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Posted by: General Erofcharrs.9835

General Erofcharrs.9835

Why isn’t there an option to begin a duel with someone in PVE? Currently there are room in PVP, but it isn’t the same as dueling in WVW or EOTM (because you have your actual gear), but then you have to worry about getting facerolled by zergs constantly. There should be an option to send a duel request to someone in any PVE map. The process could be as simple as /duel (insert name here) or even a right click option. Once the request is sent nothing happens until they say either yes or no.

When the duel starts it could go through a ready process such as:
-Dazing both opponents for 3 seconds, once the daze is up the duel starts
-Characters are set to full strength (remove level scale)
-Remove consumables
-Duel stops when someone is downed

It’s that simple. Its pretty much costume brawl, but actually fighting. There is a demographic that wants to duel and it seems as if they were just over looked entirely. It has been over four years since GW2 came out and dueling still isn’t an actual thing. Like….come on, step up anet

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Posted by: WARIORSCHARGEING.2637

WARIORSCHARGEING.2637

this topic has been so beaten to death . not even death can remember what it looks like

any more even !! and i think a lot of others will agree with me when i say no thanks no

way no how no just means no !! and costume brawl, should be taken out of pve as it is

not a good fit for pve !! and makes a lot of lag in the game too !! and still no matter

how you want to say it spell it color it the answer will be the same no no thank you

no way no how . doing that will make a lot of people leave the game even more than

what already left and are not coming back !!

no new system upgrades coming

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Posted by: MrWubzy.3587

MrWubzy.3587

It’s been talked about to death already. The short answer is no, no dueling, we have personal PVP arenas for that. The long answer can be found with a quick Google search.

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Posted by: General Erofcharrs.9835

General Erofcharrs.9835

That is fine for you, simple solution that you can consider, just don’t do it. And the argument of costume brawl creating lag in the game….everything will create lag in the game, my computer can literally detect a zerg in wvw from 5000 units away. It’s fine that you object to this idea, everyone has their own opinions, but like..what is a legitimate reason to not add dueling into the game?

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Posted by: General Erofcharrs.9835

General Erofcharrs.9835

It’s been talked about to death already. The short answer is no, no dueling, we have personal PVP arenas for that. The long answer can be found with a quick Google search.

Dueling in PVP is not the same as dueling with your actual gear.

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Posted by: WARIORSCHARGEING.2637

WARIORSCHARGEING.2637

It’s been talked about to death already. The short answer is no, no dueling, we have personal PVP arenas for that. The long answer can be found with a quick Google search.

100+ this right here ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

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Posted by: General Erofcharrs.9835

General Erofcharrs.9835

Still waiting for an actual reason, not just “No” or explaining how the topic is dead.

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Posted by: Healix.5819

Healix.5819

Dueling in PvE was something they were thinking about at one point, but it’s highly unlikely that they’ll ever do it. It’s simply not an important feature. Polymock (minipet battles) would likely happen first, but I doubt it’ll ever happen either. Costume brawl, custom arenas and guild arenas are the alternatives.

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Posted by: General Erofcharrs.9835

General Erofcharrs.9835

Dueling in PvE was something they were thinking about at one point, but it’s highly unlikely that they’ll ever do it. It’s simply not an important feature. Polymock (minipet battles) would likely happen first, but I doubt it’ll ever happen either. Costume brawl, custom arenas and guild arenas are the alternatives.

They are bad alternatives though, costume brawl isn’t actually fighting, pvp limits your build with pre-selected stats, and guild arena required a minimum lvl 10 guild hall. I find it stupid how the dueling is less of a priority than letting people facepalm and cross their arms…..because those emote really make a difference in the game.

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Posted by: Crossaber.8934

Crossaber.8934

Dueling is in PvE, guild hall is where you can find PvE dueling.

It use PvE gear and PvE build, find a guild with guild hall and arena, case closed.

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Posted by: Felahr.9830

Felahr.9830

because at its core, GW2 (and GW1) is a cooperative MMO and open world conflict with other players is a very hostile feature. This game is designed to NOT foster greed and apathy, but the opposite. thats why unlike some MMOs who shall not be named, events, nodes, mobs, etc are for everyone. this just goes against the entire mood this game has.

