Bump. Same issue here. There may be a correlation with switching characters. I got the very first node in Caldeon Forest (south one) on a new 80 and when I realized I’d have to run all over, I switched to a character with map completion. Went to ALL 24 nodes a second and third time and all told me I got them already. Stuck at 23/24.
This is just my view so I’ll try to keep this short.
The truly Experienced/Efficient players wouldn’t mind helping Inexperienced/New players as long as they could do the following.
Have a good understanding on the dodge mechanics
Have a good understanding on their profession
Willing to listen and learn new tactics
Willing to change their builds
They are not willing to help you if you have the following mentality. “I play how I want” – leave that mentality for open PvE.
I am trying to avoid using the word “Elitist” here as the word itself has been tarnished by players who think they are experienced and efficient yet have done nothing for community except alienate the new players.
The real Elitist’s have post guides and videos for dungeons, posted the most efficient builds for quick and efficient runs. They have helped the community and are under no obligation to continue to do so if players continue to have the _"play how I want" mentality when it comes to clearing dungeons.
That’s understandable and completely fine. But back to my initial point, based on LFG, many groups shutdown noobs before they even can join a group.
So basically you’ll never do it and hope Brazil forgets about it.
We can have a dodge competition anywhere if it matters that much. I’d rather spend the next times I play learning to clear Arah. Feel free to add me to remind me. It clearly matters much to you.
Also, in respons. to the support comment, that’s BS. 1) support helps keep group alive and hitting . rder/faster.
Me
I’m sick of people playing badly, and I’m sick of them not wanting to improve
This is exactly why I hate teaching PUGs. You support just as well in zerker, and AH builds are trash.
CoE Path 2 and 3. Aplha. It varies but sometimes, its too much too often with the AE he does Support helps there. Just one example.
Unless I’m a noob, AH don’t actually heal you ally. Nothing in that tree even support your ally. All it does is make you survive better, but nothing about your ally.
I have symbols, dodge roll (which on avg heals about 10% per roll, AND I can roll 3-4 in a row before no endurance. I have the F2 forgot the name. And that combined with the elite that resets F1-F3, I heal a lot. That in addition to the fact that I prioritize empowering over my own damage which is low. I also can take a hit. Often times, I can stand and take damage then others can’t. But this is all besides my point which people don’t seem to care about being selfish so I give up. Be selfish. I’ll learn via YouTube and join the no noob groups.
I didn’t say guardian is bad at support. I just say that tree actually didn’t support your group at all.
And I like your attitude. Other people are selfish to care about their time when you can’t stand to take your time to do the dungeon yourself.
My sarcasm detector is broken. But I wasn’t even talking about any tree for my spec. I’m an altruistic on my guardian by definition of the word altruistic. My heals focus on group healing. Contrary to what someone else said, it is useful. And again, I reiterate (in response to whoever said support guard or altruistic guard is pointless in Arah) that if people were willing to be a little more helpful, I would have known.
But I give up. I’ll follow someone else’s advice and just join a group after I watch the vids. Then I’ll start open groups when I know what I’m doing in there.
Stop making a case for your AH build helping things. It doesn’t. It draws fights out and gives you a false sense of being helpful. It’s also very lazy because people use it so they don’t have to dodge.
I invite you to run CoE with me. I’ve run it too with all zerk warriors and we’ve ripped through all paths, but with other groups of same composition, it has failed because people ran out of energy, couldn’t dodge and died. It varies. Alpha sometimes spams AE, sometimes he doesnt. I’m all for throwing max damage at everything but in my experience, not all encounters work that way making support necessary. And I’d argue for the last time my preference is zerk. Four of my six 80’s are full zerk. If damage is better for Arah, then that is what I’ll run.
I invite you to duo Lupicus with me and we will see who runs out of dodges.
I’ll be happy to. Once I clear all the paths and get familiar with the dungeon.
My ACTUAL advice not pertinent to maximum efficiency, but for learning:
Learn the paths in order of 3-2-1. That’s order of difficulty for a pug. It will give you an easing into Arah and the mobs, so when the running portions start adding more and more enemies, you’re more used to it.
But you’ll probably get lost running until you know the paths anyway. But regardless. Don’t start learning Arah on P1. It will hurt more than it will help.
Also, in respons. to the support comment, that’s BS. 1) support helps keep group alive and hitting . rder/faster.
Me
I’m sick of people playing badly, and I’m sick of them not wanting to improve
This is exactly why I hate teaching PUGs. You support just as well in zerker, and AH builds are trash.
