Guild Wars 2

Seams it was n’t made to last long…. ;(
At night and in the morning (cant speak when I dont play), riverside cant do anything else except blobing. Funniest part is that it does not improve their income.

Seuche.4809:

Silverthorn.8576:

Woot another week of full german map blob trololololol!
Fighting 2 servers of cowards who always back in their tower when they are not 60 vs 25 succeed to make this match up more boring than the 3 weeks of SFR/Piken/VZ.

You mean Garrison – your Garrison ?

Is that screen supposed to show the world your highest skill with paint ?

Well, more seriously, I guess you meant there was a double attack on NE and NW gate of your garrison from both opponents. Such opportunistic situation is so usual… when one side spot a 25-men cross on the map. If the positions are well balanced, every side as no other opportunity whether to take initiative (risky) or join a fight already started.

We are not talking about some synchronized attack on three or four map from two sides against the third.

This said, it was clear and obvious that some of your commanders played a non-aggression pact last match-up. This was pretty obvious on EB where both of you were attacking/overwhelming Vizu positions and left the map nearly empty to blob on borderland as every green spot was wiped out there leaving both of your tiers untouched. Not to say the the two Germans servers might have had an agreement, as it was stated on one of your forums. Don’t know more about that.

But seeing what happened on the field, I found this matchup starting, where every side is fighting the two other almost equally, very much more challenging and exiting as scores has been so tight until now.

Just got it !

I used to believe Riverside was the other name for Elona reach…
While it was actually the contrary according to the score.

Hope you got good times during this matchup, it’s pretty tough for us, you really know how to gather your forces well during the holidays.
Especially at night, when your manpower is hardly to outrun, quite incredible.

Valheru Baal.9456:

So when you said “You lose the league but definitely you deserve to win this matchup with such strategies.” the first YOU covered SFR and the second only the hackers? Or both YOU targeted hackers? Sry, mate but for every rational person your sentence translates to generalising SFR after having a bad experience and it has nothing to do with how I read your comment.

Not at all. You are the one here generalizing to me the fact that SOME people generalizing the behavior of SOME other people to the whole server. Such a though (generalizing one’s stupid behavior to the whole) is so pointless, so stupid, so immature that your statement sounds like an insult to me. So, once and for all, my ‘you’ stand for the only person concerned by the the act of cheating. Since I’m the one speaking those word, I’m best to say what I mean. Though I understand, in the whole climate of suspicion (and cheating topic is bringing some more), you may have interpreted my word in the way of trolling, so fashion here and I’m not blaming you for that.

Valheru Baal.9456:

What I think happened is that when you wrote this, a little bit of rage bubbled up inside of you that led to generalisation even though you would normally refrain from doing so.

Of course there was a bit of rage, and still is. But my rage is not misled and was aimed at one specific person, as said above.

Valheru Baal.9456:

I only reply because you could have just said sorry for your poor choice of words, but instead you have decided to blame me for misinterpreting what you had said. This time I have decided to read your comment this way so no problem mate, we are cool.

Yes, we are cool, I hope this is what it looks like !
But I’m not going to apologize for my “poor choice of words”, even if it might be true. Because I’m not sure blaming a non native for its level of language could be the best of argument while he is the one who actually works hard to make its point
Yet, I would always answer to some ‘clarification queries’.
hf

DaveVN.5987:

@Lizerunn – we know Viz is not playing with full power, SFR is not even trying to play for PPT,we don’t even want to win this match up..
It’s just that PS n Viz are slacking, SFR still running on our normal training/ practicing schedule like we had under the league.
We don’t want to chase our enemies so our best option is to attack an upgrading keep and make you come out to fight

Of course, I can’t see any problem in that and I’m sorry we dont provide the good fight for this matchup.
Just that some of our players don’t really understand why the situation is running like this.
And for those who are regulars dedicated WvW players and didn’t planed to retire for the week, it’s really hard to find out they have migrated without warning on Vabbi and still fighting SFR and Piken

ilmau.9781:

ouch! ok i start investigate about who the guy is, we already start talking about in our forum. Please next time whisp me in game when another thing like this happens, i will try identify the player immidiatly. Thanks a lot and sorry

Actually, it really upset me atm, but it’s not the first time such a thing happened. Cheaters and morons are on every server since no filter can prevent them to play GW2.
So don’t be sorry, you do not have to take the responsibility (or neither anyone on SFR except one) for such a stupid behavior. However, I thank you if you can find out who the guy is and rid him off the GW2 community.

