Guild Wars 2

I took my level 2x Necro to Southcover and got t2-t3 drops from the skelds on the beach. Maybe since I was not in the event mobs this was diferent. I farmed the same mobs with my level 80 ranger and got t5/6 blood to drop.

That is very helpful! Love the spreadsheet., so much good information there.

Basically I started this search to determine between power and precision. I am planning to do X-30-30-X-0 Where one of the x will be 0 and the other 10. I want to try them out to see how squishy I am without the extra 10 in acrobat.

So I am trying to decide on which runes to put on my armor.

I am torn between:
Wurm for the Crit damage/Vitality
Warrior for power/vitality
Eagle for precision/
Scholar for Crit/Precision

I just cant afford divinity.

What do you think?

I am sure there are posts that give the details, but I did not find any on a few searches.

Can someone point me to one that goes into the technical aspects of our stats?

E.g.
Whats the most important factor for X skills?
Precision, Power, Crit , Crit damage, condition damage etc

Are their soft caps or hard caps?

Is there any value is getting 5k power? Or over 100% crit?

Thanks in advance for your time.

Mechant

I would do 0-30-30-10-0 and farm southson with s/p. The SE corner has a WP, vendors to sell and pretty good crafting drops. Just avoid the reef drakes as they hurt a lot more. But I have decent luck there using dagger storm, signet of malice and black powder.

Just run up and down the beach on the east side. The sword ae and black powder keep you alive and killing pretty quick.

Thanks Rin! That makes a lot more sense. Coming from DAOC and WOW I was very used to perma stealth.

Sounds like this is a little bit of a PITA but having 2 thieves could make this a lot easier. almost sounds like hidding behind a tree until close than stealthing will work a lot easier hehe

I agree with the above posters especially about Sword/Pistol + Signet of Malice. I tried d/d s/d and a few others but that pistal black powder just cant be beat for pve. I went from dieing fairly often to being a little bored, but could tank vets all day long that didnt have ae attacks. Just watch out for all the mole mobs (immune to blind).

But 2 things to keep in mind Ranger and warrior are 2 of the BEST pve leveling classes!

I would also add get a sigil of bloodlust and do daily quests! Daily quest will get you a level in 10-15 minutes once you get the hang on them. That pretty much stays true to 80.

Haha sorry Focus.

I was thinking about my ranger build.

p.s.
Didnt you know the new uber Ele with warhorns?!

Thier earth is a defensive build and the water is their healing. Thier D/D build is a very high dps build and their water has 1 insta heal and 1 aoe damage heal.

I agree with Caom, Air and Fire are both high dps machines and air is faster than a thief.

Scepter/Warhorn is the most defensive set up. If they have a staff, you should be able to burst them down. The staff is a good group weapon but just dosnt have the burst ability of the other weapon sets.

That makes sense stinkypants. I appreciate all the help and advice!

bobross, I know I am lucky WHEN my wife plays. But she only enjoys playing when we can find some good pvp without zergs.

I tried the S/D combo in pve and had trouble with timing but I will pratice some more to get better before I dare try it in PVP. The FS/LS combo does look nasty for boom designs. I already do the sb for IA to get to or away from things.

How does the perma stealth work? I have seen people talking about it but I dont get it.

I know shadow refuge is 15 seconds on a 60 second CD. So I can see how we have 29-30 seconds stacking 2 back to back. Isnt dark field just an after effect of this ability?

Blinding Powder gives 3 seconds on a 40 CD. So that in theory could get us to 36 seconds stealthed every minute.

I do see Cloak and Dagger once we are in a fight gives an additional 3 seconds on X/D set up.

Is there a combo finisher with the shadow refuge or what else am I missing? I understand culling can impact that, but was there something else to give longer stealth?

I am trying to decide between 0-30-30-10-0 or 10-30-30-0-0.

I will be duoing with my wife also on a thief. I dont want to be entirely a glass cannon so maybe that Valkyrie would be a little better survivability compared to all Berz gear. The vitality over precision might be a good trade off.

I am still trying to decide on weapon set but my thought of S/P seems to be old school and nerfed into very few playing. So maybe d/p or s/d for the FS/LS combo.

Either way sounds like I should find a better use for marka than armor.

Ok I am just starting to have an idea on the spec thanks to help from folks here…so on to gear next.

Based on my findings here are the numbers for the base armor, no runes.

Karma Gear: Mixing Auror/Rubicon
248 Power
48 Precision
224 Toughness
176 Vitality
67 Cond Damage

Exotic Berserker:
315 Power
224 Precision
16% Crit damage

Rare Berserker:
278 Power
197 Precision
16% Crit Damage

Karma Gear costs 252k of Karma
I have a 400 leatherworker so I can make the Exotic IF I can farm the materials or just buy them.

Is the Toughness/Vitality worth the 67 power, 176 precision and 16% Crit dmg decrease.

Is there a better armor set I should be considering?

Thanks in advance for your time,

Mechant

Thanks Jakkson for the feedback.

Do you think 0-30-30-10-0 is better than the 10-30-30-0-0?
So losing 100 power, mug and posion on steal and gaining 100 vitality 2 sec swift on evade and ? Which one would you pick?

Rin,

Thanks for the build suggestions! I will give them a try this week and see what I can learn.

Looking for suggestions on gear to compliment the first build. I will try the sigil of fire on the dagger.

I have considered either Wurm or Warrior for the runes. I like the increased vitality and damage. I would think the 6% crit and 3% damage would be better then the 50 power and 1 second weapon swap reduction, but can someone confirm their thoughts? Would there be a better rune set to try?

Suggestions for the other sigil and/or accessories to go with the build? I have around 100 laurels right now and was trying to decide what to buy.

Thanks again,

Mechant

So let if 2 people played thieves what spec combinations would work well? Or just made 2 thieves with the same spec would work as well?

So my wife and I just got the game a couple months ago and are finally getting to level 80 and would like some suggestions on build/gear. I would expect we will be duoing most of the time.

We have done a lot of S/P leveling with the BP auto attack sword combinations making most mobs die without hurting anyone. This is clearly a low damage build though but high survivability in PVE.

I have seen how PW combined with haste can be very effective especially against less experienced players but has mobility issues with players that can dodge or move out of the way.
I saw this build for s/p
http://gw2skills.net/editor/en/?fYAQNAsaVlUmCPHcS6E9JFx2jeqTeyLwnBZHrWBaC;TsAg0CnoixEjIGbMuYkxsKYMyECA
From this article:
http://www.guildwars2guru.com/topic/45902-lowells-ultimate-spvp-thief-guide-wip/

I would welcome suggestions on a glass cannon or hybrid survivability ideas. Are 2 thieves going to be less productive than other combinations? We loved the BGs in DAOC and would love to find something like that here in GW2 so any advice would be appreciated.

Thanks,

Mechant