous. Or maybe just dense.

I really hope I was being trolled…because anyone who thinks we actually outnumbered SoR on SoRBL today is clearly delusional.

I think the biggest unified force we had when we were fighting at any point today on SoRBL was about 40 players. Most of the time we were running in the 20s, maybe hitting 30. I even had to go to Lion’s Arch and broadcast for people to come into SoRBL to help us since our numbers were so low….

we had 21 people online on the iron teamspeak pretty much during that whole siege. dunno about the pugs though.

timidobserver.7925:

Usagi.4835:

timidobserver.7925:

It’s still impressive that they can get so many people to cooperate like that. If you aren’t winning and handing them easy bags, WvWers on TC won’t typically won’t cooperate with anything. They’d rather go off and tie up queue space dueling, rping, and doing other random stuff.

Are you sure you’re on our server? O_o

Yup I am. It’s an awesome server, but trying to get people to cooperate can be pretty frustrating at times. Particularly on TCBL.

That’s a valid point; though in fairness there are good days and bad days. And of course, we can always improve but people are not tying up queue space for RPing or picnics or anything like that lol (as nice as that would be). But that’s something we’ll have to work on together. <holds hand>

Wolbryne.4037:

we had 21 people online on the iron teamspeak pretty much during that whole siege. dunno about the pugs though.

Yeah but there is no way you had only 21 lol. That must’ve been a lot of militia. I have proof in bruises.

timidobserver.7925:

Usagi.4835:

timidobserver.7925:

It’s still impressive that they can get so many people to cooperate like that. If you aren’t winning and handing them easy bags, WvWers on TC won’t typically won’t cooperate with anything. They’d rather go off and tie up queue space dueling, rping, and doing other random stuff.

Are you sure you’re on our server? O_o

Yup I am. It’s an awesome server, but trying to get people to cooperate can be pretty frustrating at times. Particularly on TCBL.

That is not an issue isolated to just TC =P
There are plenty of times SoR commanders will be calling for people and they just run off and play shoot it out with people on a tower then get run over by a zerg while standing in arrowcart fire =D
With people in teamspeak this is less of an issue but you can usually tell who is not in teamspeak cuz they are the blue arrows the enemy train just ran over.

timidobserver.7925:

Usagi.4835:

timidobserver.7925:

It’s still impressive that they can get so many people to cooperate like that. If you aren’t winning and handing them easy bags, WvWers on TC won’t typically won’t cooperate with anything. They’d rather go off and tie up queue space dueling, rping, and doing other random stuff.

Are you sure you’re on our server? O_o

Yup I am. It’s an awesome server, but trying to get people to cooperate can be pretty frustrating at times. Particularly on TCBL.

Cooperation generally is only a real problem on TCBL though, and that’s only “sometimes.” We’re learning to improve in that area, and I think this matchup is going to help us learn a lot in that area. I’ve been very impressed with the coordination I’ve seen by SoR on their BL.

Sometimes cooperation is tough on EBG, but you can almost have no tag and EBG just works on autopilot.

Enemy borderlands are generally run by guilds, or at least “the guilded” who are almost entirely in mumble together, or with commanders communicating cross-channel. I’m really proud of TC for the level of friendliness and cooperation shown between guilds and guilds leaders who share the battlefields.

Shaojack.3871:

timidobserver.7925:

Usagi.4835:

timidobserver.7925:

It’s still impressive that they can get so many people to cooperate like that. If you aren’t winning and handing them easy bags, WvWers on TC won’t typically won’t cooperate with anything. They’d rather go off and tie up queue space dueling, rping, and doing other random stuff.

Are you sure you’re on our server? O_o

Yup I am. It’s an awesome server, but trying to get people to cooperate can be pretty frustrating at times. Particularly on TCBL.

That is not an issue isolated to just TC =P
There are plenty of times SoR commanders will be calling for people and they just run off and play shoot it out with people on a tower then get run over by a zerg while standing in arrowcart fire =D
With people in teamspeak this is less of an issue but you can usually tell who is not in teamspeak cuz they are the blue arrows the enemy train just ran over.

