Guild Wars 2

No need to read anything other then first post.
There are 2 possible options
1: you must be a total noob who just began to play, or a pve brainless carebear
2: you are a troll who tries to frame

Don’t get why using druid over mm. Break stun and cleanse with f5 is great but not so worth it for a longbow ranger

I’ve played thief since beta. I agree with you. Thief is well balanced, no need for huge buff, but there must be some balancing for some of the new classes. Guardian cannot spam a penetrating arrow, which deal more damage then backstab, and usable every 4 seconds, from 1200, it’s a bit too much.

Speaking about roles, daredevil’s new dash-dodge helps us a lot for moving even faster trought the map, without being killed most of the times. If the fight 2vs2 is going bad, u just leave before getting killed and by the time they kill the other one, you’re already on another point, maybe ganking in a 1vs1,as a +1
As a conparison with dota and moba games, thief is the 4th position (jungler). He must stay alive and help everyone.

Still, some balance is needed on thr other classes, too kittening dh and pretty brainless reaper, nor tried chrono yet

Scoobaniec.9561:

akaCryptic.2389:

Especially now that they want less of low risk high reward builds.

<Looking at stealth> Kitten i can spam it while being blinded/blocked/evades as much as i want and it wont reveal me! So gut.

<Looking at turret engineer> I will just sit down on a point and everyone will avoid me otherwise they just melt to my turrets while im watching a movie. I risk loosing that 5sec of movie by alt tab to gw so my build should be rewarding.

<Looking at cele classes> Sustain of a bunker along with damage of a zerker? Why not?

And tge diagnosis is…. A l2p issue, as always

It’s not good, much better a 60206 if i have to use that. Btw venom builds is not that bad, i kinda had fun with it

want to try something like this
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fZAQNAoYVlsMpypFOx7J8PNBNRsdVXI31xzaFA-TpBEwAGOBAYLDka/BAHCgHHBACPAAA

or like this
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fZAQNAqYVlsMpopNNx5J8PNRMB5ZXGj2HYBBozrMYA-TJxHwABeEAGLDA4MA8Z/BA

they will probably suck, but I won’t believe it till I see it! :p

witcher.3197:

Reece.7341:

witcher.3197:

Lamuness.3570:

So I was thinking about this, say for example, I just wanted to roam, +1 fights, and gank the crap out of people in sPvP, what would I run? Assuming I don’t care about capping the points.

5/6/0/0/3 D/D? I don’t like standing on the point for fear of AoE bombs that can be dropped from at least 900 range away.

No. D/D is horrible for tPvP and any PvP thief build without 6 points in the last trait line sucks. What you need is D/P

I believe the OP’s point was that he was tired of the same D/P builds…

Ahh sorry completely zoned out. Well, what he described as a playstyle is exactly what D/P offers, he could try S/D too but I think he wants to keep the stealth play however D/D is just bad.

i’d just like to refresh my thief. A viable condi build would be great, or something like a valkyrie/shadow arts/Hidden Killer, something to make my opponents think “wtf? how is this thief specced? O.o”

Would you all be so kind to post a link to gw2skill with an actual build to discuss this in a concrete way?

Rytlok use pistol oh in cof story

For pvp. Tried to play with amateur builds but it seems executioneer, panic strike and s/d are the only viable

Well said dduff! You made me cry T.T
Joking aside, thief is a great class but there should be other viable builds, executioneer and panic strike are too close to be considered different builds, and s/d should have much more love, condi thief too. That’s the problem

S/D is tooooo long to learn well, tried when it was meta but it needs a totally different approach. Tried executioneer in unranked , which i used to be last year, and I farmed prople! But still quite boring since the mechanic is quiet the same.

What about p/d condi? Is it so bad cheesy?

Hello guys, how you doing?

I don’t usually post on this forum, even if i play my thief since the beta, cause it’s…pretty boring, some guide, lot of cries and so on, nothing exciting usually.

So, i’ve returned to play since a couple of months by now, after a 6 months break, and i’ve used the classic panic strike build all this time.

