Guild Wars 2

Werat.7063:

maybe someone can point out who this jorgandalf is. He is a commander hogging eb since this match up and got just over a 1000 achievment points and i have been wondering if that is a bt player who came over with the needed funds. On second thought i would totally be not surprised if its one of ours with a second account. Apparently vh got back-up on the karma train support as well.
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is sor going to send a commander over as well?

Nah, Jorgandalf was around and being useful last week as well. And he obsesses over refreshing the siege in Mendons and Anz too much to be a karma train commander :p

VH and his backup flat out ignore you even when you baldly state that something needs defending, even if it’s being attacked by half the number of his zerg.

Only blatant 2v1 this evening was when we took Lowlands; BG broke the back gate open as the lord was bannered for the 5th or so time, but stood around blocking SoR rather than rushing to contest themselves.

Anything else was just a tendency to aim for t1 towers rather than t3 towers. SM was still contested for basically everything other than the later stages of the Lowlands cap.

On the other hand, I’d say it’s clearly in our interests to be pushing for 2nd, rather than flailing at the server clearly in 1st. Just as it’s quite likely in BG’s interests to give 3 points to a server who’s not going to be capable of placing anyway. What exactly is the problem with playing to maximise league score?

SmoothHussler.6387:

That actually doesnt answer the question. I was asking an oceanic player to chime in and explain what keeps them coming back to wvw considering the servers SoS draws dont have people on when they’re zerging.

This week I think it’s more proving that we’re truly top of t3, since we actually seem to be doing better than typically against t3 or lower opponents.

Also likely to be slightly more fair-weathers, since they had a week off last week and would have built up a slight backlog of world completion.

Didn’t hit +695, EBay capped Longview in the same second we got Arah’s Quarry.

Forzani.2584:

Kovu.7560:

That rekz guild from Ehmry Bay is more dangerous than anything we ever ran into during our stay on T1.

~ Kovu

EB is a very strong server in regards to GvG and solo roaming. I found it ironic..and laughable when TC was telling SoS and CD that they hoped they learned something fighting a T2 server. TC wouldn’t be able to compete vs EB in small man..solo or GvG . Not even close. ZvZ ? TC wins that battle.

Yeah, they’d be so busy ‘not competing’ that they’d be sitting there on +500 PPT 24/7…

Waffler.1257:

If you have a typical 5v5 mid to low-tier fight over a supply camp, and one team wears all PVT, stacks up, and runs around in circles balled up while spamming AoE they would be destroyed.

Well, yes, you do generally need an actual zerg for PVT zerging to be effective.

Doesn’t mean that having enough people to be able to PVT zerg, and doing so, is not the dominant meta at the moment.

Waffler.1257:

but PVT zerging isn’t the meta in WvW, it’s the meta in Tier 1/2

So… it’s not the meta in WvW, it’s just the winning meta in WvW?

Isn’t that, you know, one of the main objectives of meta? To determine winning strategies?

Kreaven.3172:

I would be hard pressed to find another server as resilient as yours.

From everything I’ve heard, and even seen a bit of last week:
Looked in the mirror lately? :p

You’re not the Zombie Coast for nothing.

kurtosis.9526:

So it is possible to command with very terse /s commands, but it depends on the militia knowing what they all mean:

Seconding this. We were actually celebrating last night ’cause one of the better commanders on SoS finally got a mic. He still hardly used it :p

Best way to ‘reward’ those who actually do work in WvW:
Upgrades no longer cost gold.

Direct gold increase for those currently shouldering the defensive burden, which is also currently one of the least rewarding ways of playing GW2 in general.

Rawr.5930:

Mattimeo.2146:

solution: we actually play Maguuma :p

Throw in FA, CD or any of the mob currently fighting in t4 and it’s got the potential to be quite a nice match.

Dont underestimate FA, their fairweather pop is rather large too, if they build up a head of steam early on, they can steamroll.

Also, they have a strong oceanic which counters yours.

But it would be an interesting regardless and likely more balanced than this current match.