Valheru Baal.9456:

It is not obvious since you have implied it when wrote this:

“You lose the league but definitely you deserve to win this matchup with such strategies.”

It is hard not to take it personally, when you say it is SFR’s strategy to win like this.

Well, you only choose that reading.

My point is that nobody can blame a commander or a community for a single player behavior.
Taking that rationally leads to the point that the “You” target this (or may be those) player who use cheating programs to bias a matchup outcome. Though I know cheaters usually have more personal interest and are not likely to be selfless.

It’s good to see after 7 weeks of tense, people can still play with sense of humor
Let’s see if we can keep it good after this matchup.

You’re a bit late in the topic Rayya.

However, You find me happy to hear about your achievement.
Good for you, it’s what the game is made for, I hope everyone enjoy it.

But do not convince yourself that it’s Vizunah you are fighting atm, most of the people are off for some rest after the league.
Fact are, it’s kind a bit hard for those who stayed actually but that’s ok, it somewhat harden us and we might need it. Feeling of easiness always benumb people.

Want a proof ?
Can’t believe there could be cheater on SFR ?

Ok, I just take a screen (and everyone on the keep reported it).

http://hpics.li/3c4c5b9

Obviously I know leads and commanders will not cheat or use cheater. What I mean is that you might have some on your TS that will provide this kind of ‘help’ without your authorization.

Quintosh.9613:

And golems do have a timer, you sure they just didnt despawn?

That could be, but they actually were put at the WP spawn

What a fun matchup so far.
GG to everyone for the fight.

Especially SFR for the cap of T3 Lowland (EB).

Really weird , 2 minutes before your Golems rush on the P2, a ranger came in with fly hack program to destroy our defensives treb… too bad also someone remove every defensives golems (about 10 of them) 10 minutes before the same attack, it’s seams that some “synchronized circumstances” were on your side… contingency ?

I guess it doesnt depreciate your achievement.

You lose the league but definitely you deserve to win this matchup with such strategies.

Come on dear friends from Piken.
It was such a bad move to try our south gate on bay map SFR…

Hyperion.1406:

^^ okay maybe sfr can become second but u win this week surely

We will ensure that this will never happened (SFR 2nd in that MU).
So far, so good.

With all due military and gaming respect.

Wolfheart.1938:

They they they. There have been like 2 posts from SFR players about canadians in 5 pages long thread and I’m not even sure they were serious.

One would think that if you make this big of a deal of the official forums (“4 posters represent a server!”) you’d actually pay more attention to it. I still wonder if mr. rogtak has recouped enough energy to actually l2read and notice cazza isn’t from SFR (as pointed out).

LoL !

Can’t remind when this subject was first mentioned, but I’m pretty sure it was in the first months of the game.

That for sure might be only two threads on a forum !

Since this thread has definitely became a “VS canadian night manpower” topics, let me add my stone to this burial.

As a full time night player, I spend hours from 2am ‘till 10am and sometime later.
I play every map, starting with scouting borderlands usually up to 3 or 4am. Then I often switch on EB map because BL are often boring at late night and (at least on VS) we find fun there, especially on the TS which is, to say the least, “relaxed” at this period, even when things are becoming tight.
Is ’night vibes’, I guess it so for other servers.

This to say:

I think I barely know most of the people who plays WvW at night, not closely of course but enough to have heard or seen most of them on the TS. And before someone have some consideration about people not using TS and because pointless figures seam to be so fashionable in that debate, let assume that about 5% of night shift doesnt use TS, most of them are roamers. This is due to Vizunah’s players strong dedication.

