HoT Price Feedback + Base game included [merged]
in Guild Wars 2: Heart of Thorns
Posted by: Immanuel.1560
in Guild Wars 2: Heart of Thorns
Posted by: Immanuel.1560
I am trying to stay calm and keep my objective fair for both side. This is how I see the whole situation:
1. Anet offers a cheap starter pack (Standard version) to the new players. They will get core game with it and 5 character slots to have diversity to their characters. So it is more like potential customers.
2. Anet is pushing existing players more to the expensive versions (Deluxe and Ultimate) that’s why they have add in those packages character slot in them. They are showing that you will get this title and these fancy stuff with package too. So they are offering Shinies for existing players. Of course new players might buy these expensive versions too, but more likely they go to cheap one.
3. I understand that “veteran players” would like to have cheap version too without all shinies, but there is lack of character slot. The economical situation on the world is more economical depress than economical boom, so there is a lot of unemployment, or people need to take what work they can and don’t get a lot of sallary from there. They can not change working place to more profitable either, because there are not that kind of work to offer. That’s the reason many players would like to have cheaper version of the expansion with character slot too. Not all people who are playing in this game are rich.
4. Anet is a company and it has obligations to it’s shareholders and financier. They want profit for their money and investments. That’s why they try to get more money from existing players and offers more expensive versions to them.
5. I understand those players who just bought GW2 core game, because what was in FAQ page before pre-purchase started. Yes they are angry, they were given mislead information about HoT package in FAQ page.
So Anet’s intention was good to merge core game and expansion in same package. They didn’t took notice the economical situation around of the world and they didn’t remember what they had put in FAQ page either. That started whole mess.
I am not going to buy HoT, but it is not because I would be angry or upset to Anet. It is only my personal economical situation. I don’t have afford that HoT, I rather eat and pay my rent. I got unemployed some time ago because of production and financial reasons from my working place. There were kicked out 300 other people too. And where I am living, there are 11 000 working place open in whole country, but there are nearly 500 000 unemployed people to fighting those working places. And usually younger one get that working place. We older people are just ignored.
That’s how I see whole situation.
Merry Christmas to all!
I post this earlier, but nobody wasn’t so interested:
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/Season-s-Greetings
Merry Christmas to everyone!! May all your wishes come true.
This is my thread what I post yesterday:
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/Season-s-Greetings
Dev’s didn’t even peak on it, but I will link it in here too. Maybe they will see it from here too.
What kind of gift would I like to have from Devs?
I want:
That’s all what would be most wonderful gift what they could give me.
Season’s Greetings to all ArenaNet employees! Have a joyful Christmas time!!!
Thank you ArenaNet for the past year. Thank you for the Living Story, it has been awesome. Thank you for all those changes what you have done to this game and made it even more rewarding and fun
Season’s Greetings to all ArenaNet employees and for their families
How would you address the fact that many people do not play PvP in any way, and thus are locked out of skills under the system you proposed?
Edit : And there are Some people who only play WvW, should they be forced to play PvE content and do Jumping puzzles in order to unlock new skills as well?
Being a master of your race implies to be good in all aspects of the game PvE, PvP and WvW.
Obtaining this title is purely optional like all the achievements are. So, no one is forcing you to play anything. You play it if you want.
Personally I don’t play JP’s, PvP or WvW, but this doesn’t make me think only about myself when I put a suggestion, but I think about community as a whole and also, I think about “What” makes a character be the best which doesn’t imply that I personally can get it.
I have seen that people have been talking in here about skills and how to unlock them.
My suggestion to this is to let those skills be rewards from Racial Titles . When character have achieved some specific Racial Title, it will give skills as reward. They are somehow related to the title, or to what requirements you have to do to get the title.
Benjamin made that racial title table, and I modified it bit in here adding more detailed information to connect the title to unlocking skill mechanism:
Lets take the requirements from that table and see what kind of skills you could open by achieving these titles.
1. Complete all jumping puzzles with specific race / Racial mini title 1
- Reward from this title are leaping skills, long range skills, and long range evade skills.
2. Use any Racial skills 1000 times (cumulative) with specific race / Racial mini title 2
- Reward from this title are Racial elite skills which gives condition damage to a single foe and support to nearby allies
3. Complete Personal Story with a specific race / Racial mini title 3
- Reward from this title are Racial elite skills which gives DPS and AoE damage to foes
4. Defeat 1000 players being other race than you in PvP / Racial mini title 4
- Reward from this title are single damage skills with high DPS
5. Complete 1000 successfull events in WvW with a specific race / Racial mini title 5
- Reward from this title are skills with single condition damage skills with high DPS
6. Complete all Dungeons with a Specific Race / Racial mini title 6
- Reward from this title are AoE supporting skills and AoE healing skills and Single high DPS skills
7. Obtain max Fractail level with a specific race / Racial mini title 7
- Reward form this title are single target supporting skills and single target healing skills, AoE high DPS and Condition damage Skills
8. Complete 3000 successfull Group Events in PvE with a specific race / Racial mini title 8
- Reward from this title are AoE supporting skills, AoE Healing skills and AoE Condition damage skills.
