Guild Wars 2

Aran.8659:

“This is from a ATM commander: “And those who didn’t get to see my post, right now SEA time only left ATM, FOO (I believe is coming back) and GE as the main forces and we are trying to break SOR’s SEA morale by washing away all their tier 3 keeps if possible and let their kitteny EU forces feel the pinch. We do not know whether it will work or not but we do know we are having so much fun doing that. So bear with us guys, we will continue that until either major WVW guilds joined us or make SOR break up. This is how we did to SOS and hopefully it will work on SOR.”

SOR I look forward to watching you guys crash and burn

What a great, very first post you’ve made! Glad to see you’re as active on the official forums as the rest of us are. Love your posting history, amazing job keeping things positive! <3

Vash.9183:

LetoII.3782:

And now the real question,
Since his stated goal is to break SoRsea, Would it be in SoR’s best interest to break JQna.. I’m talking 0ppt camp their spawn all night finish off JQna.

And which is more likely to happen? Who remembers TW in JQ garrison every night, all night? good times eh?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CosDdf1dT_o

Why do that to JQ NA? They’ve been SoR’s biggest guild since BG hit tier 1. SF and SG are in BG bl basically every day, lol.

Lol I’m starting to feel sorry for all that work SF and SG put into making sure SoR remained number 1. :/

Aran.8659:

“This is from a ATM commander:”

Well I guess just because you said it’s from an ATM commander, it must automatically be true!

interwebz gullibility has reached an all time high…

magikfox.9658:

Vash.9183:

Burl.9567:

Vash.9183:

Sardonia.8196:

Vash.9183:

Cicero.3492:

Aran.8659:

“This is from a ATM commander: “And those who didn’t get to see my post, right now SEA time only left ATM, FOO (I believe is coming back) and GE as the main forces and we are trying to break SOR’s SEA morale by washing away all their tier 3 keeps if possible and let their kitteny EU forces feel the pinch. We do not know whether it will work or not but we do know we are having so much fun doing that. So bear with us guys, we will continue that until either major WVW guilds joined us or make SOR break up. This is how we did to SOS and hopefully it will work on SOR.”

SOR I look forward to watching you guys crash and burn

So I am confused here, what you are trying to say is that in order to get more guilds to join you, you have to PvDoor more? And that PvDoor is fun?

No, that is not what he was saying with that part. By that part, he just simply meant that he’s going to keep doing that until they get more wvw guilds to actually shoot for 1st. Until then, he’s saying they are having fun messing with SoR’s EU by scaring off SoR SEA.

Edit: Like that guy from SoR SEA just said, JQ doesn’t pvdoor them. By saying JQ pvdoor’s, you’re basically saying that your SEA guilds are non-existent.

Not sure who they think they are going to scare off. SoR does not have that hight os SEA players to scare off. They do what they can to the best of their abilities against the 2vs1 which is a fair tactic. However, JQ is basically handing the win to BG by doing this. I would think they would want some type of challenge and not just PvD all day long. I would not find that fun but to each their own I guess.

Um… since when does JQ PvD “all day long?” Lol. I was on JQ for a while and followed ATM and they always had a lot to fight. SoR does have decent sized SEA zergs, I don’t care if you have stayed up to see them or not. SAHP/SONG work together nicely. Then SoR EU starts logging in and suddenly… ATM is fighting IRON and KISS, who would have guessed it. IRON/KISS fight ATM every day because SEA guilds are still online when EU starts.

Do you see where this is going?

No.

Of course you don’t. You didn’t have to say anything. Let me point it out for you, though. ATM is not happy with SoR’s EU zergs that they run in to at the end of their shifts. The end.

gg

ATM always seem to be upset about something though. They have the impulses of an angry monkey.

ATM is an amazing guild, I don’t know why the SoR community is so keen on trying to put them down all the time…

Shifty.4985:

BG call in all the PvE’ers, nice
Keeping it Classy

Sethanon Stormrage.6721:

Kathy K.6812:

HB= 15-20 players

IRON= 200+

Not sure why you would give such a small guild so much attention, especially in a time slot where SoR is the clear winner

Only 15-20? http://i.imgur.com/Mqrj4fv.jpg

Iron do not have 200+ members, gotta love where you pull these numbers from.
We run with 30-40 people, with that falling back to around 25 after 10.30 BST.

