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I bought the game full price, well my hubby bought it for me… to me this whole going f2p junk is bull, it’s basically a slap in my face. I think those who paid full price should get some sort of compensation, and those who disagree are probably those who’ve joined free. The economy is probably wrecked now.

I’m a veteran (not 3 years ago but close) and I have no problem whatsoever in gw2 becoming f2p. I mean it doesn’t change anything for me. I can understand the frustration of people who bought gw2 not so long ago and didn’t want to buy HoT. But for the others (I think the majority), it doesn’t change anything at all. You’ll still have to buy the expansion no matter how you jumped into the game, by paying or just downloading it for free.

Now regarding the community, we didn’t have to wait the f2p players to get toxic. Also, a lot of new players are just like me and you : people who want to have fun. The only difference is that they don’t have to pay to try the game and that’s GREAT. Just like O’Brien said, Anet is confident that new players will fall in love with the game and buy the expansion and I agree. Gw2 is an amazing and original MMO that deserves to be at least tried. The more new people try the game, the more constent players we’ll have. And in Gw2, more players mean more fun. So that’s a win-win situation honestly.

Regarding the economy, it is in fact an interesting decision. The gem store remains as it is now. New players gathering large amounts of Gold is going to be balanced by the Gold sunk into the new items HoT will provide. And for the price of the core game, it should be “re-earned” by the sales of HoT. Because indeed new players wont pay right now, but they will when they’ll eventually buy HoT or buy gems. So it is a rather good decision, at least in my opinion.

Also, ArenaNet made it clear now : everytime an expansion is available, the previous content becomes FREE. You won’t have to pay the core game + every previous expansion to be able to play. It is a great deal for newcomers and a great choice for the game in general. As for the veteran , it is how markets work. You buy something at launch and over time, its value decreases but you gained the amount of time you played the game. Sometimes I feel like people forget that buying games isn’t a “real” investment as you can’t profit by selling it later. It is something you buy to have fun, nothing more nothing less.

So the main question is : Did you have fun? If yes, then you have nothing to regret. If no, then quit the game and don’t buy HoT or wait till it comes out and see if you’re willing to make the same bet. Really it is as simple as that.

Also, the free outfit is a cool enough Thank you from Anet for us Veteran and we should be thankfull aswell for a game we spent more than a thousand hours playing and awesome people we met by doing so.

I bought the core game at full price and I don’t regret it at all. These last 2,5 years were great and I had a lot of fun, met awesome people that I may have not met if I waited for the game to be free.

This seems to be the argument they all use, its not a valid argument. Being satisfied with the product I originally purchased does not mean I have to be satisfied with all future changes or leave. As a customer I have the right to complain about my treatment by said company to the company. What they do with that complaint is up to them, but if I hear one more high school student ask me “Did you get 60 dollars worth of play out of it?” I am going to flip my kitten. That shows an ignorant, ridiculous, naive take on the real world…

I like how you’re assuming that we’re all children who don’t know the value of a dollar.

I’m 34 years old. I pay my own bills. I have a job. I pay taxes.

Nobody’s saying you don’t have a right to complain. We’re saying your complaints are unreasonable, childish, and ring of a massive entitlement complex. It reminds me a lot of the people that cried to high heaven when netflix split off its online and mail services which resulted in an 8 dollar a month price hike.

Completely reasonable from a business and consumer cost standpoint, but because you’re not being coddled or treated like a super special snowflake princess, you’re upset.

It’s not a case of a bunch of people that don’t know the value of a dollar here. Most of us who don’t have a problem with this realize both what it means for the game and for us as customers long term. We realize that the new player will always end up paying less and getting more. That’s fine. Once they’re invested they end up on the same system. It’s far more fair than asking every new player to pay an ever increasing cost as expansion after expansion are released. In your version of what’s fair, you’d be looking at getting new people in to the gamne by asking them to pay over a hundred bucks just for a basic account with all the expansions .

As an adult, doesn’t that seem unreasonable to you? Would you start playing a 3 or 6 year old MMO if it cost you more to play than something released last week?

See, it’s not that you’re dissatisfied. We all have things about that game that would be more convenient for us personally. It’s that your entire viewpoint is extremely selfish. You don’t care about new players coming in to the game, and you don’t value the service you’ve already recieved for the money you already paid. You’re asking for hand outs because you over value both your contributions and your own importance.

You are not a special snowflake. You do not deserve special treatment.

The good news is that, given this model, you can receive HoT for free and not pay a dime for it. Just wait until the next expansion releases if you feel that strongly about what “rights” you have, or what you “deserve” as a “veteran player”

As a fellow “veteran player” I’ll tell you straight up, there are things I’d like to see change in GW2, but business practices aren’t one of them. Arenanet has probably the most fair business model I’ve encountered in online gaming.

