Guild Wars 2

I tried to get shots from all 3 stages, in pretty close to the same locations. A couple from the front of The Crow’s Nest and one from Fort Marriner.

It’s really just simple business management, keep the majority happy. Since 3/4 of the WvW pop is on the top 6 NA servers (yes, the pop number was pulled out of my kitten), Anet will keep the greatest amount of players happy by catering to them. T3 and below need not apply. The policy seems quite clear if you wish to WvW outside EotM, transfer to T1-2 or uninstall. I know what I chose… and no you can’t have my stuff.

Good hunting and good luck

Reverence.6915:

And when coverage is eventually equal, matchups are close fought and the most fun you can have in this game

Oh, I absolutely agree. When it happens.
But when you are so far ahead or so far behind and every fight is completely outnumbered one way or the other (the more common results), I’d rather watch someone play angry birds on an etch-a-sketch.

And of course there are no coverage problems in WvW in T1. Pretty soon Anet can change the team names from blue-green-red, to the names of the top 3 servers, and have even coverage. While still keeping that precious ‘server pride’ LOL

Most money/gems = most transfers = most coverage = most PPT wins

Fomby.4295:

Bharel.4328:

They are actually doing us a favor. It’s like 2 resets for 1.

I know you’re just trying to put a light hearted spin on this. But I’m afraid ANET will read this and think you’re serious…. because that’s how low my confidence is in them.

Thanks, I corrected my post

• This is a test of the emergency joke casting service. This is only a test ****

They are actually doing us a favor. It’s like 2 resets for 1.

• This has been a test of the emergency joke casting service. If this had been a real joke someone may have actually laughed ****

While, I know there will always be Gaiscioch on Sor. In reading the post topic, I had a flashback to the summer I was 11. I came home from summer camp and my parents had moved and there was a mini-mall where my house was. Ah, fun times, fun times.

I showed them though, I finally found them and lived in their basement until I was 36.

Ross Biddle.2367:

What you’ll really remember of Alpaca Owl was that he was part of SoR’s day 1 militia, and there’s a number of names that could be listed you’d remember. I keep reading people talking about SoR going back to what it was. Sorry to burst the bubble, but what SoR once was was made up by those early day 1’rs, and the corresponding competitive guilds that joined later to push SoR right up the tiers. It’s not just that the guilds have left SoR now, but that core day 1 militia (many of who joined various guilds), either put down the game a long time ago, or have moved off the server also. Those players who fought for the server every day, were present in TS every day, chatted and made up the community, they’ve almost all moved on (or have no one to log in to TS for anymore). “SoR” is nothing but the name of a server somewhere. The community has mass migrated, either leaving the game, or fighting on other servers.

SoR, and I mean the Rallians who played and made the server, will never return. It’s gone, and those Rallians have taken their game with them. To those who’re left on the server, if you want to have fun go make it, but don’t delude yourself into thinking some great return of the old days will come. It never will.

Ok, I have been trying to be extremely civil here, but this post kittened me off royally. If you will recall, many of those day 1 WvWers began fading away shortly after our ‘saviors’ swooped in and splatted on our server. One of the posts on the enjin forums the new arrivals set up and declared ‘official’, said – direct quote here, “They were going drag us kicking and screaming into Tier 1.” Sounds heavenly. Personally, I don’t want to be dragged kicking and screaming anywhere, even if the destination is great.

If they consider the Sanctum of Rall just a server name somewhere, they were never true ‘Rallians’ anyways. They were opportunists who squatted here and made some arbitrary number go up in a game mode stuck in a “Coverage uber alles” meta. Whoopie! Numbers don’t make communities, people do.

When the arbitrary number didn’t go up fast enough they locust-ed off elsewhere and blamed everyone left on SoR for not ‘supporting’ them. The server’s way forward is just now becoming visible that the miasma is finally starting to clear, and the people who are left are the true ‘Rallians’. They are here because they want to be, not because it might be the easiest place to make some number go up.

This does not apply to all, or even the majority of players, who migrated to or from the Sanctum of Rall. But you painted all of us ‘miserable wretches’ left on SoR with a pretty broad brush, so I felt inclined to do the same.

kyro.8162:

commander Mara was from the guild EPIC. CDS had I think it was Alpeca Owl.

Wow, my memory really is shot. You’re right, of course, thanks for pointing it out. So, I remembered CDS and forgot Alpaca Owl and remembered Mara and forgot EPIC, sounds about right for me. I’ll go ahead and correct my post.
Just remember a mind is a terrible thing to waste.

Retsuko.2035:

Normally i’d believe that too if not everyone moved away. And with everyone, i mean all the WvW guilds are literally gone. In the early days SoR had WvW guilds that made the difference (Choo, TW, Caedas and such). I wouldn’t be surprised if SoR moves down eventually to tier 6 or even tier 7 because with no real WvW presence, it’s really hard to get new WvW guilds to your server when the general WvW population is going down so rapidly.

