Guild Wars 2

Kamadan….WTS….WTB….etc etc

No, no we can’t.

Depends, on legendary commanding prowess alone, definitely Molassas. If you are talking about overall mastery of the game, commanding style, ability to wipe zeros triple his size and just overall skill, the stallion himself Bdews. To disagree you’re a bigot.

Still haven’t answered my question Lahmia

It’s a coincidence as in how….

Whatever tier Mag isn’t in.

Sarika.3756:

The above post makes me want to post a ton of screen shots of heavily sieged keeps owned by the server in question. Saying they don’t do this qualifies as alternative facts.

Has mag sieged things before? Sure, however on a daily basis which gets refreshed during the day. No way. Show me screen shots with time stamps that it is sieged on a daily basis and consistently please.

Sviel.7493:

Spurnshadow.3678:

From what week have these numbers been taken? Why did you not include T1? That makes no sense.

This has massively flawed logic. Number of kills is not an indication of avoidance, it’s an indicator of how bad a server is. If these numbers are form this week, BG has been farming the crap out of the other servers. We aren’t playing as much cause it’s just getting boring at this point. It’s easier to cap objectives on Blue BL as they have a lower population and don’t defend as much as Red. That makes for easier points. It also creates more of an opportunity for farming. Also, Red hits Blue a lot. They’d rather cap the keeps there than deal with BG on Green BL. It’s just the path of least resistance for PPT. Again, nothing to do with hating DBL. BG generally stays on EB and just gets most of it’s PPT from kills from both red and blue. Many of the big guilds in BG just don’t even care to try to flip T3 keeps.

I can’t speak for the other tiers as I don’t know their strategies, but I’m sure there’s much more involved that just “I hate DBL. lets loose rather than playing there.” But my rebuttal point is that there are many more factors than just, it’s DBL, lets not play there.

Hmmm…It sounds a lot like you’re saying that the spike in action on Blue BL is because they’re the weakest server…which is what I said in the first place…Meanwhile, your rebuttal to me saying that was that it was DBL and people didn’t want to fight there and also didn’t want to fight the dominating server…but now you’re saying the opposite on DBL. I’m starting to wonder if I’m talking to a different person, honestly.

Also, I pulled the numbers from wvwintel right before I made the post.

Melanurus.1506

Actually Juno you’re an idiot. Please don’t speak on subjects you’re ignorant on. Maguuma home BL is red. no one on maguuma cares about home BL nor PPT. JQ and a particular commander during SEA and EU prefers to fight doors on empty BLs all day. It has nothing to do to widespread point manipulation, it has everything to do with its 2017 and no one on maguuma cares about winning or losing weekly. Just about fights kid.

For those of you watching at home, this gentleman is a former guildmate of mine. He really hates me, for some reason, but I can’t say I care enough to have ever figured out why.

Anyway, it’s possible that Mag has changed lately, but they did used to play on the borderlands (even DBL) quite a bit. I should know, I fought them myself for weeks. They were so familiar with me just from our fights over Firekeep that 2 separate guilds asked me to hop servers and join them. Either way, the point against using their data to determine whether DBL is popular or not stands. Since Mag is not playing on their home border for reasons that have nothing to do with it being DBL, apparently, it doesn’t make sense to use their lack of activity on that map as a condemnation of it. Thus, I stand by my exclusion of T1 from the data set as it’s skewed by their decision.

Will Maguuma play on DBL if there are fights on there? Yes. Will Maguuma actively defend home bl if it’s DBL? No. it’s a general consensus that map sucks. May I ask what guilds recruited you because they were in awe of your defensive skills? It couldn’t have been one of mags good guilds. Mag doesn’t siege any keep or refresh siege. You don’t understand the mindset of the players on Maguuma. They do not care about PPT or sitting in keeps defending it for hours. They want fights and that’s it. It’s pretty simple.

Sviel.7493:

Swamurabi.7890:

I’d wager in T2, or whenever green is dominating, that the action is on blue borderland because there is less desire to play on either red or green. That’s why I suggested on a previous thread that WvW go to only two maps, one for the highest ranked server to defend (like GW1 Fort Aspenwood) and the other an equal fight for all (like GW1 Jade Quarry).

But the metrics would show which servers when red defend DBL and if they attack DBL when not red.

Let’s take a look at all of the other tiers real quick. A dominating server will be italicized and the losing server will be bolded.

