Guild Wars 2

Mithril rank here. The pip rank bonus system is absolutely unfair to new players and I am a bit disappointed to see so many fellow WvW players trying to put PvE players down. We’ve been complaining about WvW losing numbers and wondering about how to keep the game mode alive but now everyone is more worried about getting their extra pip than about keeping that fresh blood in WvW. There hasn’t been this much activity since the last tournaments, don’t you guys want to keep this going?

Our goal should be to keep WvW alive, get new players to join and stay, incentivise winning & fights along with server loyalty. You could have this and still reward veterans by having a higher base pip (say 3) and/or more pips for 1st, 2nd & 3rd place (say 5-4-3).

If a new guy in my guild gets 1 pip while I get 6 that’s a crazy difference. With a higher base he would get 6 and I would get 12. I still get twice as many but he can actually progress and if he commits close to 3hours a day he can still get Diamond, it’s a ton of time but it’s doable. Currently he would need like 17 hours which is complete nonsense.

Hell if base pip was higher, I wouldn’t even be mad if the rank bonus pip I get was lowered or even removed entirely. I still get access to exclusive skins by merit of being higher rank alone so it’s not like I get NOTHING.

Most WvW veterans are past rank 2K or close enough so I don’t mind the rank requirement at all, makes it more exclusive to dedicated WvW players the same way some skins are exclusive to achievement point farmers. Granted scouts and roamers might be lower rank as there wasn’t shared participation for a while but 2K is far from a very difficult goal.

Actually I wouldn’t mind even more skins with higher rank requirements. Some skins at lower ranks then more at 2k, 3k, etc all the way to 10K. There’s only a few that made it all the way to the top rank so could be nice if they got something too.

People should stop complaining about exclusive skins, the only consequence is cosmetic and it’s an acknowledgement that dedicated players deserve to get.

PS: Exclusive finishers based on rank would be nice too.

Threather.9354:

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Thanks for the response, that’s exactly the kind of information I was looking for!

I mainly had my sights on Gandara, pity about the shortage of commanders because it seems they have the population. Deso & Piken seem like they could be good too. However queues and blobs on FSP don’t seem very appealing.

Sarika.3756:

Only contested with siege… only if gates cannot be pvd’d…

I would be fine with that as well.

However even if gates could still be pvd’d you could use watchtowers and scouts to know if something’s up and the damage is low enough that you should have enough time to react and defend.

Deaeira.2651:

I’m not sure what this should achieve. Links were supposed to help balance the population. I agree that they didn’t solve the problem but they are also not the cause of population imbalance.

Vabbi player here, btw., because you were asking for feedback from the low population servers.

I was asking for feedback from host servers (Desolation, Far Shiverpeaks, Gandara & Piken Square mostly).

Transferring to a guest server makes no sense for me as you could have fun in T1 for 2 months and then be linked with T5 and lose every MU/be outnumbered for the next 2. There’s a reason pretty much every single guild/commander transfers away once they’re linked with Aurora Glade.

Thief or not if you die you can easily run back and contest it again. It takes absolutely zero skills and has no counter. A dedicated player with nothing else to do can keep your keep contested all evening. It should take a little bit more to contest a structure.

I think if it was only contested with siege damage that would solve the issue. A small group could still PvD gates but it would take ages and would make scouting more important. A large group would be faster but orange swords would give them away.

I don’t want to start yet another thread about the state of WvW in general. Plenty of these already and we all know that it’s nowhere near what it used to be.

Server links have failed to change anything for lower tier servers as many players just bandwagon from one guest to the next if their link isn’t good.

So with that in mind it seems that the best option if you’re in a bottom tier or on a dead guest server is to transfer to one of the few remaining host servers that don’t rely on linkups for survival.

I was wondering how these servers are currently doing (regardless of currently full or opened) and what would be a good transfer option. How many guilds and commanders (both fight oriented ones are more defence ppt ones), what the coverage is like, the community in general, scouts and roamers, etc.