What are you talking about? As a consumer who’s bought a product people have every right to complain. There’s no “entitlement” to be had, we paid the product and therefore we are by every means allowed to be angry when a company does makes it free to play. It de-values the game for the old players, makes them feel as if they only paid to have some extra perks rather than have exclusive access to the game. Of course A-net knows that this backlash would have been created, they are prepared to take that risk because they know not all old players will leave and even if they do, the new ones would still most likely bring them profit. They think that they can earn back a portion of their fanbase with a mediocre armor skin but unfortunatly that doesn’t cut it. Nothing A-net can do will make me regain their trust.

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Thanks Arenanet. I really do feel loved as an old player knowing all I get is some mediocre looking armor. I payed a lot of money for my copy of GW2 and even bought gems to aupport you guys because of your pay model but no more. This is a huge slap to the face of any GW2 player who bought the game and like others have said not even a discount on the hot expansion, seriously I am not funding your game anymore, complete disrespect…

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Definitely make a support ticket. From what I’ve read they do replace that item if deleted. If for some reason you are ignored then put your ticket number in the sticked thread for tickets 3 days or older in the Accounts Issues forum.

Thank you, I will make a support ticket.

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Hi,

A few things are unclear to me??
You deleted the character with your mini rytlock also somewhere late 2012 or was that very recent?. If it wasn’t very recent, why didn’t you ask for it sooner. To me that gives the impressions that you didn’t really care. Or is that what you mean with discussed before?? that you did ask a long while ago and didn’t got an answer or an unsattisfying asnwer?

Lets start by giving you the basic information. The general policy is that support is not going to restore items lost due to player mistakes.

In very rare situations they have been makign exceptions. This is often for people where the loss is very gamebreaking and might mean a request for a refund (you are not eligable for a refund anymore cause you have been playing for too long).

If you make a support ticket and you are unhappy with the outcome you can put it down for review (by using the designated sticky). However, if that was late 2012, there is no change that the ticket will be reviewed cause they changed ticketsystem in the meantime so it is pretty difficult to review a ticket that was made in the old system.

I am not support but I don’t think that a (new) request will result in such a refund. You could make a support ticket (and that would be the only way to know for sure), But I personally think you will be wasting supports time.

I deleted my character a week or so after I got the game, installed it, played it and created a character that wasn’t to my liking. The item had no description on it that if I deleted it it would have been permanent, I thought that I could always have access to the item seeing as I paid the digital deluxe. The reason I didn’t ask for it sooner is because I didn’t know that they were re-distributing mini rytlock to players who had deleted theirs until I saw a forum today (i’m not a very active forum poster or viewer).

I know that the policy says that they don’t restore items based on players mistakes but I paid a hefty amount of money for the digital deluxe mostly because of the pet and the mistfire skill which let’s be honest it isn’t all that great so I was disappointed to see that I can’t just get the pet again via a collectors edition/deluxe edition in game npc or something.

I haven’t made a support ticket because I’d thought that it would just get ignored much like the people in this forum “https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/support/account/Collector-s-Ed-DDE-Item-Questions-merged/page/7#post237243

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I know this has been discussed before but a long while ago when I bought the digital deluxe edition of the game (late 2012) I had a character with Mini Rytlock and I accidentally deleted it being the noob I was I had no clue that the mini was not given to you every time I made a character. Now its 2014 and I’m wondering if it Is it possible to get my Mini Rytlock again seeing as some people had theirs returned? Much appreciated!

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Hello I was banned 10-20 (ban time: 71 minutes) minutes after I logged in for inappropriate language. I do not remember cussing at anyone recently and neither have I all day today so I do not see the reason for the ban.

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Sooo… Moa race disabled because of an exploit, and now this… 2 major bugs in two major addition to the Dragon Bash event.

Suggestion : Hire some peoples to test your stuff before release.

They probably did have people test their event but exploits happen either way. Should get fixed soon.

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Banning for such an event as a temporary mini game exploit is outrageous. Even if you win with or without cheating your rewards are non profitable for farming. Anet is the plumbers fixing their leak that the customer pays for. It is so petty to have these ideas over being irritated in a mini game that I believe is forgivable due to the fact it is not ruining the game Guild Wars 2 itself. Please fix this to make these people stop whining like girls just for a coffer you could get from mob drops or 5 achievement points.

