Guild Wars 2

I played 100% solo in S2 and 95% solo in S1.
In S1 I made it to legend and am in Diamand right now, playing not very much anymore sind most games are decided upfront..

I lost exactly 1 game in amber and emerald. “Hard” (and enjoyable) fights started mid saphire where I lost 2-3 in a row but after that I hit ruby easily. Same happened mid ruby – lost 2-3 in a row but after that I went straight to diamand. Most games are a snoozfest and decided after the 1st teamfight bc ppl stop playing.

I had a few enjoyable games. Close ones. They were the most fun for me. But the quality of my teammember is way better than in s1 and that is what I would like to keep.

Take a look at the timer. For the full points (500loss/1500win) the game has to take a special amount of time (I think it is 7minutes, but not 100% sure on that). You get less, depending on how much shorter your game was.

Since a lot of stomps and facerolls happen in this league that seems to be the most reasonable explanation. Just try it out!

If your games are longer than 7/8 minutes (timer down to 8/9minutes) there must be something else.

Ara.4569:

Actually, in case of a draw, the team of the player with the highest personal score wins. In case top player of each team ties, it looks at the 2nd highest, etc…

I haven’t tested the case where all players tie, but I believe that in that case Red team wins.

Actually it takes the points of the whole team, not just from 1. So it is the sum, not just 1 player. So nuffin to do with red/blue whatever.

Exciton.8942:

Exedore.6320:

Sykper.6583:

Exedore.6320:

If the score is tied, then the winner is the team with the highest individual score.

Is that confirmed?

Yes, it’s been that way since launch. The first time a tie happened and someone posted here, a dev replied explaining the tie-breaking.

I thought it is a comparison of the sum of all individual scoring?

As far as I know it is the sum of all players in each team.
A+B+C+D+E vs A+B+C+D+E.
Winner is the team with the higher score.

There is some red post stating the exact thing, i am jsut too lazy to find it :p

What you should do: Avoid any server with a special name, especially the ones with something like “farm”, “daily” or “duel” in it. Try to join a server named “Server [Numbers…]”. You can see how many people there are. I just made a short picture for you.

Actually i wouldnt adivse to join unranked/ranked until you at least knows the layout of all maps. As soon as you do, unranked will be a way better experience than “practice”..

P.S.: This is a perfect example why we need a better tutorial and need to do smt against ‘daily’ stuff (and no, i dont have a good solution, and no, i dont want those daily ppl in my games :p)

ZeftheWicked.3076:

I just…i feel my brain cells dying from reading these replies.

So leaving an unranked game, and sentencing my team in there for a loss is ok because it’s unraked (yes, someone did read the notes and knows full well stronghold is in unranked).

If you people fail to see what’s wrong with testing new content gated behind a RNG chance to hop on it and being presented with choice of either wasting your time on games you do not wish to participate in or giving 4 other ppl who wound up with you the middle finger and leaving the match, then we’re living in two different worlds.

Again. Read my post above yours.
You can q 100times more.. it WILL NOT POP BECAUSE IT IS NOT ACTIVE YET.

And leaving just bc u didn’t get your way is just bad sportsmanship.

ZeftheWicked.3076:

I know and i played. 4 games no stronghold, one hour wasted. Now what am i to do? play additional hours when i care only about the stronghold? Or just leave each time stronghold is not rolled. One day and random chance for it? Travesty.

Uhm.. that is because the Q for stronghold is just starting in 11 hours? It is not up yet. Lol.
Up " from 1 p.m. Pacific Time" (like it is stated in the blogpost) .

Reading too hard?
Might stop complaining and get back to school.

manysongsgw.2931:

To answer your question:

Leaving before or during for any reason will result in 0 points gain. Also, if you’re in a party with that person who left, the rest of the party (not the team) will receive a forfeit status (counted as a loss or 0 points gain… I don’t remember).

It somewhat explains it in the wiki Evan linked:
https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/PvP_Matchmaking_Algorithm#Ladder

if game.result == 'desertion':
    finalScore = 0

Penalty reason="Abandon"    stacks="10"

Reason the dishonor is being awarded. Abandon: leaving a match before the end. QueueDodge: leaving or failing to confirm you’re ready for a match. Banned: When a GM determines you may no longer participate in ranked or unranked arena.

-From the wiki page

NOT true.
Because we got a grace-period.

As long as you are not longer away as (i believe) 60 seconds, you still get points. Tested and proofed by myself.. I sadly have to switch due to stacked classes or stacked turret engies (i love my staff ele..). It takes me approx 20seconds to switch chars and i still get my +points on the leaderboard.