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Posted by: Shivan.9438

Shivan.9438

Here’s the reasons. – My class is weak against class X. It needs to be nerfed because I think these certain abilities are OP. Incoming flood of players crying, whining and raging about how they don’t need a nerf and if anything, they need a buff against your class. Then ensuing posts about how this class is a hard counter for that class. And even more more about how you just need to “get gud.”

Then there will be posts from the devs saying that PvP isn’t based around 1v1. Because that does create hard counters, and posts about how every spec, class, talent set up is viable, and that argument will never end.

Then people will start looking into what gear combinations are best for dueling and then want to wear it all the time in dungeons, raids and in PvP. And clog up the forum and reddit with requests to let people wear PvP armor in PvE.

And just to give you some things to research. Google up “Frost Mage vs Warrior”, “Priests using PvE gear in PvP/Battlegrounds.” and “Every class is viable.” These were beaten to death in World of Warcraft because they wouldn’t separate PvE from PvP; something that made GW1 so great. We already have enough problems with the two merged as they are in sPvP, WvW and EB. Letting people duel in PvE only brings that nightmarish decade back to life and creates more crap for the devs to have to read through.

Want to duel? Spend 200 gold, buy an arena, put a password on it and don’t start a game, just have your friend join and go slug it out.

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Posted by: General Erofcharrs.9835

General Erofcharrs.9835

I feel as if this topic is dead because people choose to troll towards it so much, not only on these forums but in game as well. When trying to duel in pvp, we are restricted with the gear you can use. In wvw/eotm, you get destroyed by zergs and they yell at us to go to pvp for duel. And to be told that you have to be in a guild…HAVE TO BE IN A GUILD to duel safely……..to add on top of this pitiful list of excuses, “This game is designed to NOT foster greed and apathy, but the opposite”……..It is clear that everyone in this topic has not dueled and has zero experience with what happens.

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Posted by: Felahr.9830

Felahr.9830

I feel as if this topic is dead because people choose to troll towards it so much, not only on these forums but in game as well. When trying to duel in pvp, we are restricted with the gear you can use. In wvw/eotm, you get destroyed by zergs and they yell at us to go to pvp for duel. And to be told that you have to be in a guild…HAVE TO BE IN A GUILD to duel safely……..to add on top of this pitiful list of excuses, “This game is designed to NOT foster greed and apathy, but the opposite”……..It is clear that everyone in this topic has not dueled and has zero experience with what happens.

No, these people have played other MMOs where ganking and dueling happens. when you dont want to fight, its incredibly stressful and can ruin your entire experience when someone decides to harass you. when YOU want to duel, you go to the place for it. pvp. not when youre trotting around trying to harvest iron ore and some kitten wont leave you alone.

the answer is no. anet has said it. the community has said it. get over it. go play wow and get roflstomped to your hearts content.

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Posted by: BlaqueFyre.5678

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People are afraid of being griefed by People given the option to spam duels, that is all people are afraid to get duel requests.

They are even against suggestions of players asking for optional Duel requests where it can be toggled in settings so if you don’t want Open world duels it never shows and auto declines. #carebears

But I agree they shouldnt implement it, on the sole basis that this game and classes have so many bugs that need to be fixed instead and would be a better allocation. Of Dev resources but that is just a pipe dream as they say.

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Posted by: ShinjoNaomi.1896

ShinjoNaomi.1896

If the desire for dueling is so popular, and there are so many players that want it, then it should be easy for you all to find each other, form your own guild, (Call it Fight Club or something) and get a guild hall…
Tahdah! All you folks can then duel to your hearts content…

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Posted by: IndigoSundown.5419

IndigoSundown.5419

Though I would use such a feature rarely, if ever, I can see PvE dueling being a good thing for the game — with certain caveats:

  • Allowed in persistent explorable zones.
  • Starting a duel within the area where the game awards credit for an active event is blocked. If an event starts while a duel is in progress, the duel continues.
  • Disallowed in cities except for certain designated arenas (e.g., Black Citadel arena)
  • Default option for “See Duel Requests” is Off. Those who want duels can choose to switch it On.
  • ANet makes a policy statement that they will NOT make balance changes based on dueling.
  • Those who fear persistent, “Duel me!” whispers can use the existing report and block features.