Tier 2
47,210 Total Kills
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25,247 EBG Kills (53.5%)
11,523 Blue BL Kills (24.4%)
5,513 Red BL Kills (11.7%)
4,927 Green BL Kills (10.4%)

Tier 3
44,165 Total Kills
—-
24,537 EBG Kills (55.6%)
8,591 Blue BL Kills (19.5%)
3,748 Red BL Kills (8.5%)
7,289 Green BL Kills (16.5%)

Tier 4
45,574 Total Kills
—-
27,207 EBG Kills (59.7%)
6,986 Blue BL Kills (15.3%)
4,536 Red BL Kills (10.0%)
6,845 Green BL Kills (15.0%)

Note that the total number of kills per tier is fairly constant. This would suggest that either there is similar population on every world not currently in T1 or that kill count is not a good measure of population or activity.

But to your point, the dominating server’s BL does have lower kills in tiers 2 and 3, but not in tier 4. Meanwhile, the losing server’s BL has higher kills in tiers 2 and 4, but not in 3. If we consider both factors and also that some players will always avoid Red BL, the data makes more sense.

However, while we know that some players avoid Red BL since they state it publicly, we must also consider that there may be more at play. Given the stark differences between the two maps and the playstyles they engender, the already shaky metric of killcount-as-activity may not correlate to each map the same way.

**I have excluded tier 1 from this brief analysis as the data is tainted by an intentional and unrelated effort to manipulate the score on a large-scale. That being one server deciding to tank.

Actually Juno you’re an idiot. Please don’t speak on subjects you’re ignorant on. Maguuma home BL is red. no one on maguuma cares about home BL nor PPT. JQ and a particular commander during SEA and EU prefers to fight doors on empty BLs all day. It has nothing to do to widespread point manipulation, it has everything to do with its 2017 and no one on maguuma cares about winning or losing weekly. Just about fights kid.

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/ban-maguuma-world-versus-world

There was a super secret meeting between maguumas top guilds and officials and Mal of oNs, he paid for hundreds of Maguumans refugees of the BG slaughter and has taken them in FC.

Does anyone think it’s a bit excessive to get the both large norn dancers it take 21,600 fractal relics. Really?? Also come on a net lets release some new WvW and PvP exclusive decorations like you do with pve. Anyone else agree?

Oh I didn’t know you can buy it. Thank ou

I have a minor complaint, I was going to craft ascended tizlaks (commanders) armor. So over the course of 6 days I charged Quartz. (Ridiculous this is gated for a account bound material) then I made the exotic insignia for commanders. I know I can change stars of another ascended but I chose at the time not to go that route. So then I bought the recipe to make the ascended insignia, easy enough. After I spent the gold and used my mats I made the ascended insignias. (Like 500-600g) I then made and bought the damask items needed to make the armor. I also made the vision crystals required. Now without thinking I didn’t look to see that the recipe isn’t a bought for laurels or bought from proof of heroics or at the end of DS Meta. I know this is my fault for not looking first but it can only be acquired through a rare drop. That I have to get 6 times. (That’s to make exotic too.) now I have the ascended insignias that I can’t use in the mystic forge to change armor (you need exotic) and I’m stuck having to grind DS until I get the recipe drop, 6 times from a noxious pod. Come on anet this is ridiculous, I should be able to buy the recipe with laurels, through currency completing hot metas or proof of heroics. This is very frustrating. probably 1000g now tied up in armor I can’t make.

reddie.5861:

looks like riverside has transfered too NA, thats pretty much how every single riverside tower looks like + 100 Arrow carts in it also ;D

Not a tower, this is a camp. It was just for fun obviously while protecting it

Justine.6351:

And I thought I was silly for putting an arrow cart, stealth trap and balista in camps occasionally.

Yeah in that you didn’t put enough in there! Lol

also the 2nd shot of it. boom

this is the proper way to defend a t3 camp in t1. I was inspired by YB!

Im not sure if its because the guild i am a part of is a smaller guild, but does anyone find the current price of flax fiber ridiculous? 15-18s per and with the cost of 12 per 1 linen sac and usually needed two sacs it can start getting quite costly to make one tactivator. im glad Anet fixed resonating slivers, now please lower the amount per linen supply sack.

I would be dissapointed if they announce gw3 before they even give us a full tyria in gw1. Let alone any other continent. Also only one expansion since release has been disappointed too. I won’t even mention we still want the other continents too!