Its not about a mini game its about punishing people who have no common morals in life. they cant even help themselves. And you did pay for the game already so actually no new content should come out.. partially they working for free to entertain us… you only paid one fee not a montly… so dont blame them on their testing mistakes. They forever bring out new little things and programing. The reason for this could be many things that perhaps they didnt entirely meet their deadlines or what ever but still, why even if they didnt think on these things would people misbehave like stupid apes? No respect! But to abuse and corrupt … if they woudnt do that, ANET could perfectly take care on this without now having to block off food used for other things. Besides this happens EVERYWHERE = people are not perfect WoW banned more than a 1000 people for explioting a dungeon…. was this their fault to for not thinking about it? Players KNOW when they do wrong but they CHOOSE to do this so why can there not be consequences for your choices. But thats exactly a good reason to argue now… but for me, nough said…cause there will always be morons… no matter how big or small the situation/event…

Exactly. I said this before but I’ll say it again. It is not A-Nets fault if a bug gets exploited because every player should have read theToC which says to not to exploit bugs. Since they are breaking rules they should be banned, it’s not like they are being forced to play these games with such effects on and they could just wait until it wears off and then join the game but no, people seem to like to annoy others. I just don’t know why…

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Although I did make a thread on the regen foods still not being fully nerfed I guess I’ll say it here. Trays do infact still work and the exploit is still happening although not as frequent.

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Banning for such an event as a temporary mini game exploit is outrageous. Even if you win with or without cheating your rewards are non profitable for farming. Anet is the plumbers fixing their leak that the customer pays for. It is so petty to have these ideas over being irritated in a mini game that I believe is forgivable due to the fact it is not ruining the game Guild Wars 2 itself. Please fix this to make these people stop whining like girls just for a coffer you could get from mob drops or 5 achievement points.

Not everyone is playing this event because of farming you know. I personally enjoy this event and I like to play it even if I didn’t receive any reward from it but these exploiters ruined mine and countless others fun. At the end of the day just because there’s an alternative doesn’t mean that players will pick it. I play this game for fun.

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Hi I just wanted to let everyone know that while food regen was disabled, the trays still seem to be working therefore the exploit will most likely continue.

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Thank you. I can now play Dragonball without any exploiters annoying me…

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nice to see how serious people take their fun. yes clearly everyone should get banned from the game permanently for ruining an optional pvp-based mini-game which has absolutely nothing to do with the rest of the game. after seeing how crazy it is in one match i felt it was kinda boring but i guess others just can’t help themselves and won’t play w/o it.

i don’t see why people don’t use some common sense and NOT play until its fixed? you have a whole month to play the kitten thing, getting all angry and worked up because its not working perfectly day one because of some kitten doesn’t fix or change anything. reporting these people if anything is making things worse by wasting the time of those people who look through those reports that are lookin for genuine cheaters and exploiters.

This wouldn’t be so much of a concern if it didn’t activate a profit margin for such exploiters. The candy and coffin can be sold for quite a bit and these exploiters will use this to their advantage. One of the exploiters I saw said that he earned 3g from the exploit alone and had most of the gear. I don’t see how you would consider this to be fair.

how do you earn gold? you get sod all in reward win or lose.

You get candy and coffens which I mentioned above. When the event started candy was worth a silver if I remember correctly and you usually get 3-4 candies per coffen. Coffens themselves are also obtainable via the event. These exploiters can farm these with ease while other won’t get anything if they don’t score.

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Why should honest players step down for cheaters and exploiters? Why should anyone be blocked from something because others cant play fair? They know its a bug they keep abusing it, therefore they are “genuine cheaters and exploiters”. Also it’s shocking how insanely full of themselves they are, even when you talk to them and ask them to stop you get “i don’t care” or something similar as a reply. I guess to much time have passed since last wave of exploiters got punished. Anet should remind community there are rules and make example of them.

because every single one is an exploiter…
someone put down a tray of some bufffood in LA overflow and naturally i took some.
didn’t even realise it makes DB really unfair for others until a match a few minutes ago where someone “quite upset” pointed my out to this bug. as far as the owning goes;
i won most of my crab toss matches with 200-300 points so wrecking randoms didn’t really seem suspicious and i just figured the health regen was a passive ability like the dragon damage, and why would it not be? there are so many players nearly invincible that one might think this is part of the game. i agree it’s not fair but banning someone over a minigame? overreacting much?

This exploit makes it easier for them to get the gear, achievements and money. I believe that exploiting items for profit would be certainly bannable. Just because most people do it does not mean that they don’t deserve to be punished! It’s not A-NETs fault that they didn’t read the ToC.

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If the devs believe it is a bug, then by all means fix it. Until then, people shouldn’t be banned for playing the game in its current state. Bug or not, the developers are at fault for releasing an unfinished minigame.

Any bug can be called a developers fault. Whether they tested it or not, in the end the game is fully playable and this exploit ruined the whole thing just like exploits do. At least some form of punishment should be headed their way.

