Guild Wars 2

AzureNightmare.3914:

So, am I the only one here who thinks there’s already plenty of grinding in this game? I’m talking about the personal story- having to run through areas hoping for events to start to level up before doing the next quest. Where’s the complaints on that? GW1 never had it, but i’ve never seen anybody complain over it.

I love roleplaying this game and playing with friends, but if you’re more interested in the plot rather than mass events with others, this game has been a serious level grinder since day 1- hell, I play with friends in events and explore for fun and it’s still a pain to make that 2-3 level gap every time.

If you’re going to criticize this for being against the spirit of the original Guild Wars, why don’t you criticize the lack of AIs you can really fight with, lack of ability to chose all your skills rather than just a few that aren’t set by your weapons, and being able to truly play this on your own? Even if you want to play solo, you still have to do events that will require certain player participation rather than being able to tackle it head on.

And, dat level grinding.

I never played GW1 so can’t comment on that but for me the thing that made me endure the times that felt like grinding was that at least there was an end to it that I could look forward to.
I also didn’t run around looking for events to fill levels, when I came to a point where the mobs where to high level I would go do some crafting, exploration or wvw (in other words, stuff I enjoy doing).

Loosifah.4739:

Because I’m actually staying with the game I enjoy and I’m here for discussion. All of you are just whining “I’m leaving” repeatedly and not doing it.

Being on a forum is not the same as staying and playing a game.
I’m here because up until a couple of days ago when the announcement came out I absolutely loved the game and played 10+ hours/day. Now I have all this free time so I choose to spend just a little bit of it here to express my disappointment.

Yams.3859:

Yams.3859:

For those who are not happy with the stat increase, why don’t we decide on a day where no one logs into the game for a day? A weekend day (say Saturday Nov 24, one week after the content update, starting GMT 0:00 for 24 hours) would have the largest impact as player logins are highest. The benefits are two-fold:
1) For those claiming that this direction alienates a majority of the playerbase, ANet will have some concrete numbers to work with. It could be the case that much of what we see here is grandstanding and we are all happily chasing giant crabs to care, or ANet might see a 50% drop in playerbase for that period.
2) Talk is cheap. If we all feel as strongly about this as the forum posts suggest, we need to do more than complain.

This is only a suggestion and we should decide on its merits or lack-thereof after this weekend once we have a better idea of how frequently Ascended loop drops and what the Infusions are.

Just some thoughts.

Now that Ascended gear is here for good, I’d like to bring back my earlier suggestion. What are people’s interests in this? Any traction?

Yes sure, count me in, any and all days work for me. I’ve already made my last log in. As long as the endless stat grind is here, I’m not.

Hello.
After the news about the upcoming changes to the game I’m no longer interested in supporting the game through gem purchases and thus would like to remove my credit card information.
How can I do that? I’ve been looking around but haven’t found a way to.

I used to play 10+ hours a day and would finish up my work as quickly as possible just to get back into the game.. After the announcement I haven’t logged in once.
Well my employer will be happy now at least..

If this is what what comes with new content from anet then I have to say no too.

No update at all would have been better than what we’re getting imo.. This update (revamp) killed the game for me.

Fungalfoot.7213:

Snerf.1650:

I understand Anet looking for neat end game things. That’s great.

Why not look towards things like a Hall of Monuments or player housing or some other ways to get neat stuff that doesn’t directly raise player combat stats.

There are lots of neat options out there.

Absolutely. There are far more meaningful ways to show progression than numbers. For example, why not let us do something with our personal instances? Instead of devoting all these resources to creating a treadmill which nobody wants devote them to creating actual progression within the world.

Probably because it costs much less resources to make up numbers than for example design new gear for cosmetics.

I’m not surprised that the new items are jewelry as they don’t have to design new looks for the items that way.

Ostra.3927:

I will also let my “friends” invites sit and rot because the people that had a SLIGHT interest in GW2 was because it didnt have gear treadmill. Those I would have invited will not buy the game anyway because of this change.

Same here.
I convinced my friends to join me in both warhammer online and in swtor at launch and in both games they all left disappointed within a few weeks.
This time around I waited too see for myself if the game actually where any good and to see if I thought the game would be fun for both me and my friends long term before trying to convince them again.
A few days ago I started talking about gw2 with them and said I think they would enjoy it. The reply I got where that they where sick of the same old gear grind all over again and had no interest in mmo’s anymore because of that.
And then I told them “well that’s great because gw2 doesn’t have gear progression it’s only for cosmetics” and some of them got a bit exited and said they where willing to give it a try.