CoE Path 2 and 3. Aplha. It varies but sometimes, its too much too often with the AE he does Support helps there. Just one example.
Unless I’m a noob, AH don’t actually heal you ally. Nothing in that tree even support your ally. All it does is make you survive better, but nothing about your ally.
I have symbols, dodge roll (which on avg heals about 10% per roll, AND I can roll 3-4 in a row before no endurance. I have the F2 forgot the name. And that combined with the elite that resets F1-F3, I heal a lot. That in addition to the fact that I prioritize empowering over my own damage which is low. I also can take a hit. Often times, I can stand and take damage then others can’t. But this is all besides my point which people don’t seem to care about being selfish so I give up. Be selfish. I’ll learn via YouTube and join the no noob groups.
I didn’t say guardian is bad at support. I just say that tree actually didn’t support your group at all.
And I like your attitude. Other people are selfish to care about their time when you can’t stand to take your time to do the dungeon yourself.
My sarcasm detector is broken. But I wasn’t even talking about any tree for my spec. I’m an altruistic on my guardian by definition of the word altruistic. My heals focus on group healing. Contrary to what someone else said, it is useful. And again, I reiterate (in response to whoever said support guard or altruistic guard is pointless in Arah) that if people were willing to be a little more helpful, I would have known.
But I give up. I’ll follow someone else’s advice and just join a group after I watch the vids. Then I’ll start open groups when I know what I’m doing in there.
Stop making a case for your AH build helping things. It doesn’t. It draws fights out and gives you a false sense of being helpful. It’s also very lazy because people use it so they don’t have to dodge.
I invite you to run CoE with me. I’ve run it too with all zerk warriors and we’ve ripped through all paths, but with other groups of same composition, it has failed because people ran out of energy, couldn’t dodge and died. It varies. Alpha sometimes spams AE, sometimes he doesnt. I’m all for throwing max damage at everything but in my experience, not all encounters work that way making support necessary. And I’d argue for the last time my preference is zerk. Four of my six 80’s are full zerk. If damage is better for Arah, then that is what I’ll run.
OP bro I get it, you see a lot of numbers so you think you’re achieving a lot. But they’re not trying to be jerks by telling you [DEFENSIVE] support is useless. They’re trying to help you, and much like a new pug that needs a lesson, you just aren’t accepting that their suggestion has at all any validity.
So I ask, if you’re doing Alpha, what do you think is better? Killing him in 2 seconds with no need for [defensive] support? Or killing him in 2 minutes, giving him more and more opportunity to catch someone slipping up on a dodge roll, one after another, until it’s just you and one other guy their, and you’re still just healing yourself?
Dont try and mix words. Only numbers I watch are my DPS when I play zerk. When I play guard, I watch party health bars and buffs. And I already admitted I’d run something other than support guard if there were someone to show me a better way. They’re busy playing only with others who know. So until then, I’ll do what I know works.
Also, in respons. to the support comment, that’s BS. 1) support helps keep group alive and hitting . rder/faster.
Me
I’m sick of people playing badly, and I’m sick of them not wanting to improve
This is exactly why I hate teaching PUGs. You support just as well in zerker, and AH builds are trash.
CoE Path 2 and 3. Aplha. It varies but sometimes, its too much too often with the AE he does Support helps there. Just one example.
Unless I’m a noob, AH don’t actually heal you ally. Nothing in that tree even support your ally. All it does is make you survive better, but nothing about your ally.
I have symbols, dodge roll (which on avg heals about 10% per roll, AND I can roll 3-4 in a row before no endurance. I have the F2 forgot the name. And that combined with the elite that resets F1-F3, I heal a lot. That in addition to the fact that I prioritize empowering over my own damage which is low. I also can take a hit. Often times, I can stand and take damage then others can’t. But this is all besides my point which people don’t seem to care about being selfish so I give up. Be selfish. I’ll learn via YouTube and join the no noob groups.
I didn’t say guardian is bad at support. I just say that tree actually didn’t support your group at all.
And I like your attitude. Other people are selfish to care about their time when you can’t stand to take your time to do the dungeon yourself.
My sarcasm detector is broken. But I wasn’t even talking about any tree for my spec. I’m an altruistic on my guardian by definition of the word altruistic. My heals focus on group healing. Contrary to what someone else said, it is useful. And again, I reiterate (in response to whoever said support guard or altruistic guard is pointless in Arah) that if people were willing to be a little more helpful, I would have known.