And HB give good fights, thats why they get our attention. Its just a shame its so hard to get them to fight, and when they do its always with a blob I dont mind the numbers.. its that dam lag!

Thanks for taking a screenshot of the entire Blackgate EU force with less than 20 HB present. Really shows how well BG can work with lesser numbers and still be effective against the huge zergs IRON and KISS put out for SoR.

(edit: That is exactly 19 HB tags)

Omnitek.3876:

Kathy K.6812:

Starscream.7803:

Well, we know that Smokee and HB is online, and I have posted where IRON is playing. Maybe we only heard half of the story, maybe it was they was coming for IRON while we was sleeping like the boogie man?
It kinda makes sense, they made their “excuses” to avoid a GvG and we will be easier targets with half of us offline xD

MEEEEEOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!

HB= 15-20 players

IRON= 200+

Not sure why you would give such a small guild so much attention, especially in a time slot where SoR is the clear winner

Today, IRON had queued all 4 WvW maps

Yeah I heard about that… I feel sorry for KISS not being able to get into any BL’s.

Starscream.7803:

Kathy K.6812:

Starscream.7803:

Well, we know that Smokee and HB is online, and I have posted where IRON is playing. Maybe we only heard half of the story, maybe it was they was coming for IRON while we was sleeping like the boogie man?
It kinda makes sense, they made their “excuses” to avoid a GvG and we will be easier targets with half of us offline xD

MEEEEEOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!

HB= 15-20 players

IRON= 200+

Yeah, i defo see that many people in our guild roster…………………….

Just sayin’. If you’re going to call out a guild, call out one that is as big as yours and fields as many players as you do…

Which might be kind of hard considering BG & JQ don’t have any guilds during EU as large as IRON; or for that matter even as large as KISS :/

Starscream.7803:

Well, we know that Smokee and HB is online, and I have posted where IRON is playing. Maybe we only heard half of the story, maybe it was they was coming for IRON while we was sleeping like the boogie man?
It kinda makes sense, they made their “excuses” to avoid a GvG and we will be easier targets with half of us offline xD

MEEEEEOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!

HB= 15-20 players

IRON= 200+

Not sure why you would give such a small guild so much attention, especially in a time slot where SoR is the clear winner

Kryyg.8576:

HB rarely runs untagged, they usually have a map zerg behind them.

How are you going to do that?

That’s completely untrue… HB almost always runs untagged but the pugs seem to find them and follow anyways :P

Burl.9567:

Punny.9210:

well another fact is SoR also pvdoor pretty much during NA time as well because of

their overwhelm numbers during that time. ( especially early NA )

It’s shame for BG though. >>

Did someone seriously say BG gets PvD during NA prime? I’m at a loss for words…

Early NA = NA EST

BG is known to lack an NA EST presence.

LostBalloon.6423:

Titan.3472:

Now I am just waiting that JQ server implodes and transfer over TC to give them a run to T1 that they ll fight heavy for at least. JQ times are over please consider giving your rank to TC. If every JQ wvw oreinted guilds transfer over TC you might get a real retaliation and boost moral effect unlike staying in JQ. Anyway JQ won’t be able to hold their T1 rank forever better jump out before it s too late

The only way JQ is guaranteed to drop T1 is if SoR and BG focus them, but with the “rivalry” it will never happen.

I like JQ, great server and great people… Would hate to see them go :/

Amazing guild, very well coordinated

Mance.5640:

JQ’s “strategic problem” was fixed a couple patches ago with the addition of AOE looting while we are farming BG/SoR zergs.

Also JQ NA is usually ahead of BG ppt for the majority of the week, and our SEA is excellent as usual.

I’d have to agree with you that Blackgate could definitely use more NA particularly during the EST time zone… There’s a huge gap from SEA to BG’s NA strong point.