And now this…

Luckily they haven’t bought the game yet or they would have been as disappointed as I am..

fixit.7189:

I uh can’t even play right now; for past few hours I just been starring at this forums. I am in shock after hearing this total 180. Ugh…

yup same here, and I haven’t even slept yet (it’s 10am here)..

Trickyg.8752:

ArenaNet is only bridging the gap between exotic and legendary tiers.

There currently isn’t a gap between the two, but there will be now..

Death by Chickens.6902:

This outrage is hilariously stupid.

I guarantee an ANet dev will post in the next few days and explain that NO, they said nothing about adding new equipment tiers every 6 months, and as the blog explained, they saw a need to bridge the gap between Exotic and Legendary by adding ONE new tier.

You people are going to give yourself aneurisms over nothing. Stop freaking out. Constructive feedback is great, but ya’ll are taking it too far.

except they also say it’s just a first level:

“This is just the beginning. In November, we’re only adding the first level of Infusions and Ascended Rings and Back slots, so that leaves us a lot of room to build upon these levels of Item progression in future content.”

No, I hate the new ascended items.

This is just Land of the Dead all over again (Warhammers first (and last) content update)..
An update that forced rvr (wvw) players to do pve dungeons to stay competitive in pvp..
:(

Don’t worry guys “Ascended” gear will be the last grind. After that we can finally enjoy the game..

..thinking for a minute..

But oh wait! Why not scrap this stupid idea all together and enjoy the game now?

Thrumdi.9216:

krookie.6378:

Laef.4519:

“We have always worked hard to create a sense of satisfying progression rather than gear grind and this new item progression initiative is no exception. By adding challenging new combat mechanics to end-game content and ways to mitigate those mechanics through gear progression for high-end players, we can add personal progression without making the game feel like an endless treadmill of gear that is just out of your reach.”

Can anyone explain this part of the post to me please? I’ve read it 5 times now and I can’t seem to understand what she is trying to say..

She’s basically saying that they are adding gear grind to combat gear grind.

It’s not gear grind when GW2 does it.

It’s “satisfying progression”.

It also seem to be only for their “for high-end players” and therefor “just out of your reach.”… lol

Leiloni.7951:

Laef.4519:

“We have always worked hard to create a sense of satisfying progression rather than gear grind and this new item progression initiative is no exception. By adding challenging new combat mechanics to end-game content and ways to mitigate those mechanics through gear progression for high-end players, we can add personal progression without making the game feel like an endless treadmill of gear that is just out of your reach.”

Can anyone explain this part of the post to me please? I’ve read it 5 times now and I can’t seem to understand what she is trying to say..

She’s trying to mask the gear grind in perfume.

That’s what I thought, thanks.

“We have always worked hard to create a sense of satisfying progression rather than gear grind and this new item progression initiative is no exception. By adding challenging new combat mechanics to end-game content and ways to mitigate those mechanics through gear progression for high-end players, we can add personal progression without making the game feel like an endless treadmill of gear that is just out of your reach.”

Can anyone explain this part of the post to me please? I’ve read it 5 times now and I can’t seem to understand what she is trying to say..

Sigh.. Not only will there be a gear treadmill but now dungeon crawlers will have a stat edge in wvwvw aswell.. I thought I had seen the end of that in vanilla wow but then came lotd in warhammer and now this in this game..
sigh..

Sigh.. Not only will there be a gear treadmill but now dungeon crawlers will have a stat edge in wvwvw aswell.. I thought I had seen the end of that in vanilla wow but then came lotd in warhammer and now this in this game..
sigh..Now I really wish I hadn’t spent so much cash on gems…

Erasculio.2914:

cubed.2853:

Well I read ANet integrated this new Tier because players where asking for more progression – when I see this huge thread with 32 pages in just 12 houres I guess you did listen to the wrong folks.

The conclusion is that the game most likely failed – that they were expecting more people to play the game, and upon finding out how many people were actually playing, they decided to give up on their original filosophy and just turn the game into one more WoW clone. Which, ironically, is only going to make the game fail even faster.

Which is a pity. If the game is really going to crash and burn, I wished it would do so as the true Guild Wars 2, not as World of Guild Wars.

We are going to know the truth anyway on the next NCSoft Quarterly Report.

Sadly this is the way I see it too.. if it’s true..

Drarnor Kunoram.5180:

Yeah, the Axe does more damage than the main-hand dagger. Significantly so, in fact. I’ve seen people spouting about how awesome it is that they get Life Siphon to hit for 9k damage. If I’m not hitting that with my axe 2, the target must have Protection or I’m under Weakness (it usually hits for 10-11k). That’s before I get Might/Fury. I also am running 0/30/20/20/0 on traits, so my Power isn’t that high and I don’t have the axe damage amplification trait.