I’m a bit bored, 80% of thieves are panic strike user and that makes me sad

I’d like to find something different to use, maybe not optimized like PS build but at least usable.

Tought about a valkyrie hidden killer d/d, or maybe putting in a celestial somehow

Any idea out there?

Puck.9612:

That’s a terrible example. If you are already fighting and get blindsided by any zerk player the results will be the same. Having to press 1 or 2 extra buttons isn’t as big of a challenge as people try to make it out to be.

yeah, okay, u misunderstood.
LB rangers are too braindead, that’s what i meant.
it’s not a matter of opness, it’s a matter of balancing.
If i stay far away and just press 521111521115211 there’s something wrong.

I know that u need GS too and whatever but there will be many situations where you’ll just sit on a rock and shoot arrows.
If there’s a TF mid, at temple, you’ll probably do that.

The class is just not used in competitive since a single grd wall would destroy all those noob LB rangers who just spam skills, killing themselves, but in a pug, this won’t happens everytime, and 2 LB rangers, with a bunker holding a point, will destroy lighter classes without so much effort.

I repeat, i used to play my ranger a lot, it was my second character, and i’ve played it since beta, but nowdays ranger is just a braindead skill spammer, like thief was. Do you need personal skill to achieve better results? ofc! but if a noob tries to use an ele, he will be wrecked apart, if i give him a ranger he could still do a lot, and that shouldn’t happen.

The class should be nerfed in some ways and buffed in some other.
I don’t know, maybe buff his damage but slow every skill, make stealth last longer, or maybe make it usable without a target, but shrink the AoE.
There would be so many cool things to make this class (and expecially this build) awesome, but i know we have to wait soooo long to get them

ps: same with SB rangers, too much bleeding with just autoattack, it’s boriiiiiiiing

Rangers are not OP, they are just bad-balanced. People don’t need high skill to get good results against other classes, especially in tf.
I don’t say the class should be nerfed, it should be balanced, nerfed in some aspects and buffed in some other.
If i’m fighting 1vs1, then a ranger come to +1 and kill me just by pressing 2 and 5, there something wrong, cause early every other class have to toil more to achieve the same result.
I really really would like to use my ranger as i was used to, but the most used build are so boring.

I’d like to have spirit ranger back, or a beastmaster build, or even a LB ranger, with a more difficult build, which reward player skill more.

got a better idea, why don’t we just delete the class?
cause by now thieves are in the worse then any class in figthing.
Sure, we can run away, decap and run in no time, but, speaking about fighting, we are kittens. In a 5vs5 we are dead in few seconds, we can just spike and run, spike and run.
In 1vs1 it is a pain to defeat maaaaany builds.
I love my thief, i’m playing with him since beta, but it’s much more easy to play every other class, except maybe ele, who gave me a bit of time to get how to play it well.

whoever say thieves are op, well, l2p guys…

@Darksyze: wtf are u talking about? who gives a kitten about thief definition? it’s an amazing class, the only one that fill his concept role 100%

Is anyone else gone mad cause of this new blink mechanic? a mechanic who destroys itself, making teleport half usefull then before and, for the poor souls forced to still using blinks, a pain?
“Let’s blink on my enemy’s face!”….nope, there is a rock on the ground, stay there and die….hurray!
I don’t understand why Anet hates its game, and expecially pvp, so much, trying with every single patch to destroy it, and many times succeding in doin it.
Speaking about blinking, I’d like so much a rollback, without this nonsense update…

what do u guys think about?

So. I’ve seen ROM pkaying with a build like this

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fJAQJARTjMdUFahHmhwJaAmgCZnPBHjgAQdV85LBA-TpBHwAAuAAGeAACOEABOCAl2fAZZAA

And it looked quite good after some try. I tried to get a personalized version and it seems a bit better. What do you think about it?