That said, I don’t think this feature is going to be happening. ANet stated three years ago they wanted to. They haven’t. Whether that’s as a nod to those in opposition, or they think the existing options are “good enough,” or some other reason, I’ve no idea.

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Posted by: Neural.1824

Neural.1824

  • ANet makes a policy statement that they will NOT make balance changes based on dueling.

This will only result in a flood of very creative “I was doing x and noticed that y was OP” threads.

As was stated before: PvE dueling is available in the Guild Hall.

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Posted by: Randulf.7614

Randulf.7614

Duelling is pvp and ANet have expressed a desire to keep game modes separate. There was an outcry about too much pve in WvW at one point and Anet took steps to try and reverse that trend.

There is no reason to have open world pvp or duelling in pve at all in this game. WvW and now Guild Hall arenas all have the facility to serve that purpose. There would be virtually no gain for Anet Vs the potential backlash and toxicity which could occur as a result. The only potential to have duelling elsewhere is a sep queue or lobby in the pvp area, well away from the open world/pve mode where it appears to be largely unwanted.

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Posted by: DoctorDing.5890

DoctorDing.5890

PVE duelling causes salty arguments and abuse in the chat window, and it’s usually map-wide chat.
Compared with other games, PVE in GW2 is relatively free of abuse and rudeness.
Hence I would never be in favour of introducing anything that might encourage abusive behaviour in PVE.

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Posted by: Danikat.8537

Danikat.8537

Having seen this added to Elder Scrolls Online recently I’d say it could be ok, as long as there is an option to disable it so that people cannot attack you, cannot even send an invite (essentially you can forget the system even exists) and they disable dueling in towns, or at least around crowded areas like the bank and trading post.

ESO got the first one right (although you still have to rely on the regular block option for people who spam chat with requests and there is no way to stop people following you around spamming emotes to try and mime a request) but missed the second one and when it first came out it was literally impossible for people with less than optimum PCs or internet connections to enter the main towns. (Admittedly lag is an on-going problem in that game, but this made it even worse.)

It’s died down a bit now, but still frustrating when you can’t see your way through a building because a couple of people decided they need an audience to show off their supposed skills and the best way to do that was to duel in the most crowded spot they can find with as many flashy skills as they can cram into a fight.

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Posted by: General Erofcharrs.9835

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This entire topic can be compared to a duel in wvw:

The duel starts and the two people are going about their business usually surrounded by others who just watch. All of a sudden your tag starts getting closer and you ask them to not attack people who are associated with the duel (usually 5-6 people). In no time at all the zerg is passing through and everyone is wiped out and when you ask the zerg why they did that the chat will flood with either “Bags.” or “Go to PVP scrub.” This is going to be the third time in saying this now, dueling is not the same in PVP as it is in WVW because you can use your actual gear in the fight, the luxury of having a guild hall with an arena REQUIRES A GUILD HALL. Any argument that dueling causes aggressive behavior couldn’t be further from the truth, as it is there is already unwritten rules known by the people who actually duel. Going back to WVW another reason that comes up is “There are gankers hiding with the duelers.” The only defense and truth to that is someone was coming close and decided to be stupid and attack someone during a duel, that is cause for automatic death. The person who is attacked will have no problem chasing you down at half health because they know how to make a build that is perfectly balanced for 1v1 or 1v2 combat.

To make it short…..its because of trolls in game and on the forums who are preventing this from becoming a feature available to people in PVE. To those who are leaving real comments and reasons, thank you for not being a part of the problem.

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Posted by: Just a flesh wound.3589

Just a flesh wound.3589

They did say years ago that PvP was difficult to put in the PvE maps because the way the maps are set up to be cooperative and that it would take a lot of work. They also said a couple of years back that they were looking into dueling anyway. Nothing was said after that but it’s possible they weren’t able to get past the problems with how PvE maps enforce cooperation among players and adding PvP (duels) was more work than it was worth.

If the problem is the cooperative underlying structure of PvE maps, you might be better off asking for a place in the mists with a lobby and an instanced PvP dueling map.

