Guild Wars 2

smiley.1438:

/dontcare?

hint http://phpjs.org/functions/array_multisort/ hint

I am struggling to take the high road with that reply, but here goes. The behavior was strange enough to make me curious. I thought that this was a good place to ask whether someone knew what might be going on behind the scenes to cause it.

Yes, there are ways to work around the seemingly random order that the API delivers the output in, ways that are obvious enough to not need hints. What wasn’t obvious is why the API might output in that order at all.

If anyone knows how the commerce API orders the data it returns, could they share?

Example, test link

I gave it five id’s not in numerical order. Specifically, they were ordered “1, 4, 5, 2, 3”

When I inspect the JSON returned, it gives me the values in “1, 2, 4, 5, 3” order. Still not sorted by ID, not in the order I gave them, and I can’t really find anything else that it might’ve sorted it by to achieve the order it gave them back in.

Ideas?

Gewd.8125:

Thanks.

Would it be possible to get a URL that only has the buy/sell price/volume so we won’t cause massive traffic to the server if we don’t need the exact order book?

Could already exist, we won’t know the full list of valid params until they tell us in the documentation (or if someone is really good at guessing).

Looks like the detailed listings update every 60 seconds, more or less.

It probably would have been a better system if it worked more like real auctions, where the increment depends on the magnitude of the price. Perhaps restricting you from setting a new low price unless it is at least 0.5% below the existing one would’ve worked out well. Not much anyone can do about it these days, however. Glad your item sold.

SkyChef.5432:

cinemapaula.8673:

We lot a longtime Guildie and GW1 friend due to this bug. Its been going on FAR too long.

Agree. If the bug didn’t affect a lot of people lately, it would still be there. FAR too long to fix a bug that when they acknowledged, they fixed it fast. And it’s the server’s issue.

I’d say that’s probably half true. Things definitely seemed to proceed more quickly as others joined in with filing tickets, but the first time I got a clear indication that developers were on the scene and trying things to remedy it was in September.

Yep, fixed here also. Hooray, can’t wait for this thread to CLOSE AND DIE!

Talindra.4958:

it happened to me too, i am so buggy that i can not send whisper a lot of time and not sure if my whisper is sent out and people telling me that they are seeing me offline but i am infact online or when i am offline they said i am online but not responding to whispers.

also anyone having problem with party invite? a lot of time i can not invite people into party.. had to restart client a few times for it to work. also can not whisper people (alies) in wvwvw directly. also used to be able to invite invaders into party but no longer works for me.

hope this patch fixes the issue

Honestly, your issues sound so different than mine and the others here that it is likely not the exact same issue. Hopefully, though, whatever fix they have up their sleeve helps you out equally

Additionally, it appears that they will be performing a 2hr server maintenance in 5 hours. Perhaps related?

For those who have been active recently in the thread, I can sympathize with how annoying the issue is at first, and so I also understand why there is a general lack of patience when it comes to the resolution.

With that said, if by some misfortune the fix doesn’t end up working for us, please try to adhere to their request for a 24hr reprieve before we all tell them so. This is the home stretch, most likely, and in the realm of giant dataservers things can take time to propagate through. If you don’t have chat fixed 3 hrs after the maintenance is through [approx 10 hrs from now, not 24], don’t necessarily assume it’s the end. Just be patient and wait the full 24 hr, and then take action.

Thanks!

Evalana.5480:

Yea someone got that same message like 2 weeks ago…. did that person ever get a follow up? This really sucks. I still haven’t had any acknowledgment of my ticket.

No, I haven’t received a follow-up yet. But it was only 5 days ago. My recommendation would be patience, since we have no real control over the matter at this point. They’ve acknowledged that they know about and it and are working on a solution, so that’s the best situation we can be in.

Got this reply at 3:00 pm PDT:

Hello,

I just wanted to just briefly touch base with you regarding your chat issues. The inability to see chat appears to be related to a larger issue which we are working to correct. I apologize for our lack of response to your ticket, rest assured we have been and are continuing to investigate this issue.

In addition to this, we have been making significant changes to our support system. Because of these changes, we are moving all tickets over to a new ticketing system. This new system should allow us to keep better track of issues like yours. For your records, and for our own, I have included a full summary of the correspondence regarding your chat issues so that we can track this issue in the new system.

We will keep you posted directly if and when there are any significant updates to the situation. Please let us know if you have any questions in the meantime.

