Guild Wars 2

Lawton Campbell.8517:

Hmm, I’ll look into getting some of those images added to the /v2/files endpoint. Not sure if/when they’ll be available though.

Thanks for the response. Some of those I don’t really need on the endpoint since I can find them elsewhere. The icons I can’t find anywhere, though, are the unused infusion ones. Would it be possible for me to somehow get those icons in the meantime?

I’m building a script that creates an item tooltip on hover for websites. I know there are others already created, and would just prefer to make my own.

Anyway, I’m trying to see if there are a few assets on the render service that I simply don’t have the URL for. Some of these images I have found online and would simply prefer to use the render service, others I can’t find elsewhere.

• Unused defensive infusion slot icon
• Unused offensive infusion slot icon
• Unused agony resistance infusion slot icon
• Unused upgrade slot icon
• Gold / silver / copper icons
• Nourishment (apple and wrench) icons
• Tooltip background image
• Font used on tooltips (not necessary, but would be nice)

If they aren’t on the render service, does anyone know where to find the unused infusion slot icons?

Thanks

Lawton Campbell.8517:

We’ll try our best to keep everything working without changes on the application end. I don’t know if there’s going to be any HoT-related changes, but there definitely are some warts I’d like to see fixed, which include:

• The “Outfit” consumable’s type is currently listed as “Unknown”.
• Boon/Condi Duration isn’t listed in the infix_upgrade’s attributes, but rather in a string.
• Some other stuff I’m forgetting.

Since these change the values of existing fields we’re returning, I personally consider them breaking changes and would like to (eventually) figure out a good way to make them to the v2 endpoint. It’s not really on the immediate list of things to do, though. If we do plan on breaking stuff in the future, we’ll probably post a topic about it to get feedback on the change before deploying it.

I think changes that add completely new fields to existing objects are non-breaking, e.g., if we add a “learned_from” field to v2/recipes that contains a list of item_ids (from which the recipe can be learned), I don’t currently think it’d be a big deal. I kind of feel the same way about flags — if there’s some flag we missed, I wouldn’t really consider it a breaking change to add it in — but I can definitely see the argument to the contrary there.

Let me know if that sounds crazy.

Well then there’s not much to worry about. I try to keep static tweaks in my projects to a minimum, so those two breaking changes you listed wouldn’t actually break mine.

Personally, new fields or flags wouldn’t affect my projects. I can, however, see completely new data fields (not just flags) possibly breaking other’s projects that rely on RDBMS’ that have inflexible crawlers. NoSQL db’s should be fine, though.

Thanks for the response

Sorry, I’ll try to clarify what I mean by breaking changes in the context of my current project which mostly deals with the v2 Items endpoint.

At the moment, I’m getting closer to writing a js-driven tooltip that grabs an “items” information with v2 of the API. The way I have it coded now, if new item types or subtypes (like new types of weapons) follow the same conventions other items have used then it shouldn’t break. I would just need to tweak the tooltip for aesthetics.

If, however, the data structure itself changes it would break everything. As an example, if they changed the names of certain fields or flattened the infix_upgrade subobject into the item_details object, I’m sure that would break just about everyone’s projects relying on the items API. Hopefully if they decide to do that, it will be with a v3 API.

Something else to consider is what additions they will be making to the fundamental item system. For instance, they could add a new feature that allows players to place more than 1 upgrade in a piece of armor (rune + something else). Something like that may not break projects, but it could invalidate them.

Anyway, this post was me fishing for info from ANet, as I doubt there will be a flashy trailer with epic music made for API changes. Hopefully we’ll get some information before HoT is released so we can tweak / redo the projects we currently have.

I have been designing a site based off the TP API for a while now, and just heard about the HoT expansion. I’m trying to decide if I should continue creating the site hoping that there are no breaking changes to the GW2 API, or wait it out.

Can we expect an API v3? Will there be any changes to the API? If there are, could those be breaking changes?

As a side note, I think it would be awesome if those OAuth features that were mentioned previously in this forum came out .

Man, all these people saying the ele sucks.

No, the ele isn’t going to do the highest burst damage. No, they are not going to be easy to play. And yes, they have the crappiest base health / armor in the game. If you are a “ZOMG BIG NUMBERS” person, the ele probably isn’t for you. Other professions will probably do better in duels than an ele.

The areas ele’s really shine at are high sustained AoE DPS, crowd control, condition removal, and combos (fields + finishers).

Most of the ele’s skills are AoE. So while you aren’t going to burst someone down like a 2-spamming d/p thief, you will outDPS them when you have access to a clump of enemies.

You also won’t be able to pump out the same raw damage as a zerker 100 blades warrior. Keep in mind, though, that zerker 100 blades warriors are very squishy and most of their damage requires enemies to stand right next to them. If you take 100 blades warrior into WvW or sPvP, you are pretty much telling the enemy “Here, stand still for me while I spin in place”.

Keep in mind that ele’s don’t need all that much health to begin with. When you go into the water trait line, just roll off of you. With a lot of condition removal, toughness + healing power is the way to go. Toughness will make each point of health count for much more, and healing power will keep your health sustained. Combine that with heavy control skills and several escape methods, and you will be one annoying kitten to kill.

So overall, if you are using burst damage or base stats to compare eles to other professions, the ele just isn’t going to match up to it. The ele excels in areas that are difficult to measure. And they are one of the harder professions to play in the game, because they are all about managing cooldowns and utility. /End Rant

To the people testing meteor shower against dummies: If you cast meteor shower and immediately go into tornado, your meteors inherit the bonus +1000 power and +40% crit chance.

I would still play WvW.

GvG, for me, was a way to get better at WvW combat. You could be the best tactician, place siege in the right places, but you won’t always be able to take something undefended. Eventually you will have to take something with the knowledge that you can kill your enemies open field. Otherwise, you are stuck having to ninja things while your enemies are otherwise occupied 100% of the time.

If we had a GvG arena, I would still do WvW.

WvW isn’t perfect, but it is still fun to take on other servers. Even if we did have a formal outlet for GvG, it would still be hilariously fun to take 15-20 people and kill 40-50.