But I give up. I’ll follow someone else’s advice and just join a group after I watch the vids. Then I’ll start open groups when I know what I’m doing in there.
Also, in response to the support comment, that’s BS. 1) support helps keep group alive and hitting harder/faster.
Me
I’m sick of people playing badly, and I’m sick of them not wanting to improve
This is exactly why I hate teaching PUGs. You support just as well in zerker, and AH builds are trash.
CoE Path 2 and 3. Aplha. It varies but sometimes, its too much too often with the AE he does Support helps there. Just one example.
Support does nothing there because Alpha hits like a train. And the attacks are so clearly choreographed that you’re better off just dodging.
Though carry on proving my point about people not listening.
I know CoE well. And it varies. Sometimes, the zergers can’t dodge often enough. When I run my zerk War, I keep energy sigil on offhand to swap to which helps. But this kinda is the point too. If me running supportis useless, playing with someone who knows better would make me wise to that and I can run something else better for the situation.
Also, in response to the support comment, that’s BS. 1) support helps keep group alive and hitting harder/faster.
Me
I’m sick of people playing badly, and I’m sick of them not wanting to improve
This is exactly why I hate teaching PUGs. You support just as well in zerker, and AH builds are trash.
CoE Path 2 and 3. Aplha. It varies but sometimes, its too much too often with the AE he does Support helps there. Just one example.
Unless I’m a noob, AH don’t actually heal you ally. Nothing in that tree even support your ally. All it does is make you survive better, but nothing about your ally.
I have symbols, dodge roll (which on avg heals about 10% per roll, AND I can roll 3-4 in a row before no endurance. I have the F2 forgot the name. And that combined with the elite that resets F1-F3, I heal a lot. That in addition to the fact that I prioritize empowering over my own damage which is low. I also can take a hit. Often times, I can stand and take damage then others can’t. But this is all besides my point which people don’t seem to care about being selfish so I give up. Be selfish. I’ll learn via YouTube and join the no noob groups.
Here’s a good incentive: how about bads stop demonising us and calling us elitists?
If the gw2 community wasn’t so entitled and full of zerker-hating scrubs I’d be more willing to spend my time teaching people, but they’d rather defend their use of bad gear and their poor attempts of imposing a trinity by “being tanky” or “giving lots of heals”.
First, I love zerkers. Four of my (all exotic geared or better) 80 toons are zerker including War, Thief, Ranger and Mes. I also have 80 support Guard (in SS on original post) and 80 support Ele. I don’t feel entitled at all, but I am sick of the kittens like yourself who are concerned only of yourself. There are people like you appear to be who the moment something doesn’t go perfectly, leave the group and refuse to slow down a bit to teach and accept the fact that not everyone yet has the same experience as you do.
It’s kittens like you that fail to realize that if more of you who knew exactly what you were doing and were willing to help others that you would over time help potentially increase the base of experienced players making the grouping experience even better. I think the satisfaction of running a group of new guys through something is great. I go the extra mile to stop the group and explain WHY we’re doing a certain something instead of just telling them what to do.
I play most of my classes well. With my altruistic guard, I run support and keep everyone buffed and healed as often as I can. But it doesn’t help when no one knows what is going on. All I’m asking is that people be a little less selfish and come to the realization that the stronger the base is, the better it is for you, too. And if Anet can assist in this by adding an incentive for you to not be a kitten, it would be great.
Using a support build is a detriment to the team you are playing with. It makes you feel useful when you actually aren’t.
Anyways, I’ll speak about what you were focusing on. I used to do pugs so I could teach people what to do. I still make build videos, and before I had my own channel I helped Strife with a lot of his stuff. I answer questions when someone whispers me in game, I respond to pretty much every Youtube comment or private message that I get, but I don’t do pugs much anymore and I don’t bother trying to teach people how to play by playing with them and taking them through a dungeon. Whenever you devote a lot of your time to trying to make other people better players by coaching them along or holding their hand, you realize that it takes a lot of time. You also come to an even greater realization: there are an infinite amount of people like this, and you can’t help them all. You also come in contact with idiots that think they are carrying their group by using an AH Guardian with 4000% boon duration and Hammer just because they are so afraid of dying and looking bad since they’ve convinced themselves that they are good. Trying to teach people how to do every path of Arah every single day you play Guild Wars 2 is tiring and draining, and you realize that it’s pretty much a waste of time. People could watch your videos instead, people could learn by themselves just like I did, people could make an effort to find a guild that has players willing to take them along, whatever the case is. And now, since I don’t want to waste time coaching people through Arah, I’m being called an elitist with no distinction being made about my actual level of skill and people ridicule my good builds because they think heal support Cleric’s gear is better. We wanted to help at one point, but a community of infinite juvenile tools drove us to where we are today: taking shots back at those people on forums because there is nothing left for us to do. We mastered the game and we can do nothing more with our knowledge because most people aren’t willing to listen to it. They want to call us elitists instead.
