So…big things happening. With all of the new legendaries coming out with the release of HoT, maybe its time to think about a now longbow option. I was thinking keep it bitterfrost in concept. No images to just imagine.
Stave – kodan ship-like (focusing on all of the sales). In stow state, all of the sales are up and as it is drawn, the sales open to show the myriad of white tattered cloth.
String – MAKE IT VISIBLE – following the special effect on the left arm. Having compound bow string in style.
Arm effect – during day, arm is corrupted (covered in ice) and during night arm is on fire (or keep completely corrupted or on fire)
Projectile effect – either an arrow on fire or an ice shot
It doesn’t matter if it can be done. Half the PvE players will quit and that will end the game. The dev’s know this from the repeated squashing each time it is suggested.
Good luck getting them to end their own jobs.
The hatred of dueling and all it entails is what’s wrong with it. It is intentionally not in the game, not missing from the game.
Please give more information on why people would quit playing if dueling was added into PVE? Would it be because of the losing and or unfairness of a build? Or would it be because of people play dirty?
This is the simplest solution that can make everyone happy: If you don’t like to duel, then don’t duel. If you do like to duel, then you can duel as long as you follow the rules that are already known to everyone who does duel.
Oh no, probably our friend can not stand professional roamers in WvW, so it depends on game that creates a pve bullying system to duel with ppl that doenst have experience in pvp.
Roamers are not the problem, its zergs that rush in mindlessly because “Bags” and “Go to PVP you scrub”
That’s a lot of opinion and no facts. That’s all we both have, and I’m just as likely to be right as you are. You’ve certainly haven’t given more than your opinions here that (small) PvP in PvE is somehow different than (large) PvP in PvE or your opinions as to the why, “because lore.” (Like they couldn’t whip up new lore in a New York minute if they wanted to).
So my opinion still stands. They were referring to the underlying structure of PvE and this underlying structure is why they can have dueling in guild halls, which is a “privately” owned type of map with a different underlying structure but not have PvP in in regular PvE maps, without first doing the “prohibitive amount of work”
Facts:
Rewriting the game’s backstory, lore, personal story and living story to account for faction play is not going to happen in a “New York minute.”
There is nothing about the statement, “The overall design for Guild Wars 2 does not support fully open world PvP and it would take a prohibitive amount of work to even make it possible.” which must mean the statement refers to mechanics and not fitting such into the entirety of the game design, which would include factors beyond mechanics.
The mechanic for players to fight players in PvE maps has already been created. Not only is there Costume Brawl, there was a PvP event at the end of BWE 2 in one of the early Ascalon Zones.
The assumptions behind my opinions are factual. What facts do you have behind yours? Do you dislike the idea of dueling? If so, might there not be some confirmation bias occurring? Since I don’t care one way or the other, I doubt there’s any on my part.
Yeah, there’s already arenas in guild halls, so I don’t see the issue with similar designated fighting spots in cities and even out in the open world where it makes sense.
There are just so many areas in the game that could host a duel between two players whiles others can watch. And if they were in some of the starter zones, new players could get a better feel for what to expect their game play to be like later on when they are more experienced with movement techniques and such.
Still waiting for an actual reason, not just “No” or explaining how the topic is dead.
ANet have said no to this, simply because it can’t be done. The game can not make you hostile to just one person. You will both become hostile to everyone and everything on the map. So your duel would/could get trolled by people pulling mobs to you, or just ganking you both just because. Not to mention ANet have said, is goes against the point of PvE, of you want to duel there are places you can do this, guild halls, custom PvP arenas. So as you can see, as far as ANet can see there is zero reason to spend time and resources on this, as they feel other parts of the game have the ability to allow people to duel.
As others have said this is a topic that needs to die and be left dead. I wish the search worked on the forum so people know this has been covered alot, and it’s a non starter.
I am done repeating myself, everyone clearly just does not understand. And please tell WoW that you cannot become hostile to just one person. The only thing I want out of this at this point is a dev to literally answer this topic with a typed out reason of why dueling cannot be put into the game. There are plenty of instances in the game where green npc’s became red. The lvl20 human storyline about dead parents is the perfect example. Or even with the new patch, you can literally run through the icebroods without being attacked.
Why isn’t there an option to begin a duel with someone in PVE?
Because from day 1 of Guild Wars 2 PvE was designed specifically with it being Co-Op mode only.
