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ill give you my build its got more toughness and hp then d/d build and good damage with some burst you can take out bunkers easy trust me.

its a called dazelock thief it uses s/d main and bow or s/p off hand weather you wanna be more offensive or defensive.

utitilities i use are hide in shadows, haste caltrops and signet of sahdows you can switch caltrops for tripwire depending if you wanna to add slow and bleed or knock the guy down for 3 seconds.

my build is 10/0/25/15/20

traits are

DA/ mug
SA/shadows embrace,hidden thief
AB/power of inertia
TR/thrill of the crime,trickster

i use 6x mesmer rune on all armor
i use silgil of superior paralyzation on sword
superior air on dagger,same if you do sword/pistol offhand
sigil of superior bloodlust on bow off hand

knights amulet with berserker jewel

your main damage with bell auto attack with s/d youll hit around 1000 ta 1500 on average depending on their armor usually i use steal with basilisk venom,
cuse the backstab dazes the target for 2 seconds but it turns into 2.9 or 3 second daze just enough for your revealed debuff to deactivate so you can basically keep a guy dazed for ever or dazelocked if you keep hitting the backstabs it works also if you hit them on the side of their body so you got some room for error also daze isnt like stun when your dazed all you can do is run like a chicken and most people i daze run when they see that first 2.9 second daze and im dishing out 1200 critting for 16 on them i throw down caltrops and they move slow so they cant escape i pop haste and can dish out 7k with my auto attacks alone if all land within that 4 seconds.

pros
good dodging great surviability has 20.7 k hp
has nice dps with burst when using haste
good control dazelock and caltrops screw your oponent
you have about 1200 toughness so your not squishy
good condition removal remove everytime you cnd into bs
and use his
great mobility with sos
team fighting available and roaming still

cons:
you dont kill fast like d/d fights sometimes take 10 seconds
your not the toughest so you do take a bit more damage from glass cannons
you can win easy still tho
when using haste you cant dodge so dont pop it in a 2v1 with less then half health
you cant steal npc as easy as d/d

Backstab, time to nerf.

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people saying backstab is op are kittenin dumb yea it was op with the old signet with new signet its no where near op on a full glass cannon with 900 toughness the most ive been hit for is 8k from backstab 11-12 k from whole combo maybe 15 if the guy is lucky enough to manage a cnd mug even tho you can cast cnd before mug it still dosnt work 100% everytime i dont even play a traditional bs thief i play a stealth dps thief traited and geared for passive haste with all my utilities being stealth skills and i own regular bs thief bs thief uses mug on me i hit q i instantly recover my conditions because of my trait where in stealth i lose conditions so i can move and the bs thief allready lost all his burst next thing you know i bs him for 5 6 k without using any buffs stealth again hit him for another 5-6k then 1 or 2 heartseekers and hes dead backstab thief is so easy to counter nerfing backstab would just make any other build that incoporates backstabs moot because wed have no damage backstab is fine as it is theirs nothing op about it the only thing i see being op about it is the fact you can use signet if power with it maybe just remove the ability to use signet of power with stealth attacks that way you could use it with other combos but you wouldnt be able to make your backstab op damage or better yet just have it so it dosnt work with bs other then that bs theifs are fine theyre only good for killing bad players now but if you nerf backstab damage anymore you will destroy my stealth build you will destroy many other builds that incoporate bs as a main burst spike in their combo’s all youll have left is thiefs helicoptering with death blossom hoping there bleed is the last tick in order to get a kill i know for one if i cant play my thief the way i want ill just reroll an op shatter mes or a rifle warrior that hides behind lines and deals 20k damage every 3 seconds

Tpvp Premades farming pugs.

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premades vsing pugs is just kitten i dont care what pvp mmo youve played pugs vs premade = one sided match = not fun unless you get lucky and vs that nooby premade with a group of some skilled pug players but even then the match is really close. no pvp game i have played had premades vsing pugs and the one i did that allowed that is now dead after only a year bloodline champions if you havent heard of it. lol dont allow premade vs pug neither do hon i dont even think wow does but i never played wow because its the childs version of pornography

So what if the Backstab build is not nerfed?