I never said it was isolated to TC. SOR is just better at getting around it, thus the 70-90 man zergs they s how up with.

Fun fights in both SOS and SOR BLs today for ZN,
it was fun defending hills ,after i 5 man took it from sos, against SOR then hours later moving to SOR and working with EP to take bay! (as well as two northern towers that where just being attacked to distract >_<)
good fights got alot of footage for our weekly recap!

uneditedbrute.8136:

Fun fights in both SOS and SOR BLs today for ZN,
it was fun defending hills ,after i 5 man took it from sos, against SOR then hours later moving to SOR and working with EP to take bay! (as well as two northern towers that where just being attacked to distract >_<)
good fights got alot of footage for our weekly recap!

Yeah, tonight was an absolute ball in SoR and SoS BLs.

SoS: Sorry we had to borrow your garrison for a few minutes. :-X

Great job, great fights. Attaching a screenshot of our peak PPT, for the record.

Hickeroar.9734:

uneditedbrute.8136:

Fun fights in both SOS and SOR BLs today for ZN,
it was fun defending hills ,after i 5 man took it from sos, against SOR then hours later moving to SOR and working with EP to take bay! (as well as two northern towers that where just being attacked to distract >_<)
good fights got alot of footage for our weekly recap!

Yeah, tonight was an absolute ball in SoR and SoS BLs.

SoS: Sorry we had to borrow your garrison for a few minutes. :-X

Great job, great fights. Attaching a screenshot of our peak PPT, for the record.

Is that a score update?!?!? I haven’t seen one of those since the 90s!

timidobserver.7925:

Usagi.4835:

timidobserver.7925:

It’s still impressive that they can get so many people to cooperate like that. If you aren’t winning and handing them easy bags, WvWers on TC won’t typically won’t cooperate with anything. They’d rather go off and tie up queue space dueling, rping, and doing other random stuff.

Are you sure you’re on our server? O_o

Yup I am. It’s an awesome server, but trying to get people to cooperate can be pretty frustrating at times. Particularly on TCBL.

It can be, but we are seeing more people willing to sentry and scout/dolyak scouts too. It’s an improving situation, but it’s not as bad as you make it seem in my opinion.

timidobserver.7925:

Shaojack.3871:

timidobserver.7925:

Usagi.4835:

timidobserver.7925:

It’s still impressive that they can get so many people to cooperate like that. If you aren’t winning and handing them easy bags, WvWers on TC won’t typically won’t cooperate with anything. They’d rather go off and tie up queue space dueling, rping, and doing other random stuff.

Are you sure you’re on our server? O_o

Yup I am. It’s an awesome server, but trying to get people to cooperate can be pretty frustrating at times. Particularly on TCBL.

That is not an issue isolated to just TC =P
There are plenty of times SoR commanders will be calling for people and they just run off and play shoot it out with people on a tower then get run over by a zerg while standing in arrowcart fire =D
With people in teamspeak this is less of an issue but you can usually tell who is not in teamspeak cuz they are the blue arrows the enemy train just ran over.

I never said it was isolated to TC. SOR is just better at getting around it, thus the 70-90 man zergs they s how up with.

haha, I feel you may be vastly pumping our zerg numbers up.
I’m pretty sure you will roll your eyes at me but ask any commander on SoR how often he has 70-90 zerglings under his tag. Most will probably answer not often/never and if so, VERY briefly =P

Shaojack.3871:

timidobserver.7925:

Shaojack.3871:

timidobserver.7925:

Usagi.4835:

timidobserver.7925:

It’s still impressive that they can get so many people to cooperate like that. If you aren’t winning and handing them easy bags, WvWers on TC won’t typically won’t cooperate with anything. They’d rather go off and tie up queue space dueling, rping, and doing other random stuff.

Are you sure you’re on our server? O_o

Yup I am. It’s an awesome server, but trying to get people to cooperate can be pretty frustrating at times. Particularly on TCBL.

