Guild Wars 2

Wing 4 Hype bump!

Beautiful. I will be eagerly waiting for the next installment.

Check us out when you can, I think we can be a match:
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/community/lookingfor/NA-Fractals-Dungeons-LOD-Legion-of-Doom

I use the option “Lock Ground Target at Maximum Skill Range” under options to make blinking easier. No macro was used, promise.

And as Ted said, we operated under the assumption that the 2nd alpha door blink is identical to the bone wall portal used on Dnt/Hawt’s last Arah path 2 record and whoever did the record before them. Think it was qT but I am not sure.

Legion of Doom
Crucible of Eternity

Path 1:
Mesmer: Aysln ~ Ather: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5K74cOm4TA
Warrior: Animus Infernim ~ Fayour: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAp26CofHCI
Thief: Dàrkstar ~ Darkstar: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5sMik_azK4A&feature=youtu.be
Elementalist 1: Swaggerdactyl ~ David: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMZgssurN1U
Elementalist 2: Mini Ray ~ Rayons: No PoV

Date: 7/22/15
Build: 50837
Time: 6:06

Path 2:

Guardian: Ather ~Ather: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsHeMrtXjDw
Warrior: Animus Infernim ~ Fayour: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bR3dagJaUs
Thief: Dàrkstar ~ Darkstar: No PoV
Elementalist 1: Swaggerdactyl ~ David: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4K4_C5Y9mA
Elementalist 2: Mini Ray ~ Rayons: No PoV

Date: 7/12/15
Build: 50837
Time: 7:44

Expect a new p2 soon, upon reflection we can shave off a lot but we want to get this out.

Path 3:
Mesmer: Aysln ~ Ather: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NddZLzGTGaY
Warrior: Animus Infernim ~ Fayour: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHJfIOstTk4
Thief: Dàrkstar ~ Darkstar: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cTCVF1j7v8
Elementalist 1: Chazua ~ Chaz: https://youtu.be/APBUN-yZiyQ
Elementalist 2: Mini Ray ~ Rayons: No PoV

Date: 7/25/15
Build: 50837
Time: 7:51

Cheers!

Nice thief, he looks like a guardian to me. hehehe

Mesmer AND Guardian?!?!?
Very nice run, gratz!

Teq does have a crit spot, it is just further back. Best way to describe the spot is directly beneath his belly, behind his arms when he is idle.

NikeEU.7690:

It’s all moot come Tuesday as PS warrior wont be much of a DPS loss at all, I would expect to see a lot more of them.

Where did they say the specialization patch would be Tuesday? I thought they said “next patch” which could mean any time between now and HoT launch. Not trying to be snarky but would like to know where, the Go Home to LA post did not say Tuesday.

Ghotistyx.6942:

The duration of FmW could be one second. Is 1s effect on 30s CD too spammy for you?

That would make FMW completely useless.

I wonder what the ETA is on these changes if they are going to happen. I think the tome changes would be a great improvement but I think “Feel My Wrath” should have a 45 sec cooldown, any less I think would be too spam able for both PvE and sPvP.

Yeah the new load times are ridiculous, it literally just took me 1 min to load into LA. My usual time is about 10 seconds. Is there a way to turn off streaming to return load times to pre-patch?

I have never gotten this issue before but in the past 2 hours I have gotten it no less then 8 times, 4 of which were on character select, 3 times on teq with minimum graphics settings and once during a fractal. Does this have anything to do with the required streaming content thing that has been implemented?

I would really like to some screenshots or vids of this.

LOD – Legion of Doom

Guardian : Ted (Staff Guard) : http://youtu.be/NidM_oDes-s
Thief : Josh (Im A Terrible Thief) : http://youtu.be/9iwzx3JF2mg
Warrior : Salty (Salty Brolaf) : http://youtu.be/DDVfo7eDCdQ
Elementalist 1 : Leon (Leon Paroyxsm) : http://youtu.be/8Wsz-QofGDE
Elementalist 2 : Ather (Blazing Jive) : http://youtu.be/_Q-CKhc0tIQ (Timer and build here)

Dungeon: Ruined City of Arah Path 4
Restricted Time: 18m 48s [Restricted and All Time]
Game Build: 45,976
Day: 8th March, 2015

There were way too many level ups in this run…. No black lion key either

PS: Guardian >> Mesmer
Edit: Can’t spell for pupping piglet.
Edit 2: Added last two PoV’s

This is a little late but…..

