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I just created a thief for PvP. And like Op said, I have achieved my potential. First time playing thief, I was able to get more kills and less deaths pretty much in every match than with my warrior which I have played since I got this game. I don’t have much trouble with the other two classes OP mentioned mostly because my tanky warrior can last almost just as long as a Guardian with more damage, and also have a chance in lasting long enough to identify the real mesmer and kill it before getting killed.
First reaction: didn’t realize there was an easy mode for PvP
Although my build is glass cannon, I am almost IMPOSSIBLE to kill because of all the stealth skills I have at my disposal. On top of that, I am doing totally insane damage; my heartseeker can easily do 6k damage for targets under 50% health, and if I can pull off backstab which is not hard, I can easily set my opponent up for heartseeker. And even if I fail my attempt, I can just pop a stealth skill, re-charge my bar and be ready to kill again.
For a lot of matches, I have records like tons of kills with no death or only a few. And I’m killing squishy targets such as Ranger almost instantly. I especially like it when my teammates got my enemies to 50% health, so I can go there, pop two heartseekers and down they go. The best thing is how little efforts and skills you need to have to pull off these results. I have to work really hard towards my kills as my other character, warrior, while as thief, all I need to do is pick a target, preferably squishy or injured ones, and all the tools to kill them easily, instantly and then get out to safety quickly are available. After my experience as thief, I think it will be literally insane for Arenanet not to nerf this BS.
And your the kind of people who assume what others are thinking. I don’t think it’s too much to ask to lower thief’s damage so that, for example, the maximum damage a glass cannon thief can achieve on its back-stab is 8k-10k OR nerf thief’s invisibility skills so that they won’t be able to get away so easily after a failed attempt of assassination.
“garbage thief” <-that right there alone speaks volumes about your stance on game balance, that its sitting quietly directly behind your battered ego.
but, ive said more then once that 20k in 2 seconds is crap and needs addressing,b ut everyone says nerf backstab base damage, when in fact that doesnt solve the burst problem, its how we can stack damage effects+assassins signet.
and for stealth, if you have problems with it wait for the numerous bugs with it to be fixed before you start crying nerf eh?
and to be honest you DO need to understand how the class works before you complain about it, or it in fact does invalidate you claim.
you have no concept of class balance, you just want a nerf, in wahtever form, so you feel better about playing what you like aesthetically, screw balance.
Typical argument by someone who is clueless. Your attacking my attitude towards thief rather than trying to provide evidences to argue against my point. And your opinion that nerfing backstab damage won’t solve the problem leads to absurd implication: so if bactstab damage is halved, 20k damage will be just as easily achievable? Plus, I have a problem with the amount of stealth skills thief has available and how easy they can be spammed regardless of whether they are bugged.
Sadly to you whether my opinion is invalid due to fact that I do not FULLY understand thief and whether I FULLY understand class balance is irrelevant here because Im gonna voice my opinions anyway and let the developers judge whether they should nerf thief or not. It’s just your opinion that my opinion is valid; I can say your defending theif only because you play thief and you know nothing about class balance, but that doesn’t mean anything either.
As Warrior with 28k hp, I was once taken down by a thief in around two seconds, no joke. All they have to do is spam a few skills and kills will flow to them, and when their skill combos got interrupted, they just use one of their many stealth skills and they can safely plan their next move again. This is BS. As long as Thief remains in their current state, PvP will never become enjoyable especially for more squishy professions.
What about godmode Mesmers? Guardians that can hold a point against 2-3+ players at a time for several seconds until their team mates come to assist?
Ever consider that your class should be brought up to par instead of ruining other classes? I can barely compete with a good Elementalist/Mesmer/Engineer, as a Thief. If they nerf Thieves then I guarantee you the FOTM is going to go somewhere else. Oh wait, it already has. It’s called Mesmer!
The only reasonable approach is to try to get the classes on an even playing field a little bit at a time.
I would rather deal with Mesmer BS and Guardian’s ridiculous tankiness combined than getting killed by some garbage thief in two seconds. At least when I am facing Mesmer or Guardian, I have a chance to react like identifying the true Mesmer and trying to interrupt Guardian heal with my skills.
Being able to deal over 10k damage with one single skill in one hit is BROKEN, and combining that BS with other equally high damage skills as well as multiple skills that allow one to easily escape and come back makes a profession way overpowered. I’m sorry but only thieves are defending their own op profession; enjoy while it lasts because there is no way that ArenaNet is gonna just ignore all these complaints. I will probably open a thief character just to abuse him in PvP until it gets nerfed.
what other qually damaging skills?
but im not gonna bother with you, your the type of player who wants x class nerfed so hard it wont be competitive and any format.
not too mention its obvious you dont know what aspects of thief are OP and what arent.
do you know how we get so high a backstab?
And your the kind of people who assume what others are thinking. I don’t think it’s too much to ask to lower thief’s damage so that, for example, the maximum damage a glass cannon thief can achieve on its back-stab is 8k-10k OR nerf thief’s invisibility skills so that they won’t be able to get away so easily after a failed attempt of assassination.