In the early days I am speaking of, we were ranked #17 or below, which is tier 6 or 7. The server was starting to come together and find our footing in the GW2 world, heck WvW still had orbs back then. EPIC and CDS were a really big presence in WvW for us. There were other guilds specializing in WvW, but I remember EPIC and CDS because their commanders Mara and Miasmic were a near constant presence in WvW, (Thank you, Kyro and Retsu for straightening me out on that) and there were some very good commanders and smaller guilds running around too.

Yes, it may be difficult to get new people transferring here while server situation is in a state of flux. I think our first steps in stabilizing our WvW presence, is awakening the dormant WvW population of the server and re-engaging the lapsed WvWers. Sure, this may not mean huge numbers or send us shooting up through the tiers, but it is important to start at home for us.

rchu.8945:

wow, that incident was pretty bad, if there were more like that i guess SoR deserved to be where it is at right now.

It was pointed out to me that other people in map chat told that person off, but I had logged off rather quickly. The people that told the loud mouth off is generally the type of player you’ll find on SoR, not the loud mouth.

Back in the early days Sanctum of Rall was known as a fun server to fight against, there were posts on the forums from other servers telling us how much fun the match was. We weren’t a big threat or anything, we just tried to have fun out there. I think that’s where we are headed to now as a server. WvW isn’t a job or real war, it’s meant to be fun. So enjoy yourselves and have a blast out there.

Please let me state that I mean no disrespect here to the guilds or players that migrated to or from SoR. As I said in an earlier post, I really appreciate all you did in making SoR the truly formidable server we were in WvW and I learned tons of great info from you that helped me improve as a WvWer. Seriously, thanks to you all.
Good hunting

Unfortunately, I feel if something isn’t done to spread out the WvW population somewhat evenly fairly soon. Server names like Jade Quarry, Blackgate, and Tarnished Coast will lose their impact and end up just being different words for Red, Blue, and Green, as people will continue to congregate in T1 until there are only three active WvW servers and the rest will be even more depopulated than they are are now.

I don’t have any great ideas on how to accomplish spreading out WvW populations to to give everyone a chance at playing WvW as Anet envisioned it. Perhaps separating T1 from the rest of the tiers and letting the top3 battle it out. While we figure out a way form an even league for the lower tiers, through alliances, etc.

My proposal to spread the population out, a ‘population co-efficient’ could be assigned to each server. The score is multiplied/divided by this number to determine the actual match outcome.

The math behind this number should be very complex and completely opaque, maybe even changing over time. This will keep the min/maxers and the spreadsheet wizards quite busy. Also, Anet could rake in huge amounts of money as people transfer all over the place trying to figure out which co-efficient number leads to the easiest wins. Cynical perhaps, but it would probably work.

My proposal for shorter match times would be to have seven 24 hour matches, with the match ups determined by one of the tournament formats. The week long tournament could start on Sunday afternoon or evening, so the servers that are gunning for the win have their big matchups on Friday and Saturday. A shorter match time of something like 21 hours would spread the resets through the time zones, but would risk players not knowing when the reset is without a schedule and would also upset the week long format.

This gives shorter match times, and still has a end of week winner.

Sanduskel.1850:

Think I may have been there. Many of us, including me, spoke up in your defense and told the commander to eff off. That commander never repeated that. also, I’m nearly rank 600, and I’ve seen that behavior twice. the commanders were spoken to.

If it was the same time, thanks for sticking up for us. I wish I would have seen it. As I said, I logged off pretty quickly as my fingers wanted to type some not nice things.

The way yourself and others protested is exactly what I always saw from other SoR players, treating other people with respect. That’s why being told I wasn’t trying to win disappointed me so much.

Good hunting

Qaelyn.7612:

I admire your loyalty to your server, especially given experiences like that one.

That was just one experience, the huge majority of my time on SoR has been a blast, some of my best times in gaming have been here. A ton of nice people left, but just as many great people stayed. It will be a time of rebuilding for us, but we will find a way to have fun doing it.

Whatever trial and tribulations Sanctum of Rall goes through, I’ll always be proud to be a part of this community.

Good hunting

Hello, I’m just an average GW2 player, been on SoR since day 1 and don’t plan on going anywhere. I consider myself a so-so WvWer, definitely nothing special. During SoR’s time in the top tiers, I got to fight alongside and against some amazing WvWers, I learned a ton and for that I’m really grateful. I got to see some amazing ‘How the kitten did they pull that off?’ maneuvers from many different guilds and commanders.

Sure, there was some friction now and then, misunderstandings and such. But they were usually quickly forgotten when the actual battle started. But things got, I don’t know “weird”, a bit before season 1 started.

I’m only 1 person and this is only 1 incident. It was a Saturday night, things looked hopping . I popped into a borderland and a small group of players was putting together a havoc squad, so I joined up with them. We weren’t all in the same guild, so I guess that means we were the dreaded “pugs”. Our spokesperson asked in map chat, if the commander would like us do anything specific, then asked again. No answer. So off we go.

We slapped a few dolyaks, picked off reinforcements, and took a supply camp. The commander was attacking garrison, we asked in map if they wanted us to join up with them. This time one of the members of the group that was on TS asked there as well. Still no answer. We go ahead and take a 2nd supply camp after they capture garrison and this exchange takes place.
Map: Hey are you guys that took Stargrove a guild group?
Us: No
Map: Are you in TS?
Us: 2 of us are
Map: Could you guys leave this bl so [blank] can get in?
Us: Why?
Map: You’re not following the commander’s orders and we’re trying to win here.

