Guild Wars 2

I cannot even understand the concept behind arrow carts. If a siege weapon is created as a “counter players” and then made strong enough to do what its supposed to do it has to be OP. The whole idea behind this is stupid: A weapon that counters everyone: Drop build site, put supplys into it, win fight…. You might wanna introduce some player skills that counter players, too. Just to make small scale encounters less stale. 360+ AoE Skills with 2k dps on 1 sounds just fine to me. LOL

So what i did today after capturing the northwest and northeast tower of an opposing server with my raid is that i put 3 persons in each tower giving them 1 superior ballista and 2 superior carts for each tower. The enemy had to treb the tower with 30+ people, because they couldnt set up rams of the carts, and couldnt set up catas because of the ballistas. Those 3 people forced a whole zerg to stand around doing nothing. I had tons of time comming over to clean up. Sounds decent.

Better remove AC’s. I wouldn’t miss them. If you don’t, please just give guilds other options than WvW for mid-large scale PvP. Afterall, your doing your best to drive WvW into other directions.

Sadly this topic will die uncommented by anet after being moved to suggestions. I don’t think it will get quite the attention in here.

In EU T1 we hold castles for a couple hours with 10-15 people against 70. 7-8 superior carts per door and good countertrebbing might help you.

As stated before in this thread(!!), the glicko system isn’t about total points but point ratios comparing to the other servers.

Oresh.4729:

if the score depend on how many players are online, the strat will stack one time zone and have 0 people in the others. sure win!

bad idea

Because that way you have 16 hours of no primetime where other server can still get 66% of total points while you might tick with 0? And during primetime you need to take castles with waypoints back which might take you ages..besides during your primetime if the enemy is barely there you’d get maybe 40-50% potential points and might be able to tick with +250 or sth? Spent some more time before judging

Jade Sea/ Vizu Square will throw massive amounts of bodies at you whenever you try to get a supply camp near respawn. They die mindlessly and come back like zombies until you drown in the masses of dead bodies. If you remove repair costs you reward a playstyle like that…
No respawn timer is sad enough.

Someone mentioned there could be a problem because “each persons time should have the same value”. That isn’t a contradiction with this system. Assuming 600 players per server each player in the matchup increases the potential points gained by 1/1800. I’d rather say it improves the system to a point where the value of each players time is MORE equal than before.

Besides: Assuming on server sets up a raid of 100 people during night, while the other two combined only have 50 people…that’s might be only 58/695 points per tick overall BUT the advantage of upgraded enemy castles (if they take them over) will benefit them, when larger forces fight to get them back after the night. At that moment they will tick huge points for every minute holding those castles, rewarding them big times for what few players worked for earlier. The attacking servers during prime time actually has time pressure because they need to be FAST recapping when they have larger forces…

love it. Don’t understand how some people can’t.

Do not think Jade Sea is anything different from Vizu. They might have 20% less active players but they mindlessly blob. They get destroyed during the day, but when the night comes they start maphopping with a hundred people at 3 am, crushing castles with 2 defenders using 15 golems…

Fights are decided by Coordination,CC, Conditions and Boons. Not damage. Run zerker if you like losing fights.

This patch is basically a nerf to Elona Reach. We spent so many times explaining stuff to casuals, and they listen. Last few months we were able to ninja keeps despite having 40+ random people from different guilds grouped together. Everyone would just wait for 4 people to clear the guards, build some rams and chill together. Gonna miss this exciting feeling to see everyone is pulling themselves together for the team :-(

The sad thing about this is pretty obvious, atleast for europe:
The system being stable does not mean that the matchups are balanced now. The gap in ratings just prevents some server to drop which belong to lower tiers and the other way round…

You taught us a valuable lesson there. We had tons of fun nevertheless and took a lot of things with us to work on, until next time. Thanks for the great sportsmanship.

Phoebe Ascension.8437:

elona wth are you doing? […]

We’re busy defending against both of your servers for the last 13 hours on Deso/vizu borderlands cuz you don’t really seem to care much about each other. Ask your raidleads why vizu isn’t focussed despite being first :P

Good fights on Deso BL at hillkeep just now. Though deso seems to help vizu all day, by trying to kill our golems that are attacking vizu keep n such >_< Not much of a smart move :P

Had tons of fun leading on Vizu Borderlands today between 19 and 23pm CET. I kinda had to focus on you SFR guys since Vizu didnt put up much of a resistance on the top half of the map. Props to ZDs, you guys are by far the scariest opponent to face in this matchup. Gonna have to improve infight tactics to win against you in the open field.

