Guild Wars 2

Then we can follow KISS principle (Keep It Simple, Stupid)

+1 for “Necromancer Guild [DEAD]”

Voted for “Necorpolis” and “Death By Death”. guild tag [DEAD] is cool, I won’t mind to carry it.

ASCII build is so nice, actually its versatile build which is suitable for almost everyone

however, since commanders need to play melee-style which means you gonna suffer many stuns you should get yourself some stability to let you push without interruption

you can only switch straits on same ASCII set:
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vQAQNBHhZakjmaabpxnG+bTATK6e8IFDvM1jyR/cA-zUBBYfCiZnFRjtMqIasabYqYER1kCgJhRA-w

still want to be more durable ?… go with soldier trinkets/weapons:
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vQAQNBHhZakjmaabpxnG+bTATK6e8IFDvM1jyR/cA-zUBBofCiZnFRjtMqIasKbYqXER1kCgJhRA-w

see i love 30/30 builds but in PvE/sPvP only,
for wvw zerg fights with 19K HP & 2200 armor and making myself rally bot oh please no !

since necro have almost zero defensive tools and bad mobility believe me you don’t want to go offensive DS and waste your last & only escape ticket

better to go with Acsii build which is 0/25/25/20/0 (don’t try to roam with it)

or 0/20/0/20/30 to push hard with melee train by using warhorn #5 and spamming your DS to gain stability and fury

Knight armor with melandru runes + lemongrass food + get yourself organized guild/group… oh yeah don’t forget your salvage kit tool also

you can also run full zerker trinkets if you are experienced WvW player or full PVT set if you want to be more tanky, but tbh i advise commanders only to go with PVT

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fQAQNBHhZakRLTvSzTjfPBMpo7xjUM8yUPKH9zB-jkyAYLBRyCE9BgQAmALiGbZsIasKGMNcSVxCyeDMpAYSYE-w

Tried it in WvW open combat

the basic idea of this signet is fine, but in real practicing i’m still finding Consume condition way better, well actually if you want to support your commander you can give him transfusion which is safer.

to be honest the first impression about this signet is not good at all i may try other scenarios and check where exactly this signet could shine

hopefully more testing and calculations can give us clear idea in future

for me I think guardian is the easiest target

take some time but can’t resist condi pressure forever

also guardian is really friendly comparing to angry warrior with that “perma” CC xD, smart memser with those illusions, or thief abusing his stealth

Linguistically Inept.6583:

LoRdZeRo.5364:

it depends on how you prefer to play and game mode

for me,
Dungeons: 30/10/0/0/30 Full zerker

why not 30/25/0/0/15?

Since its zerker build why should i go through curses line?!

i think the only reason that let me spend 25 in condi line is to get (25) minor trait

Well.. why i think 30 in Soul Reaping should be better ??
+30 crit damage
+50% crit chance (XII) in DS (with zerker set you should be able to get 100% crit chance in DS)

so basically your best damage will come from DS #1, you can also gear it with “Reaper’s Might” from spite and “Unyielding Blast” from Soul Reaping and finally you cleave at 5-8k/hit (since all hits are crits it depends now on number of might stacks you have)

the damage is good, however the only issue here is the survivability to solve it you can reduce crit damage and get some toughness/vitality, the only thing you need to care about is to keep your crit chance at 50%

hopefully its clear now

it depends on how you prefer to play and game mode

for me,
Dungeons: 30/10/0/0/30 Full zerker
PVE & WvW (Large scale): Power+Wells 5/10/25/30/0 mix of (Soldier + Zerker) or (Knight + Cavalier)
sPvP/tPvP/WvW Roaming: Terror (Condi always fun in 1-5 players xD)

for leveling I always suggest to my guild mates Minion Master build with Staff + dagger or Axe for lvling up faster, an easy start to understand necro play style, also the ability to go full power, condi or even any mixed stats with any weapon and without putting much focus on survivability + the fun of face rolling your keyboard =P

after you reach lvl 80 and understand necro mechanism you can go deeply in Wells for powermancer or Corruption for conditionmancer then more advanced in terror, Death Shroud and other hybrid builds with rest of Signets & Specrtal utilites

also don’t forget to have a look on Namesis guide :
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/necromancer/Necromancer-tutorials

1- I was on Power build, it took me +100 tickets (Staff / Axe-horn + Lich) to get it

2- Conditonmancer can be easier than Powermancer

Now the real challenge for necro is 8 orbs

its not impossible, but its clear that this challange is unforgiveness for necros since we have no access to any useful defensive tools that means we should be able to do it with zero mistakes

for me i’m just satisfied and feel good that i really achieve such challenge with endurance food + Swiftness boon only, while i see other classes have tons of helpful tools and still complaining & QQ

long live necro, nothing can break your spirit !