Here is just one turret in the air, but you can see what a flying turret is.
Just imagine that with even more…

Nike.2631:

How are they capturing?

They are not stealthed, they are invisible.
They can act like someone visible, you just can’t see them.

Just bc someone didn’t get banned for using it, it doesn’t mean it is fair sportsmanship.
In the attached screenshot no one could take that turret down. So free knockdowns for the engie all the time without any possibilities to destroy the rocket turret.

It’s a bug/glitch and shouldn’t be abused. But that’s just my 5cents…

kylwilson.9137:

Meri.7512:

If you are away for more than 60 seconds your team is in an great disadvantage. That grace period is long enough for a lot of player. Everything else is just too long to be fair.

Might suck for you, but sucks even more for the 4 ppl who are 4v5.

This addresses literally none of what the OP was talking about in regards to the effect grace periods have on leaderboard standings. Soapboxing.

That was a quote to the thing above me
So QQ more.

Hag.4605:

I just looked into Justin ODell posts

Justin ODell.9517:

Aphrodite.6851:

Today our team played 5 pvp ranked games .
and 5 win.
But LB show 4 win 1 lose.

Looking at your game history, your team definitely had 5 victories on Jan 19th, but someone had a desertion for the second game, so the entire party was also marked as desertion which is included in the loss column.

To get marked as a deserter you must have been disconnected from the game for a cumulative 60 seconds.

We mark the entire party as deserters to prevent exploits where one member of the party will desert to invalidate the result for the rest of their party. We will be changing this soon so that the other party members do not get marked as deserters if their team wins, but the player that was disconnected for a full minute will always get deserter standing.

So probably i got marked as an deserter O.o
But that just impossible because from my -maploadinfo it took me 17 sec to login to the lobby and 14-15 sec to load on the map (from what i know it count you as “logged back” when you are loading to the game map)

Or just log-in server didn’t see me. Maybe something to do with this error that you can receive when being in the game after disconnect “The game client is unable to gain access to the log-in server at this time.”

It must not have been YOU. Were u in a party with someone? If he/she was away for over 60seconds and you are in the same party u get the lose too, like Justin said.

kylwilson.9137:

60 seconds is still too short of a window.

Not sure it’s the same for other players in AU, but it can be up to two minutes between the game becoming unresponsive, getting the disconnection error, the white screen that follows, the SECOND error telling you to restart the client, the client then automatically restarting, and then getting back into the game.

It’s pointless.

If you are away for more than 60 seconds your team is in an great disadvantage. That grace period is long enough for a lot of player. Everything else is just too long to be fair.

Might suck for you, but sucks even more for the 4 ppl who are 4v5.

(edited the quote in, since someone qq’ed and derailed that thread even more)

As far as i know they upped the time window to 60seconds.
I didn’t have any problems by now. Must be buged or smt else on your side.

Apolo.5942:

Ranked, it has better track reward than unranked,….

Not true. They both have the same rewards.
And people will yell a LOT more at you if you suck in ranked. Unranked it the best way to get the hang on 5v5 and not x+1 vs x like in hotjoin. If you feel confrident with your build and rotations, change to ranked.

Ohoni.6057:

Join Practice.
If the teams are full (5/5), join another server.
Click either the dice or blue/red if its even.
Cap a point.
Be happy.

Ps: There are extra servers for dailies..

That seems way too complicated. If I click the middle button I can go AFK for a bit and then it just puts me into a match.

Okay. Notice to myself: Don’t feed the troll.

Ohoni.6057:

I tried that, it put me into spectator mode or something and I couldn’t figure out how to capture any points that way.

Well. I hope you are nt the biggest troll i met this year.

Join Practice.
If the teams are full (5/5), join another server.
Click either the dice or blue/red if its even.
Cap a point.
Be happy.

Ps: There are extra servers for dailies..

Ohoni.6057:

The point of pvp is not the dailies… The point is to kill your opponents and help your team reach 500 points before the other team does.

Pssht, who wants to do any of that mess? If that’s all there was to it then I could go back to forgetting that sPvP exists. No, the point of PvP at the moment is to clear the dailies, because currently the PvE options are too limited to conveniently do so. I usually find that I need to drop into PvP for at least one or two of them, but that’s about it. If and when they broaden/expand the daily options I suppose sPvP could go back to being for people who actually have any interest in PvP activities, but we aren’t there yet.

Oh, me for example. You love your Game Mode (pvE)? Well, i love MINE (pvP). Just because you don’t like it, doenst mean anyone else doesn’t.. /facepalm.

The point of pvp might be to YOU to clear your dailies. But its for ppl who don’t want to go to pve/wvw/or enjoy all modes. Ever thought of that?