Would it be possible to get some fair feedback from players on these servers?

Gaile Gray.6029:

Oeps Rolls Necro.2594:

Gaile Gray.6029:

A message from the Skills Team:

The current behavior was an unintended consequence introduced with the 1/26 build.

Hello Gaile,

Without being sarcastic i would like to let you know about another unintended consequence with the 1/26 patch.

Its the mesmer part of the update. Its pretty broken atm and its in a sad state in pvp.
It would be really nice if you can let us know if someone is looking into that part.

Thanks anyway!

Ps. i really loved your frog in gw1

There’s a lot of feedback to read, so please don’t mind if I ask this: Do you have specific areas of concern? Also, did you post in the major feedback thread? I don’t mind asking about this, if I’m able to do so. But a general “it’s broken” isn’t as good as solid evidence.

(And thanks. Froggie is doing well in Old Tyria, but I hope someday to travel with him in the Tyria of today.)

I can only talk for WvW but basically having a profession that can do AoE attacks from 1200 range that do as much if not more damage than a thief’s backstab is insane. Being able to do such high damage should come with risk, being able to do it from range lowers the risk immensely. Another issue is cooldown, which is still ridiculously low.

Basically this skill is all benefit. You don’t have to manage energy (low cost), don’t have to time it properly (low cooldown), don’t have to get in melee range and it does huge damage.

I don’t see how it’s remotely comparable to necro wells (lower range, ten times longer cd, pulses damage not instant burst) which actually require coordination or lava font (not sure if the poster was serious about that one).

I don’t get how “they have to run glassy” is a justification for this. I don’t mind 11k backstab because thieves have to land it from close range and you can “run” into your blob to escape them.

Coalescence of Ruin has 1200 range, negligible energy cost and 2 second cool down. Oh and it has 5 targets. How is this not broken?

The thing is there is so much CC now that stability doesn’t have the same impact as it used to. The problem with your comment about hammer trains is that it’s just a personal opinion. Some people loved hammer trains and some people hate pirate ship. You could remove stability from the game entirely and some people would be ok with that.

The fact is that stability could be countered with wells of corruption, null field and other boon stripping skills.

Your entire point about positioning, timing, coordination was just as valid before the stability change. Do you think a crappy group back then could beat blobs just because of stability?

To me the main consequence of the stability change was that play is far less aggressive anymore as you have to be extra careful not to push and getting locked into a massive bomb. People stare at each other for a while hoping for the other group to make a mistake, etc.

I wish stability was back to the way it worked before and I have yet to see a good reason why it shouldn’t.

Worst thing is when you have an entire guild raiding with that buff. Couple screenshots here from Abaddon’s Mouth guild RosA. They did it Sunday, they’re still doing it today. Pushing pug blobs with guild or ganking people.

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It’s possible to roam on Guardian. As others have said it isn’t not the best in terms of mobility but at least it’s not Necromancer.

As for fights it depends who you fight. Condi specs played by good players will defeat you most of the time. Against other power builds you should have a decent shot.

So yeah, it’s definitely possible to roam on Guardian but it’s not the best at it. Either find a roaming buddy that you can sync bursts with or try another profession if you want to run something better.

Yeah Revenant seems insanely good at the moment but it might change a lot before release and as you said other professions could get some big changes as well.

In any case I suspect that half the players will be on Revenants after the release…

Prestige comes from in-game performance not from some title. Even before OS farm, it was about the grind, it just too longer.

The titles/ranks don’t matter when you’re about to fight a group . The guild tag does and it’s what tells you if who you’re about to face is tough as hell or isn’t.

I really don’t get why people take this so seriously.

Thanks guys. Seems the consensus from replies I’ve gotten here and esle where is to keep renewed focus for “oh kitten” situations such as big well bombs and to use staff more than hammer.

If anyone else has any more comments please don’t hesitate to post them or to message me.