I completely agree with this

Kreamciqul.4617:

/salute to Choo for the GvG tonight. Was a blast.

For those wondering, final score

RISE : 5
Choo: 0

Well done RISE

Burl.9567:

Waage.2047:

Offski.4897:

MagiKarp.8201:

I don’t think so Renmei

Oceanic no way,

SEA maybe, but if SoR had the same SEA as BG (they have more than JQ now) it would be that fabled “HoD 2.0”.

But I don’t think SoR needs any help in SEA right now as they have the sweetest ride in every other timezone. Only reason recently we’ve been able to break SoR’s WP’s during SEA is because ATM isn’t kicking us in the sides every night, I mean they could so easily make us lose this matchup by focusing nothing but us, but Waha isn’t a fool.

It would be interesting to see how well jq would do if ATM actually fought for points for jq, tried to upgrade jq’s keeps/border etc rather than focusing sor with yourselves.

I agree though it is what helps BG compete with SoR. Bg does ok during EU time until east coast NA starts to come on, the real problem for BG is NA and I have no idea why BG does not perform better in that timezone.

That is how every thing is. Also is it true about the 3rd EU guild that have come over to SoR Night something something

We are in talks with 6 SEA guilds, 3 Oceanic guilds and 2 Euro guilds. We are looking to get the money together for their transfers.

I found something pretty interesting relating to that subject, remember this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRoV9zT18Sc&t=1m51s

Shifty.3412:

renmei.3102:

SOR definitely needs a few more asian and oceanic wvw guilds, but is certainly stacked in both NA and EU and needs no more guilds in those timezones. I hope even the BG and JQ trolls can agree on this -__-

Yah, IRON and KISS, 2 actual EU guilds makes the timezone stacked when BG has 2 EU guilds of their own, not our fault that the BG ones are useless

You can add up the amount of players from the 2 BG EU guilds, multiply it by 4, and it still won’t be as much as one of the EU guilds from SoR.

Hawkeye.4698:

Kathy K.6812:

Azure.8412:

Vash.9183:

So SoR has had 300-375 ppt average all day ever since EU, and it is about to be SEA time yet BG is so extremely stacked that we are borderline Vizunah Square according to SoR posters.

I don’t even. SoR 440 ppt, best Oceanic. huehuehuehue

Sorry Vash, but don’t you ever get sick of constantly whining about coverage? It’s pretty evident BG has the best overall coverage. What you see right now is simply our drunk NA at work. Trust me, SoRs ppt is never that good in Oceanic. BG still has the best Oceanic coverage with ND, MERC, CA, WM, XF and NOC. I believe XF, ND and WM are SEA, but some of them start early almost everyday to help MERC and co. Don’t worry, things wont be so lopsided soon. Overtime does not mean better coverage.

Lol drunk NA doesn’t get you over 300 PPT all throughout the day and 440+ PPT during Oceanic/SEA.

That’s called over-stacking your server… I hope JQ and BG can get more transfers to balance out against SoR’s ridiculous coverage.

I’m sorry BG does not need any more transfers, you guys already have enough. If you don’t know what over-stacked means, look at your server and SoR. Both of your servers are stacked, get over it.

Any server that easily ticks 300+ PPT all throughout the day any time they want is a stacked server… SoR has a huge presence 24/7 & it’ll be tough for any server to compete unless the other 2 servers get the coverage to balance things out.

Rednik.3809:

Kathy K.6812:

Lol drunk NA doesn’t get you over 300 PPT all throughout the day and 440+ PPT during Oceanic/SEA.

That’s called over-stacking your server… I hope JQ and BG can get more transfers to balance out against SoR’s ridiculous coverage.

- But we dont have any recent transfers…

Dat forum troll logic.

I’m fairly certain KISS & SONG were recent…

Azure.8412:

Vash.9183:

So SoR has had 300-375 ppt average all day ever since EU, and it is about to be SEA time yet BG is so extremely stacked that we are borderline Vizunah Square according to SoR posters.