XRKUN.1782:

Mif.3471:

Niim.9260:

XRKUN.1782:

as i already stated in another topic…GvGers are a waste of spots and only in the way on the battlefield, so absolutely yes give them an instance / open pvp area far away from real WvW players.

Hi zerglet.

And this is why people dislike the GvG playerbase.

He supports the GvG cause, and yet you still find the need to insult him with petty name calling because he’s not personally into GvG.

well thats the point i dont really get…
WvW is a permanent fight across 4 big maps with loads of ppl. it requires an huge amount of tactics and coordination and is hard to predict due to different group sizes, buffs, player skills, siege weapons, terrain and so on. its the closest thing ive seen in a mmo to medieval warfare.
GvG on the other hand is an organized small scale fight between two teams of the same size. both will try to annihilate the opponents with rather preset tactics and the fights arent very surprising or too different.
Yet some GvG players think themselves as ‘elite’ and somehow better than others. Why???
is it really more skillfull to have a 30 guild team attacking another one on a preset battlefield than coordinating hundreds of players from different guilds / solo players with unbalanced amounts of classes / builds on a battlefield where there are strongholds and siege weapons all over the place that can alter the battle in many ways?

i rather think the real problem is that some have a bad inet connection / bad PC, so that huge battles might be a real pain in the patootie for them…and so they go along the line if i cant have fun, noone should so let me call them noobs.
or maybe they get run down frequently by another ‘zerg’ without seeing their own mistake but to take the easy way and call the victors ‘noobs’.

either way its hard to take insults of these people serious.
yet the problem remains and they really need some place to be as they absolutely do not belong on any WvW battlefield imo.

I don’t think most GvG’ers consider themselves to be better than what you are talking about. You are talking about leading WvW. Yes, it can take a large amount of coordination, tactical planning, etc. to do all of that.

But how many people are leading WvW? A few commanders / guilds that run the show. The GvG’ers are more looking down on the people that waltz into WvW and play it like a scarlet event (run around, mash 1, get shinies). Those are the ones that complain the most about GvG.

And the hilarious thing is, the people that lead WvW (coordination, tactics, etc.) are often the ones doing GvG in the first place.

GuardianOMS.8067:

There’s no need to look at anything, some people simply don’t have fun losing. You can’t really tell people to not play a game to win and instead, endure the frustrations of being outmanned, out-sieged, out-buttlusted and losing their entire BL constantly with no rewards for defending it other than a warm fuzzy at the end of the day.

^ This.

I haven’t migrated to a top tier server, but I can see why it is tempting. It’s no fun to be constantly losing due to things that you have no control over. And what is the incentive to stay in a place you keep getting stomped at? You can pat yourself on the back and tell yourself you are doing the “right” thing for only so long.

Riondron.1069:

Genev.2450:

Riondron.1069:

Centrix.4065:

Riondron.1069:

It means 1 or 2 or 3. go learn the basic mechanics of how to read and write the English language. I think they still teach that stuff in first grade.

“I’m done talking to you”…..Good. That is the most awe inspiring, intelligent thing you have typed so far. Way to go, sunshine!

lmao, you finally got it! 1-3 = 1 or 2 or 3 indeed. good job. Took a while

lmao, you still don’t get it! 1-3 = 1 or 2 or 3 I’ll beak it down fer ya, cuz I really am a nice guy.
The statement 1 or 2 or 3, means in very plain, simple English, that it COULD BE 1.
Or it COULD BE 2.
Or it COULD BE 3.
Not seeing the plain, simple connection here?
What this all means is that you said 1
And you also said 2.
(but wait I’m not finished yet)
And you also said 3.

Conclusion: (drumroll please)
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You still did in fact, SAY 1
holey-moley! could it be? is that the final answer? or should we let the audience decide?

lol, by the way, didn’t you say you were finished with talking to me? Or maybe you really didn’t say that either? I’m finally starting to have fun on this post!
lol

What? It was pretty obvious that he said if there were any (as in, more than 0), it could be any number between 1 and 3.
Are you jsut completely ignoring the “if any” bit? What are you even trying to say or prove here? I’m not sure if I should blame my English udnerstanding or yours for this confusion, I’m currently leaning towards yours though.

Yes it could be any number between 1 and 3, but this still includes “1” in his statement, and also includes “2”, and also includes “3”. It’s obvious too that if he included “1” in the statement, it means that he is plainly stating that it could in fact, be “1” or maybe “2” or maybe “3”. I am not ruling out the other number of days, nor the lack thereof.
When referring to a ‘number’ of days in and either/or situation, yes, he did in fact say “1” My evidence to this is further proved by the fact that the poster actually typed the numeral “1” in his statement implying that it could very will mean “1 day” or more than “1 day”, or as his sentence continued, “less than 1 day”.

Someone please get these people an interval notation diagram !

Sirendor.1394:

AggieTechGuy.4901:

Sanduskel.1850:

What’s wrong with zerging?

Eh… Zerging is a really broad term. Some people consider zerging to be very similar to a karma train (mindless mashing 1), and some consider it to be running with any group with X number of people.

I think that most of the people that do GvG consider zerging to be mindlessly running around to autoattack doors. It is an extremely low skill cap, and doesn’t force players to learn.

I also think that is where so much of the frustration comes from in the GvG community. Many of us tried to raise the bar for our servers, and may have had some success doing so. But then ANet comes out with something like the Scarlet event, which reinforces that “farm farm farm” mentality. When many newer people come into WvW, they have absolutely no interest in learning how to become organized, get better, etc.. They just want to get their daily done, an achievement, or map completion. And those are the most frustrating people to us hardcore and competitive players.

Exactly, but it isn’t only the GvG players that have this opinion. A lot of people have a disgust for zerging, because of the mindlessness and the numbers>victory fact.

Fair enough. I know I was getting frustrated way before I even starting considering getting into GvG.

Alright, fine. Some other activities could require the same or more skill as a GvG.

I still think, though, that many people start doing GvG to get better and test themselves against other guilds. That’s the reason my guild started doing it, and it is also the same reason I started doing some fight clubs.

