I think the forums would explode if katniss and fellyn ever happened to post something positive about their WvW matchups, and so I thank the both for always being sourpusses of the first degree in basically every context.
Eh, don’t think it’s fair to paint the whole server with the whiner brush. Their biggest issue apparently was 2-3 randoms wasting their supply, rather than the portal bombing. Both are funny to cite as a unique complaint, don’t get me wrong. But there certainly seemed to be a few folks who were interested in learning the TOTES ELITE STAX tactic from the get-go and never labeled it an exploit but rather considered it for what it was.
iii(3 or 4 is?) in particular seemed keen to pick up new tricks and deserves credit for putting a bounty on counter-stack tactics. People should perhaps listen to him to figure out why and when you’d stack, however, since from what I hear the DH attempts at reappropriating the technique are falling flat…
I don’t think they should mess with point generation or population caps to address night capping; night capping isn’t the problem. It’s the fact that we’re doing weekly match-ups with server populations still in flux. Once free transfers are out, things should settle naturally.
Servers that benefit from night caps shouldn’t take it so personally when people point out the influence good 24hr coverage has on their score. Likewise, servers without the coverage shouldn’t complain and blame people for simply playing the game.
They aren’t of Maguuma. They weren’t sent by Maguuma, and we don’t know them. We don’t claim them, we won’t claim their actions.
We don’t endorse what they’re doing; they’re not ours. There’s nothing to be distanced from since we as a server are not guilty.
The problem has less to do with Maguuma and more to do with WvW and free/fast transfers. You’re confusing the two, and you’re angry that we won’t do the same.
Perhaps you’d have gotten more conciliatory replies if you’d brought it up with a different tone, instead of, “WELL, you know what you guys are doing. We were warned about you guys.” The constant claiming of a moral highroad is similarly off-putting when, from our perspective, you’re the one starting beefs.
@fellyn -
Wasn’t crying, I accept it as a part of gameplay; the server with the largest night presence tends to win. I’m sorry if you were offended because it wasn’t meant as a dig, just a statement.
@Arius -
I appreciate your more tempered approach. Worban started slinging mud at Maguuma en-masse on day one, when our servers were neck-and-neck. He’s been explicitly disrespectful in this instance so you’ll have to forgive me for not sharing your view on his posts. Whether he’s relating ‘the truth’, he also refuses to accept alternate explanations (or reality, as in the case of supply raiding being a widespread problem).
It is not being done by Maguuma and stop making that pathetic claim! My GW2 play has been entirely devoted to WvW since the first week of game’s release. I have never seen that done by our server. I’ve got it on reliable sources from friends who play in the upper tiers that you’re creating needless drama due to he-said, she-said rumors.
By your logic that all is fair, would you say creating bogus accounts to plant on enemy servers to burn supply is fair? Just curious because you’d be giving this community a good hint as to where to start looking for the culprits.
Your citations do not condone or excuse that, which is the problem using those citations to back your quote that “all’s fair”
This keeps getting repeated, but there have been no screenshots posted of these people, NOR apparently are you satisfied to hear that it’s happening on EVERY server, Maguuma included.
And before you say it — great, you were pre-warned about this clearly organized server-wide activity! Show us where these warnings about the shady tactics of Maguuma are being spread, ‘cause that’s another thing new to this match-up. Most of our opponents have been pretty favorable towards us, Ehmry Bay being the one notable exception.
Show us who’s doing it. I don’t believe they’re from Maguuma and won’t buy into the rumors until some proof is offered.
Hey all we have some plans to fix some of this. It is currently being looked at so expect a fix in the next few weeks. Basically we like that Portal has this power, but it shouldn’t be able to bypass walls, etc.
As for the problems with players not appearing this is a more difficult engine problem to solve. While we would like to solve it there are definitely counters to this strategy, because anyone doing it has just clumped up their entire team for AoE nuking. Ultimately if they outnumber you by a lot there are much more effective ways for them to kill you.
Jon
Hi Everyone,
All is fair in love and war – and as love, WvW is a battlefield.
There are exploits, I’ll give you that – but then there is coordinated effort to ensure your world or your team uses each and every resource they have to their advantage.
War is not fair, war is not pretty, war gets out the worst in us – and the best – and even if we have excluded open world pvp from the rest of the game, this is exactly what happens on the WvW maps: It is the ‘playground’ for strategists and great tacticians, it is the place for coordinated efforts and mean ideas in the middle of the night.
I respect lots of mags for pulling great tactics off, showed me a lot new stuff
Now im gonna use it against u.
Lets not stoop to their level Seal, we can beat them without it. Seriously I reported 6 people today that have built random rams near supply depots in our Keeps today wasting our supplies. And then I saw this a bunch of times.
Multiple body stacking to avoid AOE and their are about 20 people in that one spot. Abuse of game mechanics. Keep it up Maguuma your just making yourselves look bad.
We’ve used this strategy since release; every other server we’ve fought has used the same tactic or figured out how to counter it. This is the first time it’s kicked up such a fuss. It’s pretty funny, but also fairly perplexing!
I haven’t heard any screaming, just people who are bummed out from 8 weeks in a row of active night servers. The problem is exacerbated by mass guild transfers, and that’s where most peoples’ ‘anger’ (if it can be called that) is directed.