I don’t even. SoR 440 ppt, best Oceanic. huehuehuehue

Sorry Vash, but don’t you ever get sick of constantly whining about coverage? It’s pretty evident BG has the best overall coverage. What you see right now is simply our drunk NA at work. Trust me, SoRs ppt is never that good in Oceanic. BG still has the best Oceanic coverage with ND, MERC, CA, WM, XF and NOC. I believe XF, ND and WM are SEA, but some of them start early almost everyday to help MERC and co. Don’t worry, things wont be so lopsided soon. Overtime does not mean better coverage.

Lol drunk NA doesn’t get you over 300 PPT all throughout the day and 440+ PPT during Oceanic/SEA.

That’s called over-stacking your server… I hope JQ and BG can get more transfers to balance out against SoR’s ridiculous coverage.

MagiKarp.8201:

@SleepingDragon

Yes they do, as do we on every map that MERC isn’t on during Oceanic, yesterday we were “Outnumbered” on BG BL with MERC on map till SoR’s NA logged out.

They are ticking 300 because they’ve logged from EU to NA held their T3 objectives meaning they can go on the offensive. It stays at 300 ppt because HiRE, TW et al can waypoint into a t3 keep or continue to push a map zerg onto our paper keeps in our home bl / 1/2 offensive bls (usually) that is why it stays at 300 ppt, numbers isn’t everything in WvW, SoR can survive its apparently “weak” timezones due to having t3 with map zergs inside, but if you look at ppt today for example, SoR’s NA pushed into oceanic and held 300-400 ppt. SEA rocks round we flip all their wps and bring them down to 95 ppt but that doesn’t last long as we spent all sea getting them there then bang, EU hits our SEA logs out SoR’s ppt goes back to 250+ and BG+JQ do not have the forces to keep pressure up that SoR has through KISS, IRON, LUN, TW and their massive EST NA presence so that our BG PST logs in after 4-6 hours of SoR being able to t3 their bl and thirds ready for NA.

Also our NA fights bloody hard anyone calling them weak, I’d love to see you push back from SoR’s EU/EST domination on days that HB/RK do not raid, SoR can’t deny that from EST NA they have all their maps covered. BT is our only 100% EST NA guild.

SoR’s just jelly cuz MERC isn’t on their server :P

kyro.8162:

Ferris Bewler.9706:

Ok with all the RG talk I would like to interject that KnT has had the opportunity to fight them not GVG but open field on many occasions, on both of their visits to NA tier 1. Just because you don’t GVG them doesn’t mean tha your a crap guild. Believe me we have fought them more times than some of you have GVGed them. Matter of fact I think they have a video of about the nastiest 3 way fight you’ll ever see in GW 2 between us RG and VOTF in the dredge tunnel in EB. But just because we don’t GVG doesn’t mean that we didn’t seek out fights with them.

And another thing , for all the SOR players saying BGs NA is weak, it may no be our strongest time slot, but we have plenty of guilds in that time that you have a ton of trouble facing. So yeah we has a strong oceanic group but I’m tired of you saying BGs NA is crap. If hats the case then the rest of SORs guilds that don’t play prime time NA are also, well terrible. Even though that’s not true, that’s what SOR would have you believe about BGs NA. Get over yourselves.

The real reason people are calling BGs NA weak is because they want BGs NA to try to prove them wrong.
BG
NA (11): KnT, ICOA, BT, RISE, GOF, ATAC, RIOT, RUIN, WORK, RESO, OnS
SoR
NA (11): TW, FEAR, Tsym, Choo, LUN, Hel, PLUM, BMS, CAPS, VNG, HL
Those are all the NA guilds I remember seeing out in force for a majority of the week. It may be outdated as I haven’t been online in a few weeks, but overall BG and SoR has comparable NA.

Lol you make it sound like SoR always has PPT lead during NA… That isn’t always the case & frankly I’m surprised they don’t. They get carried hard by their EU which leads into NA EST. Blackgate lacks NA EST but still puts up a competitive fight against SoR’s stacked NA EST presence.