Sanduskel.1850:

What’s wrong with zerging?

Eh… Zerging is a really broad term. Some people consider zerging to be very similar to a karma train (mindless mashing 1), and some consider it to be running with any group with X number of people.

I think that most of the people that do GvG consider zerging to be mindlessly running around to autoattack doors. It is an extremely low skill cap, and doesn’t force players to learn.

I also think that is where so much of the frustration comes from in the GvG community. Many of us tried to raise the bar for our servers, and may have had some success doing so. But then ANet comes out with something like the Scarlet event, which reinforces that “farm farm farm” mentality. When many newer people come into WvW, they have absolutely no interest in learning how to become organized, get better, etc.. They just want to get their daily done, an achievement, or map completion. And those are the most frustrating people to us hardcore and competitive players.

Pendragon.8735:

I think roaming and GvG are apples and oranges in mindset. And the better comparison you try to make from first part to second, would be from roaming to havoc squads (~5 players) where the combat is still very much reactionary and twitch based, where above this number at GvG levels its much more meta based and about executing a plan vs adaptation, which is the allure of the roamer.

GvG is not really just the same thing with more people, because its about the individual subsuming his own decision making (including in fight action, when to use prime abilities, and build designing) to someone else. The most important person in a GvG is the person designing the team composition, understanding what for the current game build is making for the best skill and class combos, etc.

The best comparison I think to be made for GvG is actually something like a PVP version of raiding. The same organizational level and teamwork that drives people to like raiding is apparent in a lot of aspects of a successful GvG team.

And of course, easy to understand why it generates pride at the Guild level, something that is very lacking to achieve in this game elsewhere.

I was talking more about the underlying reasoning for it. While all of the activities you and I mentioned are different in the skill required, in my opinion they all share a common goal: learning how to become better at what you do with a higher level of competition.

Since so many people seem to commonly accept roaming / fight clubs, I thought it would be a good way to show how GvG really isn’t all that different.

Mif.3471:

Niim.9260:

XRKUN.1782:

as i already stated in another topic…GvGers are a waste of spots and only in the way on the battlefield, so absolutely yes give them an instance / open pvp area far away from real WvW players.

Hi zerglet.

And this is why people dislike the GvG playerbase.

He supports the GvG cause, and yet you still find the need to insult him with petty name calling because he’s not personally into GvG.

To be fair, the guy said GvG players aren’t “real” WvW players. And if other guilds that GvG are like mine at all, we are some of the most hardcore WvW players out of the entire server :\ .

Most of the GvG guilds are the leading WvW participants in the server. We are often the ones that organize WvW events, training, etc. to improve our server’s WvW performance. People have a really short memory, though, when we want to spend 30-60 minutes in a week to fight other guilds like us. It becomes very frustrating when players that don’t organize events, don’t show others how to win WvW, don’t lead their server then turn around and say that we are somehow cheating them out of something.

That is partially why you will see some GvG people being elitist kittens. Many didn’t start out that way, but when the people you spend hours helping turn on you, it is a large temptation to dismiss them as “mindless zerglets”.

Come on guys, don’t stop now! 12k more views and this thread will surpass the # of views for any other thread in WvW discussion .

You like to solo roam and go kill random players. You are absolutely wrecking 90% of the people you run into. Are you skilled? Somewhat. You are at least killing some people just trying to get to the nearest zerg.

After a while, you get bored with killing people that can’t really compete with you. Killing unsuspecting pugs is fun, but it loses its allure after you’ve done it over and over again. You want to challenge yourself; find someone who can fight back and give you a run for your money. After all, you can’t be the best if you aren’t winning against the best.

You check the forums and read about fight clubs. This is where most of the like-minded people like you go to fight and test their skill against each other. It sounds appealing, and you start regularly attending.

This is pretty much the exact same thing for GvG, but with larger numbers. Instead of synergy within your own build, you are making sure your group has synergy. Instead of you calling all of the shots, you have someone else that is coordinating everything that happens within your group.

I would argue that managing people into a well-synergized group (builds, personalities, personal skill, composition) takes more skill than becoming the best solo roamer is. That is the allure of GvG – highly competitive group combat.

And just as going to fight clubs improves your personal skill, doing GvG’s improve your group’s skill. Every time you fight another guild, you learn some of their strategies, what both of you did right and wrong. You can analyze and figure out why guild A beat guild B. And with that information, you can get better.

Phoebe Ascension.8437:

Wow at the guys in the video. Such much bashing. So much arrogance. ‘you r*kitten ’, and other name calling. You are basically not playing the game as intented. You are LUCKY that anet hasn’t made a features to counter gvg’s altogether so far. That doesn’t mean you are playing the game as intented. That doesn’t give you the right to be bad namecallers. Gvg people are the most arrogant people in wvw, the most spamming people on forums/twitch, you anoy the crap out of anet, and you are amazed after all this time a Dev lost his ‘professionalism’, shortly after being called a lot of bad names? Seriously…

That being said what the dev did was wrong. There’s no excuse for it. Anyway the bad name calling people, can for the most part, thank themselfs for what just happened. And that should say something. I know a lot of games, that are way more brutal in the way of enforcing the game how they intend you to play it. Anet isn’t like that. You guys cheating wvw 1000’s of times with Gvg’s that are not supposed to happen there. They still haven’t stopped/banned you for it. Be gratefull. A lot of games would not be that kind. This is not fanboyism btw. I played other games. Where i had similar issues wanting to play the game like i wanted it, but the devs disagreed. And they completely inserted countermeasures, so it wasn’t even possible to be stubborn and still do what you want. Calling Anet bad for giving you so much freedom when they don’t have to do that is very unrespectfull. And I can’t help but agree with them, they are not very motivated to ever create gvg now. That’s on you guys (bad namecallers, arrogant ’we own this gvg spot, all interferers are: bad name). Nobody else.

Don’t lump all of the GvG’ers together. I see people acting like kittens in sPvP, WvW (as intended), dungeon groups, etc. But those communities aren’t labelled as “arrogant”. And they did put a countermeasure in when they introduced bloodlust, which made GvG unable to be balanced.