Beside, since I’m a registered user, I can see the country flag of each of them. At night, virtually no one is using a proxy, even though, this would increase the number of people showing outer France/Belgium flag.

In fact I have never seen more than 5 flags from NA timezone at the same time.
Actually, most of the flags are french and belgian, let say 90-95% of them.
Since the majority of night player are using TS, we may assume that it’s a ‘representative’ distribution of the server WvW night population and that the number of 5% of the WvW night players outside France timezone is quite fair.

Let me give you that simple teaching : 5% is NEVER significant when we are talking about statistic assessment of a population’s feature. And if you feel so bad about it, take a look at what we are talking: it’s 3 people in a 60 men group.

WHAT AN OVERWHELMING MANPOWER !

I honestly can’t figure how you manage to speak with such a kitten, Kingface, and make so long and argued answer to someone who obviously can’t read.

Does n’t it look like a hudge waste of time ?

It’s just a troll, and a sick one. I’m pretty sure I can predict the content of his next 1500 posts on that forum.

cazza.6078:

Gold league ranking is a ranking of night coverage. 35 from NA is enough to beat all others servers besides VS who has way more Canadian online as this time. 3rd is Jade who has the same numbers like Sfr at night but are very weak at day. Then Piken with some numbers, Baruch, too and then with a big gap the German servers, who have no NA coverage at all.

Stating something wrong and stupid might makes you someone stupid.
Endlessly repeating something wrong and stupid makes you a total lunatic.

Book for a psy consultation man.

Bart.5023:

viz was a total joke this night. ye we got a tick of 0, but after that we got a zerg with about 60-70 players and even when viz had more players they lost every keep we were going for.

You should be proud viz

You mean that nearly an hour on the lord to take your gari back with your 60-70 men blob vs 30-40 is that glorious ?

Ok, I think I got it : Joke inside huh ?!

Glad to teach you SFR is not that powerful server you though it was.
You dont have to be scared by reality, only to accept it.
Not being the best is not a shame.

cazza.6078:

blablablalblalbla

How being such an everlasting looser makes you look so bad !

But keep goin’ man, you make the whole world, at least the whole forum, die laughing whith your patheticly funny anger.

Dawdler.8521:

Lizerunn.9072:

And
as long as neither VS or SFR will let them go to the first place, they are only left with the choice to focus SFR.

That’s not a choice, its just what we have to do. Since SFR say we double team them, well then that’s what we must do. Ironic hilarity ensues. Nobody care who win or loose anymore (well Viz has already won, we all know it) as long as SFR is focused.

Of course, it’s not really a choise. But I mean if I said ‘the only wise move from piken is to focus SFR’, some ppl would have died screaming about some VS/PS alliance, troll or whatever…

Not much suprise expected this week since the two first places of the league goes repectively to VS and SFR whatever the matchup end.

As a matter of fact, the only way for Piken to stay on the third place of the podium is not to end last of that MU (and hope Jade Sea will not win is own MU). And
as long as neither VS or SFR will let them go to the first place, they are only left with the choice to focus SFR. On the other hand, VS will also focus SFR because, due to previous battles, it has shown to be the only server able to challenge them.

Eventualy, this will result in a double focus vs SFR which will let forum’s haters and QQers to spit on everyone and explain A+B that if they still did n’t win it’s not because of them, so strong, nerver failling, but because of brainless blob and unworthy foes.

A story written and played many times before, the sad story of SFR’s forum warriors.
Kudo to the true players of SFR who suffer both from these people and their real opponents on the battlefield.
Hope we’d read more from them in here.

gl to everyone and have a stormed restless matchup.

