Guild Wars 2

Zenith.7301:

Rising Dusk.2408:

Get the mastery or don’t do the raid boss that requires it; there are other raid wings and bosses in the third wing which don’t require the mastery for you to play if you don’t want to get the mastery. It’s really that simple.

If you’re opposed to the concept of masteries being required for raids, my opinion is that I disagree with you because raids are end-game PvE content and masteries are like leveling up skills for use in PvE. It makes perfect sense to me to incorporate masteries into raids, like the Speed/Adrenal Mushrooms in Spirit Vale, the Updraft on Gorseval, and now Ley Line Gliding in wing 3. I personally wish they’d validate even more masteries by using them in raids either optionally or otherwise.

I agree with the use of masteries like gliding and mushrooms. I would not agree with requiring multiple end tier masteries or all of them.

It would drastically gate accessibility and ease of entry into the raiding scene if you required anything beyond mushrooms and maxed gliding.

I don’t want people who I invite to come raid with me in this game to be told " You’re gonna grind braindead dynamic events and waste days on ridiculous gold adventure medals or camping NPC’s for specific dynamic event steps to get enough mastery and xp to be raid ready".

WoW doesn’t do this. You can virtually gear up for entry to raids in WoW or FFXIV or Wildstar in a week or two of 2-3 hour play sessions.

Guild Wars 2 should be no different.

Raids should be easy to access and difficult to complete by virtue of their combat mechanics, not silly unnecessary gating.

To anyone who played GW1, you know how stupid Lightbringer ranks were for DoA. EoTN was equally cancerous.

But raids are super easy to access. You get into raid 2 without ever even doing raid 1. Most games require you to finish the first raid part before you even can get into raid 2. I personally think that’s how it shoulda been done but anet was nice and said nope you can walk straight into part 2 without ever needing to do part 1. I’m glad they are making you get ley line for this part. They should of made everyone in the party have to use it but instead we being VERY generous with only saying half the raid will need it. They are going above and beyond to making raids accessible for people just walking into the raid like a stroll in the park. Haha

I bet this person got screwed over and joined a squad doing it and their map failed and the other map that succeeded was full or they crashed and missed everything so now they are bitter. Hahaha. Gotta love bitter Betty’s always worried about everyone else but themselves.

Cactus Brawler.7415:

Many people who have complained have offered constructive criticism and possible solutions. I have done so myself and have read many other posts doing the same.

Good. That’s my point. Those should be read. It’s the non stop complaining with no solution that should be ignored and deleted

fireflyry.7023:

Customers have the right to complain. You make this game worse OP. Your enjoying mechanics based on previous QQ but your to stupid to realize it.

Complaining without a solution. Yes that’s the type of customer to listen to. Companies should ignore people who give no insight and solutions to a problem. People like you are the real problem.

Zalavaaris.5329:

Levi M.7428:

Test.8734:

Levi M.7428:

Let’s just all get everything at launch right away. So then the masses can complain again for 3 years of no content! Hurrah!

Too bad we have some gullible players who can’t tell the difference between “content” and “mindless, easy repetitive gating in order to unlock content”.

If anything, the current gating for specializations is a smoke screen to how little real content HoT has.

Yep this expansion has no content at all. I totally agree man. Smokescreens and mirrors. I agree. You should find a new game to play cause clearly this isn’t the game for you.

Oh noooooo this game might not be for him or for me? Ya know, for a game with no mounts I’m curious how you got a horse and I’m also curious how it got to be so high.

I fly duh

Regionalitch.6890:

Levi M, thank you for your contribution. I said, “As a WVW/sPVP player there is no way… to get enough hero points to unlock the elite specialization without playing the content that is being ramrodded our way”.

In simpler terms, give WVW/sPVP players an alternative way to unlock the elite specialization that isn’t PVE focused.

Correct. I couldn’t agree more. It’s definitely a shame WvW players can’t get the spec when they jump into WvW. They should have the same rules as pvp. And I’m not even a WvW player and I think that.

