Guild Wars 2

Zeonis.1962:

CaptainVanguard.4925:

HoT has too many bad design ideas that aernt just about casual friendly content, honestly its just a poor concept from the start making 4 zones that have group oriented content that will go stale in later game expansions.

This has nothing to do with casual friendly on that front, the casual friendly aspect, is the fact that prior to things like LS1, Fractals, and all that crap, GW2, was an entirley open game that allowed even the laziest player to enjoy it with ease even with some frustration, it wasnt without challenge, Orr was pretty bloody challenging to a solo player and frustrating at times.

But it was at least playable solo, except for that forced final fight with Zhaitan.

Other than that, the world was your oyster, if you wanted to do personal story a few levels lower than you should you could and still reaped the rewards for it. You could do alot of things that the game now forbids you access to.

Alot of changes were made poorly and dont really make any sense to have changed them at all.

E.g. Changing the dungeons multiple times from rush-runs where you rushed a boss to death to gold-sinks to removing even that makes them valueless if your not in the skin-farming market.

Or the fact that we never “had” raids, or fractals where the only content appeal was to a minority of people that wanted that kinda thing.

Its a case of a-net catering to a minority, that minority is a group of people that came from WoW, SWTOR, other mmo’s with group content they’re bored of and want to do it on another MMO, so they changed the casuals mmo into something “they” wanted.

Thats not how it should have gone, or should go.

There are MMO’s designed for people that “dont” want the challenge and should exist for people that “dont”.

So yeah.

GW2 was dying when the game was a purely “open world game”. This game has grown so much since the installations of grouped challenging content like Teq,Fractals, new map meta events and raids. In the end of the day Gw2 is an mmo and people want their characters to progress and obtain special things other players can’t obtain. That’s why grind and challenge exist in mmo’s if they didn’t all mmo’s would die off.

Not necessarily dying, but GW2 had a suffering longevity because of the lack of end game content, but the leveling experience and the open world aspect of the game was one of the most enjoyable parts of the game. Yes the game has grown but has in grown in the way the players want it to. I agree with half of your statement, at the end of the day people do want to to see their characters progress, but not necessarily how you entailed. An emotionally captivating story to see your character grow, new gear, skills, levels, weapons, new areas to explore, learning more about the about the world around you through lore,  companions and friends (this includes NPCs) to be made. These are all aspects of the “progress” that you had mentioned. At the end of the day, do players want things that other players can’t obtain? No I don’t think so. At the end of the day players want to have fun. Fun can be challenging, but it doesn’t have to be the stale grind that most mmos have fallen into, and there are examples of MMOs that are challenging but engaging enough where earning something new doesn’t feel like a grind. 

Zeonis.1962:

Jordan.5930:

I agree. I did not get into GW2 so I would have to grind to access gated content! There used to be a time when everything was simply layed out so players could enjoy the game. But now, instead of receiving tokens to get gear, why do I have to spend hours calculating the best use of my gold, to farm a list of mats, just to get ascended weapons to stay relevant, not just on one but on several different classes so I can enjoy different RPing and gameplay aspects, to then access raids. Maybe my sense of what is “fun” is warped, but to me, this is not fun. It might be rewarding, but that fleeting moment of joy does not outweigh the waste of time I could of spent actually enjoying the game.

Two gated content Raids and High level fractals. I’m glad it’s gated keeps crying scrubs like you out of this challenging fun content.

Obviously you hate games that are both challenging and respect the intelligence of its player base. There are other ways to keep the game competitive without it having to be boring or “grindy”. So instead of getting on people’s cases and using the word “scrub” try thinking about how you can improve the game in the best way possible.

I agree. I did not get into GW2 so I would have to grind to access gated content! There used to be a time when everything was simply layed out so players could enjoy the game. But now, instead of receiving tokens to get gear, why do I have to spend hours calculating the best use of my gold, to farm a list of mats, just to get ascended weapons to stay relevant, not just on one but on several different classes so I can enjoy different RPing and gameplay aspects, to then access raids. Maybe my sense of what is “fun” is warped, but to me, this is not fun. It might be rewarding, but that fleeting moment of joy does not outweigh the waste of time I could of spent actually enjoying the game.

Add more face presets. Especially for humans I would appreciate more Canthan Male faces. The max angle/squint on my characters just won’t do. Please add more faces with racial diversity!