‘Quite a nice match’ with FA conditional on SoS and Mag working together well enough (and playing to each others coverage strengths) to stop FA building up that fairweather momentum over the weekend :p

Of course, that might not even be possible, but it would be fun to attempt at least.

solution: we actually play Maguuma :p

Throw in FA, CD or any of the mob currently fighting in t4 and it’s got the potential to be quite a nice match.

Forzani.2584:

Edit: and you are correct. TC is generally more tanky. Whenever I find one solo I have to chase them across most of the map as they run away. They absorb a lot of damage.

another

/golfclap

Wait, you’re saying that one tanky person managed to distract you for long enough to run right across the map, drawing you out of position and letting an unknown number of their reinforcements get past where you were patrolling, and you’re implying that’s some sort of poor play?

Perhaps you should attempt a game type where randomly ganking people actually counts, if that’s all you’re looking for.

RoninDB.9540:

Just wanted to say how great SoS is doing for the past three weeks against larger servers. I’ve been impressed with the skill I’ve seen from your players – the lil asura ele who killed me (tho, that’s not a big accomplishment, I’m terrible at 1v1) was taking out a whole camp. Then he killed me.

Was he [MGWC]? Those little guys are scary good.

Not disagreeing with you, and indeed, I quite like the new system, even if it does seem the variance modifier is currently slightly too high.

But the t1 and t5 matchups (ie. two of the balanced ones claimed) are currently exactly as they would have been had the new system not been implemented.

Canguro.5768:

The problem that we have in Mag is that we don’t have real competition in T3 but we can’t stand any T2 server because of the mass population that they have around the clock.

We either need oceanics to fight T2 or less people in NA to fight in T3/T4

Hang on, just because we’ve (SoS) been stuck facing mainly t2 servers the past 3 weeks doesn’t mean we’re a t2 server.

Can’t wait to actually be matched up against you guys to see if we actually deserved to jump above you in the ratings

TC: great fights out the front of SM south-east gate. That last one outside Durios caused our commander to crash :p

CD: sorry about your third, but I think our commander took some offence at SM being trebbed from WC :p

Looking like SoS should be shedding some rating this week. Probably a good thing, to be honest.

In the meantime, how does SoS + CD vs TC sound to people? Might make the matchup as a whole mildly more interesting for everyone.

Offski.4897:

Majprity of our players dont do pve. Also we are starting to get worried about our rating as BG are about to go above us (Ahh what are Anet thinking), which means we may well get another one sided match up next week.

Pls note I am not talking about skill, but about coverage.

What are ANET thinking? You’re the server claiming to have gone easy on us for this week. Maybe if you hadn’t done that, you wouldn’t be in danger of losing 1st…

Hickeroar.9734:

Eh, not that it matters all that much. A particularly bad random roll could send them to T3 even if they are rated above you…

I think the scores are spread enough that you need a very bad roll in conjunction with a good roll from SoS for any t1 server to risk a t3 fight.

Give us a bad roll next week, and top 2 tiers should be relatively self-contained. We’re just awkwardly positioned halfway between t2 and the rest of t3, and therefore liable to jump to t2 with anything positive.

Zen.8497:

pot.6805:

Zen.8497:

The new system is messed up considering that a sever can outrank another from rating outside of a direct confrontation. Any competitive ranking needs to be transparent and should never be based on gambling. The random roll can favour a server or another rating outcome based on the matchups. regardless of the true server strength. There is no way to verify the random roll and there is no 3rd party involved to predict and verify the results. It seems that Millenium site also waiting for ANet to provide the random roll (through the API or leaderboards) before the end of the matchup so they would then be able to predict next matchups.

That could happen in the old system as well.

It never happened within the same tier, for example in the old system you had to defeat the number 1 server to take it’s place at least 1 time. Same for 2nd and 3rd place and same for every tier.

The reverse actually happened with the old system. t3 and t4 were a lot closer than the old ratings would suggest – the two matches so far where CD (2nd by a long way in t4) has been basically neck and neck with two t3 servers the whole week (I believe actually winning last week?) serve as clear evidence to that.

SoR? Oh, kitten, we’re all going to die.