How are we “cheating WvW 1000’s of times”? There may be a few guilds that only do GvG, but the majority of them are the most active WvW guilds in their servers. It seems like many people are completely forgetting that the people that do GvG typically are the ones giving a huge positive impact on your server’s WvW. So don’t act like all GvG guilds are “cheating” you out of something, because most of them are in fact helping you out the most.

Sylv.5324:

AggieTechGuy.4901:

The rule is kind of unclear. What constitutes “authorized personnel”? So any ANet employee can whip out his giant “I’m special” guild tag and start ordering people around?

He was justified in whipping it out when he was being slagged for just standing there.

For some reason, folks seem to think that having an anet tag (or just being a random player) is an excuse for them to be treated like kitten, and that they should just take it because they are employees. I’m glad he spoke up, regardless of the underlying incident, because folks were acting like entitled brats.

Hopefully this won’t derail any progress toward GvG, because using this as a reason to kitten about it IMO is lousy, and showing them support just shows support for the toxic behavior that’s become rampant in certain parts of the community these last few months expecially.

I do agree that the situation could have been handled better by the players, but what was the need to pull out the ANet tag? He could have said whatever he wanted when nobody knew he was an ANet rep. He used his ANet tag to non-verbally intimidate the other players, which in my opinion, is extremely unprofessional and childlike.

Another aspect of this is:

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GW2 Code Rules of Conduct

“You will follow the instructions of authorized personnel while in Guild Wars 2 or on the official Guild Wars 2 website.”

—

The rule is kind of unclear. What constitutes “authorized personnel”? So any ANet employee can whip out his giant “I’m special” guild tag and start ordering people around?

Argon.2405:

AggieTechGuy.4901:

For those complaining about GvG:
. . .

Lovely post, missed the part where you mentioned how farming rank points even if you will fail to win WvW is correct. Please clarify?

I can farm rank points anytime I want; all I have to do is get my guild grouped up and go blob-hunting. And since when can a losing server not get WXP?

Have you even karma trained? The dominant server trains through EB, doesn’t defend stuff, and lets it flip. The lower servers flip things repeatedly. It is often a nonverbal agreement of, “Hey, this matchup sucks. We may as well just flip things and get something out of it”. That seems commonly accepted, but somehow the tiny amount of WXP you get from a GvG is “kill trading”.

There is a lot of standing around in GvG’s, and even if you were to get tags on everyone, we are only looking at 1-2k WXP points in an hour. I can go take a keep and tower to get more WXP than that.

Andrew Clear.1750:

insanemaniac.2456:

Nev.5316:

Bunch of whining kids who think they are entitled to everything , nothing has changed. G v G ruins wvw for others and the spots taken by the guilds couldve been used by others to attack the enemies cohesively.

there are no queues on those 3 servers.

they arent taking up spots that would otherwise be filled.
they are playing in an area that is out of the way of any normal pathing you would take to any objective or pve event.
(hell, they would probably help any uplevel get the nearby skill point)

shoo fly

SBI has ques. Every BL had a que for along time during prime time. EB normally has a que, well into the lat night.

SBI had 1 karma train going. Like I said, this was a Thursday night where not much was happening. You may have had a queue on 1 map at that time, but I sincerely doubt the BL we did the GvG on was queued.

Typically if a map is queued or there was something actually going on, we would go to another borderland.

For those complaining about GvG:

I run one of the largest WvW guilds on IoJ, and most of the people in this GvG are leaders within not only the guild, but our WvW community. When I made [CORE], I was completely uninterested in GvG, but after getting matchups where we win by 200k points or lose by 200k points, WvW was getting to feel like a chore. GvG started looking much more attractive as a form of competitive PvP, so we started practicing it with a few other guilds.

So, on a week where 90% of our server doesn’t show up to WvW and we are getting completely stomped, how is this hurting anyone? We went to an empty map on a Thursday when the matchup was 100% decided. Even if we got everyone on all maps of WvW together, we couldn’t have queued that map. So we were not taking up precious “slots” for a queue.

Some of you will say, “Why not do it in an sPvP arena?” First off, you can only do 10v10’s there. Secondly, the sPvP maps are horrible for open combat (everything is around corners, corridors, etc). Also, in sPvP you are forced into using an amulet + gemstone for your stats. I don’t know about others, but I personally don’t like being forced into using highly specialized builds by using only 1 set of armor / trinkets.

The thing is, my guild was there playing WvW last week when most others dodged. We organize WvW events, are active in our WvW sub-community, and still play horribly lopsided matchups like this. It seems to me that most of the guilds that do GvG are the ones that also organize and drive WvW in their respective servers. So cut us some slack, because overall, we have a much more positive impact on WvW throughout a week than a negative impact caused by us taking up a few slots on a map for 30-60 minutes.

Aeros.2046:

Insane Pancakez.9182:

Visirale.6097:

Insane Pancakez.9182:

Core… Leave your zerg lol you are a GvG/skill group from what I remember last time we played you. 30+ guildies, lots of pugs, and siege? Come on now what do you need to wipe something 1/3 of your size..

1/3? Lol, k. See you on the battlefield this week.

Anyway, the fights were fun I just think you guys should ditch the zerg, you’re a great group really good too. But Skill groups in zergs isn’t really.. Skill

Actually, being able to form a massive force within the confines of a single guild requires a great deal of skill. Administrative skill. Which I suppose is not as smexy as gameplay skill. But well, the amount of work that goes into creating a guild group of that size is enormous. So props to CORE.

Whew, admin skill. I shall organize you into oblivion!

In all seriousness though, we had one of the largest turnouts in a while. We’ve been cooped up a bit in stomp or be stomped matches. At our peak tonight, we had a little over 30 [CORE] running together (+ a few others not in our guild).

It seems like we both engaged each other, and then each of our respective main zergs showed up to the party. Very laggy, but also fun. Props to INC

Well kitten, I wasn’t with [CORE] that night to stake this guy :\

But really, this is one of the saddest / funniest things I’ve seen for the GvG community, because either:

1) This ANet guy had no idea what GvG was, and was thinking that we were just taking turns killing each other.