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nice to see how serious people take their fun. yes clearly everyone should get banned from the game permanently for ruining an optional pvp-based mini-game which has absolutely nothing to do with the rest of the game. after seeing how crazy it is in one match i felt it was kinda boring but i guess others just can’t help themselves and won’t play w/o it.

i don’t see why people don’t use some common sense and NOT play until its fixed? you have a whole month to play the kitten thing, getting all angry and worked up because its not working perfectly day one because of some kitten doesn’t fix or change anything. reporting these people if anything is making things worse by wasting the time of those people who look through those reports that are lookin for genuine cheaters and exploiters.

This wouldn’t be so much of a concern if it didn’t activate a profit margin for such exploiters. The candy and coffin can be sold for quite a bit and these exploiters will use this to their advantage. One of the exploiters I saw said that he earned 3g from the exploit alone and had most of the gear. I don’t see how you would consider this to be fair.

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How isn’t it? As people stated before players were banned for exploiting the snowflake, why would this be any different? It stops people from having fun during such a major event and I play games for fun…

It sucks that they have to result to banning on such small stuff. Hopefully they can change that policy into something especially if the player isn’t at fault. If the player continues to exploit and we pretty much know the reason. Their achievements they got using that exploit should reset. I can say if the player receives more than 10 reports then the achievements reset should occur. That way Anet knows the player continued using the exploit.

Yes of course I’m not saying ban every single person that has entered the mini game with the regen health buff but they should ban those who knew that this was affecting the minigame and still continued. What many people don’t realize is that this exploit also makes it very easy for people to earn money and therefore it becomes a major problem. I wouldn’t mind a day ban and reset achievements on those who abused the exploit for gear but people that used it for a profit should indeed be permanently banned from the game.

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so how do we report these players if we arent allowed to post screenies of them? report under botting?

Exactly my point. There’s no report option for bug abusing therefore I would be false reporting them if I chose anything else. What are we supposed to do if we can’t report lol?

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Can we just ban the people doing this crap? Yeah, it’s an exploit that’s not really generating money, but it is being used to get the achievement easier, which should be bannable. -__-’

It is actually making money. I have screens of people who said they were using this exploit for money and they have made more than cof does and that says quite a lot about it.

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Bans should NOT be handed out because ArenaNet did not fully test their event before releasing it. Normal players have entered a Dragon Ball match with this food buff on them and it STAYED ON WHEN THEY ENTERED THE ARENA.

People are not at fault here, ArenaNet is.

Why didn’t these people leave the match as soon as they noticed that it was unbalancing the game so the buff wears off? A lot of people know that it’s affecting the game but they continue to do it and many people actually lie about it saying that they had it on before.

It is ArenaNet’s fault. Not the players’ fault for using game mechanics to their advantage.

Doesn’t mean that the players should not be banned for such behavior. Many are making a profit from it and others are getting gear that would take quite a long time to get and for me I’d say that that’s a huge exploit. One of my guild members had a regen buff before entering the dragon ball match and he noticed that it affected players, left and noted people. The way to fix an exploit is to alert people not use it to your advantage.

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Bans should NOT be handed out because ArenaNet did not fully test their event before releasing it. Normal players have entered a Dragon Ball match with this food buff on them and it STAYED ON WHEN THEY ENTERED THE ARENA.

People are not at fault here, ArenaNet is.

Why didn’t these people leave the match as soon as they noticed that it was unbalancing the game so the buff wears off? A lot of people know that it’s affecting the game but they continue to do it and many people actually lie about it saying that they had it on before.

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If these people get away with no repercussions I honestly think I might be done with Guild Wars 2. They know full well what they are doing here and they’re ruining the game for everybody else. Ban them for the duration of Dragon Bash and let justice be done.

As long banning isn’t involved I can careless what punishment they will receive if they continue it.

For an example

Someone posted about what Microsoft does, reset the achievements for those caught cheating and make it impossible for them to get it again.

This right here for a punishment seems reasonable.

I’d like to see a temporary ban of at least a week because as others said before an exploit IS an exploit.

For something as small as this is not worth a week ban.

How isn’t it? As people stated before players were banned for exploiting the snowflake, why would this be any different? It stops people from having fun during such a major event and I play games for fun…

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Lol @people saying “I tested this and it still works”
Of course it works! It has not been patched yet ! You did it for the lolz, like all of us

And come on, be serious, reseting the achievments is fair, banning people for “cheating” a mini game that will not even cause a significant impact on the game is pretty unfair.

It is impacting the game quite a lot. As far as to say that the game is almost impossible to win if you have one person on the enemy team that is using the regen bug. I’d like to see a temporary ban of at least a week because as others said before an exploit IS an exploit.