And to be honest, I don’t need to understand thief 100% in order to make my complaints valid. From my experience, I know what they are capable of, and what they are capable of is way over the top. Seriously, if you think being able to deal around 20k damage in 2 seconds with multiple skills for effective escape doesn’t make a profession overpowered, then your just a thief defending thief. But don’t worry, I will be joining you soon as a thief, but my main goal is to influence other people to complain about thief so that they will get nerfed as soon as possible.
As Warrior with 28k hp, I was once taken down by a thief in around two seconds, no joke. All they have to do is spam a few skills and kills will flow to them, and when their skill combos got interrupted, they just use one of their many stealth skills and they can safely plan their next move again. This is BS. As long as Thief remains in their current state, PvP will never become enjoyable especially for more squishy professions.
What about godmode Mesmers? Guardians that can hold a point against 2-3+ players at a time for several seconds until their team mates come to assist?
Ever consider that your class should be brought up to par instead of ruining other classes? I can barely compete with a good Elementalist/Mesmer/Engineer, as a Thief. If they nerf Thieves then I guarantee you the FOTM is going to go somewhere else. Oh wait, it already has. It’s called Mesmer!
The only reasonable approach is to try to get the classes on an even playing field a little bit at a time.
I would rather deal with Mesmer BS and Guardian’s ridiculous tankiness combined than getting killed by some garbage thief in two seconds. At least when I am facing Mesmer or Guardian, I have a chance to react like identifying the true Mesmer and trying to interrupt Guardian heal with my skills.
Being able to deal over 10k damage with one single skill in one hit is BROKEN, and combining that BS with other equally high damage skills as well as multiple skills that allow one to easily escape and come back makes a profession way overpowered. I’m sorry but only thieves are defending their own op profession; enjoy while it lasts because there is no way that ArenaNet is gonna just ignore all these complaints. I will probably open a thief character just to abuse him in PvP until it gets nerfed.
As Warrior with 28k hp, I was once taken down by a thief in around two seconds, no joke. All they have to do is spam a few skills and kills will flow to them, and when their skill combos got interrupted, they just use one of their many stealth skills and they can safely plan their next move again. This is BS. As long as Thief remains in their current state, PvP will never become enjoyable especially for more squishy professions.
If you are looking for some virtual rewards to validate your worth in real life, no, this game isn’t for you. Just FYI, there is no point in playing a video game. It’s just for fun.
Like others have said, you should play a video game mainly because you ENJOY playing it, not because you want to get better gear just so you can seem “better” than everyone else. Same as leveling, you don’t try to level up just so you can reach max level as soon as possible just so you can be “better” than everyone else; you level up because you enjoy doing stuff in the game. Seriously, if you are spending so much time at a video game just to achieve higher stats on your character or virtual prestige, you need to get a life.
You seriously complaining about 100 blades? Even a mentally challenged can dodge that or find ways to avoid that.
Game is dying, so what are you doing to fix the only content you have?
in PvP
Posted by: Deadly Toy.2630
It’s funny how people get into Guild Wars 2 looking for something new, but then they start crying about why things in Guild Wars 2 aren’t the same as every other MMO. And how pathetic are people who got into PvP at very early levels and expect themselves to be decent at it, and when they suck at it, they come here to complain this game sucks. I’m sorry but if you stop playing the game with traditional MMO mindset and bother to actually learn the game, you won’t find yourself so frustrated.
5 times glad
2100 rating in LoL
High masters Starcraft 2.
That’s my merrit list, what’s yours?Yeah right, cause every single one of these games is totally identical to each other and to Guild Wars 2. Seriously, your argument is pathetic. Your shoving “this game is dying” into your op just to make yourself seem more valid already shows that your nothing but a troll.
Go onto other forums, where people that have experience playing competitive arena in WoW (Looking at this forum, I can smell the 1200 rating scrubbers from miles away, aka, most people are kitten clueless.). They are all kitten on GW2, and it’s poorly designed sPvP, which ironically is their only content in the game. Anet forgot to ask some people actually have a clue about PvP about how to design their game, and it shows. The pvp is made ‘fun’ (oh wee, look at mekitten, not competitively.
Yeah right, go ask the opinions of some WoW fanboys. I’m sure they are totally unbiased against Guild Wars 2. And you think just because a bunch of WoW fanatics agree with you that your right? And PvP is the only content in this game? Seriously, just GTFO, your argument is literally nothing but weak. Guild Wars 2 will never become another WoW, so you might as well just uninstall and stop wasting ur own time
GW1 had what, 340 copies ever sold? WoW has close to 70 million accounts over the last 8 years. So why the kitten wouldn’t you want GW2 to be the ‘new WoW’? Clearly, Blizzard has done something right with WoW, seeing how NO game has managed to kill it off yet.
GW2 was hyped, then hyped, and ultimately hyped some more — Guess what? It’s just another dying MMO, where they will have to drop WvW cus there aren’t enough people palying the game in 4 months to support the gameplay.