2) This ANet guy knows what GvG is, and dislikes it enough to consider a GvG a violation of “his” game mode.

Either way, this guy throwing his eKitten around seems to be a loose interpretation of:

“While participating in Plaver-vs-Player (PvP) gameplay, you will not participate in any form of match manipulation. Match manipulation is defined as any action taken to fix or manipulate the outcome of a match or alter or manipulate the rankings or ratings of the ladder. This also includes disrupting other people’s game experience by not actively participating in matches in good faith, a.k.a leeching.”

-GW2 Code of Conduct

Bumping with at least 15 characters

Reserved for Guild Videos / Pictures

We haven’t started making compiled videos yet, but here is a video that will give you an idea of how we do many of our guild raids.

Recruitment

[CORE] is looking for team-oriented and active WvW players that want to be apart of a friendly and competitve environment. We will take some newer WvW players, but we prefer for you to be plugged in to voice communications and know the generalities of WvW already.

We are especially looking for those that are willing to learn, actively communicate, and take initiative. We are also actively looking for those with strong leadership skills that know the complexities of WvW.

The professions we prefer are Warriors, Guardians, Elementalists, Necromancers, and Mesmers; however, a role can be found for you regardless of what profession(s) you have.

If you are interested in [CORE], you can contact us by replying on this thread, or by mailing / whispering the following people:

• AggieTechGuy.4901 (Guildmaster)
• Kattami.2084
• Visirale.6074
• Statement.2456
• Sassenach.1590

About Us

[CORE] considers itself to be a semi-hardcore WvW guild, and has a work hard / play hard environment. When it is crunch time, our main focus is on victory. When we’ve secured our success, we just might run around as quaggans and attempt to kill a legendary defender.

We are humble in our victories, and realize that enemy servers have players just like us – WvWers competing to be the best and have some fun. We do not approve trolling, and expect all of our members to at least be cordial. While losses can be demoralizing, we use them as learning experiences for next time.

At the moment, [CORE] is a medium-sized (100+) guild. Our specialty is zergbusting in guild raids, but we are in the process of organizing small teams for off hours as well as GvG. We are most active between 6 PM and 1 AM server time (pacific), but are always looking to expand our coverage. Our members are mostly North American, but our Oceanic presence is persistently growing.

The activities and services we offer are expanding rapidly. Right now, we offer the following:

• Daily WvW Guild Raids
• Weekly guild missions
• Guild website, forums, and calendar
• Voice communications
• Online and in-game WvW training
• Guild crafting service
• Superior and regular blueprints
• Funded commander tags if you prove yourself
• A friendly, fun, and competitive community
• And numerous loot bags

Expectations

To maintain our structure and ensure that all of our members are active team players, we expect a number of things from our players. These are the foundational rules for [CORE]:

1. You must represent CORE in WvW.
2. You must use voice communications in WvW.
3. You must be respectful and cordial to allies and enemies alike
4. You must be an active WvW player (at the very least 4 hours of WvW per week)

For more information on our structure, rules, and goals, please visit our About Page.

playard.6035:

I think it applies to your own server mates, too.

True, it does apply to a server. But you can’t control an entire server. You should be able to control your guild.

dank.3680:

AggieTechGuy.4901:

snip-long winded QQ.

Omg man dat WvW… So srs… Nobody can haz fun mkay? No horseplay guyz pls ppl get dem hurt feelz u know..

Seriously dude calm down.. First of all, 99% of the emote spam going on during your match was from ME all the /cheer/cry spam etc.. And it had NOTHING to do with you at all.

Also, I was the one who threw siege down on top of you after one of your rounds.. That had nothing to do with anything just to do it..

Try not to be so sensitive, everyone is just being silly having a good time..

Oh and DDLG good 1v1 with me during a break between your rounds… Too bad I forgot my foods..

I saw you emote spamming, but it wasn’t just you. I can’t say for certain who threw down the blueprints, but it was more than one time.

And yes, it is a game where you get to be silly and have a good time. At the same time, though, someone has spent hours motivating, training, and teaching people to do something as a group. Losing isn’t fun, and it is childish to add numerous insults after injury. That’s what gets people kittened off.

Divrocks.5718:

I’m pretty sure we can keep the forum warriors on lockdown, not many people even look at the forums anyways. DDLG has a thing with IoJ and pretty sure it is match-ups like this when the trolls come out to play, too bad they only do it on forums…

You’d be surprised how many lurkers there are reading this thing. And it sure doesn’t appear that you have any sort of lock down on your guild. Either that or your entire guild is full of trolls and you can only keep 95% of them from being kittens both in-game and on the forums. Either way, you are giving yourself a bad reputation.

You know, I was hoping DDLG would have changed a bit more when they hopped servers. Doesn’t look like it. Great job, you beat us in the GvG against a guild that has done 2 practice runs in GvG, including this one.

I went into this GvG with about 2 hours notice that you all wanted to do one. I thought it would be a friendly practice run. Darkestshadows seemed like a laid-back guy that wasn’t going to troll us if we lost.

But while losing, we had people dancing on our corpses, t-bagging us, throwing build sites on our bodies, and representing troll guild names. During all of this your spectators were spamming emotes 90% of the time. If this was a “friendly” match, I wonder what an aggressive match would be like.

Darkestshadows and Bluevalle. You need to realize that pretty much the only side of your guild anyone see’s is the trolls and forum warriors. How many times did DR get focused in WvW because of your forum warriors? How far did IoJ go to take your server down because of your members?

It’s pretty sad that your guild members don’t respect your leadership enough to hold off on the trolling. Pretty much all I’ve seen from you guys is forum warriors and trolls, then a few people saying “don’t lump me in with them”. Well sorry to break it to you, but you’re getting lumped in with them. If you don’t want a bad rep then make another guild or reign in your members.