Hi all,

While I’m sad that so many others are having the same issue, it does make me feel a little bit happier to know that it wasn’t an isolated incident. I’ve been on vacation for a couple weeks and haven’t been able to keep appraised of the status. There is still no resolution for me, though I have gotten a few more emails from support asking me whether it is fixed.

The last one said that they had performed server maintenance with the latest [halloween] LS update, and asked whether it had fixed things [it hadn’t]. Theirs was sent a few weeks back but I wasn’t able to reply until a couple days ago, so I haven’t seen any more on the issue since.

As for the latest discussion in this thread about where the problem source is, I can tell you that the developers have logged into my account from their end to replicate the issue, doing so successfully, so it is definitely not a client or PC issue and, rather, an account issue as has been surmised already by a few here.

All told, I have been living with this issue for probably 3-4 months with no fix. I am not sure if this is because it hasn’t had exposure, or if it’s just that hard for them to diagnose and fix. Ideally, the growing number of you that are reporting the same issue in this thread will improve the resolution time for us all, so please don’t hesitate to chime in if it’s happening to you!

edit: For those of you who have an active support ticket about this, could you please add to your dialog a reference to this thread, so that they can keep track of the similarities and extent of those affected?

While you are probably not going to get an official reply to this question, it still sounded like you were asking for others’ opinions so I’ll offer up my own.

I’ll first start with the assumption that the other grey area of unofficial TP API usage, pulling data [no in-game session ID required], is OK to use. What type of benefit does this use afford? It gives the user information, allowing for better decision making in terms of what to possibly flip, or craft, for profit. It enables this by giving you the information quickly, and in a digital format easily manipulated and worked with.

Without any other tools, if you wanted to act on that information then you would need to go in-game and “go through the motions” of searching for items, doing some clicks, typing in some numbers, and placing the orders. If you wanted more than 250, you would have to repeatedly type in the same numbers and place multiple orders.

That type of “pull info” usage and “more information to make a profit, if you act on it” benefit sounds similar to the official events API. It would be very time consuming to know the state of every event in the game on all servers, but by using the official API you can quickly pull that information and process it usefully and for a financial gain – but only if you go in-game, travel to the area of the event, and participate in its success. See the parallel?

If we now venture into the area of your question, it feels a lot different to me and doesn’t really pass the squint test. You are still automating the information PULL, but you are now also automating the actionable half of the process as well by having a program placing the orders. The advantage grows from a vetted-by-official-example one of having more information at your disposal, to a blacker area of being quicker at in-game actions.

Conclusion and tl/dr: I wouldn’t personally be doing it, because it feels bannable to me if ANet decided one day to act on it.

And full disclosure: I have my own tool similar to DarkSpirit’s, which just collects and operates on the price/qty data to let me know what to focus on. The only thing I have it do to save time is copy item names to clipboard so that i can paste in-game rather than type.

Betonboor.7154:

Since a few days I am suffering from the exact same issue. It is extremely frustrating as a guild leader, especially since we have a guild mission night coming up which will be impossible for me to lead…

So far I have tried the following:

• Checked the chat-tab settings to make sure /party and /guild were enabled
• Logged out and back in to different characters
• Set status to offline/online
• Rebooted my computer
• Guested on a different server
• Ran guild wars 2 with -repair
• Reinstalled the game from scratch
• Turned off all downloads
• Completely disabled my firewall
• Ran the connection through a VPN to rule out weird ISP issues

Nothing helps. I finally submitted a support ticket, supplying GameAdvisor logs and received the following reply:

Thank you for contacting our team about a game issue that you experienced.

The Guild Wars 2 Development Team is aware of this issue and team members currently are working on addressing it. Please keep an eye on the official forums for any future updates and announcements regarding Guild Wars 2.

GW2 is an amazing game, but this bug is absolutely game breaking for a social player like myself and honestly quite unacceptable. I am hoping this problem gets fixed soon and if anyone finds a solution, please do share!

Well, that’s about the best reply they could give IMO. I have gone about two months now with this issue and only about a week ago has progress finally been made – they logged into my account to replicate the behavior locally, and said they had some ideas and to let them know if the issue was still there after 48hr.

Obviously, it was still there or we both wouldn’t be here right now, and I let them know as much. But I am at least happy that it has some of their focus because, as you said, it is one of the more game-breaking things to have happen. Who knows how many whispers I have missed from people, or guild events announced through guild chat?

DoctorToxn.4925:

I am also having this EXACT same issue. It has made me not want to play the game very much lately… Also, after you deleted your settings file, did the client retain your exact same chat tab settings? It seems to have retained mine even after deleting the Local.dat file. Please, can we get a fix for this?