Guardian: Ted (Staff Guard): http://youtu.be/5pCweGZsMnQ
Ele1: Subi (Subii): No PoV
Ele2: ZZero (Jawtooth Bloodclaw): No PoV
Mesmer: Enko (Hel Hecate): http://youtu.be/VIZ_uKZFu5Y [Timer Here]
Warrior: David (Spam Hundred Blades): No PoV

Fractal: Cliffside Fractal
Restricted Time: 10m 52s [Restricted and Current Meta]
Game Build: 45,075
Day: 19th February, 2015

Guardian: Ather (Ather) : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGd300HXRLM
Ele1: Ted (Incendio Regina): http://youtu.be/Z3k0i7tcxL4
Ele2: David (Sum Ding Wong): No PoV
Ele3: Enko (Rhea Megera): http://youtu.be/RTUAyyUC85A [Timer here]
Warrior: Zzero (Waylyn): No PoV

Fractal: Molten Boss Fractal
Restricted Time: 2m 34s [Restricted and All Time]
Game Build: 45,456
Day: 22th February, 2015

Guardian: Ted (Staff Guard): No PoV
Thief: Subi (Sübi): http://youtu.be/yCsmMziMfmk
Elementalist: Leon (Leon Paroxysm): http://youtu.be/W3AqYanNKSg
Elementalist: Ather (Blazing Jive): http://youtu.be/QFGFxF0xHDM
Warrior: Nooj (Nooj Saibot): No PoV

Dungeon : Honor of the Waves Path 3
Restricted Time : 5 min 25 sec
Game Build : 45,075
Day : 14th February 2015

Don’t know what you mean, the spider queen is still pretty easy. You can still safely kill her with 3 people running dps meta assuming you bait the 1st venom spray but I am sure even that is not necessary. It’s the p2 part with Detha and the traps that concerns me when it comes to pugs in AC.

Broadicea.8294:

3W/1G/1M isn’t the most optimal comp but it’s probably the most efficient in terms of effort/clear time, not to mention real world time spent learning the classes. If you don’t like it, up thine game and bring ranger/engie/ele/whatever would be the most optimal for that content and claim the record. the record will speak for itself.

Agreed. From what I have seen class stacking promotes fast casual speed runs with players of mixed skill, however records are made by the most experienced players using multiple professions optimally

Well, 95% of the time when I down, its my own piggleting fault, even those times when it is someone else’s “job” to save/protect/aegis me, I should have been capable of dodging or getting out of the way, even if i have to go out of my way to do so. The other 5%, when alpha crystals me or a dead eye pierces someone else and hits me, I just go “oh well” and carry on.
P.S. Since this appears to be a lagg contest, my average ping is ~500 ms. I think I do just fine.

Honestly I am a little on the fence with FGS but I think not using it would both promote better gamplay by the community and be more entertaining for people to watch. I see records as a way to weigh my skills against people with proof that they are the best, and lets face it, the fastest runs (not lupi kills, I don’t particularly care how fast you can kill a boss) don’t use FGS anyways and using fiery rush does not show much in terms of player skill but I guess it does show strategy. I guess why not, go ahead and use FGS for records, I am probably biased against it because I have seen too many good players become bad because of it.

I would not count so much on LOD either, they have maybe 3-4 people who are committed enough to make a record… and they would probably say whatever gets the fastest time in the current meta, all exploits and glitches included.
BUT, to put my two cents into this I think there should be two different sets of records; one where you complete the dungeon as fast as possible, all glitches and exploits included, no third party programs, something like an “all time” record. The second is where you have a group doing a dungeon completing all necessary story steps (kholer and korga are not necessary) using no exploits (los/skipping is allowed, Arah JP not allowed, lets say no FGS too while we are at it) and up to date with the current meta. I think that having these two separate records will show both how strong an individual/team is and how committed they are without baring some due to their views on what is “right.”

The Mexican Cookie.3690:

Depends what you called a balanced team, I guess. DoA had a frontline, midline, and backline. For some, that meant balanced.

I guess, but judging from previous posts, what we did in DoA, UW, FoW, Urgoz and Deep would not be considered “balanced” in his eyes.

Mesket.5728:

One of the things I really liked in GW1 is that no matter how many “optimal” strategies players would bring, coordinated balanced teams ruled.

I must say, you and I played very different GW1’s………..

I salvaged about 30 dungeon exos and got 5 inscriptions, I also salvaged about 80 random non-dungeon exotics and didn’t get a thing….

what happened to this thread…..