Dayra.7405:

omphin.1752:

Tygra.4570:

Most of the AS guys are on Jade Sea. Please do not make statements when you don’t have a clue

Most? so how many guilds did u actually get this week from Arborstone? Cause it does show

I heared that a few arbor.guild went to VS and a few arbor-guild went to SFR (to be able to fight VS) and the rest (most of them) to Jade Sea

Actually, the rest stay on AS.
If the main part of the Bloody Flag (R.I.P.) moved away, it’s not all Arborstone.
However it’s the biggest part of its most dedicated WvWvW players.

Mortix.9725:

Quentin Fields.1295:

epochea.4538:

(German and french ones support each other)

I assume that’s a joke Coz last time i check , Vizu & Arbor was the biggest rivals.

and now AS practically merged with VS,oh the irony.

I guess some people are aware they are playing a game while you aren’t.

Huggyos.9584:

Lizerunn.9072:

TheHaldir.6598:

So first night of the second match and I have to say it was the most boring first night of a WvW matchup ever.

Still had one or two good fights – Seems Blacktide and Arbor are slacking.

Absolutly boring… indeed…

What’s the name for a bunch of 60 people fighting vs 20 people inside AS garrison for 2 hours, spending tons of sieges weapons and still loose ?

Oh wait ! It’s a Zerg ! \o/

For slacking considerations, see Trueban. ’s message

I don’t know why necessary to use such words (slacking) on other servers those who are competitive opponents still!

That more hour of hard fight wasn’t boring to me as attacker at garrison. You defended it well, and killed a lot of us, and wiped us at longview too, don’t forget! You were probably more than 20. And I don’t forget the epic fights before that, at other areas of the map, where you killed and wiped us more times with your zerg, what was absolutely comparable in player numbers than ours, if was not more at that time.
Hope the good fights will continue!

Ps.: I liked an ele of you, who remains below textures at Bay, and shooting me from there, and the uber superior catapult at garrison vista, and the super defending small party on the innen gate wall at the south west corner of garrison. I enjoyed them very much ^^

- one from Deso

Of course, I agree with you.
My Ironic reply was adressed to the op.

TheHaldir.6598:

So first night of the second match and I have to say it was the most boring first night of a WvW matchup ever.

Still had one or two good fights – Seems Blacktide and Arbor are slacking.

Absolutly boring… indeed…

What’s the name for a bunch of 60 people fighting vs 20 people inside AS garrison for 2 hours, spending tons of sieges weapons and still loose ?

Oh wait ! It’s a Zerg ! \o/

For slacking considerations, see Trueban. ’s message

How such a thing can be a feature in the best of all the MMO ever ?
Cant believe it :/

Oh well… may be it’s just because they actually don’t give a **** about WvWvW and related players/customers.

Sorry, it was just some 3W player futile concerns… dont mind about it

Tzun.6073:

Enough, now crawl back into wherever hole you came from. Keep this thread clear of crap.

Fair enough, would you do the same ?
Oh wait.. too late actually.

Tzun.6073:

Please, stop trying to turn this thread into a discussion.

Funnily enough, I remember your name from previous “AS” threads, you were there creating an argument too… get some fresh air mate.

……

hmmmm….

…..

Well, well, well….

….

Ok.
AS is winning, you’re loosing.
Is that enough in the subject and not to much arguing for you ?

KiNgPiN.2075:

Tygra.4570:

I wouldn’t be so sure. I guess AS can do a pretty good week.

Cheers from Vz

U guess? How many guilds moved from VS to AS in order to help them stay in T1? Just kidding mate

The funny thing about stupid assumptions in stupid post is that they are stupid

Intigo.1653:

Although you miss out on playing versus SFR it seems, unless VS drops down instead.

Pretty unlikely, though you do your best to get there.
Thx anyway, it gives us more time in T1 to fight you.

abaddon.4768:

thanks again for the small scale pvp in viz vl last night.

p.s proof of vizunah/blacktide alliance!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZ_I77iDW5g

you saw it here first!

Hey ! Want something more pragmatic about server’s wedding ?
Check that perfect symmetry :

[IMG]http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/2493/gw049p.jpg[/IMG]

So far, it’s the most interesting match ever.

