Guild Wars 2

I didn’t get the chest with the Page specifically for FoTM but I did get the chest for just the Dailies tab .

Am I suppose to do this twice ?

Land of Cheese.2584:

Anet pushed fractals as “the new dungeons” — content open to anyone. What they gave us are fractals that are even more “hardcore” than they ever were. The equipment you need to get into them is more prohibitive to get, you have to grind masteries, and if you deviate from the dailies, at all, for any reason, you lose about 1/3 of the money you put in unlocking encryptions (unless, of course, you buy keys with matrices).

This is embarrassing.

(I was doing level 50s before HoT, I’m not complaining about it not being made “easier” for me, I’m complaining about the changes being … confusingly poor.)

It’s k we have Raids kappa

Nephziel.6053:

You can’t seriously expect same drop rate when the fractals are so dumbed down is almost no challenge at all.

Not to mention you only do 1 instead of 3 and if you are doing 3 you can chose 3 which are quickest and suit your party the best

This isn’t a question of whether the new system is faster or easier, it is but it’s obvious that the same amount of time spent now compared to the amount of time you spent pre-hot is grossly nerfed in regards to ascended drops .

Now you can do an entire week of all the dailies even post Frac 50 and your chances of getting an ascended is extremely slim (actually near zero percent) compared to pre-hot where you would get a decent chance at ascended for doing a bracket of fractals .

SeriousSituation.3462:

This stealth nerf really makes me sad. I don’t understand the reasoning either. It’s not like everyone has ascended. Heck, 90% of anyone I run into doesn’t.

This is the challenging content they were talking about ! Of Course ! Not that the actual Fractals would be challenging, but the quest to get access to them !

CorrynnStarr.7942:

Speak with your playing time people… when their numbers reflect no one doing fractals, there statement of “we want fractals to be endgame for PVE” will be a joke and everyone will know it. Just dont do fractals till they relent and fix it. Speak with your time…

Not really, don’t do fractals that’s cool with ANet, you’ll do Raids but wait maybe you’ll need Ascended and how do you get that without forking over a limb ? Oh right, pre-hot Fractals .

They are making Raids the new Shiny new content while not adding any new fractals and making them a lot less fun for a reason .

Stoaga.8190:

5 man team instance is pretty rip right now yeah

It’s pretty obvious they are pushing to make raid semi-ascended needed . Nerf the drop rate without telling anyone, pushing the prices further and further up .

Making the PvE content HoT-Gated along with Gold Sinks for the ride .

As is leaving stuff out of patch notes is unacceptable.

There have been sample test and a lot of personal experience from a lot of players about the drop rate of ascended gear and cost increase of acquiring ascended gear pre-HoT.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/18IHVJao5j85KOp6lBTOgO8qs4VYD3Xty-jKPZo8o-Q4/pubhtml

Pre-Hot there was at least a chance to get drops from doing Fractals, the higher you go the higher the drop rate but post patch the drop rate has been severely nerfed (almost non-existent about as rare as Black Lion Keys).

Now if this is a bug, there has been no communication (besides off-hand comments about Looking at it on another website) about it being so even though there is a huge influx of concerns and threads but if this is deliberate, then why can’t ANet just come out and say it is instead of trying to not say so, I understand you don’t want to upset people but just staying quiet is blatantly disrespectful to your player base.

Now the cost of Ascended is rising due to this because the idea that the new PvE content Raiding will be a lot easier with it, new players and players who are not the 1% who can throw around all the gold can’t really afford a new set unless they grind it out.

It’s clear to anyone who has done Fractals pre-hot, that post-hot the drop rate has been obliterated which should have been fixed by know or at least talked about. Saying there is a road map for “Looking at it” in the future in an interview on another site is disheartening.

Don’t get me started on these new TF2 styled Fractal Rewards aka Gold Sinks. You already destroyed Dungeons, now it seems you guys are hell-bent on making Fractals as un-fun as possible so people are forced to try Raids and when they fail come clamoring for the increasing priced ascended mats.

TL:DR – Ascended Gear drop rate severely nerfed without saying Post-HoT, no communication between players and Anet besides some off-hand comments in an interview on another site and the rising tide of Ascended Prices seem to fall into the Gold Sink / Grind 2 Play theme of the HoT expansion.

ferdi.1452:

They are looking in to it. Whether they’ll do something about the horrible fractal rewards in general is another thing.