Just throwing this out there, but…..the only things I see as Co-Op in this game are the dungeons, fractals, and raids. That list can be shortened as it is very simple to solo dungeons and fractals (both I have soloed, highest fractal being 76). If the PvE is suppose to be completely Co-Op, then shouldn’t everything be harder? As it is I go to starter maps and offer assistance and receive a message back once in a blue moon. And with this, how does dueling take away from “Co-Op” in PvE? The option to duel would be just that, an option.
This entire topic can be compared to a duel in wvw:
The duel starts and the two people are going about their business usually surrounded by others who just watch. All of a sudden your tag starts getting closer and you ask them to not attack people who are associated with the duel (usually 5-6 people). In no time at all the zerg is passing through and everyone is wiped out and when you ask the zerg why they did that the chat will flood with either “Bags.” or “Go to PVP scrub.” This is going to be the third time in saying this now, dueling is not the same in PVP as it is in WVW because you can use your actual gear in the fight, the luxury of having a guild hall with an arena REQUIRES A GUILD HALL. Any argument that dueling causes aggressive behavior couldn’t be further from the truth, as it is there is already unwritten rules known by the people who actually duel. Going back to WVW another reason that comes up is “There are gankers hiding with the duelers.” The only defense and truth to that is someone was coming close and decided to be stupid and attack someone during a duel, that is cause for automatic death. The person who is attacked will have no problem chasing you down at half health because they know how to make a build that is perfectly balanced for 1v1 or 1v2 combat.
To make it short…..its because of trolls in game and on the forums who are preventing this from becoming a feature available to people in PVE. To those who are leaving real comments and reasons, thank you for not being a part of the problem.
I feel as if this topic is dead because people choose to troll towards it so much, not only on these forums but in game as well. When trying to duel in pvp, we are restricted with the gear you can use. In wvw/eotm, you get destroyed by zergs and they yell at us to go to pvp for duel. And to be told that you have to be in a guild…HAVE TO BE IN A GUILD to duel safely……..to add on top of this pitiful list of excuses, “This game is designed to NOT foster greed and apathy, but the opposite”……..It is clear that everyone in this topic has not dueled and has zero experience with what happens.
Dueling in PvE was something they were thinking about at one point, but it’s highly unlikely that they’ll ever do it. It’s simply not an important feature. Polymock (minipet battles) would likely happen first, but I doubt it’ll ever happen either. Costume brawl, custom arenas and guild arenas are the alternatives.
They are bad alternatives though, costume brawl isn’t actually fighting, pvp limits your build with pre-selected stats, and guild arena required a minimum lvl 10 guild hall. I find it stupid how the dueling is less of a priority than letting people facepalm and cross their arms…..because those emote really make a difference in the game.
It’s been talked about to death already. The short answer is no, no dueling, we have personal PVP arenas for that. The long answer can be found with a quick Google search.
Dueling in PVP is not the same as dueling with your actual gear.
That is fine for you, simple solution that you can consider, just don’t do it. And the argument of costume brawl creating lag in the game….everything will create lag in the game, my computer can literally detect a zerg in wvw from 5000 units away. It’s fine that you object to this idea, everyone has their own opinions, but like..what is a legitimate reason to not add dueling into the game?
Why isn’t there an option to begin a duel with someone in PVE? Currently there are room in PVP, but it isn’t the same as dueling in WVW or EOTM (because you have your actual gear), but then you have to worry about getting facerolled by zergs constantly. There should be an option to send a duel request to someone in any PVE map. The process could be as simple as /duel (insert name here) or even a right click option. Once the request is sent nothing happens until they say either yes or no.
When the duel starts it could go through a ready process such as:
-Dazing both opponents for 3 seconds, once the daze is up the duel starts
-Characters are set to full strength (remove level scale)
-Remove consumables
-Duel stops when someone is downed
It’s that simple. Its pretty much costume brawl, but actually fighting. There is a demographic that wants to duel and it seems as if they were just over looked entirely. It has been over four years since GW2 came out and dueling still isn’t an actual thing. Like….come on, step up anet
Why aren’t precursors able to be crafted like the rest of what goes into a legendary? The 3 ways to get a precursors at this point are to throw money into the mystic toilet, the estimated 0.79% out of 3000ish chests, and to buy on the trading post for a ridiculous amount of money. For those players who want to ply the actual game instead of grinding for money to buy a precursors, or those players who have over 3000 hours on their accounts and have never had one drop, it would be much simpler for us to be able to craft the precursors like the rest of the gifts for a legendary. In short, why not hard craft a precursor instead of keeping it an impossible find?
