Guild Wars 2

Kurogami.9210:

Isven.2165:

Astralporing.1957:

Isven.2165:

Voreo Sabrae.5416:

I don’t feel misled, i payed for the Physical C.E at launch and have gotten my moneys worth.

Having a tapeworm also doesn’t hurt.

What one has to do with the other?

GW2 pre-purchase affair apart: you may not feel misled, but the facts will state otherwise.

Which facts?

Please read again what I wrote (mainly, the “apart from the case of GW2HoT pre-purchase affair”). You’ll find your facts there.

Astralporing.1957:

Isven.2165:

Voreo Sabrae.5416:

I don’t feel misled, i payed for the Physical C.E at launch and have gotten my moneys worth.

Having a tapeworm also doesn’t hurt.

What one has to do with the other?

GW2 pre-purchase affair apart: you may not feel misled, but the facts will state otherwise.

Won’t stop gullible people from buying it, I’m afraid.

That was pretty cheap move.

But then again, I got no obligations to support Anet. So I won’t. Good day (and good riddance, I hear).

Reize.2176:

Skater.9281:

Bris.7984:

So many blind people around the community that have no marketing studies,just “eat” what they get like kids!Makes me “bleach” over…And this is why the world breaks down with this type of people…

Take a chill pill

He has a point. Originally people were screaming that there should rightfully be a character slot as standard issue in the expansion.

But then ANet paid lip service and just made the bare minimum by offering that slot for pre-purchase only, and everyone lapped it up as nectar despite the move having accomplished nothing that was originally asked for.

Spot on. Still not buying it, Anet.

TheDaiBish.9735:

Isven.2165:

Anyway, releasing new maps and content accessible for all not at the same date as content available only after paying was a good practice. And that’s all that is to read in my post. Don’t blow it out of proportions.

So why is it a bad practice on the release of an expansion day?

Adding new stuff at the same time when paid content is in this case makes me feel as if the occasion to release the free ones (the, from what I hear, neglected WvW) is there only becouse of the paid content. So while some players enjoy the free content, the ones who paid (and most probably some of them one use that WvW map) essentialy paid for someone else. Or, at least they can feel that way.
I think if the marketing branch didn’t already show that they don’t much care for player feelings, they may want to consider that.

RabbitUp.8294:

Anet wasn’t really making any meaningful new content,

HoT still doesn’t sound meaningful. From what I hear.

Coulter.2315:

You pushed a lot of buttons, just type “I retract my previous post” next time.

I think “redact” is more appropriate. Or “explain”, to be honest (since I quoted the exact thing I was calling “content”. The WvW map. But whatever, I’m not seeking gratification here).

TheDaiBish.9735:

Isven.2165:

I’m saying adding those should be aside from the expansion, on earlier or later date. Like the LS was. Releasing it now, after what I hear 3 years of nothing new, only states they won’t add such content if they don’t expect immediate compensation for it. At least that’s my impression.

I’m guessing you’re completely forgetting about EotM then? And new PvE maps? And Fractals? And the SPvP maps?

Regardless of whether you like them or not, these were all added way, way before ‘expecting immediate compensation’ in the form of the expansion.

Well, that was then. Now is now. Things aren’t really improving in company-client relationships since then, are they?
Anyway, releasing new maps and content accessible for all not at the same date as content available only after paying was a good practice. And that’s all that is to read in my post. Don’t blow it out of proportions.

TheDaiBish.9735:

Isven.2165:

TheDaiBish.9735:

You’re aware that the new WvW map will be available to those who don’t buy HoT as well, right?

And the ones to actually pay for it will be whoever buy HoT. A really bad way to introduce such content to the game.

Really? Given the nature of WvW, I’d say it’s better not to split the playerbase.

I’m saying adding those should be aside from the expansion, on earlier or later date. Like the LS was. Releasing it now, after what I hear 3 years of nothing new, only states they won’t add such content if they don’t expect immediate compensation for it. At least that’s my impression.

TheDaiBish.9735:

You’re aware that the new WvW map will be available to those who don’t buy HoT as well, right?

And the ones to actually pay for it will be whoever buy HoT. A really bad way to introduce such content to the game.

rapthorne.7345:

Just rushing out a statement without all the staff being on the same page would not go well

I fully agree with that. But on the other hand, look where the careful considaration of pre-purchase pricing got them ;>
(Unless, as some suggest, it was a sudden management decision. Unfortunately, we will never know)

Tried to watch it but when someone starts an argument with “I think this is what Anet thinks”, when he should start with facts I tend to close the tab.