I made this really great graphic the last time you posted your QQ thread.
I’ll upload it again for you.

Just join a daily-farm server an be gone.
You will be happy, pvp’er will be happy.

And btw, to answer your threadquestion: You can only switch your team in “Practice”. Just go back to spectate and wait till the poor souls get autobalanced so you can grab their place…

We had an update in december(?) which eliminated solo arena. So you can’t solo arena per se, but you can still join solo. Just enter unraked/ranked alone and you will be solo-queuing. The difference is, that it is possible for you now to face premades. No option to avoid it. You can also just queue up with friends. There is no team arena anymore either.

To be hoenst i don’t know why they kept the stats for solo/team q in the panel.

500 – 188
foefore unranked
two thieves one a team and an ele with no clue.
ended 14:03 CET/MEZ+1

500 to 15
ended 8:26 (CET+1/ MEZ)
skyhammer

Nope, living in EU, playing in EU.

Hello everyone,

today i proudly present you the double Q!
What is this astonishing thing you may ask?
Well, it is more than 3 Maps to chose from and more than 10 ppl voting for it!

Joking aside, i am getting double pops. Again. As much as i know its the same 10 ppl who can vote twice and everyone seems to get the 2nd q pop, also. Happened twice in the last few days now. Kind of confusing.

Happened
02.Feb around 10.30
31. Jan around 06:46 (Berlin Time, CET+1/MEZ)
Both unranked.

P.S.: We ended up with skyhammer and courtyard….

uberkingkong.8041:

Meri.7512:

The point you totally dismiss is the winning chance..
If you got a 95% to win a game and land a flawless victory, why should you get +3?
They never had a chance. Just imagine you are playing against 5 newbees. It is not that hard to smash them.
Actually, the only possibility to gain +3 is if YOUR win chance is under 20%.
https://www.guildwars2.com/de/news/finding-the-perfect-match/ < look at this page.

The problem is the amount of players. There are not enough at the same time with the same MMR – so the chances will vary and lead to blowouts. And i dont think blowouts are fun for any side of the team..

Lemme counter you claim,
Both teams ARE solo que’s.

Do you think its good practice for the developers to make matchmaking full of 10 random players and completely 1 side it so one side has 95% chance to win?

Its not like I’m Abjured going against a bunch of solo ques. I can understand a 95% win rate from that, but all 10 solo que’ers and matchmaking makes it so a team has 95% win rate, is that acceptable?

Is that the case in my game? Nope I just consider I had one guy really good at going far and due to his success and my success trebbing we flawlessly won the game, and I should be awarded +3 points from that.

The 95% was an example. Since we, the player, cant look at the winchance, there is no way to find it out. Ask some of the devs for this game, it would be definetely interesting.

And even 5solo vs 5solo doesnt mean they are all equal or that they have their MMR spot on. And thats exactly the problem. Not enough players means the range gets extended and players with lower/higher MMR get picked for a game.

Since we dont get the insight to most of the statistics you can’t lay any claim to points.

If u won against a “better” team, you deserve more points. If it was simply the same you will still get +1.

The point you totally dismiss is the winning chance..
If you got a 95% to win a game and land a flawless victory, why should you get +3?
They never had a chance. Just imagine you are playing against 5 newbees. It is not that hard to smash them.
Actually, the only possibility to gain +3 is if YOUR win chance is under 20%.
https://www.guildwars2.com/de/news/finding-the-perfect-match/ < look at this page.

The problem is the amount of players. There are not enough at the same time with the same MMR – so the chances will vary and lead to blowouts. And i dont think blowouts are fun for any side of the team..

What we all are trying to tell you:

Just press ANOTHER Button. Where you wanna be is the “left” one aka Hotjoin aka PRACTICE. U will get your dailies there.

ARENA means competitive plays. It means: i actually wanna play PLAYER versus PLAYER and not running around like a headless chicken.

You care for a etiquette. Well, you dont respect the etiquette of all pvp-gamers.

I even took a screenshot for you. By just clicking this button instead of another one, everyone else will be happy, including you.

I even made a graphic for you.

And before it starts: There are still bugs..
I q’ed to see the time and left the q. Started to play at the silverwastes and got a q-pop…

Why would anyone click “accept”?
If i am in a match, i wont leave it. And since there is no dishonour now.. Btw the dishonour for leaving a match is worse then q dodge…

I always double check and get a little paranoid bc of this “bug” or whatever you want to call it. Really annoying.

I sent a massage to your friend.

Amir.1570:

Since you’re from EU, where people are mechanically inferior, I would say sadly it’s your problem.

Just… wow.
Actually, if someone is playing bad on EU he might also be bad playing on NA. Why would the server u play on make any difference in your PERSONAL skills?