I have a strong distaste for Angel wings and bat wings. Seeing someone run around in full celestial dye with a pair of Angel wings (or even worse full shadow abyss and a pair of black angel wings) is just obnoxious. It’s a terrible trope and it just looks bad. You’re not edgy, you’re not a god of death, you’re not some almighty angel. You are the physical representation of the name xXxDemonshadowAngelBoixXx. This is Guild Wars 2 not Aion online. How does everyone else feel about this? Was it a good design choice or do you feel like Anet just threw something random into the game that they know would sell? Personally I feel like wings are so out of place, and it would be better to just turn em into gliders.

There is a huge plus side to this though. I can’t even begin to describe the incredible power b()ner you get when you win a ranked match with the top score as a thief. Probably one of best experiences I’ve had, going into ranked matches with my friend, both of us thieves, winning with the two highest scores and talking massive kitten against the other team. Because they know they’ve been beaten by a proffesion that’s completely outclassed, not just by one, but by two of them. And they can’t say kitten, you’re just that good.

Belial.9350:

Jordan.5930:

vlad.4871:

Jordan.5930:

Nova Stiker.8396:

Jordan.5930:

Revenant is a high skill low reward class. At no point have I played the class and felt like it was OP.

You’re probably just bad or just using the wrong build.

I probably have 5 hours on my Revenant and can easily wreck face. Hell, all the top teams on the leaderboards are using 2-3 Revenants because they have stupid high DPS. Use Unrelenting Assault to bait 2 dodges, spam condi and when they use their condition removal then spam banish enchantment for GG.

Viper Heralds are incredibly overpowered.

No I don’t think so. Obviously you have no idea what you’re talking about.

And you are playing reve ye?

I play rev everyday. I think they’re even weaker than thieves. Thieves that’s an actual problem, stealth is so OP they need a nerf.

gr8 troll m8 i r8 8/8

The Jimmies were rustled

vlad.4871:

Jordan.5930:

Nova Stiker.8396:

Jordan.5930:

Revenant is a high skill low reward class. At no point have I played the class and felt like it was OP.

You’re probably just bad or just using the wrong build.

I probably have 5 hours on my Revenant and can easily wreck face. Hell, all the top teams on the leaderboards are using 2-3 Revenants because they have stupid high DPS. Use Unrelenting Assault to bait 2 dodges, spam condi and when they use their condition removal then spam banish enchantment for GG.

Viper Heralds are incredibly overpowered.

No I don’t think so. Obviously you have no idea what you’re talking about.

And you are playing reve ye?

I play rev everyday. I think they’re even weaker than thieves. Thieves that’s an actual problem, stealth is so OP they need a nerf.

Nova Stiker.8396:

Jordan.5930:

Revenant is a high skill low reward class. At no point have I played the class and felt like it was OP.

You’re probably just bad or just using the wrong build.

I probably have 5 hours on my Revenant and can easily wreck face. Hell, all the top teams on the leaderboards are using 2-3 Revenants because they have stupid high DPS. Use Unrelenting Assault to bait 2 dodges, spam condi and when they use their condition removal then spam banish enchantment for GG.

Viper Heralds are incredibly overpowered.

No I don’t think so. Obviously you have no idea what you’re talking about.

Revenant is a high skill low reward class. At no point have I played the class and felt like it was OP.

Dejavu.2349:

I am a huge GW2 fan – I’ve brought many people to the game and have been playing since beta, but the reasons I’ve had to come back to this game between every other MMO are pretty much gone.

I’ve played every major MMO from it’s launch through it’s content at launch. Some games (SWTOR, for instance) I get done with all available content before they’ve even finished the intended starting content, so I leave… and I don’t come back. Ever. Other games take a while longer (like WoW expansions, which I stopped buying after Cataclysm or Rift), but when I left, I left. It was done. Finished. Over. GW2 has been my mainstay since it’s launch and, sadly, it won’t be for much longer due to the fact that I can no longer experience all it’s content without being in a guild. A big guild, at that.

The primary reason I kept coming back to GW2 was that I could see all of it’s content without having to deal with people (I’m always a guild/raid leader in other games and that just wears me down) and still be as relevant as I was when I started a break – sometimes a couple of weeks, sometimes a couple of months; I knew the same great game would be waiting for me when I came back. And I put a lot of hard-earned cash into this game because I loved it so much and it earned it.

That has changed and this is why:
https://goo.gl/ZXBiva
I made a little spreadsheet of the required materials just for Resotration 1-affiliated builds in the Guild Hall. This isn’t nearly a quarter of the materials needed to get to the actual content like Weaponsmith 2’s, which require completion of nearly all builds in restoration 2 and a guild level of 40.