DutchGaming.7105:

Levi M.7428:

Thatkitten Rat.1236:

Levi M.7428:

OMG something you can’t get in one day of playing. OMG. It’s the end of the world. Why don’t they just hand you everything. Cause that’s all I see when I read this post

Then I suggest you work on your reading and comprehension. There is not point in these elite specialistions if by the time they’re unlocked you’ve exhausted all of the expansion content. This is the point of endgame content, to give you something to do with the abilities you earned getting to max level.

We have a bitter Betty over here. Who wants everything handed to them. Cause that’s all I read from this. Let’s just all get everything at launch right away. So then the masses can complain again for 3 years of no content! Hurrah!

Dude every kitten thread or post you reply to you reply to in the same toxic manner, No one here said that they want everything handed on a silver platter. Sure I want to work for my specs. But only if its reasonable. and I do not consider Hero challanges locked behind masteries, Champion monsters with time limits reasonable.

So what’s your solution dude? All I see are complaints. But no solutions ? Please give one

Test.8734:

Levi M.7428:

Let’s just all get everything at launch right away. So then the masses can complain again for 3 years of no content! Hurrah!

Too bad we have some gullible players who can’t tell the difference between “content” and “mindless, easy repetitive gating in order to unlock content”.

If anything, the current gating for specializations is a smoke screen to how little real content HoT has.

Yep this expansion has no content at all. I totally agree man. Smokescreens and mirrors. I agree. You should find a new game to play cause clearly this isn’t the game for you.

Mahou.3924:

Levi M.7428:

Don’t let the people who want to whole game given to them at launch hate on you. HoT is awesome and has loads of content and something to work towards whatever that maybe. Some people just want to complain they have to do something for once. Then they want to complain there’s no content for the game.

learn to read and think, pleb.

Learn to respond with something rather than just a blank comment. Learn what a forum is.

Regionalitch.6890:

Nope, it isn’t about wanting to “get everything at launch”. It’s about being FORCED to play in areas of the game that you have zero interest in playing FOR HOURS. As a WVW/sPVP player there is no way, that i’m aware of, to get enough hero points to unlock the elite specialization without playing the content that is being ramrodded our way.

If the jungle content was indeed so amazingly fun then they shouldn’t have to force you to play it should they?

So, “just enjoy it”… enjoy WHAT exactly?

Once again someone is complaining without a solution. What’s your solution?

Hyper Cutter.9376:

Levi M.7428:

Don’t let the people who want to whole game given to them at launch hate on you. HoT is awesome and has loads of content and something to work towards whatever that maybe. Some people just want to complain they have to do something for once. Then they want to complain there’s no content for the game.

People don’t “want everything given to them” (every single white knight says this, did someone give you all a script?), they want to play the new content with their elite specs. This isn’t a difficult concept to understand.

So you want the elite spec given to you at launch? Correct ? I want to make sure I understand this. You don’t want to work towards it. You just want it given to you?

Spurnshadow.3678:

I have to agree with this. So far, it is the only negative criticism I have with HoT. The new maps are gorgeous, and I’ve only just gotten to the 3rd. There are a ton of different events. Lots of new monsters with different fight mechanics and great looks. I like that there is a new progression system with masteries. Just so many great things to say.

But I was really holding off on buying this for a long time for fear that WvW will be ruined. The biggest selling point for me were the elite specs. It would breath a lot of fresh life into The classes I play.

However, I paid for these elite specs. I’ve spent maybe 20 hours so far on this and I’m not even half way through. Part of the issue is that one needs quite a bit of their masteries unlocked in order to access many of the hero points. This is fine and all for replayability of the map and progression in general, but really a drag just to play what I signed up for. Part of the issue is that hero points will not be a currency anymore if you max out your spec, so I understand that you’re trying to get the most bang out of all the hero points, but this was really poorly designed.

I can’t imagine going through all this again on a new character. The only saving grace is that I’ll have my masteries unlocked, so I’ll be able to get them quicker, but I won’t be having nearly as much fun in WvW, or anywhere else for that matter because right now, it’s just a grind to get the kitten mastery unlocked.

Anyway, again, loving everything else about HoT.