That is not an issue isolated to just TC =P
There are plenty of times SoR commanders will be calling for people and they just run off and play shoot it out with people on a tower then get run over by a zerg while standing in arrowcart fire =D
With people in teamspeak this is less of an issue but you can usually tell who is not in teamspeak cuz they are the blue arrows the enemy train just ran over.

I never said it was isolated to TC. SOR is just better at getting around it, thus the 70-90 man zergs they s how up with.

haha, I feel you may be vastly pumping our zerg numbers up.
I’m pretty sure you will roll your eyes at me but ask any commander on SoR how often he has 70-90 zerglings under his tag. Most will probably answer not often/never and if so, VERY briefly =P

Haha, yep. Average, not including reset night, Rallians prefer to roam in 20-40 man groups. If we had 70-90 man zergs on each map, SoS nor TC would have a single keep.

I posted this in the other match up, but it also applies here :P

If there is one thing that this match up has taught me, is how stacked the tier 1 servers are compared to tier 2.

Match ups like this are going to be very common from now on, I think we’d all have more fun if some of the guilds on tier 1 servers moved to DB, TC, SoS, and FA.

If you’re an American guild in look for a new home, Sea of Sorrows has a very small American population, by far the smallest of the top 7 servers. But it is still the unofficial Oceanic Server, and despite several server splits in the past, it still has a very large and friendly Oceanic player base.

Fort Aspenwood, Dragonband and Tarnished Coast could benefit from a few American guilds as well as SEA.

TSYM runs only with 200, no less. No more either! If we get 201, we Gkick someone.

Cirus.5748:

If there is one thing that this match up has taught me, is how stacked the tier 1 servers are compared to tier 2.

You could say the same thing about T2/3 as well. Actually, I think it’s even worse when a T2 server is “demoted” to T3 for the week. FA and DB have spanked T3 harder than SoR is spanking T2.

If there’s one thing we’ve learned, it’s that SoS would/should have been at the top of T3 before the matchup changes.

In any case, the top three tiers could be locked in by rating right now, and would be excellently stacked against each other.

If SoS should have been 7th and is now 7th, it appears the ranking is working.

SoR has shown a lot of class this week, I hope to see them again in a match. Hopefully not next week…. Think we should send Anet cookies and a match wishlist?

uneditedbrute.8136:

Fun fights in both SOS and SOR BLs today for ZN,
it was fun defending hills ,after i 5 man took it from sos, against SOR then hours later moving to SOR and working with EP to take bay! (as well as two northern towers that where just being attacked to distract >_<)
good fights got alot of footage for our weekly recap!

Dat charr Jesus. <3

Chewy.9263:

Le Rooster.8715:

Shaojack.3871:

Is there a reason why we haven’t set up some GvG’s yet?

From what i know, TC guilds don’t GvG.

SoS doesn’t really have any guilds at this stage who can afford to put 15-20 members in a GvG situation. All the guilds we have at this stage are working their butts off learning SoR tactics etc.

SoR Tactics: If we don’t outnumber ’em RUN AWAY!

NOPE.

VoxShatterfall.5470:

To sum up- you guys are skilled and more organized, we have to use 30 guys to wipe 5 guys. This isn’t something to be complaining about.

I believe most of SoR’s major WvW guilds will accept GvGs whether it be 30v30, 15v15 or anything in between.

The siege of SoR BAY lasted what? 4-5hours?

We started with 40-42 including militia. And fought TC on their terms. Below arrowcart and treb supression. You wiped us one time during the first few ours infront of bay and made us retreat one time aswell. Once we cleared the siege you were having a harder time. But still came out fighting. Loved that!

Was a bit sad to see the arrowcarts being insta replaced though ; (.

When we took bay after the 4hours of sieging and distracting etc. We were 21 IRON with 12 militia running with us. One of them being a lvl 22 upscaled warrior (mentioning this to give him an kitten boost since he fails at playing his necro!).

Al with all we might’ve started with the same numbers. We ended with being outnumbered.

This however doesn’t change the fact that (correct me if i’m wrong) we all had a lot of fun.
Which is what the game is about.