In NA PST BG is the clear winner.

Fannwong.3059:

Hello Kathy K,

/notroll

Thanks for pointing SOR that our SEA is weak in numbers, we do try out best against Merc/WM. It does get difficult at times but we will fight as hard as we can. See you on the battlefield.

It’s weak because they don’t try hard enough… They have more than enough numbers to be competitive in SEA but there are just too many fairweather players during that time for them.

It’s a shame that they decide not to come out and play like a real T1 server community would.

Hoots.9564:

Wonder what would happen if Merc left BG. That NA they carry is quite weak

The same thing that would happen if IRON left SoR. That SEA they carry is quite weak

MagiKarp.8201:

SoR 375 ppt

Full Queues all maps, stacked! Stacked! huehuehuehuehue

they were actually over 405 PPT :P

LostBalloon.6423:

Raif.9507:

MagiKarp.8201:

Haha, I was wrong last week…

Not one new guild, they were courting 14 bahahaha.

“We often turn away guilds for sake of balance” ahahaha my sides.

You can’t be serious that you actually bought that… right? Please? I need SOME faith in people. Tell me you’re actually trolling, because cuddles just keeps talking the world of you and I’d like to believe her (since shes cuddles and all).

Yes he bought all that, and on top of it, if you look at last weeks posts, he removed his comments and i look like im having a conversation with myself because he realized he was being trolled after we invited him to that guild. Not only that, but he got HB to head hunt our little lowbie train (that actually wiped them a few times, so sad -_-, guess they are used to too much PvDoor)

I wouldn’t blame him, they call it Sanctum of Recruiting for a reason.

Peetee.9406:

Yawn…………..

Don’t be too excited hahah

Nakoor.1980:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-5eAXe8gqM

Here’s a video for those of you stuck in Que. Enjoy!

That was a good fight, almost as good as the RG vs TW one… How’d that go anyways?

Laylyn.6018:

May this week be the best yet. Also a shake up match up would be welcome. =)

/salute

Lucky 27 for SoR and BG, the feud goes on

pot.6805:

Grats BG on the win last week. Had amazing fights against SoR and JQ!

Good luck to everyone this week!

Definitely! Last week was intense I hope to see the same stuff this week

Live Score Updates
Live Map Updates

This will be Blackgate & Sanctum of Ralls 27th week together
Good luck/have fun everyone… Let’s keep this thread clean!

pot.6805:

So they supposedly turned away an EST guild because they already have insane NA q times and didn’t want them to be longer! How noble and unselfish of them! Cut me a break.

Too bad they didn’t treat EU the same way, seems all they want to do is stack up that timezone with more and more guilds

Zen.8497:

Also, keep in mind that SoR has directed guilds to BG

Lol this is totally untrue, unless it were to ruin Blackgate.

Lemrish.5970:

I believe SOR is the only server to ever reach NA T1 and never have what it takes to pull out a last minute victory. Even with their overwhelming numbers, they seem to quit when their opponents put in extra hours and provide fights in time zones they are used to PvDoor in. What a shame.

I completely agree, they have enough numbers to pull a win anytime they want. Their tactics to keep recruiting more and more isn’t going to help them if the entire server gives up. I feel like as soon as KISS came over they just haven’t been pushing as hard as they used to…

Offski.4897:

Yep Smokee we quake with fear whenever we see you guys.

The 2vs1 is blatant.

I’m tired of seeing these 2v1 excuses… Every server gets 2v1’d during different times, SoR BG and JQ are no exception.

Hope to see the same servers on reset GL & HF all!

Robot Chocken.7012:

On a different note I would like to mention I actually went out and got my daily in pve for the first time ever. It was an odd feeling…

Hahah I wish they made getting ascended more WvW friendly

Robot Chocken.7012:

Vash.9183:

Brutus.5732:

Vash.9183:

Uhh. SF attacks BG basically every day, and they’re in JQ. Just because 1 guild in 1 timezone attacks you doesn’t mean the whole server is against you. Come on. That same JQ guild that everyone is crying about has focused mainly Blackgate for months.