+1
i suggest to change LF color in Party UI

Some funny stories :P
In PvE :
Player: heyyy necro, you are about to fall i’ll come to you
Necro :what ?, oh no… don’t worry i was in DS !

In Dungeons :
Player: okay necro, keep stacking on boss i’ll heal you… Skill activated
Necro: why u waste your skill man i was in DS -_-

tPvP Group Leader: you there, go and help necro
Player 1: try to hold there necro, coming to you
Necro: huh?
Leader: Whaaat !

WvW Guild Event on Teamspeak:
- Commander: left.. right… i need veil… throw all of your AOE & CC on me now
- Someone: OMG, necro in my party from no hp to full hp in 1 sec, what that OPPP healing
- Suddenly Everyone on chanel: yep i yes told unbalanced you OP necro no wooo lol Life Force Death Shroud
-Commander: to the right to the right… dodge now dodge now… water field… blast blast
-Necro: What?? OP ??, noooooo i was in DS guys
-Commander: KEEP THE FK**** channel clear NOW !!

one of common questions that have a lot of funny answers

well, i think Mr. jagged horrer is only useful for generating LF after dies !!

you could see a lot of them around you if are you running healing build

anyway its just useless minor trait and we hope devs can get us something better

To be honest healing/support mancer is not that amazing idea

as i remember the two abilites that take a use of healing power and benefit the allies
1- Well of Blood
2- Staff #2

- Transfusion (2600 for each ally NOT affected by healing power)
- Deathly Invigoration (each time you leave DS you do AOE heal: 267 + 0.32 x healing power for each ally, you are healed also)

so what you should do as healing mancer (Staff #2 – DS #4 – Healing Skill – go in DS then leave then again Staff #2 and so on)

but i won’t advice you to take healing power, although you could actually take Transfusion always with you to help your party, 2600 is fixed amount, i used to equip Transufusion for some Dungeons like CoE, not a bad idea to invest 10 points on it

as you see nothing really impressive about healing mancer

anyway if you still wanna play as healing mancer, you can watch this video for Namesis explaining almost everything about healing mancer : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6pnXc_Rp3k

I would like to get my Greater Marks again

but that DM trait line is horrible and i dunno where is the logic behind spending 20 points on useless minor traits if not playing Minion Master build and we simply suffer all of that just to get greater marks !!

I’m thinking seriously to play another profession… since beta and with each new patch Arenanet keep proving one thing —-> they can’t fix necro and they keep make it worse i’m affraid that necro will stay unstable profession forever and necro community will never stop complaining and other players will never stop saying that necro is OP & unbalanced class

its time to live without greater marks mate, or just spend 20 points into DM if you feel bad without it, or you can do like what i did for PvE and replace the staff itself with another weapon

I saw most of necro WvW builds it is all about scepter with epidemic and tons of conditions it is amazing for non-organized WvW open fight or those servers on low wvw tier

but once we talk about organized zergs/guilds with heavy classes running shouts build, 80% of necro conditions will be thrown in trash by those angry warriors and guardians

Organized zergs relies on heavy classes which actually generate tons of boons and share it together also take the benefit of some combos to stack might, swiftness…etc, so most of necro builds such as conditionmancer or builds that rely on DS will simply fail

I’m always trying new WvW builds on my necro and test it with my guild, right now I’m with ASCII side because what a necro should do in such fights is to counter their tactic by
1-striping their boons using axe & WoC
2- chill, cripple and blind them as mush as you can
3- any single target skills/traits is useless so better to focus on how to maximize our AOE and make it strong (dagger is not good, scepter needs epidemic)
— unfortunately we don’t have any weapon that cleave like other classes so till now i never found a weapon that do the job beside Staff except Axe and its skill #3