TheMaskedParadigm.3629:

According to the wiki, it has no cooldown. And LH Ele more or less requires specific changes to a group makeup. Standard builds don’t work as well with it.

Isn’t this why we run in guilds? Obviously we would not take a LH into a group without respecing everything to accommodate this. And we still get all 3 paths done <35 min relying on one.

Also, wouldn’t a thief be a better replacement than a ranger?

TheMaskedParadigm.3629:

I’d hardly call a former Marine a silly goose, but that’s your call I suppose. Perhaps he’s got a fiery nature.

wha?

In 30 min I can:
1) 3 Paths of AC: ~ 180+ AC Tokens, 6 Chests, ~1g83s, Fun!
2) 3 Paths of TA: ~ 180+ TA Tokens, 9 Chests, ~1g65s, 15% Onyx core/chest, Fun!
3) ~5 Path 1’s of CoF: ~ 105+ CoF Tokens, 15 Chests, ~3g34s, 15% Molten core/chest, Drop Dead Boring
4) 2 Paths of Arah: ~ 120+ Arah Tokens, 7 Chests, ~1g48s, Very Fun!

In 35 min I can:
5) 3 Paths of CoE: ~ 180+ CoE Tokens, 9 Chests, ~2g61s, 15% Charged core/chest, Fun!

I don’t know guys, but I see no problems with this. I value fun as the most rewarding part of a run.

Dempsey.8760:

My only problem with you saying that destroyer is rubbish easy is that through all of my coe runs with LOD never once did they clear it in 1 try without timewarp. So the ability for your members to predict the ease of encounters or the possible usefulness of some classes is rather funny to me.

Says the man who said DnT will NEVER run with LH Elementalists and from the looks of it…. DnT is. You have run with us for a while and have had access to our videos with runs where the mesmers forgot to use TW and still got it in one go. This attack is really low considering how much we can say about DnT now.

TheMaskedParadigm.3629:

I guess the point is that pugs are pugs and they are inconsistent. Guild runs can be too. Not every run we do is a Strife video super run, but they aren’t really bad. Like I said, I’m just trying to show Ranger’s potential and a build that can demonstrate it.

This statement is too true and too many people forget that. Unfortunately, you have still failed to convince me that ranger is any better to a casual guild run beyond being a space filler. That is unless that is all you are trying to prove. Also I don’t see the usefulness of bringing a class where the only unique party support it provides are the Spotter perk, especially in a party where everyone already has ~95%+ crit chance.

You could have summoned the golems by a bug. if your armor was all Exotic CoE armor (regardless of the runes currently applied) at one point, your clones will all have the summon golem ability. This is a bug and I see it happen all the time. Actually it can be quite funny on Subject Alpha when 3 Mark I golems spawn and everyone goes “What the Chicken!?” when 3 golems knock alpha all over the place. Unfortunately it can also be pretty bad when a golem survives phase 1 and 2 of GL and your team gets unnecessarily necrotic trapped….

Guanglai Kangyi.4318:

Wukunlin.8461:

Guanglai Kangyi.4318:

warriors basically rely on HB and Whirlwind Attack to maintain good DPS.

you still haven’t figured out warriors don’t use GS throughout a fight have you?

So warriors don’t use GS at all? No pushing Slave Driver to wall so you can Whirlwind him, etc.? Every single time I’ve used the word “DPS” in the context of a class other than the warrior, people have been posting screencaps of damage numbers from a weapon they don’t use?

If that’s the case, a whole lot of warriors like to complain at newbie mesmers for absolutely no reason.

Incidentally, switching to GS for HB only adds about 2% damage to the warrior’s damage output, versus just attacking with axe. I just realized this when I happened to crunch the numbers. You are probably better off packing an alternate offhand for your axe instead, unless it’s a boss you can Whirlwind on.

LOD does not do CoF. We have much more profitable farms. If we were to test your theory that a non WWGMX party is optimal it most certainly will not be in CoF where you can AFK fights. No. If we were to test your claims we would test them in errr…. harsher settings e.g. CoE p3, AC p2 or Arah p4 on bosses where they have very clear time limits of when they can become vulnerable. I really do not understand your fascination with CoF path 1. It is an easy dungeon and any information on builds gained from there I personally would disregard. Anyone on any build can do that in a reasonable amount of time.