“The reaction to the core changes to make fractals more approachable by playing one at a time has been really positive – but there is some work to be done still in the smaller details like balance, XP, and reward rates.”

From the colin interview
http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/game/473/feature/10256/Guild-Wars-2-Heart-of-Thorns-One-Week-In-with-Colin-Johanson.html

They are looking into it ?

The old “Road-Map” excuse, please it’s been 2 weeks since hot and in those two weeks there are been an large amount of people bringing this up, and not even one direct comment on it, just some random quote from a interview . Right now they are deciding on how to word it so that people won’t get upset or say it’s a “Bug” and then back-pedal . The difference between drop rates pre-hot and post-hot are light and day, and it’s just bluntly not caring about the player base as they can’t make up their mind and just try to shuffle in stealth nerfs .

Just a flesh wound.3589:

So, no source, as in you don’t know if it’s a bug or the drop rate was deliberately changed.

Yes it’s a “Bug” of course it is .

rapthorne.7345:

The developers have always been selective with what they include in the patch notes, it’s a bad habit I hope they can break

It’s annoying when they blantly nerf something, leave it out of patch notes and then “Roadmap” it and fix it months later and everyone praises them like Anet can do no wrong .

Just a flesh wound.3589:

Source?

Look at the fractal dungeon forums, there have even been sample test .

Anyone who has done fractals (steady) pre-hot and then after can you drop rate was nerfed severely .

Reducing the drop rate of ascended chest when HoT was released from somewhat feasible to Black Lion Key percent ?

It was quite an important piece of information “Left Out”

“Challenging Content” aka increase the HP of everything and decrease rewards cause gating is challenging content .

Mah skill-cap

Spent in Fractals due to HP SPONG CHALLENGE WARS and fix bugs when it increases time spent (Cliffside spawning / Box-Stacking in Aetherblade)

But you can’t fix simple bugs like mobs getting stuck in aqua ruins during releasing the prisoners or diviner not dropping a hammer during break phase when it is actually a bug as well ?

Inc “RoadMap for 2015”

Incoming “Road Map” excuse from anyone who dares question ANet !

So we nerfed the hell out of Ascended Chest drops from dailies and added an item where you need to salvage ascended !

I’m loving these “Increased Rewards” and “Challenging Content” !

Ayrilana.1396:

What non-infinite spawning ones are doing that? I’ve ran through each of the paths in Dragon Stand many times and have not encountered that issue.

Basically any of the “There are X Modrem in this area, kill them to finish the event” where there is a finite amount of enemies .

Also 0 loot at all at times where I only get EXP from mobs .

What’s the logic behind some mobs that don’t give exp or loot, or mobs that give exp but no loot ? I mean I understand if they were spawning infinitely until x event is complete .

Doing Dragon Stand and a lot of non-infinite spawning mobs are doing this . Same with Fracs .

I’m assuming so we can extend the grind as are all things .

Did they remove some mobs from giving EXP and Loot ? Just did reactor, mobs that used to drop stuff and EXP now don’t .

Done all 3 brackets for the past week 0 chest, some rings

What a game

Astralporing.1957:

The sarcasm is strong in this one.

What ? I’m being completely serious, don’t you see all the serious replies

ITT: Why ANet is “successful”

Add AR checks on everything and increase their HP by a multiple of 8, thank me later Anet .

Finally Teq just won’t be a zerg fest but a skill laced, edge of your seat, action pumped mission only made for the most skilled .

It’s going to be locked behind a mastery which you can only unlock if you put 100 icy runestones, 10k ectos, 20 nightfurys and some random other kitten item into MF

maxinox.6283:

Take some condi users with you and you will finish your fractal as fast as before, even faster because you can’t die now. No more boss OS.

So we’re switching from a zerk meta to a full condi meta, what a compelling change in game-play, +A work – Everyone drinking the kool-aid

Kordash.2197:

Oh look, another useless whinny thread

Oh look, another blind follower

Tree.3916:

Looks like you need some Tequila for all that salt.

Looks like you need a napkin for all those juices around your mouth.

Cut fractals so you only have to do one but add “Challenging Content” aka LET’S ADD MORE HP TO EVERYTHING, SO IT’S CHALLENGING ! Basically making the time to complete 1 fractal now to 2 – 3 fractals pre-hot so we get that artificial “Fractals are better now” .