Just to give an update, my ticket has been idle for a couple weeks now. I contacted Gaile Gray to see if maybe she could help me/us with getting some attention.

Last activity, they had asked if they could be allowed to log into my account to experience the issue locally. I gave them permission, but it hasn’t happened yet as far as I can tell.

For your question about settings maintained, I will delete mine again today after work and report back for you.

Tech support threw their hands up and forwarded my ticket onto in-game support [not sure of the exact demarcation of areas of expertise between the two]. The saga continues…

Tried the LFG / invisible shenanigans you suggested but it didn’t do anything productive.

I am finally getting a good dialogue with tech support, and they have a couple diagnostics reports of mine to work with now. They thought it might be a routing issue and had me plug directly into the modem WAN port, which I did, but no positive result came of it.

I would find it a bit hilarious if at the end of all this, it was something broken on my provider’s side of things…will keep you posted.

StinVec.3621:

Apparently others have had this same issue. I’m not sure on whether support managed to fix it for them as their threads were not updated.
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/support/account/Cannot-chat

WOW COOL. I wasn’t able to find that, for some reason, but it sounds like we had/have the same problem. I’ll send the OP a PM and check on his status and possible resolution. Thanks a bunch.

StinVec.3621:

This may be related to this Guild issue from a while ago coupled with the currently bugged offline/online settings that many are experiencing. You may be set to online, but hovering on your name in the chat box shows you as offline.

Happened to a friend, while we were partied together.
/say worked both ways. I’m guessing, but so did /map.
What he said in /party didn’t go through (and /guild) nor could he see it.
Whispers said he was offline, but he could whisper me.
He still showed in party to me, although I didn’t see him in the guild list.
Logging in/out fixed it, but then it happened to me a minute later.

This one has enough differences that I don’t think it is related. People can see the messages I send, and they can whisper me back successfully. I just can’t see any of the things they send or reply with. And to your offline online question, I asked someone and they say that I appear ‘Online’ when my name is hovered over in Friends and Guild lists.

StinVec.3621:

On this guild chat bug thread, one way to fix the guild chat is to leave the guild and rejoin it. This process seems to fix that issue so it is possible that it will fix yours if it is the one you are encountering.

I’ll give this a shot next time I see an officer online.

StinVec.3621:

Are you an EU player playing on an NA server? If so, then this may be tied to the ongoing issue of EU players on NA servers displaying as offline even though they are set to online, which bugs guild chats, party chats and whispers as well as even getting into parties or dungeons, etc. Though the same issues are also present for same area players; EU on EU, NA on NA.

I am NA on NA server [SBI] I can join parties, but I haven’t tried to join a dungeon in a while since it’s hard to describe to people that I won’t be able to talk to them in Party Chat lol….

StinVec.3621:

Well, it seems this may also be related to the whole “trial account” issues that have been experienced by some for several months since the original “mass trial account” issue Anet had. Did you also experience a recent “trial account” notice or warning issue with your account when you weren’t a trial account?
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/support/bugs/Party-and-Guild/2073091

I do not recall ever seeing this message, and their problems sound way buggier than mine surprisingly!

So in all, it looks like your technique of throwing a handful of darts might’ve hit a bullseye with that thread you linked to. Like I said, I will follow up with that thread maker and hope for the best. Thanks again for your time and brainstorming.

Wow tons of stuff here, thanks for taking your time to try and help. I will do my best to keep the replies organized below.

StinVec.3621:

This may not be related, but what corner of your screen do you have your chat box positioned in? Have you tried moving it to a different corner to see if that ‘resets’ the chat box and its settings or something?

My chat box is in the lower-left [I think default?] position. I moved it to top-left but the problem remained.

StinVec.3621:

Or does resizing the chatbox or increasing/decreasing the font size the chat text appears in via the chat box options help?

Do you also have the option to display channel tags enabled? Also, timestamps?

I was on what I think are default settings – Medium font, no timestamp or tag or profanity filter. Changed each of those individually but none helped.

StinVec.3621:

Just trying to see what might be causing some chat elements to not display, while allowing others to display normally.

Just to repeat, the map + local + emote channels are all visible and I can even send messages, myself, to those.

For Guild and Party, I do not see any messages – including my own. They are being sent though, since others tell me they receive them.

For whisper, I can see the message that I’ve sent to someone but I cannot see any reply they might’ve sent.