Let’s do this

LilMcGinley.3890:

Nickthemoonwolf.1485:

Arale.4207:

Nickthemoonwolf.1485:

I’d like to add that the person who trash talked me from shatter inc. also posted a fake LFG for me. Classy guild, they are.

1 persons actions do not represent a whole guild though. Sometimes, bad apples emerge and stray from what the guild actually does. I’d contact the leader first and let them know about it.

that just it though, shatter inc. has not posted on the forums, and unless one of the officers/leaders posts on the forums, the bad apple is currently the face of their entire guild to me, and one other person here.

Rooster posts a lot. I don’t think someone saying “omg you trolled me in a video game” warrants any kind of “official statement” from a guild. Whoever this random person is is not the “face” of TS to anyone who knows them and certainly isn’t going to make any guild hate another.

Lots of guilds, including mine, have a very strict policy about posting on forums, we have certain people who do it and members are watched for what they say.

Rooster is Team Shatter, not Shatter Inc. Completely separate guilds now, despite sharing the same tag in [TS].

I also haven’t seen anyone identifying as Inc. posting on these forums. Though I believe the guild is ostensibly PvE, which may explain a lack of leadership presence on the WvW boards.

FA BL south camp just then. What even.

Sincerely, Team Shatter thief squad.

Nickthemoonwolf.1485:

Member of TS partied me, I was expecting a friendly talk but nope, trash talk right away. I expect better from members of this guild, and I’m sure they expect better of their members.

Team Shatter, or Shatter Inc? They’re quite distinct guilds.

Doomdesire.9365:

Question for SoS. Are you guys putting in any overtime? If not, I’m seriously impressed that you’ve guys have managed to hold your own so well against servers two tiers above.

/ clap

I’ve definitely been playing more than in the last few months, and seen more people playing as well.

However, I would not class it as overtime, more along the lines of we’d like to be playing this much every week, but zerging around EB doing nothing but PvDoor got rather boring after a few weeks, resulting in a drop in numbers.

1. Ehmry Bay, definitely. Spent half our time in t4 hoping they’d make it in, only to be shuffled randomly the week they actually managed it.

2. Probably Maguuma. Though depending on how this week plays out, Fort Aspenwood could be fun as well.

Tobias Steele.2071:

Depends on what you define as winning. Having kitten loads of fun while gaining massive amounts of rating (three whole ranks so far)from your opponents as well as dominating during the servers prime time, to me that’s a win.

Only 150 glicko points behind FA to get that 4th rank at the moment. We can totally do this :p

You checked at pretty much exactly the right time, then, I think that was our peak :p

Highest actual tick was +420. Everyone was yelling in /map when we hit +400. Was pretty awesome.

Nickthemoonwolf.1485:

I’d like to point out that any time I’ve been in mumble when we push your garrison theres always a level of “we’d rather be hitting FA, but oh well” in the commanders voice.

Don’t be like that, we need bags too :p

akitten.8230:

Also for those of you claiming we won by wide-margins every week, that was only due to our oceanic time zone, it was a tight match-up during NA hours, with pretty even battles and PPT.

And now that it’s actually a reasonably tight match-up for us Oceanics, rather than the face-roll we’ve had to put up with for the past few months, you’re in here whining about it?

Put up with it. We’ve put up with the reverse for far longer than a week.

Jayne.9251:

lol, I love TC map chat, always makes me chuckle .. this is after a wipe:

They really are great cookies. I don’t blame you guys for wanting to get in and try some.

Day Trooper: you receive it as soon as the boss chest opens. Actually collecting the baubles in there is not required.

As far as I am aware:

1. No. (got zone 2 without these)
2. No. (got zone 1 without this)
3. Unsure, have been treating as yes.

I’ve noticed that when I use skills that generate fields – I’ve tested with Black Powder, Choking Gas, Shadow Refuge and Smoke Screen, a guildmate thief has tested with them and Radiation field, and a guildmate engineer has also confirmed similar findings – while under the effects of quickness, the field it generates only lasts for half as long.

Not entirely sure if this is a bug – the quickness buff does mention “skills and action are twice as fast” – but it definitely seems to be. Why would a ‘boon’ result in your fields only lasting half an long?