We asked for orders and didn’t get any. So on our own we stopped supply and reinforcements from getting to garrison during the attack and took 1 fully upgraded supply camp. And we weren’t trying to win? My logic circuits fried at that point, so I said goodbye to my group and logged out (for quite some time actually).

Again this is just one incident, and it may have been very isolated. But that’s what I mean when things seemed to get ‘weird’ for me.

Best of luck to all the guilds that have migrated away and I hope you have a blast wherever you land. Because isn’t the point of playing GW2 to have fun?
(Sorry for Wall o’ text)
Good hunting

I’m just grasping at straws here, but how big is Zommoros?

Aren’t most Personal Story Instances, um…instances. The devs can do whatever they like to the outside world and put whatever spin on it they want. When you zone into the instance, a small voiced over cinematic when you start could explain any discrepancies.

The interview on Massively states that “All essential services that are unique to Lion’s Arch will be redirected to Vigil Keep for the time being…” I think the key part of the phrase here is “for the time being”, which I am taking to mean at some point those services will moved elsewhere. My thought was that they should turn those services into a traveling “carnival” or what have you, that could then rotate through the racial cities on a schedule.

That way they can still keep the population somewhat centralized and it will also get a lot more use out of the racial cities. Which I think is a good thing. All the cities have so many cool little things in them that you may not have picked up on when you were running through grabbing POIs and vistas. Plus, they can throw LA into the rotation… after we get done fixing it.

A little bit of hubris goes a long way.

Then Tolkien changed it to trolls and the rest is history.

Since Trahearne finished his Wyld Hunt, just have the Pale Tree send him off on a quest to find the Tree that Malyck came from and any others that may be out there. That should keep him busy until people start to miss him in nostalgic kind of way.

(I personally have no big problem with Trahearne. I just found his character kind of ‘Oh, ok. Moving on…’)

Ascii.9726:

Until we get some official word from the man Noodles himself on EMP lets not all jump to conclusions.

I have seen some EMP running around in JQ just not the whole guild.

It could be the oldest trick in the book…
“Yeah, look over here at all this drama and stuff going on. "

Meanwhile, there’s a giant zerg hiding in the bushes right behind you.

Bedstain.6735:

All I ask is that the wall slaves build faster.

Swiftness works to get ’em moving a little faster.

Talentless.5708:

necros dont die, they escape.

You mean they run away from a 1v1? That sounds familiar for some reason.

After reading through this thread, you’d think some game developer would come up with a way for 2 guilds to fight with even numbers, in a standardized rule set, and in interesting locales. That way both guilds are on an even footing, with no excuses win or lose.

You could call it Guild Wa… oh wait.

(Please Anet, some GvG options built into the game would really be nice.)

Well, I probably give out more badges than I earn, but I had a blast tonight. Thank you to both TC and SBI for some amazing fights. This is the most fun I’ve had in WvW in months. I look forward to more fantastic battles. A big /salute to two great opponents.

And to that amazing Guardian we fought at the end of the night, just wow. You don’t happen to give out free lessons do you?

Good hunting

Why not make free armor repairs or no armor damage (on a legitimate death) part of the outmanned buff?

Had a blast during the event.

I want to say thank you to Crystal Desert and Sea of Sorrows for an Epic 26 hour WvW
marathon for my personal Extra Life event. I’m just winding down now. Phew, what a ride.

First, a quick story. I was running along, suddenly feeling all alone. Oh, they meant the “other” west, I realized. So I pull up my map thinking ‘Great, did they say Green or Blue?’. Oh well, I pick a direction and I close my map to the sight of a sea of red names coming right at me up from the z-ramp. So, I did the only rational thing and charged in swinging, stomping and yelling… and <trample>. As I lie there with a flag sticking out of my kitten, one of my opponents gives a quick /salute and runs off. I thought, “Wow, what a change from the /laugh or /dance that I had seen in a few instances in our previous match-ups. Very cool, opponents I can respect and enjoy fighting against.”

So it really bums me out that there’s any funny business with the orbs or other irregularities in normal WvW play. I wanted this match-up to be a great time for everyone, and that stuff pulls the fun right out of the game.

Personally, I know that having fraps running or to be snapping screenshots when something out of the ordinary happens isn’t realistic. But, if you witness anything funky… Report, Report, Report. Use the right-click thingie if you can. If not, do a regular Report and make sure to note the exact server time when it happens (it’s east to forget in the heat of the moment)to give Anet a better idea of what to look for.

Then, Let Us Know. The easiest way is probably noting an opposing guild tag that you enjoyed fighting against and sorting the guild list on the gw2guilds site by guild tag. Most likely have a link to their guild’s site and forums. Leave a post or message one of the officers with the site’s mail system. If we don’t know it happened, we can’t try to rectify it. WvW is fast moving and hectic, so it’s easy to miss stuff.

A quick /salute to two fine and worthy opponents. May the rest of the week be the stuff that great stories can be told about.