Hey everyone. I’ve been playing WvW for a while and with my guild we’re trying to improve our game play. Some things have been easy (getting the gear, running the proper build) and some things take more time (positioning). However while debating game play after one of our first scrims we got to a few points we don’t agree on or have no answer to and I wonder if some hardcore WvW players could weigh in and share some of their experience with us.

_All our Guardians run 0/0/6/4/4 for double stability. _

• Not exactly a question but other than assigning stability 1 & 2 are there any things we should know about stability rotation? When is it better to use the virtue, when is it better to use the shout? How can we get the best out of it?

• Should we pop Renewed Focus after using Virtue of Resolve to maintain the passive healing or should Renewed Focus be kept as a life saving skill? Is the sustain worth losing that invulnerability?

• For hammer Guardians, should they camp hammer when fighting and only use staff in between fights, before an engage or if the raid leader calls for empower before another push? Should empowers be used when you’re winning and should you stay on hammer when the fight is more difficult so that you’re sure that water fields will get full blasts?

• Any other advice or comment about optimising the game play of our guardians during raids?

Thanks in advance for any input.

It’s nothing new really, WvW has always been less rewarding than PvE and since they added reward tracks in sPvP it’s the least rewarding game type. It can be more rewarding if you karma train but all the players that upgrade, escort & scout spend more money than they earn from the occasional reward.

It’s also less rewarding in terms of “fame” and not interesting for a lot of title hunters. You don’t get any special finishers, the titles are only for max level and most of them will never be reached (killing a millions yaks or flipping SM 25 thousand times…). All you get is a prefix in front of your name that only enemies can see.

People have brought this up for ages and we did get some minor improvements (such as reward chest every rank up) and I guess these are nice but I would much rather have reward tracks similar to sPvP and be able to get skins and other PvE stuff while playing in WvW.

The amount of kitten in this thread… If it’s ok to brag about your legendaries or your achievement points, etc then it’s def ok to brag about being the first to reach that rank. It doesn’t take skill to farm EotM but it doesn’t take skills to farm dungeons or do your dailies every day since release either.

So congrats on the dedication and being the first to get Diamond Legend!

Why all the negativity… At worst this will bring more players to WvW and as far as am concerned any attention brought to WvW is a good thing. Especially if it comes from ANet.

Looking forward to watching some kitten WvW videos

I don’t know where you are getting your information from but being from AG (mid silver league) I get plenty of fun in WvW and it’s pretty much all I do on GW2 anymore. It might be a bit quieter now but it’s summer, many people are off on vacation, etc. I know half a dozen people that left AG to go to Gold League and it was either for karma train reasons or “I want to win more/all the time”. Many guilds looking for good fights are in silver league (in EU anyway). So yeah, WvW is not dead and Silver League is fun.

We’re fighting FSP for a third week in a row now and while we would like some variety, they’re great and challenging to fight. They have great roamers and strong guilds. I could say the same thing about GH & PS. Both Silver League servers as well.

Can’t really argue that the best WvW guilds are guilds that GvG. Hardcore practice means player polishing their skills, knowing their builds inside out, etc. What you could argue is that some roaming guilds can beat GvG guilds with equal numbers or that some less hardcore WvW guilds sometimes have top sPvP players that could beat players from top GvG guilds, etc. In general though serious GvG guilds means very good WvW players.

The only thing I disagree with are the PPT comments. Yes it’s a dumb mechanic and doesn’t show skill at all but it keeps a server in the mix. Almost every GvG guilds will jump ship if their server’s rank falls so that they can stay at a competitive level. Not saying it’s a bad thing but some players care about their community and take pride & pleasure in helping their server’s ranking. I consider myself in between.

WvW is the most entertaining thing about GW2, it’s a bit sad we don’t have an official GvG format considering the big demand and success of streams showing GvG or top WvW raids. Hopefully the unofficial GvG website takes off and keeps that community alive, maybe it will get ANet to do something special for GvG in the future (“link”: http://www.gw2leaderboards.com/ )

I’ve been on Aurora Glade since release and despite a few large exoduses it has managed to remain a competitive Silver League server. At its core, the AG WvW community has patient, friendly players that never give up.