This NA/EU discussion is so braindead.

Had much better games, too.
I really like these changes.

I don’t know if i am super unlucky but.. arena is the new hotjoin. Doesnt matter if i play ranked or unranked. It’s terrible. No fun games at all. Either my team steamrolles them or my team getting rolled, existing from ppl double capping, zerging, not rotating, not knowing what pvp is at all..

I had decent matches before the update. I prefer any 4vs5 with DECENT players over the hotjoin zerging i am getting now. And besides, i am STILL getting 4vs5 – even before the pre-2-mins are done. Why do I have to start a 4v5? I had fun doing pvp before – not anymore. I might be not the best, but at least i had close matches before. And now .. meh. Sadly that update sucked out the fun for me.

Happened to me too.. Glad i am not the only one… <_<

Since i’m in no guild, i pug exclusively.
And yea, i’m wearing full zerk on any of my characters bc i prefer to finish my runs fast.
Maybe i am very lucky but most of my groups are amazing.

I’m saying hello and bye to ppl and if they start chatting, i jump in. Never had any harrassment or insults in my dungeonruns. There is a german saying which i can’t translate but it is: Wie man in den Wald schreit, so schallt es auch raus.. (What you shout in the forrest comes back around?)

And i don’t think an instance belongs so anyone.. (except if u solo’ed it completely). There were 4 other ppl doing their parts (maybe more or less, but still). If you can see from the beginning that they don’t fit to you and no one seconds the kick, you are free to leave and create another group. Might save some frustration for you AND the ppl you left.

Goliath.7546:

Dishonour should be removed. If there’s someone playing necro/engineer I deserve to rob him of the kill and F12 out. It’s not dishonour if the opposition is using dishonourable techniques.

And people like you are the reason why we need such a system

artemis thuras.2461:

Zaxares.5419:

It really must depend on your playstyle. I’m not sure how I’m doing it exactly, but I seem to gather karma quite effortlessly. My most recent big purchase was unlocking all the T3 Cultural armor skins. That took me down from about 6 million karma to 1 million. That was about a month ago, and I’m already back up to 2 million karma. O.o Where it’s all coming from, I have no idea!

I dont know how you do it either, considering cultural armor is purchased with gold, not karma.

Might be talking about weapons.

I am sitting on over 5 million karma. Well, I just got 1 legendary, but still. Might be I’m playing every gamemode besides wvw (getting those obbies from PvP). Can’t complain about any – dragonite, karma…
But i agree – Karma might be hard to get by by doing just dungeons.

You bought an armorskin with the Flamekissed set, not an outfit.
The difference: with an Outfit u have the full stuff – cant togle Parts on or off (besides the head). With an armorskin u can transmute parts of it p.e. just the chest or boots.

So: Outfit – doesnt cost charges, covers your whole body.
Armoskin: Skin for each part or your armor, costs charges.

Hey there,

i searched it and found 2 other topics, but both quite old and without a resolution.

Queued up for solo queue – and suddenly my queue was gone and while hitting the enter button again i’m getting the error (code=1033:53:5:1314:101) saying i should check my internet connection. Same goes for teamqueue.

Still can’t enter tournaments and i fear some poor souls doing a 4vs5 now because i can’t join. Sad.

Hey folks,

doing triple trouble, hacking an slacking all heads. Well, all 3 heads are cut. Next phase – all heads get burned down, nearly finished but then – BOOM – all players loading in a new map.
Since we were in TS and had that whole thing organized it was really annoying. The new map had the same time left but no heads were cut. So, we failed the event although we were nearly done. Got kicked from our map because it seems it crashed.

Did that happen to anyone else?
Was on /ip 206.127.159.235:0 – 23.09.2014 at ~19.30 GMT +2

Very sad :[

Because of their ingredients – wool is quite expensive.

Happened to my team yesterday, too.
Annoying since it was the 3rd frac.

The hammerguy fell at the middle – so we wiped, saw the hammer for a sec and – poof – gone and nowhere to be found.

Please no.

I have a hard time already seeing skillanimations. And i sometimes even get migraine from that falshing stuff. For example the Scarlet-Holo-fight and that kitten sigill of fire.. gosh. My eyes bled out.

And on the other side it would drive the price for precurser (which legendaries also would be in that case) even higher. Imagine some new player – they will never catch up with inflatation.

The only solution to have something “fair” would be to have just accoundbound stuff. So u can actually show that u DID smt for it. Not just having good luck or a good amount of money.

Give us some new Legendaries – so the old and new gamers have something to gather.
But dont use the existing ones for any more fancy stuff.