StinVec.3621:

Also, it is a very long shot and probably won’t be fruitful to solving the issue, but do you happen to be running your game in fullscreen mode? (not windowed fullscreen)

I play in windowed mode [not windowed fullscreen, just a shrunk window]. When I change to fullscreen, there is no change in behavior.

StinVec.3621:

Also, is this only an issue while in WvW areas or while in Open World PvE areas? I’ve seen players having chat issues while in WvW before, but it was mainly all chats not appearing after being there for a long period of time, not specific chats not appearing in the chat box from the get-go.

This happens in all types of gameplay [except sPVP, I’ve never done that so I can’t say either way]. WvW, Fractals, Dungeons, Overflows, Guesting, whatever others I am forgetting about.

[CHAR LIMIT EXCEEDED NOOOOoooo]

I deleted those files you are referencing prior to my reinstall, as I wanted a clean slate.

And yes, I have checked my chat panel settings. I leave everything enabled [checkmarked] but emotes, and have verified that that is still their state. I have also fiddled with enabling & disabling, and combining that with reopening the client just to see if something was out of parity. Didn’t help.

Just gave it a shot but had no impact. I tried toggling between offline and online, nothing changed. I tried toggling offline, closing and reopening the client, nothing changed. Good idea though, thanks for the suggestion.

It was a good idea but I checked and yes, it is green – ‘Online’

edit: I originally posted this in the Bugs subforum but a moderator moved it to here, I guess thinking that it was something on my end that was causing the problem.

Now that I have entirely reinstalled the game and the problem is persisting, would it be more appropriate to have it back in the Bugs area?

Uninstalled and reinstalled the whole game, and nothing has changed

Given that, and the fact that it hasn’t always been this way, I guess it is safe to conclude that it is somehow occurring on the ANet side of things??

Thanks for the reply. I haven’t changed the user privilege level that I run the game at since install ~1 yr back, and this is relatively new behavior. I will still try to ‘run as administrator’ next time and report back, because I am open to try anything that isn’t destructive.

As for the ticket, I opened one simultaneously with this thread but it isn’t going anywhere fast…the first reply suggested that I had the channels muted [I said I didn’t in the ticket body] and described how to enable them, and the second reply asked for a screenshot showing the issue. Not sure how I can showcase that someone sent a message in Guild Chat and I didn’t receive it.

This started happening maybe ~1 month ago, not sure exactly.

All of my chat filters are checked except for Emotes, however I cannot see any Guild, Party, or Whisper messages. This happens both on my native server and guesting to other servers. It happens in every party I make or join, and in any guild I am a member of and representing.

I can successfully send messages in all of those channels, because people tell me they see what I am sending, but I do not receive anything except Local and Map.

Additionally, I cannot see feedback that I have sent any message at all for Guild and Party. I can, however, see that I have sent something as a whisper.

Any ideas? I would rather wait on the “reinstall game and see if it fixed it” until I have made sure no other option exists to try.

Thanks

Cliff Spradlin.3512:

If any player in the world participates in an event, then it is considered discovered.
If any player in the world acquires an item, then it is considered discovered.

How quickly an item or event is discovered depends on how well-hidden it is in the world. It’s possible that an event or item might never be discovered.

Does that, combined with the fact that I only get 16 world status results for the Grenth Temple defense event, imply that 35 of the 51 have never successfully finished the Grenth chain??

edit: per post above me, I guess it could simply mean that 35 have never had people stick around to bother defending it.

DarkSpirit.7046:

Leighwyn McClendon.9346:

See my post here

I already found the relevant defense events, but not all servers are present in the results…

Just a wild guess on my part but perhaps the reason why you are getting different array sizes is because of what is explained here?

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/community/api/names-json-static/first#post2064502

Some events may not have been “discovered” by players yet on certain servers?

Or put a more depressing way, 35 servers have never succeeded on Grenth?

See my post here

I already found the relevant defense events, but not all servers are present in the results…

I was excited to use the new API feature as a way to know the status of the 5 Temples/Cathedrals in Orr. I found what I thought were the corresponding “Defense” events for each, but am getting some funny results.

Specifically, each of the 5 events is returning a different size array [meaning that there are worlds missing from some or all].

There look to be 51 worlds (from here).
For Dwayna I see 50 results.
For Lyssa there are 48.
For Melandru there are 47.
For Grenth I get only 16?
Lastly, Balthazar gives 38.

Was curious if anyone had ideas why?

Thanks.