From what you wrote he got his points right tho.

Nike.2631:

Vicariuz.1605:

you’ve missed the point entirely.

No. The blind outrage has missed the point.

The only outrage I feel is about people all around telling me how to feel or what opinion to have.

lordkrall.7241:

FullMetal.9620:

I’m fine with a higher price for good content. I’m not ok with the fact that rebuying base game is factored into that price.

It isn’t.
The price for the expansion is $50. The base game is added in for free to people that don’t have it.

Said it before, and I’ll say it again (becouse from what I hear, the content of HoT doesn’t seem enough to justify the price):

Isven.2165:

Hey, do you want to buy this awesome leather jacket for just 80k dollars? We will throw in a motorcycle for free!

(quoting yourself – done. Now to starting hearing voices and refering to yourself in third person!)

Nike.2631:

I will fully support your effort – from inside the new zones . Catch up when you’re able.

People like you is why we can’t have nice things in reasonable price :d

Please just stop reading forums! Just stop!

Ranatoa.4869:

The base game is included “free” and the price reflects the actual cost of the expansion. Compared to any other mmo this is fairly standard pricing for an expansion.

Hey, do you want to buy this awesome leather jacket for just 80k dollars? We will throw in a motorcycle for free!

It’s a sad day to see a pretty good game go down becouse of greedy management. Again.
How many times have we seen this already?

Teutos.8620:

Isven.2165:

Giving free GW2 with a copy of HoT means Anet (or whoever made that decision) thinks GW2 is now worthless (or at least, that’s how you can interpret it).

No, ANet thinks, that way they will attract more new players.

1 copy = easier to buy
cheaper = more will buy it

So f.e. if 100.000 new player would have bought it for 10€ core + 45€addon =5.500.000
Now if 123.000 new player buy it for the 45€ in combination => 5.535.000
+ bigger chance, that some of those 23.000 players will spent more money in the long run (through buying gems).

For us players: more new player to play with = more fun!

We both win!

Don’t take this the wrong way, but why would I give a kitten about new players? From the perspective of a “veteran” (which really isn’t mine), new players brings chaos. I’m not saying that it’s only bad news, but I do understand why some of the veteran players feel the need to express their disappointment.

Secondly, I think I added “at least, that’s how you can interpret it” to my post, concerning the tied core GW2 with HoT release.

Seeing as they change the FAQ without a blink of the eye, I think whatever they say isn’t worth a kitten.

briggah.7910:

Val.8265:

We did get something, the lower end of the stick.

Because we bought the game in 2012.

Because we supported them for 3 years.

Because we spend additional money with gems.

Because of us, they have the chance to make an expansion.

And because of that, we pay more for less value.

Ye, being a loyal player feels good.

Were you forced to purchased things with gems? No that was your choice.

A choice he/she made becouse he wanted to be fair, and see Anet fix bugs and keep the servers running, at the very least. Now Anet shows they don’t give a kitten about fairness. C’est la vie.

Teutos.8620:

Isven.2165:

Anet doesn’t care about the money they already made, but about the money they want/will make. A player should think different, why exactly?

What?

Let me put it differently:

Giving free GW2 with a copy of HoT means Anet (or whoever made that decision) thinks GW2 is now worthless (or at least, that’s how you can interpret it). Now then, since the time I spent playing core GW2 is gone and in the past, i don’t really care about it. In that case, players and management think alike.

Teutos.8620:

Old players already had a good time and lots of fun in the game. Is that nothing?

Would you prefer, you would not have bought the core game ages ago, not had a good time in the past year/month/weeks, so that you now might save ~10 bucks?

Anet doesn’t care about the money they already made, but about the money they want/will make. A player should think different, why exactly?

Another piece of info, regardless of anything on my part, it crashes about 10 minutes before a full hour (like 19:50)

So, after some tests It seems this happens at a regular basis of about 40-50 minutes.

Everything is fine after logging in, but after a random amount of time client freezes and, turns black and spits out a message:
“The game client was unable to connect to the log-in server. Please restart your client and try again.”

It started after the 15th april patch.

Nedlees to say, it’s annoying. Happened four times already.