Though…the door to your spawn tower was open for about an hour. Why didn’t you bother taking it back? :-P

Romek.4201:

ye we recruited alot

some oversea help from our german colony Malorca and Rügen

This was a joke in case someone didn’t notice.
Elona never actively recruited and because of our language it’s not possible for us to recruit different timezones anyway. Few players from other german servers might have transfered but it’s definitly a minority that’s not causing the difference.

Many people start to regain fun and startet playing all night long after seeing our improvements and current state in the matchup. It’s probably temporary because I got the feeling deso and arbor are suffering more from the xmas holidays. Compared to older days our ques are short, even in primetime. However, I’m happy with the development, hopefully most of the players will keep playing even if things get worse someday!

About Elonaplayers QQing if you guys try to recurit oversea guilds: Don’t take it personally. Since we don’t have the possibility to recruit players for our nights it always feels like a punch in the face if you get steamroled by nightzergs from oversea. If anything is to blame it’s the system, not you. Though, you should atleast understand that people get angry about it and don’t get too mad at us for complaining

We gonna try even harder next time =) Thanks for the nice evening and the friendly posts afterwards. We should try to keep that attitude up, that would lead to a lot more fun afterall.
If we don’t happen to meet again best wishes for your matches next week.

22 People in my raid, we got stomped pretty hard by VII :-P We got the other piken raid that was running around a couple times though

Tudesday, 8pm CET. I’ll pm you the borderlands cuz im afraid we will have hours of que otherwise. Other big elona WvW guilds would try to join too if they know you guys gonna be there and going to give us good fights.

This isn’t meant as a provocation at all, if someone looks at it like this. I just felt like fighting the good guilds of piken, rather than random zerglings.
If we get crushed, well played. If we crush you guys, we won’t brag about it

Elona isn’t disrespectful. Hellawaits is pretty much the player who’s constantly trolling. Those players that actually make elona strong are not the ones you see posting here.
Fact is, a winning server leads pve players into joining wvw. Your raids stomping them doesn’t mean elona has no strong raids/guilds themselves.
I won’t deny that there are strong guilds in kodash/piken in between those randoms. You shouldn’t do so either. If you don’t believe me, we might show you. I’ll set up a raidtime for tuesday for my guild and will post it here later this day. Probably piken borderlands. Gonna see about that and post it, too. Make sure you show up, so all of us can enjoy some good fights

greets, asyira [aegis]. Oh, btw. we might join forces with reno since we’re raiding rather often together

BB Bordlerands was fun today :> Reno and Aegis Raid started 3 1/2 hours ago, 1 hour ago (like shortly after the first time you set up a treb in hills) we went down from 50 to 30 ppl while your forces seem to grow larger and larger. No way to stop that 60+ SFR people consisting of almost all known SFR guilds. Hills just got lost a minute ago, guess it’s over for today :-( Anyway, wp.

Elona’s mesmer got there on a regular way, when we first opened the castle, no exploits involved. I don’t really know what happened in the central garrision, I hope your takeover was as legit as ours and we can stop insulting us right now and enjoy the match.

The main issue is not the que time itself, it’s that some people who start queing AFTER you will be on the map BEFORE you.
It would also help a lot if you knew how long you’d have to wait. During primetime a lot of servers have long que times, not only the most populated ones.

Raydaq.5421:

Did you transfer to JQ?

I’m playing on Elona Reach so EU not US I’ve been playing there for sometime but since we advanced from #12 to currently #3 in the ranking a lot of people started transfering from other servers which made que times a lot worse.

You might laugh but since the presence of Anet mods is a lot higher here than in our forums (really low >> none ;-) ) I felt like posting here instead.

Transfering to another server is out of question if I want to stay with all the friends if have on my server. Also, fights are really fun in the first bracket…if you manage to join the map that is

It is extremly frustrating some players wait 3hours to join that map while others wait 30 minutes at the same time.
I just don’t understand the reason for us not having a normale que with approximated waiting time, number of players before oneself in que and a system that actually allows the person that waited the longest to join first.
Is a decent que so complicated to implement?
Que times and higher transparency on highly populated servers are the most urgent issues for WvW overall.
A response from Anet would be needed but is rare to be seen, sadly.