Check out the income evolution graph for this week. Note where all of your ppt lead came from.

Note that our SEA can hold their own. Note that this is a 3 server match up. Note that 2v1 has to happen in 3 way match-ups- it is a natural occurrence.

Note that all 3 servers in this current match have been 2v1’d.

Wow lol. I see several SoR typing down about our JQ server yet I see few JQ doing the same in return. As is said all the time quit complaining about 2 vs 1 it is not the “proud” way to be. Other than our NA prime JQ is usually targeted the most because we have less coverage and servers think we are the easier points. We were used to being double teamed while in first place and used to it now. Who cares?

SoR apparently blames JQ for their loss this week :P

Kjendar.6459:

Great job on the win BG.
If the matchup is SoR/BG/TC is AGG and PRO going to transfer to TC

Lol just because AGG and PRO aren’t biased on who they attack doesn’t mean they are working with Blackgate.

hammer.9721:

You can tell the character of a person or in this case server by how they react to a defeat.Gratz bg didnt think you had it in you to mount a comeback.

Sanctum of Recruiting complains about 2v1 when they lose; and yet they’ve won 6 out of the 8 weeks we’ve been playing against each other without any 2v1 complaints….

Anyone have any statistics on who we might end up facing for reset?

Maiden England.3491:

its crazy how detailed everything was last night. JQ on one side of the keep, and BG on the opposite side. when bg couldnt cap the keep, jqs zerg ran in and capped it. about 5 minutes later it was BGs. its remarkable what you can do when you take sides.

No reason to accuse BG and JQ of 2v1’ing. SoR clearly has the coverage to defend against any zerg…

salluks.6017:

Fuzzion.2504:

MagiKarp.8201:

240/255/200

JQ managed to break BG Bay finally, go SF.

BG just flipped SM.

http://mos.millenium.org/na/matchups/map/814

NICE work SF

what , was this to show SOR that u guys are fighting each other?

yep we fell for it!

on another note, am curios if the ATM zerg hit BG even once this whole week even if accidentally.

It’s called WvWvW for a reason…

I would recommend either JQ, TC or DB. Definitely not SoR

Elano.2014:

Kiff.8157:

I think I spotted some TFV on SOR tonight. JQ and BG have never pretended to be abused by other servers to get more guild transfer. Thumbs up to JQ they fight like true warrior every SEA night despite having least number among three servers. So SOR…..show some spunk. Enough with the pretending. Show me that SEA guilds like NYS and SAHP still worth my respect.

SoR has the least number in SEA between the 3 servers.

But they’ve already been the number 1 server for over a month, excluding the defeat they got 1 week which was followed by a huge EU guild transferring to SoR the following week.

covenn.7165:

Kathy K.6812:

I wouldn’t doubt SoR is doing poorly to try and get TFV to sympathize and move over. We’ve seen them do this time and time again.

As a SoR player, I can tell you that this comment is not even close to reality based.

I wish I can say SoR doesn’t purposely do poorly just to get transfers; but we’ve seen it happen twice already. I wish I was wrong covenn, but history tends to repeat itself more often than not especially when it comes to SoR.

As a player from Blackgate, I can say that this is truly an amazing guild. I hope JQ gets more transfers to be able to compete with Blackgate and especially overstacked SoR.

I wouldn’t doubt SoR is doing poorly to try and get TFV to sympathize and move over. We’ve seen them do this time and time again.

Could have sworn SoR had their own community forum where you can post threads specifically for SoR eyes only.

&SoR has never ticked below 20PPT unless they are trying to get a huge guild over, just like they did with IRON & KISS. My guess is they’re trying to get TFV now.

MagiKarp.8201:

I redact my statement about TFV, the TFV I saw was a dual repping SONG guild member, sorry for dragging TFV’s name into this thread, but the causality is always there, every week BG has won since the last JQ victory SoR has received a new guild.

I wouldn’t be surprised MagiKarp… They’re more than likely trying to get a new guild. SoR NEVER ticks below 30PPT unless it’s on purpose.