But week end is always fun, week time is far less.

And I did not notice [RG] gave more exotic than other player… was I mistaken ?

Sacrx.6721:

Was very good action 2-3k kills. I confess myself a little disappointed with arborstone after hearing about all these solid guilds who roam alone etc. MOS LNM option etc. Was very excited for some guild vs guild with some stepping up to kill us alone.

Guess my expectation for the glorious death was long shot. Here was me expecting some guild vs guild not bring everyone in zone, big guilds included vs 20/25.

Looking forward to rest of week.

Well, what’s your point exactly ?
You did n’t expect to die and you’re a bit disappointed about that ?

Because so far I see how you play (and you guys actually flood the web with RG’s video), and you felt no pain when outnumbered your opponent and when you zerg solo player don’t you ?

So what did you expect ?
That people still play the way you exactly want from them, allowing you to use your 1 button-zerg technics ?

Nobody is playing alone, even yourself. Maps are small and objectives are common.
Sorry we did n’t came with 10 men party to die in a 3vs1 battle.

Excession.2198:

Xenophobic regarding French people?.
What was said actually, in a joke RP post of all things, was that Ruin wanted to stop the French from monopolising Tier 1.

Once, it’s a joke.
Twice, it’s a bad joke.
More… well, it’s xenophobia hiding behind stupid joke.

However, beside a stupid nation to nation trash talk what people really hates from you is the fact that you were, actually, hypocrite when you claim coming on the EU ladder to look for a better challenge while you well known that you’ll face only doors once the couple of nightly players would have give up with fighting against your zerg.

So far, you proved your skill vs doors and that A-net WvW scoring is pointless. But when challenge really came with Blacktide, the smartest of you left while the others move to BT. And you’re still here ? Instead of arguing uselessly, you should be hiding yourself.

The only thing you’ve ruined is Desolation.
Such a shame.

Intigo.1653:

As for fighting, I think you will find us very, very active come reset. Many of us are itching to fight Arborstone (Sacrx and Cyril in particular, as far as I know) and will be fighting many, many hours come weekend. I’m sure we’ll see you all there.

Same here on Arborstone and especially in LNM.

Whoever may win, it will be a long and tough fight everyone of us will enjoy much.
Hope lag won’t be the unwanted guest.

Hurry to meet ya in the battlefield guys.

Feindsender.1043:

European Servers have proven to be:

More challenging.
Better organized.
Do not quit fighting regardless of point score.
Have far more top tier viable servers.

…come on and fight against us in OUR prime time.

Actually, it would be a good idea cause you have a better coverage and we will not unbalanced (the better one will be to remove any language tag and the separate ladders).

However there’s still a problem. We cannot fight against you in YOUR prime time no more than you can do it on OUR.
What we can have is balanced servers with a good worldwide coverage and let the DE/FR/… for people who cant speak English.

Anyway, you seem to have a far good opinion about EU server. I’m not sure it’s that perfect. People are all subject to psychological factors while playing and motivation is an important one. Hard to keep a high motivation within the population while you can’t make any significant move.

Natureswarden.5102:

Ruin and desolation arent going anywhere especially to appease you the only people that would be happy are a handful of you and over ridiculous things you have an answer for and counter for. Things you felt were quite fine for months and are too lazy basically to go and deal with.

No, You Surely wont move.
You came to win vs doors and it’s what you found.
Thus, no reason to leave.

Oh and btw, I actually don’t care about night capping it’s a part of the game, we all deal with it. As you said, there always be unbalanced population at night, it’s impossible to avoid. And that’s why score and ladder mean nothing else than better 24h coverage.

Actually, what made us laugh is people like Ruin NA players that come to the EU ladder claiming to seek challenge and beat the french. So funny, they will beat the french without fighting them. Actually, UK may have beaten the french, they are strong opponents, but nobody will ever know because of the invaders.