Be careful what you ask for
ANet may give it to you.

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Posted by: Inculpatus cedo.9234

Inculpatus cedo.9234

Stating everyone that does not agree with your suggestion ‘trolls’ is not likely to garner much support, and may facilitate the removal of your thread, and possible account action.

Also, no to OW PvP for all the reasons stated in the plethora of previous threads. (Google is your friend, should you care to peruse said threads.)

Good luck.

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Posted by: DoctorDing.5890

DoctorDing.5890

The OP has just reinforced my impression of a typical dueller….

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Posted by: Blude.6812

Blude.6812

Stating everyone that does not agree with your suggestion ‘trolls’ is not likely to garner much support, and may facilitate the removal of your thread, and possible account action.

Also, no to OW PvP for all the reasons stated in the plethora of previous threads. (Google is your friend, should you care to peruse said threads.)

Good luck.

Agree with you 100%. And as noted Google would have been the place to start, or perhaps the General is aware and has read them but decided to restart an old and rejected concept. Oh well, I see it has been reported for moderation.

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Posted by: penelopehannibal.8947

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Why isn’t there an option to begin a duel with someone in PVE?

Because from day 1 of Guild Wars 2 PvE was designed specifically with it being Co-Op mode only.

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Posted by: Tumult.2578

Tumult.2578

This is like proposing no player fights in PvP.

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Posted by: Ashen.2907

Ashen.2907

Though I would use such a feature rarely, if ever, I can see PvE dueling being a good thing for the game — with certain caveats:

  • Allowed in persistent explorable zones.
  • Starting a duel within the area where the game awards credit for an active event is blocked. If an event starts while a duel is in progress, the duel continues.
  • Disallowed in cities except for certain designated arenas (e.g., Black Citadel arena)
  • Default option for “See Duel Requests” is Off. Those who want duels can choose to switch it On.
  • ANet makes a policy statement that they will NOT make balance changes based on dueling.
  • Those who fear persistent, “Duel me!” whispers can use the existing report and block features.

That said, I don’t think this feature is going to be happening. ANet stated three years ago they wanted to. They haven’t. Whether that’s as a nod to those in opposition, or they think the existing options are “good enough,” or some other reason, I’ve no idea.

This.

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Posted by: General Erofcharrs.9835

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Why isn’t there an option to begin a duel with someone in PVE?

Because from day 1 of Guild Wars 2 PvE was designed specifically with it being Co-Op mode only.

Just throwing this out there, but…..the only things I see as Co-Op in this game are the dungeons, fractals, and raids. That list can be shortened as it is very simple to solo dungeons and fractals (both I have soloed, highest fractal being 76). If the PvE is suppose to be completely Co-Op, then shouldn’t everything be harder? As it is I go to starter maps and offer assistance and receive a message back once in a blue moon. And with this, how does dueling take away from “Co-Op” in PvE? The option to duel would be just that, an option.

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Posted by: RoseofGilead.8907

RoseofGilead.8907

Why isn’t there an option to begin a duel with someone in PVE?

Because from day 1 of Guild Wars 2 PvE was designed specifically with it being Co-Op mode only.

Just throwing this out there, but…..the only things I see as Co-Op in this game are the dungeons, fractals, and raids. That list can be shortened as it is very simple to solo dungeons and fractals (both I have soloed, highest fractal being 76). If the PvE is suppose to be completely Co-Op, then shouldn’t everything be harder?

What penelope means by “co-op” is “not making players compete with others to get things done”, rather than “only playable with other players”.

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Posted by: Randulf.7614

Randulf.7614

Why isn’t there an option to begin a duel with someone in PVE?

Because from day 1 of Guild Wars 2 PvE was designed specifically with it being Co-Op mode only.

Just throwing this out there, but…..the only things I see as Co-Op in this game are the dungeons, fractals, and raids. That list can be shortened as it is very simple to solo dungeons and fractals (both I have soloed, highest fractal being 76). If the PvE is suppose to be completely Co-Op, then shouldn’t everything be harder? As it is I go to starter maps and offer assistance and receive a message back once in a blue moon. And with this, how does dueling take away from “Co-Op” in PvE? The option to duel would be just that, an option.