9. Complete All World Boss Events Successfull 20 times with a specific race / Racial mini title 9
- Reward from this title are Long Range High DPS skills and AoE supporting skills
10. Complete ”Been There Done That” with a specific Race
- Reward from this title are long term Running skills
11. Obtain all racial Master Titles / GRAND TITLE
Reward from this are Elite skill High AoE support, High AoE Condition damage, High AoE DPS and High AoE Healing skills same time.
Of course, this can be included into a vertical progression too, but it brings a different way into the unlocking skills system which would diversify the skill acquisition making it a horizontal progression valid option. Titles are optional.
The Racial Titles as Nike said, they are long term goals due to their nature, so adding skill unlocks to various tiers in a specific title for each title will make it really interesting goal for many players expanding the pool of skills.
(edited by Immanuel.1560)
@Ronah
Hey, you are right, I should have done that in my table.
I have put in there two different colour now.
Red = Totally changed that title
Blue = It is same title, but I have change spelling of words
I hope it is now more clear what I have done in there.
I have been thinking of these Racial Titles as well, what Ilmatar and Benjamin have talking about.
in this link: ( I hope I copy it right)
Benjamin’s table of Racial Titles was awesome. I have made some suggestions in this table too. I hope you don’t mind that I have use your table as base of my suggestion. I have change couple Titles names, otherwise it is untouched, I hope .
Here is my Table for Racial Titles:
1. Add meaning to existing Personality System
+ (Charm, Dignity and Ferosity)
2. Order Specific Events
+ (Whisper, Priory and Vigil)
3. Racial Titles + Prestigous title, something like GWAMM
I have level up my ranger from level 2 to level 80 in 47 hours and 47 minutes just by doing all the hearts in all areas and opening most of the waypoints + doing easy dynamic events. You will earn like this 8 -9 golds too.
So if you have a lot of money to do crafting, then that is fastest way. But if you don’t have money, just explore all the areas and do all hearts
Lets get access to the Cantha little by little.
All starts when Shiro wake up again and escape. He has tied up all 6 God’s together with Kormir’s blindfold and that’s why those 6 God’s have been so silence and dissappear so suddenly. Shiro have take them inprisonment.
First part could be 6 – 10 Living stories what brings players to the dream world, where players have to release all other 6 Gods from their inprisonment. Shiro would take all kind of forms to attack players with his army. All those Canthan monsters will be reveal this way to the players. All those Saltspray Dragons, Rockhide Dragons, Scuttle Fishes, Creeping Carps, Irukandjis, Nagas, Kappas, Wardens, Juggenauts, Turtles, Gakis Mantises, Undergrowths, Dragon Mosses, Onis, Yetis, Island Guardians, Rot Wallows, Fallen Luxons and Fallen Kurzicks and many more a.k.a all habitants from Cantha.
Last living story in Cantha episode would be, that Shiro will take Dragon form and start to tyrannize all good Canthan people with his new form and with his army. Tengu’s does not have any other choise than open those gates to the Cantha and plead to help Tyria. And Tyria will answer the call. And all those heroes who will accept the challenge will leave to the Cantha under the supervision of Trahearne….(What did I just said?) And this moment Cantha would be reveal.
( And with these Living Story parts would not be even one dungeon, all would happen that dream world, open space, it might look like Tyria.)
All areas in Cantha would have heart quests, all somehow related to the 6 gods or defeating Shiro’s monsters. New Dynamic Events every areas and meta events Main areas. Later when all another areas are find again bored Arenanet could reveal new playable race and their starter areas and fun could start again.
Teq is not difficult, it is fun, even I haven’t beaten it at all, not even once.
Situation is this:
I go to the Sparkfly Fen to wait for Teq, there is no one else than me. Then Teq event starts and I am still alone, standing in platform and we are just staring each others. I jump down to the platform and point Teq to my finger. Then starts appearing all other monsters, and we start to dance together the very eyes of Teq. When my health start to lower down I jump to the platform and jump another place and another, until my health is back and then I jump back. We start to dance with other monsters again and Teq keeps his bone shield up and lurking behind of bones to see what’s going on another side. I am dancing and jumping with my little Asuran guy like this whole time when Teq is up. When Teq leaves I always wave after him and welcome him come back next time too. I will wait him alone again.
Yes, in my server, there is no one else than me doing Teq and man we have a party on the island. I think Teq is even little jealous, because he can not join to share our fun.
I was playing with my little Asuran guy and saw that Teq was attacking. I jump to the waypoint in Sparkfly Fen and got in Overflow, alone. I saw that Teq was standing very lonely looking in his place and I sat to the waypoint. We were staring each other for a while, until some Abominations and other minions spawn all over. Then I started to dance with those minions and Teq put his bonewall up. I think he was scared about me, because our dancing got really hectic in the island. I was jumping all around of platforms and avoid those enemies whole 15 minutes, didn’t hit even once Teq. Then Teq flew away and I wave after him and say that welcome back later.
That was the most funniest moment in my gaming life
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