I just know that if I had guild members doing what yours were doing, they wouldn’t be in CORE anymore. So don’t plan on doing a GvG again with us again. I’ll see you all on the open field again, where I have kicked your kitten with roughly equal numbers before, and I’ll do it again.

And just as a general warning to SBI – DDLG is going to give your server a bad rep, and kitten off other people who will focus you because of them. It might be fine for now when you have better coverage and more people, but I wonder how well it’s going to well it’s going to work when you are in the bottom of the top league and DDLG is trolling high-ranked servers.

lol @ birdsong.

Really though, 1 person could make a pretty big difference over here. We have commanders and leadership, but it isn’t very consistent. If you ever see IoJ close to max PPT, that is when we have a commander on directing things.

You wouldn’t need to be a veteran commander by any means, but rather someone who has had and used their tag at the very least for a few weeks. Someone who would be willing to learn tips and tricks from other people, and someone who could for the most part play WvW daily.

Hope to hear from someone

This is not a thread asking for a full Oceanic guild to switch servers.

Isle of Janthir has a decent Oceanic playerbase, and I am looking to recruit an experienced and consistent Oceanic commander to my guild, [CORE] Company of the Red Elite.

IoJ has a ton of Oceanics, but we have spotty leadership during those times. I am particularly looking for any experienced Oceanic commander that can help organize and command WvW on a (mostly) daily basis.

If you would be interested, either respond here or send me a message in game. And be prepared to answer some questions, because we aren’t looking for someone who bought their tag yesterday

Runamok.9638:

. . . . . .

IOJ at first I thought you had nothing but PUG garbage during NA prime. It seems that you do have a few decent guilds that run. So I almost respect you now. [HARD][CORE] I enjoy you guys. But your ocean playerbase seriously has got a bad case of the no-skill or tactics bred into them from ubiquitous pvdough’in. My favorite was destroying 6 or more golems at SW garrison with a cannon that had no bidness being up given the omega golems that could have destroyed it. Hey there is this cannon killing all the golems…ehhhhh whateva…just keep hitting that gate. There was a break in through the outer…but then deer and the headlights happened because all the golems were dead. I guess there was no adpatability or creativity amongst those 30 dudes. Seems to be a problem with all the ocean crews…same as I saw on SoS/BG.

-One Angry Brotha [IoM]

We do have PUGs during NA primetime; many of them are starting to show up in WvW now that we are winning and building morale. Hopefully we can get some of those new faces a bit better at WvW.

I’m not sure who was leading the ET squad tonight, but very good “zerg dancing”. In the lower-mid tiers, it is hard to find another commander that has a strong grasp of positioning. It’s actually pretty funny when you start getting whispers of “JUST KILL THEM ALREADY!!!” .

I think you would find some of the same stuff on every oceanic / night owl NA crew. I think the challenge of taking defended stuff, as well as having to deal with equal or lesser numbers makes you think about the details a bit more. At any rate, they have a hell of a time doing drunken golem rushes and lol’ing as they take big chunks out of every map.

Shademehr.1397:

Crimson Magdelana.9024:

Just the three who were down in the middle of a gvg to “rez a random necro” (which is still mind blowingly wrong in a GvG setting).

If that “random necro” was who I think it was, then I’m glad as hell that he jumped into the middle of that GvG. All these posts full of whining started about the time that a rather large IoJ zerg took our Bay and proceeded to make a play at several other things.

Our BL was queued and no one could get in to help defend. All you GvG’ers were taking up precious spots.

Just out of curiosity, do you IoJ tend to coordinate your large zerg attacks in someone’s BL, while there are also GvG’s going on simultaneously, on purpose?

At any rate, whoever decided to put a halt to them, thanks.

Nah, I got some people together to hit your borderlands way before I knew there was a GvG going on (which was about 5 minutes before we showed up).

I kind of figured someone would cry on the forums over it. Both some of IoJ’s best and ET’s best were at the GvG, so imo it equalized out. Sounds like you all had more anyway – we didn’t queue the map .

And to your previous post, no, we didn’t choose to hit you because some of you refused an agreement to flip a keep a few times for WXP. We chose to hit you because 1 commander on your server (you?) was pretty rude about the whole thing. I was fine with you all refusing – it was a long shot anyway – but to start name calling and chest thumping when I was just proposing a cooperative WXP farm; that was uncalled for.

And while we may not have taken your entire BL, we did get some good loot bags off of wiping you guys a few times as well as your EB keep and Bay xD. I will have to give that Garrison defense to you, though. I think we kept your keep contested, but it seemed like a lot of people showed up over and over . At any rate, it was definitely fun.

Best of luck to you all, ET.

Hukundu.7628:

sioux.1653:

ET will forever wallow in the lowest ranks because you guys don’t have it together.

And while you’re attacking me, I have a few friends on ET who has concerned moving to other servers like Gom, IoJ, HoD. They see the same things we’ve pointed out here.

And just liek the last time I was against ET (as a GoM commander) you guys are going to turtle after tonight. There wont be an ET force in WvW. Your morale is already so kittenty that the few fairweathers you have will peel away.

If you REALLY care about WvW, then dump ET and go to a real server. You might personally be worth a kitten but you’re casting pearls before swine.

You don’t know our server.

Tempting to say he also hasn’t been paying attention, but I don’t think that’s where this is coming from.

This looks to me like the sort of thing you post when you’re worried about something. Is IoJ losing guilds to ET?

Lol, nope. Look at our scores the past month. We’ve been gaining people / guilds, actually.

I can’t say much about ET. I think we fought you guys about 2 months ago? You seem to be doing better. One thing I can tell you, though, is not to say we only win things because of our oceanic crew. Our NA primetime crew has to go and prove you wrong if we hear that too often .

DR, I understand that many of you are in good WvW guilds or are good roamers. But it doesn’t look like you care at all about your own server morale. While the vocal part of your server may not care about winning a matchup, I can guarantee you that a much bigger % of your server cares about it than you think.

You are good at small-group play, but that is a very small % of your server. You all don’t seem to be showing the ropes to the newer players in your server that check out WvW sometimes.