The co-op side of things is more about a sharing mentality than a specific mode like dungeons and fractals.

- farmable nodes are client side to prevent competing for materials
- Monster kills are shareable to all involved in combat to avoid camping and /roll
- dynamic events allow for multi person participation and contribution
- a greater focus on open world boss fights and metas

Some of these are things that many other MMO’s either don’t do, or GW2 has led the way on or popularised and are what brought players here for a co-operative, not competitive spirit in pve. It’s why Achievement Leaderboards never took off beyond a select few players. Same with Adventure Leaderboards and the unpopular nature of activities.

(On a side note, dungeons are not designed to be soloable. The fact that you or others can, is a testament to individual skill. The vast majority of players would never be able to solo a dungeon or fractal.)

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Posted by: Linken.6345

Linken.6345

Why isn’t there an option to begin a duel with someone in PVE?

Because from day 1 of Guild Wars 2 PvE was designed specifically with it being Co-Op mode only.

Just throwing this out there, but…..the only things I see as Co-Op in this game are the dungeons, fractals, and raids. That list can be shortened as it is very simple to solo dungeons and fractals (both I have soloed, highest fractal being 76). If the PvE is suppose to be completely Co-Op, then shouldn’t everything be harder?

What penelope means by “co-op” is “not making players compete with others to get things done”, rather than “only playable with other players”.

For example a guy is fighting a champion other game sorry he taged it his loot, gw2 oh give that champion a beating and your rewarded to.

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Posted by: BrotherBelial.3094

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Still waiting for an actual reason, not just “No” or explaining how the topic is dead.

ANet have said no to this, simply because it can’t be done. The game can not make you hostile to just one person. You will both become hostile to everyone and everything on the map. So your duel would/could get trolled by people pulling mobs to you, or just ganking you both just because. Not to mention ANet have said, is goes against the point of PvE, of you want to duel there are places you can do this, guild halls, custom PvP arenas. So as you can see, as far as ANet can see there is zero reason to spend time and resources on this, as they feel other parts of the game have the ability to allow people to duel.

As others have said this is a topic that needs to die and be left dead. I wish the search worked on the forum so people know this has been covered alot, and it’s a non starter.

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Posted by: General Erofcharrs.9835

General Erofcharrs.9835

Still waiting for an actual reason, not just “No” or explaining how the topic is dead.

ANet have said no to this, simply because it can’t be done. The game can not make you hostile to just one person. You will both become hostile to everyone and everything on the map. So your duel would/could get trolled by people pulling mobs to you, or just ganking you both just because. Not to mention ANet have said, is goes against the point of PvE, of you want to duel there are places you can do this, guild halls, custom PvP arenas. So as you can see, as far as ANet can see there is zero reason to spend time and resources on this, as they feel other parts of the game have the ability to allow people to duel.

As others have said this is a topic that needs to die and be left dead. I wish the search worked on the forum so people know this has been covered alot, and it’s a non starter.

I am done repeating myself, everyone clearly just does not understand. And please tell WoW that you cannot become hostile to just one person. The only thing I want out of this at this point is a dev to literally answer this topic with a typed out reason of why dueling cannot be put into the game. There are plenty of instances in the game where green npc’s became red. The lvl20 human storyline about dead parents is the perfect example. Or even with the new patch, you can literally run through the icebroods without being attacked.

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Posted by: BrotherBelial.3094

BrotherBelial.3094

Still waiting for an actual reason, not just “No” or explaining how the topic is dead.

ANet have said no to this, simply because it can’t be done. The game can not make you hostile to just one person. You will both become hostile to everyone and everything on the map. So your duel would/could get trolled by people pulling mobs to you, or just ganking you both just because. Not to mention ANet have said, is goes against the point of PvE, of you want to duel there are places you can do this, guild halls, custom PvP arenas. So as you can see, as far as ANet can see there is zero reason to spend time and resources on this, as they feel other parts of the game have the ability to allow people to duel.

As others have said this is a topic that needs to die and be left dead. I wish the search worked on the forum so people know this has been covered alot, and it’s a non starter.