As said above, guilds and WvW veterans alike are welcome, regardless of their play style. We have guilds that focus on small roaming parties, guilds that enjoy defending, guilds that enjoy competitive fights against larger groups and anything in between. AG also has a lot of lone roamers that do their thing at times and join open mic events at others.

Most of these guilds are recruiting so AG is the best place for any WvW player looking for a new home, regardless of their style.

I keep getting this error as well and it’s extremely annoying.

I will get dc from the game and then can’t log back in for a random amount of time. It has happened yesterday and multiple times today…

I am also in Belgium with Belgacom as an ISP. Internet works fine, I am still on Teamspeak with the other players, it’s just the game that won’t let me long back in.

Always happens when I am playing WvW but then that’s pretty much all I’ve been doing so…

1) Gandara
2) Piken Square
3) Far Shiverpeaks
4) Abaddon’s Mouth
5) Gunnar’s Hold
6) Aurora Glade
7) Drakkar Lake
8) Ring of Fire
9) Fort Ranik

Gandara seems stacked to the max so coverage shouldn’t be an issue for them AND they’ve got some hardcore guilds that can do damage.
PS also has a large population and gold league experience
FSP is looking strong at the moment and had some strong guilds transfer
AM is really tough to deal with, big zergs and many arrow carts
GH I am not really sure, they seem strong as well
AG Lost a lot of guilds (to gandara, FSP & RoF mostly) and morale has been pretty low but we still have a good core and some good guilds. Maybe our massive PvE population will help the first few weeks.
DL is strong as well but seems less stacked than top 5 servers of silver league
RoF is coming from Bronze League but they seem like a strong community and some of AG’s most WvW dedicated guilds moved there so I expect them to put on some pretty good fights. They might end up higher in the rankings but it’s hard to predict without seeing them in action
FR is probably the server with the least coverage, they might offer so good fights at prime time but I don’t see them being much of a threat to anyone in this league

Pretty good matchup so far as far as I am concerned. Deso is doing pretty good pushing our borderlands. We managed to wipe your guilds a few times so that was satisfying (after being wiped by Unit, INVI, etc so much :P).

To the Deso guys that jumped around me while carrying siege, you gave me a good laugh. To the UW team that captured SM in our backs while we were fighting off Deso, that was quite impressive, we didn’t even notice until the notification poped up. Goes to show that UW can achieve nice things even though you guys are mostly outmanned!

As for all the talk about tanking to silver league or not or 15 chasing 1 across the map, neither matters. Fact is you’re in our league and we’re having good fights. We all know that what matters for 1st place is coverage and that’s not AG’s strong point. I was hoping for top 3 but I think Gandara will take it. All that’s left for us to do is give you all competitive fights and have fun! I believe we have done both all week-end

See you on the battlefield!

Yeah seriously, this isn’t a minor inconvenience, it’s a game changer. I was very disappointed to learn that people from my own server are also abusing it. I hope abusers get punished somehow. If not ban, reset them to level 1 WvW or something like that.

I am getting disconnected every day, sometimes 3-4 times a day. Granted, I play a few hours every day and I usually can complete FotM or Dungeons without a disconnect. However, it’s still far too much disconnect.

I doubt it’s my Internet as some times I get disconnected and she doesn’t or she does and I don’t. We both use cable so it’s not a Wifi issue.

The very annoying part of disconnects is that I get the pop up saying GW2 can’t find a login server and once I click ok all I have is a black screen and there is nothing I can do (minimize, maximize, wait it out, etc). I basically have to restart GW2 completely every time I get disconnected which is multiple times a day.

This has been going on for months so it’s not recent issue, I am just getting really tired of it (just god dc from a nice sPvP game, sometimes it’s just before a cap in WvW or just before Grenth is over…)