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fJAQJARTjMdUFahHmhwJagfgC9t3CHuxAYAUOHxBA-TZhFwAAuAASLDY4JAAb/hDHCAA

With the right timing of “sigil of intelligence” CD, GS F1 and LB 3# can really burst your damage quite good, taking much more damage then a zerker, close to an hambow.

Opinions?

I haven’t played thief for a while to be honest, i’m currently playing ranger and warrior more.
I’m ok that every class COULD (not must) have a way to semi-counter thief stealth. Ranger got a shout to directly prevent stealth, warrior got aoe stun, which have a chance to not let him run away/ress people.

Yeah, i want to nerf today warrior and buff other kind of builds, like conditioner for example.
Hammer, in my opinion, should be a bunker weapon, not a zerker one, so nerf their damage and give, dunno, weakness in trade.

Berserker stance, again, is a nonsense skill, too usefull to trade it with whatever on warrior skill list, that’s not fair. I’d remove the adrenaline gain or reduce the stance duration.

I don’t want to nerf it to the ground. I repeat again: i love my warrior, i paid 800 gems to obtain phalanx armor just because of him. I’d love to see a bit more difficulty to achieve the best from this class.

You are so easy to flame guys xD
I repeat for the third time: Warrior is my second character, i got 8 kittening characters but, when i’m frustrated cause of 3 loses in a row or something like that i just log in my hambow or axe/shield and play totally relaxed, cause there nothing to care too much.
I’m not whining because i can’t kill warriors, with thief and ranger (my other 2 “mains”) it’s pretty easy most of the times. I just hate op characters, so i play warrior less day by day.

Speaking about survivability….we got a 5 sec no direct damage skill, another one with trait, 5 seconds with shield, one attack with mace and one with sword. We can cleanse condition as raining and got a skill which make us immune to them for 10 s. You said thief could stealth and refill, losing one condition every 3 seconds….since we can’t hold or cap a point while in stealth it’s pretty meh compared to warrior.

Fact is, warrior are not that unbelievably op but they are just brainless. If D/P thief are low risk high reward warrior are no risk at all with high reward.
A full zerker warrior will always survive much better then majority of classes with zerker spec.

About the title, it was and invite for all warriors bored about their class to expose some idea (and wanted to troll :p)
-I would personally nerf berserker stance firstly. It’s stupid to make a skill so usefull to be a must in every kind of build.

-In second place i’d reduce hammer damage. It already chain stun, damage shouldn’t be so high.

-A good thing would be to change sword bleeding mechanics also.
Insted of long weak bleedings I’d insert short bleedings with an higher damage.

-Regen is still too high. Thre is no risk to be interrupt during regen, and if u have to use the healing you will probably die aswell, since it cures very little. No risk-high reward still.

Peace :*

I care very much to say i’m playing a warrior as my second character, even if I play with all classes.
I’m guessing since a while: why this class got the most high hp pool, highest armor and can still crit 7-8k with just a single fuc*ing hit (axe f1 or sword 3) while a thief must risk everytime to land a backstab, for example?

Is it done on purpose to make necromancer and warrior so much easier and so much stronger then the other classes?
I mean, why have i to focus warriors always by lasts cause they are kittening hard to kill and still getting a lot of damage by them?
Is it so hard to nerf them? dunno, maybe removing that nonsense of berserker stance, or maybe nerfing axe and hammer damage.

Warrior is officially the kitten class by now, no need to care too much about what’s going on around me, i just need to push buttons when cd goes down.

I repeat, warrior is my second character, but this bullkitten is just lame and totally nonsense. Is there any other warrior wanting to be nerfed except me???

Hello Everyone.
Since i’ve always wanted to build a bunker build for my warrior I tried to build it up on that way this evening.

That’s the build
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vIAQNAS5ejMdUAaVImhQHaAB94KADBUVAPSPCjBcNA-TsAgzCoIMSZkzIjRSjsGN+Y9xGBA

But i feel not that bunker like some few warrior i’ve seen bunkering in last days.
What’s wrong with this build? should I build shour or what? i read shout specced warriors suck, then what should i do to improve my bunker?

Ty for any tip