So your saying you want all the masteries mastered by the end of the expansion and the maps to be account wide so when you get done with the expansion you have nothing to do but say there’s no more content? I’m so confused as to what people want with a game. To beat it in a week??

metal chill.8490:

now do it 8 more times and youll see what all the fuss is about.

So instead of complaining. Please propose how they eliminate repeat content for Alts. So each profession should have 8 different maps to explore? I’m just confused as to complaining without a solution ?

Don’t let the people who want to whole game given to them at launch hate on you. HoT is awesome and has loads of content and something to work towards whatever that maybe. Some people just want to complain they have to do something for once. Then they want to complain there’s no content for the game.

Khristophoros.7194:

Levi M.7428:

Khristophoros.7194:

Levi M.7428:

Bryzy.2719:

Levi M.7428:

So you want to be handed everything correct? That’s what ur asking for? Cause that’s what it sounds like.

Nice strawman fallacy.

He never said he wanted everything handed to him, he said the amount of work required to get the Espec is ridiculous, which it is. Most people knew that they had to earn the specs, but the sheer amount of hours this will take was NOT advertised.

The fact that legendaries will take a long time to create WAS advertised.

If the Espec had required a total of, say, 200 HPs to unlock, that would still require an amount of work and mastery gain but it would be much more fair than what is currently required.

Your right. Let’s just get everything at launch right away. It’s only fair cause that’s what we “paid” for. Yeah I change my mind. I to want to throw a fit because the game is making me work towards something rather than mindlessly running around the silverwastes all day. You changed my opinion completely. Thanks man! :/

Since when were the elite specs = “everything”?

How would u fix this then? Cause the op only says what’s wrong. But nothing about fixing or maybe a suggestion towards helping. All I see are complaints. Personally I got my elite spec right when I logged in because it was only 60 points to unlock and what’s even better. There’s a skill I want and guess what. I have to work towards it instead of getting it right off the bat.

Here is how to fix it.

Reduce the hero point costs of the elite specs by 90%. 6 points to unlock, 2-3 points for each skill/trait.

You can work hard for legendary and ascended equipment. You can work hard for fractal personal reward level. You can work hard for masteries.

There is plenty of stuff to keep you busy.

Perfect ! A good post since it details some way of fixing something. Altough I agree 400 does seem a lot. But I enjoy how I’m not getting the whole spec at launch. I think 60 to unlock the basic elite is good. Maybe lower the amount needed for everything after. 15 HP for a trap on my guard seems like a lot.

I just think constructive conversations with how to fix things rather than I hate how anet is doing something.

Loboling.5293:

I also want to play with my elite spec. However, the farther I progress, the more fun I’m having. I’ve unlocked gliding and bouncing mushrooms, and I’m working towards tolerance to poison vines, which will let me get some hero points that seemed impossible when I started. I have not repeated anything or “grinded”. Instead, I am simply exploring the new zones and when I discover something (mastery) I try and go back to get some of the things I couldn’t when I passed the first time.

Since, I haven’t made it to the end yet (I still have a long way to go, as I’m only about 20% done with my spec). So maybe playing the expac will get boring, but I find the new zones fun.

Also, I’m pretty sure mastery is account wide, so we really only have to “grind” once. In two months time, exploring this zone for hero points on any other character will be no harder than other zones. (endgame) This is our endgame progression. Enjoy it. Don’t assume it’s not fun, because of other assumptions. (Elite were easy to get) When I get my elite spec unlocked in a week or two, I will probably be really happy. I’m also playing one of the most affected elite specs (daredevil), which doesn’t get it’s profession mechanikittenil the end of the trait line.

I hope players give it a shot, and play a profession they enjoy in the jungle for the mastery grind. You can come back on another character later with all mastery already unlocked and easily get your less fun characters their elite specs to try them out. I know some people (like myself on chrono) want to try the elite specs and didn’t really enjoy the base class as much. I gave up almost right away on my mesmer. Doing the new zone on my thief is much more fun for me. So bring your favorite class and explore the new zones, you’ll progress in time. Also, at the rate I’m unlocking masteries, I can’t believe I’ll have to finish the new zones to get my hero points. (As I’ll probably start playing my elite spec when I’m still missing some of the upper tier stuff… A daredevil who can’t dodge in any special way, but then it will feel great to unlock my special dodges)

Good luck all, and for those who really hate PvE, A-Net will probably adjust the requirements soonish. The complaints are volumous, but I’m glad I’m getting to experience “hard mode” before its simplified.