Most people don’t hop straight into small-group play. You have to motivate people to come into WvW first. That might mean that you run an objective-based pug zerg, because pugs like taking objectives. As more and more people have fun running around in a zerg, they’ll start joining WvW guilds and help fuel your small-group play.

I guess I’m trying to say that if you maintain this “fights > points” mentality 100% of the time, you’re going to start getting drained. Some of your guilds and people that care about points will start leaving. Your pugs will pretty much stop showing up.

So maybe you should start considering how to build server morale. It might mean you start running some horribly unorganized mega-zergs and Lol at having a thousand arrow carts in a camp to kill 3 people. But without server morale, you all are pretty much kittened.

GavinGoodrich.1382:

Sorry bout breaking up the fightclub on IoJ’s map…i’m just a biiiig advocate of not having it on a map that I’m proactively defending/upgrading in the south/patrolling/blah blah blah…..

nothin’ personal, guys <3

I’ll just throw out there that I support Nom in breaking up the fight club. I think fight clubs are great fun and all, but when the people that the fight club attracts start to go around and flip all of the camps, then I think whoever’s BL it is is 100% justified in breaking it up.

Natar.3671:

AggieTechGuy.4901:

Once again good fights tonight NSP and SF.

Although I will say the skill lag tonight made things slightly less enjoyable. Those fights in SM lords room we were just telling people to autoattack only.

And holy kitten [Os]. How many people did you have at Durios / Umber during our fights there? I know not all of them were just you, but you can sure field a large number of organized people.

Some of us were there to test whether farming zergs is better than the new champion farms or CP. Results have been inconclusive so far, further testing is required

Would be pretty awesome if you guys figured that one out . I wouldn’t mind having some data to show to our biggest PvE guilds tbh. In my experience, many GW2 players have the mindset that you spend more money on repair costs than you get in WvW.

It might be a waste of time, though. I’ve heard the patch in 2 days is supposed to nerf champion farming. I hope they take WvW into consideration whenever they do the nerf. If it drops to a “1 champion per day” rule and they apply it to WvW, it would kind of suck.

Once again good fights tonight NSP and SF.

Although I will say the skill lag tonight made things slightly less enjoyable. Those fights in SM lords room we were just telling people to autoattack only.

And holy kitten [Os]. How many people did you have at Durios / Umber during our fights there? I know not all of them were just you, but you can sure field a large number of organized people.

Phenona.9457:

I would LOVE (and other as well) to know how this SF guy got to the top of this tower, with all those supplies and build a treb, a cata and a superior arrow cart….

Many of our guys tried to find a way up but were unable…even if they could get up there, how would he be able build all this solo?

Location: Ruins outside Blue Keep in EB

That would be what we call the “Tower of Doom”. We’ve used it several times when we are in the blue corner, but haven’t had much of a need for it right now. It is a pretty good spot to use, but 1 treb / mortar from the blue keep can knock just about everyone off of it.

If you’re on the blue team, you can use it to take back QL or the blue keep, and I believe you can treb SM from it if you angle it just right.

If you get up about 1/3 of the way, many professions can use their pull skill to yank them off too.

Really fun reset night everyone

Good fights with [Os] tonight in NSP BL. Too bad you guys had to go to sleep eventually :\ .

And really good defense on your EB keep tonight SF. Those arrow carts on the roof of the lords room slayed many pugs

TeamBattleAxe.3901:

Did anyone get photos/video from the [ASH] mini-golem rush?

Here’s a pic from the IoJ point of view. Sadly I forgot to screenshot as we gate-bombed your golem rush.

Great week everyone

@GoM

Up until about Wednesday morning I was still expecting a GoM horde to ascend from the gates of hell. Last matchup you guys did really well, and the one before it you stomped SF. Did the PvE patch really mess with you guys?

While I doubt you all were perpetually outnumbered, you did seem to lack the same “MEGAZERG INC INC INC!!! GOLEMS HALP! ~screams and white noise~” flare that you had before.

Good fights though. I tried to only really hit you guys after CoSA logged out for the night. You had some really good “last stand’s” in EB around 12 – 1 AM server time.

@SF

I have to give it to you guys – when you guys are organized you’re pretty kitten good. The sheer number of decently organized people in CoSA was scary.

Last night though after we took your corner in EB, we went to your borderlands. You owned almost everything for hours, but all of your towers were paper. In your keeps you had no defensive siege. I was just surprised by the lack of defense you all had in your BL. I also felt kind of bad for the 3 people that were there as we golem rushed everything :\ .

Something I also noticed with you all is that when CoSA isn’t in WvW, you guys really drop off. I’m sure you have other good commanders and guilds, but it seems to be a problem that most of your good WvW players are all in the same guild. When the leadership of CoSA logs off, 90% of your organized numbers log out too.

Oh and whoever the CoSA commander was that me and my guild laughed at yesterday. There was no hard feelings there . We were just trying to kitten you off enough that you would be focused on ogrewatch while our main force retook our corner and prepped for impact. It seemed to work, you guys steamrolled us with 60 vs 15, lol.

All in all, I was really happy with this matchup. This is the first time in a while for IoJ where all 3 servers seemed decently balanced. In other matchups, we were generally matched with one really strong server and one relatively weak server, which made it mostly a 1v1 with the stronger server at the time.

rcelbrechter.8947:

I saw a few failed attempts on our keep over the last week by the likes of the mighty Isle group. I will say when you guys wipe you do it all out which I admire (not being sarcastic). All things in life need to be done with full effort win, lose, or otherwise.

Thanks . I can’t speak for everyon, but I don’t particularly like drawing out an attempt to fastcap a keep. If we get it good, but if we don’t we shouldn’t mosey around for 15 minutes. May as well respawn and do something else.

Alright, I get it. You’re angry.

I vaguely remember you all doing something 10x worse, though. Do the pictures look familiar? I believe that was something like 80 golems.

Want to consider it even ?

One time while I was commanding in EB, we had the blue corner. During this time, we were in a very unbalanced matchup, and our keep was golem rushed. I knew it was coming, so I built so much siege it wouldn’t let me build anymore.