I hate to break this to you but other than for the retaliation on axe 3, the axe is just awful for damage. Life siphon is not very good for damage it’s from the auto attack the dagger gets its damage, life siphon is very situational..
I suggest you do some testing comparing the kill time of the two.. or if you don’t wanna do that I suggest you read this: https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/necromancer/Axe-what-is-it-s-use/
or any other thread where people have done some testing..

Don’t get me wrong I like the axe and would love to swap my dagger for it but the damage is just way too low.

Drarnor Kunoram.5180:

The main-hand dagger just kinda loses to everything (need straight damage? Go axe.

Your kidding right? Axe for damage over dagger? or for damage at all for that matter.. lol.

Yup same here I like DS too. It would be nice if it would have 1-2 more abilities in it though, something with conditions.

Ditched my Sylvari necro and rolled a Norn instead.

tbh if you let the poison eat through both your health pools as you said, then it really sounds like a matter of l2p..

In every mmorpg I have ever played all my rl friends always leave me alone in the game after a couple of months when they stop playing. And tbh that’s always when I start having the most fun because I have to make new friends!
In this game however I haven’t played with any rl friends and I’ve had a blast all along

My sylvari necro:

My necromancer:

Well they did nerf it because the ramps are now longer, I even checked a video on youtube to confirm it.

@DarkWasp.7291
No it’s the one in south western Dredgehaunt Cliffs.

Should have completed it before patch.. Made it on first try after patch

So I was working on this jumping puzzle (the one in Tribulation Rift) right before today’s patch and I had fallen down about 10 times when the client restart popped up so I relaunched the game.
After the patching was done I logg back in and now the jumping is MUCH easier because the ramps are extended

This sucks because now I can’t possible find any joy in completing it knowing that just half an hour ago it was much harder..

Please don’t make this game any easier.

and at 20% 280MB, so not very accurate :P

at 10% im at 210MB

In pvp I currently use axe/torch and sword/dagger, I find it a lot of fun with all the dodges and conditions. In pve I use longbow/gs or longbow/sword&horn.
I dont like the look (too small) or the sounds (pew, pew, pew..) of the shortbow otherwise I maybe would have used that..

Ravnodaus.5130:

That is the advice you are finding, and there is a reason for that. It is good advice.

But people don’t like good advice, they want advice that agrees with them. You don’t want to hear that ranger has more problems than it’s worth, you don’t want to hear other professions have it better. But it doesn’t stop it from being true.

The honest answer to “what is a good build”? Is reroll warrior or thief, and then put points aimlessly into your traits, and you’ll have a good build.

You are just too much with your generalizations and assumtions..
Bye

@Ravnodaus.5130
“First off though, I want to say… If you enjoy playing Ranger, it shouldn’t matter to you how many problems I or anyone else has with the Ranger profession… because you enjoy the Ranger. If you like it, no amount of the current issues bother you, and are completely satisfied with how it plays, then “whine” or “complaint” posts shouldn’t have any effect on you whatsoever… same reason, because you enjoy the Ranger. And that is fine, and all is well.”

You can like a class and still be bothered by some of the issues you know..
And all the complaining does bother me, if it where limited to a few threads that would be fine but almost every single one of them is filled with whine and that ruins the purpose of the class forums. I come to these boards looking for advice, different builds and what not but all I read is that the ranger is broken and that I shouldn’t bother playing it and roll X class instead.

@Fate.8673

I agree 100%.
Thanks for this thread, so sick of all the doom and reroll threads..!

@Vorkk
Why would I say that?
I didn’t set out to prove anything with that screenshot, Chilly said he just experienced “the defeat of the century” so i just wanted to post something positive to cheer up him and the rest of the sad rangers a little bit.

@ChillyChinaman
Yup i know, hehe, but it was a fun game nonetheless. Just wanted to post something positive on the ranger boards, way to much negativity here!
I’ve yet to experience a game where we have been spawn-camped and I hope i never will =)

6 rangers and 1 thief vs 8 “good classes”.
And yes thats after the patch!

My norn ranger, the norn t2 armor is probably the coolest armor I’ve ever seen in an MMO! =)

Same here, can’t delete characters and all my slots are filled so can’t roll a new one.

“I feel like “kit swapping” is a build, more than anything else. Some people like it, some don’t. It should be an option and neither side should be penalized for picking how they want to play.”

Don’t you think that having to invest points in to a certain trait line is penalizing people who actually like it the way it is now?