You are an awesome player! And this post should be read by everyone!

Khristophoros.7194:

Levi M.7428:

Bryzy.2719:

Levi M.7428:

So you want to be handed everything correct? That’s what ur asking for? Cause that’s what it sounds like.

Nice strawman fallacy.

He never said he wanted everything handed to him, he said the amount of work required to get the Espec is ridiculous, which it is. Most people knew that they had to earn the specs, but the sheer amount of hours this will take was NOT advertised.

The fact that legendaries will take a long time to create WAS advertised.

If the Espec had required a total of, say, 200 HPs to unlock, that would still require an amount of work and mastery gain but it would be much more fair than what is currently required.

Your right. Let’s just get everything at launch right away. It’s only fair cause that’s what we “paid” for. Yeah I change my mind. I to want to throw a fit because the game is making me work towards something rather than mindlessly running around the silverwastes all day. You changed my opinion completely. Thanks man! :/

Since when were the elite specs = “everything”?

How would u fix this then? Cause the op only says what’s wrong. But nothing about fixing or maybe a suggestion towards helping. All I see are complaints. Personally I got my elite spec right when I logged in because it was only 60 points to unlock and what’s even better. There’s a skill I want and guess what. I have to work towards it instead of getting it right off the bat.

Kristine Heath.1483:

Levi M.7428:

All I see on these forums is people complaining they can’t complete the whole expansion in a day…. I love the fact that I am going to have something to work towards in this game and that it’s not just going to be handed to me #silverspoon #nothappythenleave

hashtags? lol really? you are ignoring what people are saying completely.

Ok so what are people saying? Please clarify. Cause I’ll state again. All I see are people saying they can’t “have” everything at launch. But your right. I think we should have every map uncovered and every skill unlocked and every way point at launch. Totally agree. Let’s just get everything at launch right away!

Bryzy.2719:

Levi M.7428:

So you want to be handed everything correct? That’s what ur asking for? Cause that’s what it sounds like.

Nice strawman fallacy.

He never said he wanted everything handed to him, he said the amount of work required to get the Espec is ridiculous, which it is. Most people knew that they had to earn the specs, but the sheer amount of hours this will take was NOT advertised.

The fact that legendaries will take a long time to create WAS advertised.

If the Espec had required a total of, say, 200 HPs to unlock, that would still require an amount of work and mastery gain but it would be much more fair than what is currently required.

Your right. Let’s just get everything at launch right away. It’s only fair cause that’s what we “paid” for. Yeah I change my mind. I to want to throw a fit because the game is making me work towards something rather than mindlessly running around the silverwastes all day. You changed my opinion completely. Thanks man! :/

Thatkitten Rat.1236:

Levi M.7428:

OMG something you can’t get in one day of playing. OMG. It’s the end of the world. Why don’t they just hand you everything. Cause that’s all I see when I read this post

Then I suggest you work on your reading and comprehension. There is not point in these elite specialistions if by the time they’re unlocked you’ve exhausted all of the expansion content. This is the point of endgame content, to give you something to do with the abilities you earned getting to max level.

We have a bitter Betty over here. Who wants everything handed to them. Cause that’s all I read from this. Let’s just all get everything at launch right away. So then the masses can complain again for 3 years of no content! Hurrah!

So you want to be handed everything correct? That’s what ur asking for? Cause that’s what it sounds like.

OMG something you can’t get in one day of playing. OMG. It’s the end of the world. Why don’t they just hand you everything. Cause that’s all I see when I read this post

All I see on these forums is people complaining they can’t complete the whole expansion in a day…. I love the fact that I am going to have something to work towards in this game and that it’s not just going to be handed to me #silverspoon #nothappythenleave