4- plague is the best choice as Elite Skill and works fine with Chill of Darkness
5- taking Chill of Darkness in not a bad idea and it works fine with Well of Darkness also, so you turn your necro into zone control machine which is awsome while defending lord rooms
5- hp 21k-24 is enough for any necro but you need to find a way to regenerate fast, i know siphon health/life stealing is not that good but its better than nothing
6- Death shroud in WvW is just for skill #5 & #4 or another hp bar if you are about to get down don’t expect anymore than this, so Soul Reaping trait line is only useful if you want more crit damage
7- any CC is always amazing in WvW and Daze in not bad at all
8- Warhorn is the best if you don’t like it you can replace it with off-hand dagger which is also suitable for WvW
9- toughness is like mistakes forgiveness its recommended in WvW but also you don’t need tons of toughness if you think you are good player
10- Greater Mark is not about radius only, it makes our Marks become unblockable (since Arenanet move it to Master i’m trying to make new WvW build without it)

The way that ASCII thinks is correct, if you are experienced WvW player, this build is what you need while playing with commander not roaming alone, with Guild not PuGs

ASCII, your build is 80% similar to mine but i’m trying to do some improvements on it

-I’m thinking to remove the Death Magic trait line and and complete Blood magic grandmaster with Vampiric Rituals (in WoC for example it will heal 42 * 5 players * 5 pulses = 1050) you can say 3k if you use WoD, WoC and WoS which is not bad amount

so you gain:
+100 vitality
+100 healing power
+ 3k Siphon health on average 33 sec (from wells)
+ 5% damage while hp above 90%

PLUS one of these options :

Option A (10 points in spite + 5 in Soul Reaping)

• remove 3 condi/kill every 10 sec
• heal 1k/kill every 5 sec
  +100 power
  +10% condi duration
  + 5% crit damage

Option B (10 points in Soul Reaping + 5 in Spite)

• heal 1k/kill every 5 sec
  +10% crit damage
  + 50 power
  +5% condi duration
  -15% DS skill cooldown

Option C (Full 15 points in Spite)

• remove 3 condi/kill every 10 sec
• heal 1k/kill every 5 sec
  +15% condi duration
  +150 power
  +90 healing power

Option D (Full 15 points in Soul reaping i won’t recommended but still an option )
+15% crit damage
- 15% DS skills cooldown

• Spectral Armor

So what do you think is worth it to lose
+100 power
+250 toughness
+25% boon duration
-20 cooldown on staff skills

• Greater Marks

Why i’m suggesting remove Death Magic trait line because of those useless 2 minors in Adept and Master which related to Jagged-horror & +20 toughness for each minion

I used to love doing CoE specially if running support build, however i can’t enjoy this build anymore <<< guardian in party is much better than poor necro

1- I tried full cleric-siphon with wells and staff/dagger and its just faceroll fight and keys spamming
2- although that cleric build doesn’t look fun because the lack of damage so you can simply run full berserker with 30 point in soul reaping and rely on dodge to avoid most of AOE attacks and Death Shroud to absorb rest
3- I never tried Conditionmancer in CoE but i think will face some troubles with alpha

my last CoE run i was on Dagger-Dagger/Axe-Warhorn with Wells utilities (Soldier/Berserker armors and full Berserker weapons/accessories) and it was good run

Enundr.9305:

thank you Engels……and ill bring this point up…..Burning…?….BURNING?
What part of the aspect of death is ever considered BURNING?!?!?!
We are NECROMANCERS , not ELEMENTALISTS!!!!
WE BRING THE COLD TOUCH OF DEATH IN GRENTGHS NAME!!!! NOT BALTHAZAARS!!!!

In Short , REMOVED DHUUMFIRE , NOONE wanted it , reverse some of the nerfs (aka the terror dmg nerf). We are NECROMANCERS , we bring the cold touch of death , not the hot burning wrath of balthazaar , we reap terror into those that fear death.

;-P

You know what Anet…

I have 100% PvP played matches with necromancer & i’m here since GW2 beta, i’m one of those who just play necro, only necro, the Phantom, the Reaper…

I need to feel that i’m really walking the line between life and death

I will not go to play another profession because you can’t understand how to fix my necromancer, how to make necro looks really like a “Master of Dark”

Axe #1 is horrible
that funny Jagged horror is just…
No reliable escape mechanism
Life stealing is another joke
Death Shroud supposed to be our real gun… unfortunately it’s not

c’mon Anet we want to enjoy while playing with necro, you really don’t feel that something is wrong ?

1st.
I’ll not blame Xaoc, Xt and sp, anyway they just made their name & their server look really bad…

2nd.
“We all are part of the game economy, and those who exploit it are hurting the rest of us.”
“Exploit closed. Worst offenders terminated. That’s what has to happen to make things right for all of us.”
(ArenaNet Support Liason Gaile Gray)

I hope if these words of wisdom will be applied if we consider the word “WvW” instead of “economy”…