I am done repeating myself, everyone clearly just does not understand. And please tell WoW that you cannot become hostile to just one person. The only thing I want out of this at this point is a dev to literally answer this topic with a typed out reason of why dueling cannot be put into the game. There are plenty of instances in the game where green npc’s became red. The lvl20 human storyline about dead parents is the perfect example. Or even with the new patch, you can literally run through the icebroods without being attacked.

Did you ever read what I typed out? The Devs have said PvE duels where never intend, there for the game is not made in a way to allow it. It would brake alot of the game. Same as weapons where not designed to be dyed. The work to make it happen would be huge, time consuming, and have very little to no payoff. If ANet say it can’t be done with in there game engine, then guess what, ot probably can’t. They should have and idea of what there game can and can not do. They are making it after all. Now accept that they have said no and move on. The same as everyone who has asked for race change and replay able personal story.

Also WoW was made with dueling in mind, it and GW2 are two completely different games. Made for two different audience’s.

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Posted by: Inculpatus cedo.9234

Inculpatus cedo.9234

You aren’t likely to get a Dev response, especially on a holiday weekend, but you can use Google to search the forum for Dev responses to the topic of Open World PvP/Dueling.

Good luck.

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Posted by: TehHobNob.4687

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Honestly the argument that dueling fosters a negative environment is rediculous. That’s just assuming everyone that duels is incapable of being respectful toward other people. Yes there are trolls. There are also trolls in open world pve. If you have ever seen auric basin fail you have seen the death threats in map chat. Dueling is optional. It would be a welcome feature to many. To those that just couldn’t play the game if dueling was added you need to serieously chill out. It wouldn’t hurt you anymore than other features in the game.

That being said we do have guild hall rooms. They are nice but I can’t use mine. We use ours for other purposes no exceptions. 100% Rep guild means I don’t get an arena. I like my guild. But the systems block an average player to edit an arena. It’s always controlled by guild leads. It’s irritating but I get over it. Dueling in open world would be a much more casual and easy access experience. I would play that with friends for many hours.

Tidr; the community is more divided on this than the US election.

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Posted by: Obtena.7952

Obtena.7952

I’m going to have to think REALLY hard for a reason that a PVP encounter isn’t included in the PVE section of the game.

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Posted by: Just a flesh wound.3589

Just a flesh wound.3589

Here’s what they had to say about open world PvP. They talk about how the game isn’t designed for PvP on PvE maps.

http://www.mmorpg.com/blogs/TemperHoof/072012/23486_Guild-Wars-2-Redefines-Open-World-PVP
“The overall design for Guild Wars 2 does not support fully open world PvP and it would take a prohibitive amount of work to even make it possible. World versus world is our version of open world PvP, and while it isn’t ‘true’ open world PvP for more PvP purists, it does contain many of the elements that make world PvP so exciting. Hopefully it will mostly satisfy people that want open world PvP.” — Mike Ferguson

Be careful what you ask for
ANet may give it to you.

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Posted by: Duke Nukem.6783

Duke Nukem.6783

pvp sucks in this game, either you die instantly to an OP combo or you spend 5 minutes hitting eachother until your finger gets numb from hitting the 1 key……..why expand this?

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Posted by: IndigoSundown.5419

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ANet have said no to this, simply because it can’t be done.

Citation needed.

The game can not make you hostile to just one person.

Costume Brawl says hi.

The Devs have said PvE duels where never intend, there for the game is not made in a way to allow it. It would brake alot of the game.

Citation needed — again.

Here’s what they had to say about open world PvP. They talk about how the game isn’t designed for PvP on PvE maps.

http://www.mmorpg.com/blogs/TemperHoof/072012/23486_Guild-Wars-2-Redefines-Open-World-PVP
“The overall design for Guild Wars 2 does not support fully open world PvP and it would take a prohibitive amount of work to even make it possible. World versus world is our version of open world PvP, and while it isn’t ‘true’ open world PvP for more PvP purists, it does contain many of the elements that make world PvP so exciting. Hopefully it will mostly satisfy people that want open world PvP.” — Mike Ferguson

In future, save this quote for threads asking for open world PvP in PvE zones. That feature has nothing to do with dueling.