On another note, we do not use GS on our warrior builds in LOD and from what I have been told from some DnT members who briefly joined us (and from those who are happily with us) that they have also dropped it from their rotations as well. Please stop bringing up GS and HB in your dps comparisons, some of us will see your arguments in a better light if you do. (if that is still possible x.x)

arah isnt that bad

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/dungeons/TA-F-U-spiders-change

this must be the 5th thread dedicated to the TA F/U end boss

Should I spoil it for him?

Bread.7516:

In terms of raw dps guardian vs warrior, if you claim guardian to be the better we can easily test this out and i can record it

For the record, lets not include reflected damage in this dps comparison since we all know there are certain bosses that can have 250k+ damage reflected back into their faces.

Wethospu.6437:

Why are DnT or LoD even replying in this topic if they aren’t really interested?

No one from the leadership of LOD is aware of this thread. As I said previously, we troll. This is a recruitment thread that is clearly in the wrong sub-forum. It is yummy bait for the proper dungeon guilds to troll. Cookie and Dub are also taking a liking to this too I assume.

TheMaskedParadigm.3629:

This is Guild Wars 2 end game content.

Too true. Still waiting on DoA 2.0 though…

All I see is that rangers can use environmental weapons better then they can use their own.

Wow, does this mean that “DPS Rangers” need a warrior or elementalist to get their maximum DPS?

Dolan.3071:

How competent are we talking here? Like consistent Berserker DPS, melee all the time, rarely go down competent? Or like flawless executions of Hundred Blades -> one swing -> Whirlwind -> cyclone axe -> auto attack x2 chains or whatever that super l33t DPS cycle is, never die ever, weapons with respective sigils for each dungeon? On that note, is that the sort of stuff expected in Dnt and LoD? Cause that’s kinda… Intimidating

I cannot speak for our peers in DnT but in LOD we do not expect our applicants to have any high level of proficiency at all but ask that you listen, be willing to learn and grow as a player; as well as play the professions we ask you to. While we are still looking for the best players to join our ranks, we are also willing to bring others up to our lowest standards. We are not flawless, we screw up our rotations from time to time, we die occasionally, some of our members are not even fully equipped to our highest standards. There is no reason to be intimidated by us. Yes our runs take <15 minutes to finish but they are extremely casual, people down, we all piglet up, but we keep going, you learn what to do and not to do and most importantly we have fun. Most of us in LOD are not here to only farm, we are here to do whatever Anet has to throw at us in the fastest manner possible and have been doing so for years.

Roman Legionary.6715:

I’m looking for players who are fun and by all means not failures. If you’re not having fun AND completing the dungeon efficiently ( I.E. not knowing what to do and yet running ahead, constantly being down, a general hindrance,) I want nothing to do with you.

If I was NOT having fun doing my dungeon paths in <15 min I would not do them. For some people, doing the dungeons fast with people you know can play the necessary roles effectively WHILE trolling 10 other people in the TS channel, not even talking about the Arah run you are on, and STILL get it done in <15 min; THAT is the MOST fun I could possibly get out of a game and I personally would not have it any other way. While we in LOD do want people to preform at their very best in the very best team setup we can assemble, we remember we are here to have fun in this beautiful game.

Sorry for my rant but I felt it was necessary.

swiftpaw.6397:

I keep thinking…. ‘Eugene?… Is that you… Eugene Krabs?’ ’ :o HE’S REAL

wut……..?

Exile Firestarter.1943:

Scholar and eagle suck. you guys are weird

Either I lost the ability to read english properly or my IQ dropped another 5 points…

I really do not understand what is so bad about this boss.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUiwiFjFvxU&feature=youtu.be

WTB GW2 Hard Mode

striker.3704:

Yeah we did stand inside it, the projectiles still hit us.

I’m sorry but had to have done something wrong. If you are relying on Wall of Reflection or Temporal Curtain’s reflective abilities, you need to be on or directly adjacent to is (touching the little box on the floor on higher settings) to be fully protected from the projectiles. Other than that, it really is not that hard to dps down with adequate reflects/projectile blocks.

Would you like us to post a video to show how we kill this boss after waiting for spiders to spawn? I really do not understand whats so bad about killing stuff fast…

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/dungeons/TA-F-U-spiders-change/page/2#post2238215

It was a pity TW only recharged at the end of the fight…. was a slow fight

If you did not include “Don’t cheese or Line of sight any bosses/mobs.” I could probably post several CoE runs that satisfy your challenge. I really do not understand why groups cannot do this to satisfy your rather interesting challenge. If anything it makes some encounters more riskier.