And the TL;DR version since people are casuals at reading
I completely understand what you’re saying. You can’t teach everyone all the time. And I know it can be frustrating. I’ve been in the seat often. But what caused me to make OP, was after the all noob group was taking so long, prior to hopping in LFG, there were ~10 posts for Arah and EVERY SINGLE ONE was essentially saying no noobs. That’s kitten sad.
Also, in response to the support comment, that’s BS. 1) support helps keep group alive and hitting harder/faster. 2) no one else in my group had a support build, so I used it. I usually run zerk because it’s fun. But I’ll bring to the group what I feel is the best fit.
Most, based on their experience seem to have the opinion that running with noobs and trying to explain to them is some god-awful experience. I guess I hold the opinion I do because it’s mostly been the complete opposite with me. After the first encounter or two in a dungeon, I can usually tell who is new. I’ll then ask in the party if anyone is. When they raise their hand, I proceed to explain and in most situations like this, the group goes fine. It’s not fast like when I run in all zerk groups, but it’s still done in a reasonable amount of time. They may be accepting of me guiding them cause I don’t have a condescending tone and don’t belittle anyone, but I guess that’s just me.
Forgive me (all of you who oppose my opinion) for asking people to try and do the same. I’m (and many others new to some content) not looking for a handout. I’m looking for help. I pull my weight. It’s easier done with some experienced mixed in who are willing to teach then trying to learn from scratch with an all inexperienced group and again, it works out better for everyone because it increases the base of players who know what to do.
It seems people find it absurd when helpfulness is asked of them.
Here’s a good incentive: how about bads stop demonising us and calling us elitists?
If the gw2 community wasn’t so entitled and full of zerker-hating scrubs I’d be more willing to spend my time teaching people, but they’d rather defend their use of bad gear and their poor attempts of imposing a trinity by “being tanky” or “giving lots of heals”.
First, I love zerkers. Four of my (all exotic geared or better) 80 toons are zerker including War, Thief, Ranger and Mes. I also have 80 support Guard (in SS on original post) and 80 support Ele. I don’t feel entitled at all, but I am sick of the kittens like yourself who are concerned only of yourself. There are people like you appear to be who the moment something doesn’t go perfectly, leave the group and refuse to slow down a bit to teach and accept the fact that not everyone yet has the same experience as you do.
It’s kittens like you that fail to realize that if more of you who knew exactly what you were doing and were willing to help others that you would over time help potentially increase the base of experienced players making the grouping experience even better. I think the satisfaction of running a group of new guys through something is great. I go the extra mile to stop the group and explain WHY we’re doing a certain something instead of just telling them what to do.
I play most of my classes well. With my altruistic guard, I run support and keep everyone buffed and healed as often as I can. But it doesn’t help when no one knows what is going on. All I’m asking is that people be a little less selfish and come to the realization that the stronger the base is, the better it is for you, too. And if Anet can assist in this by adding an incentive for you to not be a kitten, it would be great.
Are you from EU or NA, pretty sure there is a lot of people in this forum willing to help, /w me if you’re EU but don’t really count on me being online for a while because I have exams.
I’m guessing EU though, you’re from EU, right?
I’m on NA, and I appreciate your offer to help, but more than looking for help, I’m trying to bring light to and find a resolution for a clear problem. Something that could change people from their natural, selfish, impatient ways. The dungeons that I do normally, often times I end up with inexperienced players. Most of the time, I do take the time to explain and teach. There have been times I couldn’t stay. I’ve seen the same reciprocated too, but 9 times out of 10, people seem to be unwilling to help or teach.
FYI, I took 3 minutes to type this while the rest of my group tried to get to me. When I went back to the game, they understandably gave up and all left. After about 1.5 hours wasted, it’s back to square one unless I can form a new group of noobs to continue.