So, basically, not only can my small guild not even claim it’s own Guild Hall with it’s 2 or 3 people (family – pretty much the only people I can stand any more), but we have to get to guild level 40 and get an insane amount of materials – like completely impossible within the expected lifetime of this game (my kids will be through college before I was able to grind out all materials)- in order to fully experience the game.

I’m done.
I’ll play until I leave (again) for another game, but this time, I’ll have a WHOLE LOT LESS reason to come back. Right now, the MMO field is pretty sparse and dry, so I’m good for a while…. But I’m extremely disappointed that my refuge game is now just another game in a pile of grindy games that require I pretend to like other people. I just won’t do it. Unlike some people, I’m not a pretender… I really am incapable of feigning interest any more.

Hey OP, I understand how you feel. I’m a casual player, and for a long time I rolled without a guild. It sucks, it really does, to be locked from certain content. I’d like to help you find that refuge again. I joined a guild a while back, it has a lot of nice people in it. It might be out of your comfort zone but if you’d like to join, just to see how you fit in, we’d be happy to take you (we even have our own guild hall!) 10-12 of us are usually online at a time, my character’s name is Jyuzo, you can also message me using my tag, please don’t quit! I hope you can keep having fun

Muchacho.2390:

Well i am not even sure that Anet even wants to balance elite spec vs core spec. I get the feeling thier long term goal is to include more elite specs and balance elite spec vs elite spec.

This. I wouldn’t mind this, I just hope they come out with some new elite specs soon, especially for thief and warrior. Thieves need a pirate and assassin elite spec. Hopefully thieves and warriors get some buffs, either way I’d be happy.

Well at least if you get ascended you can play. I keep getting kicked as a thief with full ascended gear because I’m “useless” and “outclassed”.

incisorr.9502:

what “META” dude, ROFL. The game got broken as kitten because Anet went the greedy road and released ridiculous and overpowered specs only to get more cash and then they decided to silence everyone with bans instead of responding to them properly or logically like they used to do in the past,
now they are just like every other kittenty cash grabbing company.

Im gonna list the problems with this game in a short and understandable manner so maybe if we’re lucky the ceo of arena net is gonna be checking forums while drunk and see my post by chance and then on the next morning get a brain and fix the game

- the elite specs are kittening overpowered as kitten
- before when you wanted to do something you had to sacrifice something else for it, for example to do dmg you had to sacrifice survivabiltiy (unless you were mesmer cause the class is a joke) , now with the new specs you can be tanky as kitten and do 500 million damage (daredevil tempest chronocancer reaper revenant,DRAGONHUNTER, etc)
there are too many skills that give you “the good type of survivability” which is invulnerability (and not hp or protection) so you can easily make a huge dmg build while being immortal most of the time
- theres even more cheese in the game
- the quickness change/nerf/most ridiculous and useless update completely butchered warriors up and now they are unplayable on a higher level in pvp because half of your skills are slow as hell and you can’t burst / do unexpected quick burst damages for kitten
- The problem is that it doesn’t matter if HoT is b2p because even if you buy hot, you can still get someone without hot in your team and be handicapped because of it. So arena net has to either make the expansion B2p , either make the elite specs available for spvp to people with only the base game or this kitten will forever remain imbalanced, due to the fact that the elite specs are a joke and that half of the people have no access to them and that affects you (even if you have HoT) as well because the game format is 5v5 in the end.

I don’t know how kittening hard is it to see these things or think about them beforehand, you have to remember and understand that these people are ‘professionals’ and get paid to do this , yet the decisions they take are utterly kittened.

Also D/D vs shoutbow wasn’t even bad because both of them had clear flaws – no disengage, focus them with 2 ppl in a team fight and they melt, especially shoutbow warrs. The meta wasn’t bad at all cus zerker builds worked then too and there was more to it than just shoutbow or d/d.

plus the patch before HoT was the most balanced one i’ve played because both raw dmg and condi dmg builds were more or less fair on all classes (especially warriors) and there werent clear favorites

heart of throrns is the worst thing to happen to this game’s pvp

Bumping this so the world will know of Anets sin

And it fell on Anets deaf ears

Jesus kittening Christ, for the love of God Anet, please read this post!!! Some sort of sign, acknowledgment to this problem.

I think this class could work. But the name would be something along the lines of Myrmidon or Swordmaster. They would be locked to two handed, one handed, shortbow and longbow. Maybe even that sheathed blade as a new weapon class.