Atm GW2 is a perfect illustration of the words : “How can we win when fools can be kings ?”. Not sure Anet will afford the losses.

Aveneo.2068:

Actually, I think that Desolation would be more than willing to make an alliance with Arborstone; just so we can kick Vizunah out into T2

Maybe that way we can get some real WvWvW going instead of certain people barging into any thread that has the word ‘Desolation’ in it and start all this drama, whining and people flinging the term ‘PvDoor’ around as if it’s the latest fashion in France.

So what do you say Arbor? Are you tired of seeing your camps and keeps getting taken by ‘Doorzunah’ every night and want to kick Vizunah out of T1 permanently? I’m sure we would be able to work out a temporary alliance of our own.

I for one would welcome it, as I personally think you guys from Arborstone fight a lot better than Vizunah and deserve to be in T1. Well, the original Arborstone players that is, not those imported Vizunah players that have been recently added to your collective according to rumors.

At least we may appreciate some kind of humor

Natureswarden.5102:

As for homes theres so many things politically and historically I could say but won’t because we have been asked to keep it civil here and SOME of us play by the rules.

Blablabla…

Only facts :

https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/a-world-of-choice-the-regions-of-guild-wars-2/

Sore looser seeks easy win.
Once again, go home.

@Zumazen :

Can’t wait really ?
It’s not like if you switch to Desolation to fight against NPC/doors and have easy win ?
Quite amusing how most of the serious structures on NA ladder laugh at you.

It’s a pity for the great players of Desolation we fight during our prime time (not to mention IRON and other’s). Actually they really deserve the T1 with their level, but they owe it to your massive unbrain zerg. So sad.

It’s really incredible how many of you can fall in a 10vs40 battle, thanks to Anet, falling is failure but not death. But not surprising though, you’re no more than childish players zergin’ around for caping. The score is enough to make you forget the nonsense of your life. Actually you may think you are so powerful even if being 50-60 it took you 1 full hour and several try to capture a simple tower only guarded by 5 men.

Eventually there’s something you must understand.
We definitely are not like you. We want great fight (that we get when we fight vs the real players of desolation on prime time, you’re no more than some parasites) and hard win. We are happy to fall if the battle was tight and epic, because we know it’s a game, it’s competition, it’s not about wining or loosing, it’s about giving the best of ourselves and becoming better. Our lives aren’t at stake, only the fun.

On the other hand, you only play for easy win, the big number is all that matters to you. Unable to have fun and to win on your own ladder, you came to EU in order to find empty keep because the victory is all what you aim no matter the way. None of yours night achievement is won under a min ratio of 1vs4. You simply fool yourself thinking an unbalanced won match makes yourself skilled and tough player.
Of course it’s not. Actually it might be the exact opposite. You are bad players, sore losers and sad winners.

You proved nothing so far and you really managed to be hated by most of the EU community. Odd things that really happened anytime you go somewhere in the world claiming your strength, you’re just so harmful and ridiculous as can be a stupid small boy playing with a gun.

I wont salute you for destroying the WvWvW EU ladder.
Go home if you have any.

Dear Ruin’s players !

Greetings from the Arborstone’s french speaking server.

We are honored that the overall mastery and excellence entity of the GW2’s WvWvW pay so much attention on our simple persons.
We acknowledge your wish to join us in tier 1 EU bracket and learn some basics WvWvW tactics and give you a warm welcome.

So you think you are well informed about our main structures. Actually It’s quite funny to read your so-called analysis about that specific point. You made us laugh, it’s priceless, tanks for that buddy.

Guess what, we have also some pieces of intelligence about you and we have been told that you are more like a bunch of “unbrained” zerglings that lie down quickly on the battlefield.

You pretend to bring The desolation on our servers ?
Come on and face humiliation, at least you’re well used to it yet.

Bring your frail and sweet kitten’s white a***s in.
We will spread your rotten corpses across the borderlands and your children will serve as meal for our war-hounds.

You have warriors ?

We are

WAR !