Enjoy only responding to anythig with a Zerg because in small groups it shows how unskilled you are as a player? Join TC! Love spawn camping after you stacked a server? Join TC? Wanna join mindless bee swarming like guilds with players who can’t beat you 4v1 so they play 15-20v1? Join TC! Wanna Dutch rudder with eachother? Join TC! Wanna think having a map Q vs 10-20 pugs and easily flipping things you’re good at WVW? Join TC!!!!

Come to DB, right now t2 is in chaos with TC buying guilds, some turds from t1 fortifying TC which is causing TC guilds to come to db. It is a great time to slaughter server stackers!

What’s ridiculous is this alliance of guilds is ruining t2. They made it so unbalanced with fa and db not being able to touch their coverage combined. I don’t understand t1 guilds leaving kitten come to t2 to raise a server to t1. Just stay on t1. Thanks for ruining t2 with your t1 crap

morrolan.9608:

jrambo.8467:

I can not wait until this update. if you look at t2 it has become extremely toxic right now with TC buying up t1 guilds and there is a severe to say the least population imbalance. FA and DB as two servers cannot match TCs numbers and coverage. I for one can not wait for the april update.

I dunno how much was paid to the kitten alliance to move to TC but certainly the events of today show that the beta changes need to be communicated well in advance so players can make informed decisions.

Are they that bored with t1? So the same guilds that were in t1 drop to t2, dominate it and then go right back up to t1. It doesn’t make sense

T1 guilds are jumping down to t2 and its ruining the tier. If you look at t2 it has become extremely toxic right now with TC buying up t1 guilds and there is a severe to say the least population imbalance. FA and DB as two servers cannot match TCs numbers and coverage. I for one can not wait for the april update.

I can not wait until this update. if you look at t2 it has become extremely toxic right now with TC buying up t1 guilds and there is a severe to say the least population imbalance. FA and DB as two servers cannot match TCs numbers and coverage. I for one can not wait for the april update.

No they did not, if you look at t2 it has become extremely toxic right now with TC buying up t1 guilds and there is a severe to say the least population imbalance. FA and DB as two servers cannot match TCs numbers and coverage. I for one can not wait for the april update.

SkyShroud.2865:

i had a unverified insider information
wvw season will be like pvp season, lasting for months with a short break inbetween.
each season will have pre-made players and random players, this is on a wvw scale so it will be like hundreds of premade players. the random players r the people who didnt chose any team before the season and will be thrown into a team randomly if they chose to join during the season. they will be stuck in that team until season over.

then again, is unverified information, still waiting for that supposedly guild chat about wvw overhaul.

That sounds terrible. That would be the death of WvW. A throat slash to an animal that almost bled out

Grimneo.4158:

Is T4 forgotten?

Yes

Chaba.5410:

Caosaur.3871:

I’m on TC and giving this from a roamer perspective.
On EB the roaming is pretty good, until TC decides to go full ppt hero and there’s nothing to fight for hours at a time. Unless you’re into spawn camping lol.
FA continues to get it’s rear kicked every week and I’m surprised they still try considering they basically took SoS’s position.
Can’t say I actually like fighting DB, but it’s better than the horror stories I’ve heard about YB.
Desert borderlands are still somewhat dead, outside of reset.

I’d say t2 is okay, although I do miss SoS.

LOL!

On EB the fights are pretty good. FA gets its rear kicked every week but there’s plenty to fight.
TC continues to go full ppt hero and I’m surprised they still try considering they basically took the position of the most stacked server.

Right now the tier is about who can ktrain the most: DB during SEA, TC or FA during EU or late night. Thrilling. /sarcasm

I don’t understand the way a net does population. There is no way TC has equal population to either db or FA. They can Zerg across multiple BLs.

I’m on db on t2 and it seems like TC has either a) is trying harder and had a resurgence or b) got or bought a lot of new guilds because they are definitely running very heavy. FA has become SoS the little brother and db is caught somewhere in the middle.

MrDire.6235:

Caosaur.3871:

FA continues to get it’s rear kicked every week and I’m surprised they still try considering they basically took SoS’s position.

We … We have to … T_T

You know where to find me buddy, quit being stubborn!

What’s everyone’s opinion of the state of each tier. Obliviously asking all what server and tier you’re on.

Quit crying, sucks to suck bro.