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backstab thief is op the build in general is op theres no reason you should be able to do that much damage in such a short time and no even bunker builds cant kill a backstab thief that actually knows how to play even a lil bit i play thief as main and i tried so many builds that are all viable for pvp yet i would allways get owned by all the op specs memer shatter thief bs warrior hundred blades bomber man engi yet when i switch my spec to bs because i got fed up with my homemade specs only being able to beat other people who dont use the op specs i go in matches and terroize i can take on 3 people easily by just strafing and using stealth steal blacpowder heartseeker combo i can stealth forever i can backstab for 6k on heavy targets without using my signet inf act i dont even use the power signet i just put shadow refuge there so i have blinding powder that healing stealth skill and shadow refuge i also have cnd and bp hs so like 6 stealth not to mention if i fight another thief and steal i then have 7 stealth all of witch i can use whenever the kitten i want i kitten everything and theres no challenge even from a full protect warrior or full protect gaurdian sure i dont kill em in 1 2 3 hits but i kill em 4 or 5 and even tho my health is low i still got like 1200 toughness so i never die

starting to kitten me off

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half the professions can be op tho with the op builds those professions provide i understand some classes got to be better at other things obviously witch is why it makes no sense a engineer is tougher then a gaurdian on a tanky build 1 hittin ruins pvp and having professions with op builds nullifies the viability of any other build or profession that dosnt have an op build because their not as useful

starting to kitten me off

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they need to eliminate 1 hit buiilds they dont belong if you can 1 2 3 hit someone in a game there is no skill involved then then its whoever gets the drop or who has the better utility .

g kitten cannon builds can still exist they shouldnt be able to 1 hit you tho tanky builds should still exist but they shouldnt take 3 4 kittenin people to kill ok thats just not allright and thats not fun

ive litterally started using op builds just cuse its litterally the only way to win against no pug teams cuse every team runs an op build because its the only way to win well at least on my server i dont imagine its must diffrent on others tho

i litterally lol if i crush someone with 2 3 backstabs that are so easy to pull off i could take on 2 people and still crush them ive done it many times i laugh ven harder playing fs gaurdian terrozing the main cap point as they try there kittening hardest to push me off only till my teams comes and then we decimate them cuse i just keep my team super fed with heals and protection buffs

sorry its not fun even on the winning side and its even more annoying on the losing side and you wonder why so many people cry? its not cuse there not skilled sorry in a game of 2 million people specially guild wars community at least half the community has got to be skilled not just the few thousand teams who run the living hell out of op build with everything op team or a full bunker team

anyone who says learn 2 play or stop using crappy builds or uses the argument oh they gotta wait 40 seconds to do it all over again anyways so there sitting ducks can shut it cuse there ignorant and obviously have no idea what theyre talking about and are the ones who run these builds 24/7 with a one thumb up their kitten /p>

the definition of skill in a fight shouldnt be if i manage to dodge this hundred blades warriors bull charge have 5% chance of winning it should be if i get hit with this im gonna have a nice chunk of health out but maybe i can pop a defensive spell to even the odds.

nope in this game its whoever gets the first strike wins and thats pretty much all their is to it unless your one of those tanky guys who are basicaly just annoyance.

what needs to be done for pvp to be fun again

serious balance on glass cannon builds to elimnate them or make them balanced
balancing on bunker builds to make them more reasonable it should only take 1 very skilled fighter or 2 people to take one of em down

downed state has to be removed from pvp period even if they didint balance the other 2 and removed downed state the pvp aspect would be so much better and way more fun and actually require some thinking and a lil bit more skill.

these things need to be changed and thiers no denying this kitten im not gonna be one of those no skill kitten who preaches theirs nothin wrong and call others that complain whiners cuse im not ignorant and like a fair game one take should take skill

because as it is now gw2 is no where close to gw1 pvp lvl

starting to kitten me off

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im not one to normally complain but this is really starting to grind my gears there are way to many op builds for certain classes that just ruin the fun of pvp getting 1 hit byt hundred blades warriors glass cannon mesmers 1 hitting me with that clonde destruction move stupid engineers that lay like 10 traps and take longer then an fs gaurdian to kill the fact that in pvp downed state still exists and favors some classes over others.

litterally its either play build 1 or build 2 of class abcdef or get facerolled trying to do anything diffrent even if it would be viable if certain builds didint exist this has nothing to do with countering so what if i wanna survive hundred blades i gotta be tanky but cant kill anyone at the same time and if i wanna kill someone fast i cant have any life whatsoever and can get 1 hit by almost anything the game is literally glass cannon vs glass cannon or 2 ta 3 glass cannons vs tanky motherkittener no variation whatsoever why be a condition thief necro does it way better why be a healing ranger guardian does it way better why bet anything els other then glass cannon or tanky youll just get stomped no matter how good you are because the skills of the other class are just so overwheling you can only beat it with something of the same stature or just go tanky to be annoying

downed state has to go i see no reason why if i kill you you should be able to stay theyre and annoy me i oviously beat you fair and swaure you should just die and respawn in 10 seconds you should not be able to sit there for 10 20 seconds harassing me while i try to finish you off especially if i beat you with more then half my health left theres no reason why you should get a special advnatage being a certain class and be even more annoying or near impossible to finish off alone seriously sometimes i kill someone so fast its like OWNED then they sit there for 30 seconds me trying to kill em or they do even more damage then they were alive to me and end up downing me(elementalist)