Ingenuis .

INC : “PLEASE ONLY CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISM PLS MY SAFE SPACE” when it’s clear there is no communication between the players and ANET about this . Hell, they haven’t even addressed why the new frac vendor has been offline for 1 day+ .

This reddit thread pretty much sums it up
https://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/3qe4rl/fractal_bosses_too_much_of_an_hpsponge_now/

Adding HP and lowering dmg isn’t challenging, Anet stop trying to justify stretching out the content here

1 Fractal now (40%) takes about as much time as doing half of the 4/4 fractals pre-hot which I’m sure was the intended purpose so that you think your going quicker but really your going 50% slower this is all still in zerker gear

Like it doesn’t trigger any of the healing traits but it is indeed healing

ITT: People who don’t know the difference between Challenging and Gated

You need the “Commander Chat” mastery from the Commander mastery line to get enable this .

You need the “Chineses Heritage” mastery from the Great Wall master line to get it .

You need the “How To Train Your Tiger” mastery in the Maguma Mastery line .

No, but we can get a Dev telling people where to get Flax Seeds so people who actually explore and do stuff can’t don’t make so much !

Hybrid as in I’m just taking staff to heal bit if I need to but looking at it, would Sinister or Viper be pretty for SB ?

LughLongArm.5460:

Its not about power or condi its about the hits. Condi ticks wont build AF, but i think trap ticks or bonfire ticks for example do build AF.

So shortbow AA should build faster then longbow AA ?

Or does it strictly build from the hit (power) ?

Takoyakii.2146:

Maikky.8526:

reapex.8546:

Maikky.8526:

reapex.8546:

Maikky.8526:

Unblockable, undodgeable one shots

What a game

If you’re getting one shot, you’re either doing something wrong or need to change your gear.

Someone hasn’t fought any of the canopy champions

Someone has and lived.

Yeah when Axemaster does 100,000+ unless your in shroud, that +50 toughness is totally going to block that

That’s sarcasm btw, if you didn’t catch it, maybe I have to explain to you

If I remember right.. maybe cc boss to stop it might help you.

Nope, locked

bloodletting wolf.2837:

I set foot into PvE for the first time in a while and was disappointed with the new mobs. Still far too easy.

When your content is either too “Easy” or “Have X Mastery or Die” there is a problem .

reapex.8546:

Maikky.8526:

reapex.8546:

Maikky.8526:

Unblockable, undodgeable one shots

What a game

If you’re getting one shot, you’re either doing something wrong or need to change your gear.

Someone hasn’t fought any of the canopy champions

Someone has and lived.

Yeah when Axemaster does 100,000+ unless your in shroud, that +50 toughness is totally going to block that

That’s sarcasm btw, if you didn’t catch it, maybe I have to explain to you

Sylent.3165:

Problem is the challenge is around every single corner in the new maps while it should if remained in just raids and fractals. Open world pve just kinda became not as much fun.

No the problem is that instead of actually making challenging content, they just lazily made content that is DIE unless you have “X”, that’s not challenging, that’s just lazy .

And then people circle-jerk and praise for such “Good Content”

reapex.8546:

Maikky.8526:

Unblockable, undodgeable one shots

What a game

If you’re getting one shot, you’re either doing something wrong or need to change your gear.

Someone hasn’t fought any of the canopy champions

Unblockable, undodgeable one shots

What a game

This doesn’t make any sense at all .

Anymore ?

Kappa

Competent, raided in other games before (not that that’s really a good dictation . Looking for a guild to start raiding and clearing as soon as HoT opens up .

Main ranger .

Got voice / comms, ect

Still no DPS or any form of tagging in CF RIP

Let me heal you but not get anything out of it

Still going to be only good in raiding (iffy) and not really good in any of the other content

Releasing these changes on launch so Ranger’s don’t know how screwed they are before the launch and ask for more work then wait 6 months to a year after HoT launch to buff/change themmmmm can’t wait for the neverending Ranger-Cycle

Or the dead dream, Druids are good on the 23th with the changes, people complain, nerfs in the same week gonna be funnn

Meanwhile “Here are all the Daredevil and Dragonhunter changes for after BW3!”

Holding off until the launch for reasons …