I’ve followed this game for a long time. I’ve seen devs say they wanted to add dueling. I’ve never seen them say it can’t — or won’t — be done. Prove me wrong — if you can. Flesh’s quote absolutely does not do so.

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Posted by: Just a flesh wound.3589

Just a flesh wound.3589

We can’t prove you wrong (obviously). However if they’ve said that PvP in open world PvE would take a lot of work to put in and if they said they were looking in to adding dueling (PvP in the open world) but they didn’t do so then a distinct possibility is that it was too much work to put PvP in open world PvE.

Edit: or do you think that the “prohibitive amount of work to even make it possible” would disappear or become negligible when it’s only some PvP in PvE? Why would the amount of work become less or unimportant when it’s still PvP in PvE?

And I’ll bring out this quote as I wish. It refers to problems in adding PvP to PvE maps and thus is relevant .

Be careful what you ask for
ANet may give it to you.

(edited by Just a flesh wound.3589)

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Posted by: Linken.6345

Linken.6345

ANet have said no to this, simply because it can’t be done.

Citation needed.

The game can not make you hostile to just one person.

Costume Brawl says hi.

The Devs have said PvE duels where never intend, there for the game is not made in a way to allow it. It would brake alot of the game.

Citation needed — again.

Here’s what they had to say about open world PvP. They talk about how the game isn’t designed for PvP on PvE maps.

http://www.mmorpg.com/blogs/TemperHoof/072012/23486_Guild-Wars-2-Redefines-Open-World-PVP
“The overall design for Guild Wars 2 does not support fully open world PvP and it would take a prohibitive amount of work to even make it possible. World versus world is our version of open world PvP, and while it isn’t ‘true’ open world PvP for more PvP purists, it does contain many of the elements that make world PvP so exciting. Hopefully it will mostly satisfy people that want open world PvP.” — Mike Ferguson

In future, save this quote for threads asking for open world PvP in PvE zones. That feature has nothing to do with dueling.

I’ve followed this game for a long time. I’ve seen devs say they wanted to add dueling. I’ve never seen them say it can’t — or won’t — be done. Prove me wrong — if you can. Flesh’s quote absolutely does not do so.

Dueling=player vs player equals pvp=player vs player

flesh’s post proves this cant be done in pve.

Why should we have to prove it to you again?

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Posted by: Ashen.2907

Ashen.2907

It has been done, by accident, in the past. This proves that it is not impossible. Costume brawl further demonstrates that it is possible.

“Fully open world PvP,” is not the same as one one one dueling.

Still, I do not expect that it will happen as resources seem likely, IMO, to be better spent elsewhere.

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Posted by: Just a flesh wound.3589

Just a flesh wound.3589

Costume brawl doesn’t have a way to keep it 1 vs 1. It’s all or none. Any dueling using the costume brawl system would be open to trolling as anyone or any group of people can leap in and disrupt the fight.

The “it has happened in the past” was again an all or non situation. No dueling can be based on that as it would inevitably be trolled.

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ANet may give it to you.

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Posted by: glenndevis.8327

glenndevis.8327

I would still love 1v1 Duels in this game.

I know it’s been talked a bout a lot and nothing has been done about it. But its still a missing feature of the game.

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Posted by: ArchonWing.9480

ArchonWing.9480

It could be like D3 where there were specific areas for brawling. I really don’t see anything wrong with that.

Another solution is to detatch Obsidian Sanctum from WvW and make it megaserver.

For once you have tasted flight you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skywards,
for there you have been and there you will long to return.

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Posted by: Just a flesh wound.3589

Just a flesh wound.3589

I would still love 1v1 Duels in this game.

I know it’s been talked a bout a lot and nothing has been done about it. But its still a missing feature of the game.

Maybe what people who want duels should push for is a place in the Mists with a lobby and and instanced dueling area(s). A portal would allow party members to go inside and duel using their PvE equipment.

If there was a way to own an instance, like guild hall maps are owned, scribing could be used to make levels, barriers, platforms, etc. If owned instances could be set as open, any non owner parties could use these dueling areas instead of plain dueling areas whenever the owner isn’t there.

Be careful what you ask for
ANet may give it to you.