I have an idea. I’ve been playing since BETA and never was interested in dungeon master until recently which resulted me in going through all paths of dungeons I’ve never run. I’ve come across it the whole time, but not so much as LFG for Arah. The dungeon is probably the most difficult and has resulted in the players who have learned it to shun new guys. Most posts in Arah LFG consist of “no noobs” and “exp only.” So I decided to form a group of all noobs and watch a YouTube video of a group doing Arah P1 and lead my group based on the vid. After an hour, we managed to get past the Ancient Ooze and have struggled for the past 15-20 minutes trying to get everyone up to the Crystaline Entities. Growing frustrated, I came up with an idea…
How about Anet add some incentives for the many elitist veterans players to be less unwelcoming of inexperienced players. Something such as upon completing a dungeon with another player’s character(s) who’ve never completed the path, they get some bonus loot or money. There can be a multiplier of sorts where the more first timers, the more you get for helping.
I think some variation of this may be a great idea to change the kittenbaggery into camaraderie and provide less of a deterrent to the inexperienced who are intimidated by the excessively difficult dungeons. It would also get more people engaged in more of the content Anet has to offer and ultimately keep people playing.
I’ve added a screenshot of the very first result I saw when hopping back into LFG.
All too often, I get in a group for a dungeon who midway through or even near the end, the person who opened it initially goes offline and doesn’t return. The group is then forced to go the rest alone or kick the initiator and also get kicked out. This is highly annoying and stupid especially on late nights when less people are utilizing gw2lfg.com, a website used to supplement your lack of a built-in LFG system. Please, for the love of all that is good fix this!
I’m sure it’s been posted before (I refuse to believe it hasn’t,) but I’ll repeat…
I, and I’m willing to venture a guess that many other players find it annoying to have to drag individual non-collectible items from bags to a stack in the bank. One would think common sense dictates that when you double-click an item in your bags, it goes directly to a pre-existing stack in the bank before it utilizes a new bank slot. There’s no legitimate reason (I can think of) this should be otherwise.
Second, when searching the TP, an option for more granular search would be nice. Something like items current character can currently equip or even heavy, medium or light only. It’s the minor conveniences that would make a big difference.
I just hit 80 and was looking for a decent, as close to all-purpose build to cover my normal tasks (I have 4 other 80’s I randomly play, now adding Ele to rotation) of dungeon running, solo PvE and WvW. I got my final levels 65-71 in Valkerie (power, crit damage, vitality) gear with dual daggers and I liked it. Added some survivability in WvW. But again, I’m just overall looking for advice on a single build to do everything I do to start with. Any help is appreciated. Thanks.
First, I’m sorry as I bet this is a re-post. I just couldn’t find the original.
After getting my fourth 80, I decided I wanted to pursuit some achievements. I decided to go after World Completion and was thrown off when I realized I had to hop in WvW to complete it. I didn’t care for it, but I figured fine, no big deal. More than a month later after I decided to start this I made progress from 98% to 99% and that’s only because the past week, we had different opposition instead of the same the past month. Unfortunately, since I started WvW, we’ve been red every single time! It puts servers not so good or even interested in WvW at a disadvantage. Can something be implemented to ensure colors change more frequently?
Hi. I remotely access my desktop via RDP and have realized the GW2 client runs really well in windowed mode. The only problem preventing me from playing the game is the mouse freaks out when I try to adjust the camera angles. If I were to describe it, it’s as if inside the client, it registers x and y axis at a very high sensitivity. The slightest movement and it’s spinning all over the place. It doesn’t seem to register z axis movement at all and the game is generally unplayable due to this.
As a workaround, I navigate using the map to try and get the remaining POI’s and vistas in WvW, but all I can see is a top down view with nothing ahead of me.
Any ideas? Any workarounds?
Thanks.
Edit: One slight workaround I’ve just found is if I WP to a far enough location that brings the loading screen, it resets my camera position so I can at least run around with a decent view. However, it doesn’t really resolve the main problem with the mouse.
If you’re looking to get the gold star next to your name for map completion (plus the Gifts of Exploration, and other rewards), then you don’t need to uncover 100% of each area shown in your screenshot. To get it, you need to complete every heart, find every Point of Interest, view every Vista, succeed in every skill point challenge, and locate every waypoint across all PvE and WvsW maps.
I’ve decided to pursuit map completion and I could have sworn I finished the entire PvE map. After pulling open the achievements list, however, I noticed that I was only at 98% for Maguuma Explorer and 97% for Shiverpeak Explorer. I hopped to each map for both areas including cities and they all indicate 100%. Is this a glitch? Is there something I may be missing? The only thing I could think of is that I haven’t completed WvW maps yet and perhaps they’re tied into the remaining small percentage for each area.
You get nothing aside from money and tokens.