While many of us were building siege, 90% of our population in EB got bored. So they decided to attack the grub. About midway through combat on the grub, the golem rush came. Hordes of golems were knocking on the keep gates, yet no matter how much I spammed chat, IoJ wanted the grub.

We lost our keep during that golem rush, and only had about 3 arrow carts manned as they entered our keep. Then just before my allies killed the grub, our enemies jumped down and wiped them.

Many times I have been asked to kill the grub. It became a point of contention – something I would never ever do again. After people asked so many times, I told them, “If we capture ALL of EB, I will bring everyone to kill the grub.” At this point in time, it was very unlikely to happen.

So apologies SF and GoM. As more and more people got in their heads that we would kill the grub, we gained momentum. I don’t think I’ve ever seen IoJ as a whole play more skilled or work the hardest to get all of EB tonight. After months of them asking and me telling them no, they really wanted to kill that kitten grub.

Once we capped all of EB tonight, we omega rushed the grub and flashbuilt rams on it for “moar damage”.

Thank you GoM for not interrupting our omega rush on the grub . No hard feelings

RedPanda.7286:

vincecontix.1264:

Kcrook.3945

Hahah yes I know they were pretty bad kept filling up my inventory and made me feel like a boss taking them all out. I also know that [Bags] has good players and I always expect a good fight when I vs you guys. Oh and yes pugs jeez! I total agree they can be so annoying….

Most of the people that fight for IoJ every week are pugs in CORE and HARD’s eyes. It’s frustrating to get yelled at for “pugs not listening” in map chat when I’m the only one on the map on the commander, including all the CORE and HARD people that have run off to pvdoor. I respect your guilds’ contributions to wvw, but our server is mostly pugs, whereas we’re fighting servers with very established wvw guilds. You have to respect the fact that most of us pugs that play lots of wvw contribute way more to wvw than all the CORE people that have spent all week in the pve world getting those achievement points. Honestly, where did CORE go this week? I haven’t seen a CORE commander all day.

I respect HARD. Your guild is great, and you do great things for IoJ. But give credit where it’s due. TEST, PNOY, TRIBO, AR contribute almost as much to our server as you guys, even if you guys like to claim all the credit here on the forums.

First off, if you are actually listening then you aren’t a “pug” and any complaints don’t apply to you. And if someone from my guild is publicly yelling at people for being pugs and not listening, then let me know who it is. I doubt they’ll be in the guild for much longer.

Secondly, CORE took DH’s keep over the weekend and motivated enough people to hold it for a lot longer than we should have been able to. And the reason you haven’t seen a CORE commander on is probably because we have been running without commander tags. We have been forming smaller guild squads to support the active commander, a flank here, a tower ninja there. And I personally was commanding / defending our BL for 2-3 hours last night.

HippoLogic.2519:

Lol again we faced higher tier severs they never cried zoom hack just quit it already.

HippoLogic meet Grimno:

Grimno.6172:

KinkyGiraffe.4123:

Grimno.6172:

Tukmolytes.3467:

What is ZL? Zoomlock?

Yup.

Lots of reports/screenshots coming in of IOJ AC’s spotting, attacking and hitting elevated locations and seige DIRECTLY from places they shouldn’t be able to, or shouldn’t even be able to see.

LOTS, of reports.

Feel free to send these screenshots to an IoJ member so we can make these “accusations” public on our forums and start naming and shaming

That is assuming theyre legit

Speak to a member of Abyss. They have the pics, I can’t access the website gallery they linked in TS3 as I’m not a member.

We also had an incident with a thief in Klovan even though the walls/gate was up, but we believe he was already in there since he was able to cloak quite a long time.

Not really sure what’s going on.
Some SS’s should be that our Inner Keep’s staircase was being hit by AC’s located down by the Watergate. Among others.

I think you two will like each other

“CORE: Causing dissension within enemy ranks since . . . June.”

(P.S. I can still show you I wasn’t zoomhacking in the WG of your keep)

Avalanche.5321:

Ynot.8397:

torridstoic.7492:

AggieTechGuy.4901:

DH, what are you guys doing? I understand it’s fun to come out strong on a reset, but you do realize that you’re going to make both FC and IoJ just want to give up, right? I’m not to keen on an essential 1v1 with DH because you demoralized FC enough to where they don’t show up at all. You keep going at this rate, and nobody is going to be in WvW. Do you really need to capture all of EB, all of FC’s BL, and have half of our BL? If you keep it up, I think you’re going to have an entire week of absolutely nothing.

Look at Millenium. We’re projected to lose 56k at this rate. So yes, we really do need to “capture all of EB, all of FC’s BL and have half of your BL.”

Welcome to WvW.

To be fair the number is always higher the day after reset. You are losing all of your points to IoJ anyhow. Stomp IoJ and you won’t lose nearly as many points.

They won’t go for IOJ simply because we have a smaller server population. They can roll out 3 giant zergs all at once, all day long, like the video above…how many is that attacking our keep for how long ? They kept coming over, and over after that, too. Until we got bored, and left, at which point they finally took it.

All the while they had a zerg running around in our BL, while IOJ was all green, because they knew we didn’t have the population to stop them, but IOJ did, so they just took our stuff, and ran their zerg back to wipe IOJ if they attacked blue.

All in all, though, considering how often we’ve been wiping these servers, and considering we are Tier 8 facing Tier 5, I can only look forward to a population boost that will rocket us to the top.

Based off of that video, looks like it was just DH pugs hitting your keep anyway. I can’t believe they stayed there that long with so much more numbers than you guys had, lol. You would think 1-2 of them might come up with the bright idea of running up the wall / stacking where you ran into the keep rather than building AC’s and ballistas.

IoJ would appreciate you not encouraging them to stomp us, thank you very much :P

I do feel bad for you guys though; this roll sucks for you. I wasn’t commanding in EB tonight, but I will be tomorrow. Let’s focus on DH. If we both keep on the offensive, we might be able to hold our corners, lol. It’s in both of our best interests. If you get pushed out of EB, that means we get the full-force of baghaven on us (not fun).

On a side note, keep outta meh camp!