Face fact; The game is lackluster. Has no real PvE (Lol, horrible instances), has bad combat system with too few spells, GLOBAL ECONOMY (?), Duke Nuke’em style PvP, bad itemization, boring classes and a counter-inuitive hub system.
kitten is dying. Believe me. Join the ranks of Tera, SWOTOR and whatever else crap MMO that has been released the last years.
Because WoW is dying rapidly? According to the latest quarterly report, its subscription number is 9 million, down at least ONE million from the last quarter. And a large majority of WoW’s subscriptions is from China; that’s why the latest DLC is panda crap which is Blizzard desperately trying to retain their main player-base. Guild Wars 2 isn’t even released in Asia, yet. Also, when I say a game is dying, I got data to back me up, unlike you.
Game is dying, so what are you doing to fix the only content you have?
in PvP
Posted by: Deadly Toy.2630
It’s funny how people get into Guild Wars 2 looking for something new, but then they start crying about why things in Guild Wars 2 aren’t the same as every other MMO. And how pathetic are people who got into PvP at very early levels and expect themselves to be decent at it, and when they suck at it, they come here to complain this game sucks. I’m sorry but if you stop playing the game with traditional MMO mindset and bother to actually learn the game, you won’t find yourself so frustrated.
5 times glad
2100 rating in LoL
High masters Starcraft 2.
That’s my merrit list, what’s yours?Yeah right, cause every single one of these games is totally identical to each other and to Guild Wars 2. Seriously, your argument is pathetic. Your shoving “this game is dying” into your op just to make yourself seem more valid already shows that your nothing but a troll.
Go onto other forums, where people that have experience playing competitive arena in WoW (Looking at this forum, I can smell the 1200 rating scrubbers from miles away, aka, most people are kitten clueless.). They are all kitten on GW2, and it’s poorly designed sPvP, which ironically is their only content in the game. Anet forgot to ask some people actually have a clue about PvP about how to design their game, and it shows. The pvp is made ‘fun’ (oh wee, look at mekitten, not competitively.
Yeah right, go ask for the opinions of some WoW fanboys. I’m sure they are totally unbiased against Guild Wars 2. And you think just because a bunch of WoW fanatics agree with you that your right? And PvP is the only content in this game? Seriously, just GTFO, your argument is literally nothing but weak. Guild Wars 2 will never become another WoW, so you might as well just uninstall and stop wasting ur own time
Game is dying, so what are you doing to fix the only content you have?
in PvP
Posted by: Deadly Toy.2630
It’s funny how people get into Guild Wars 2 looking for something new, but then they start crying about why things in Guild Wars 2 aren’t the same as every other MMO. And how pathetic are people who got into PvP at very early levels and expect themselves to be decent at it, and when they suck at it, they come here to complain this game sucks. I’m sorry but if you stop playing the game with traditional MMO mindset and bother to actually learn the game, you won’t find yourself so frustrated.
5 times glad
2100 rating in LoL
High masters Starcraft 2.
That’s my merrit list, what’s yours?
Yeah right, cause every single one of these games is totally identical to each other and to Guild Wars 2. Seriously, your argument is pathetic. Your shoving “this game is dying” into your op just to make yourself seem more valid already shows that your nothing but a troll.
Game is dying, so what are you doing to fix the only content you have?
in PvP
Posted by: Deadly Toy.2630
It’s funny how people get into Guild Wars 2 looking for something new, but then they start crying about why things in Guild Wars 2 aren’t the same as every other MMO. And how pathetic are people who got into PvP at very early levels and expect themselves to be decent at it, and when they suck at it, they come here to complain this game sucks. I’m sorry but if you stop playing the game with traditional MMO mindset and bother to actually learn the game, you won’t find yourself so frustrated.
None, cause MMO bores the crap out of me especially when the sore purpose of all the grinding is to get to the endgame and try to be better than everyone else with gear while paying fees each month; I’m sorry but that’s just incredibly stupid and a waste of time. Guild Wars 2 is the perfect game for me.
thieves aren’t that hard to counter and end their burst, just gotta learn their abilitites is all. not as op as everyone thinks
This argument doesn’t work anymore. Against any other class except maybe Mesmer, I can just do my best and I will have a chance against them. But against Thief or maybe Mesmer, I need to take a lesson with the professional or take my time to learn how to counter them; and even though I do learn to counter them, they got tons of disables and escape skills that allow them to get away with pretty much anything and come back with their full combo.
I agree. They are easy to use and deal WAY too much damage in a super short amount of time. And worst of all, all they have to do is spam a couple of skills and kills easily come. And on top of that, they have extremely effective escape skills. Combining all these, you got two op professions in PvP. Sure, they can be countered, but the same can be said about EVERY SINGLE CLASS. So yeah, please nerf them.
I agree this skill is way too ridiculous and easy to use but with insane damage. Sure it can be dodged but same goes to almost every other skill.
I don’t play to earn some virtual trophies to validate my worth. There is no “meaning” or “goal” in playing a mmo; you play just to have fun. You know what’s pointless and meaningless? playing the game to get to the max level or pvp just so you can get the best gear and be “better” than everyone else in the game. That’s pathetic.