Guild Wars 2

Valneer.3854:

I’ve played WvW pretty frequently and I swear I’ve never seen this HB commander people are constantly referring too.

Maybe because he stopped playing the day after BG won, and if you were here before that, many times he would run without commander tag because he liked the 15-20 man groups that would reap havoc on zergballs and usually Waypoint port every few minutes. If you weren’t in his TS channel you wouldn’t know he and HB even existed other than where they were, things were being flipped, rapidly and efficiently. It was a style that many of us enjoyed and actually put in extra hours to be a part of because it was constant pressure and amazing battles. As went Smokee, went BG, and when he left, trying to find these type of battles and strategy are not easy to find. Heres a video of what is was like runnin with HB , has his tag on a few times and is the one on TS. The Hammer warrior you see is also a great commander and fun to run with.

Sleepyy.1598:

I love seeing Blackgate cry they’re the underdog and that SoR is stacked now (LOL).
BG already used to beat SoR very comfortably even before BG absorbed 70% (around 10 guilds) of SoS’s wvw population. SoR gained OCX, TSYM and AFS to come.
You want to know the difference? SoR is a real community that has been built over time. SoR got the REAL SoS guilds and not a group of glory hunters who can’t stand losing for 2 weeks.

BG got one guild where it needed it MERC, how is this 70% of SoS? I guess you could say Agg could have helped in letting HB try to get some sleep during NA Prime but they didn’t like the zergball infestation style of T1 and left. No one from BG is crying, they are saying they lost an overly aggressive commander that dictated/allowed for BGs play style and when they left, the fun left with them. HB didn’t effect 1 map, they had an effect on all 4 allowing other commanders to loosen up and play with a more aggressive style which made BG a fun server to play on.

Now when a good commander is on 60 jump on their icon and BG becomes a zergball like the others and this was never fun…….ever

Jackums.3496:

I feel guilds like MERC and KnT have been carrying BG, lately. It just seems like people outside of dedicated guilds aren’t even trying. I’ll log on to the outmanned buff half of the time these days, and generally when guilds like MERC and KnT aren’t present, people will just leave the map or stand around at the spawn.

It’s clear that we have inferior numbers to JQ and SoR right now. This isn’t an excuse, because hey, maybe we do have the numbers and it’s just not apparent because people aren’t logging in and staying to put in the effort, but it is the simple fact of the situation. For whatever reason, our coverage right now is clearly less.

I don’t care, to be honest. Not having a zerg to run with all the time doesn’t really affect me because I’m a solo/small group roamer, but MagiKarp is right.

This

Vodka.3958:

Valneer.3854:

If it weren’t for the fact that I’ve got a lot of friends in BG, I would’ve transferred off a LONG time ago.
We’ve got to have some of the worst commanders out there.

Hahah well if you think you can do better then give it a go! Lately we’ve been having some unfamiliar names trying Commanding out for their first time. It’s great to see our fellow beastgater’s doing their part to help out the server & I highly encourage more people in Blackgate to give Commanding a try, it may actually turnout to be your strong-suit.

Theres no lately about it, it’s no secret the glue that held BG together was Smokee and HB, and yes it only takes one strong force to mask the inferiority of the others.

If Smokee and the other HB that left, came back, you would see BGs ppt climb at a dramatic rate as it always did in the past. I’m not sure if Patzero and Thai still play or not but they were another essential key to BGs success and I have logged on multiple mornings to try and find them to no avail, just commanders running 35 people around taking camps and running at the first signs of an arrow cart.

Even when Smokee was here and we were in T2 there were multiple guilds that would lose BGs entire BL down to breakout events and these commanders are still commanding and clogging Qs for others that actually fight and not run in circles scared blaming pugs on TS for their failures.

Don’t get me wrong BG still has some great commanders that gain PPT but the poster you responded to sees the same thing a lot of us do to the point of not even logging in anymore because the aggressive decent ones are so hard to find.

hex.3218:

I like BG and don’t want to see them drop a tier.

As far as SoR not attacking us. Laughable. Transfer over for a week and you’ll see. They attack us very very hard, usually on the west of BL and North through to WC and Rouges on EB. This whole ‘lapdog’ thing is a joke. If anything BG is our ‘lapdog’ (which is totally laughable as well, but less so than SoR) because they always hit SoR hard.

If BG ignored SoR and only hit us, SoR would be in third place.

Lapdog arguements are easy to make but completely false.

Who wants to fight for second? According to your logic which is sound, just the wrong server, and SoR only attacked JQ and BG only attacked JQ then JQ would be in 3rd and we all would be in a fight for 1st. SoR plays it just like JQ played in Jan. when BG went to T1, They sat in their defenses, poked/ probed at BG and waited for the Oceanic/Sea times and took all of BGs goodies but still not touching SoS for days on end. Maps split perfectly down the middle all week long

Darkjoy.3092:

Israel.7056:

Honestly I feel like Smokee leaving has been a way bigger deal than Agg or FoE leaving no disrespect to either guild but HB carried BG imo. Hardly see them anymore.

This . Smokee’s absence has been far more noticeable . But im not a SEA player

This without a doubt, not only Smokee, but several other prominent HB as well. They balanced the guilds that run scared and always seemed to lose our entire BGBL ( even to Kain and TC, yikes) with scatter brained commanding while blaming it on pugs in TS.
So many occasions I witnessed HB completely flip a map with 20 people and tactics against superior numbers, one night I remember 18 of us blew through 30+WarMachine and 20 or so pugs during the T2 matchup. They (WM zerglings) left the map after several successful headhuntings via superb scouting. This was a daily occurrence whenever HB was on.
Orcommanderx (HB) is another no fear commander that could run to a map with confused commanders, grab up 10 pugs and flip 1/3 the map in no time.

I was on a couple days ago and there was a commander running around with 50 people flipping camps in a large circular motion around the map trying to tag a tower until a couple arrow carts lit up and then scurry off to the next camp, I see this frequently and mix this with the other servers love for Mega Zerg / lapdog map lagging defenses and it really just makes WvW boring.

Gone are the days of HB having an effect on all 4 maps, my guess is 1/3 the BG PPT left with Smokee and the others from HB

wish.3102:

Miiaah.5416:

wish.3102:

It looks like all the real guilds from SOS are moving to SOR, I can’t wait to watch them beat BG down and send them back to T2, and all the bandwagon SOS guilds to another server. It’s already started with FOE and AGG being to afraid of Tsym and the rest and jumping ship. Who is going to be next!?!

Well the real question here is can they thump JQ the way BG did in a short time with much less coverage.

BG would probably be happy to go back to T2 actually, I doubt TC and Kain use box event exploits and neither are each others lapdogs for weeks on end. T1 has become a big skill lag filled zergosity, I would think BG still likes smaller 10 – 20 man fights map wide, at least they used to. BG also lost it’s top commander to real life and the amount of quality fights have diminished greatly. T2 would be a welcome change, BG accomplished what it came for

I find it funny youre complaining about SOR ‘exploiting’ and also saying you won. Siege capping your competition isn’t exploiting? Lets face it, we all know thats the only reason BG won. You can talk big all you want, but most of JQ simply didnt play those last days because of it, while BG pulled ridiculous long shifts just to win by what…. 10k? It must suck to have that overshadow your ‘victory’. Winning by exploiting isnt really winning IMO. I also find it hilarious you talk about BG not grouping it’s entire zones population on 1 tag, when thats the exact opposite of what I always see.

I wasn’t complaining about anything. I didn’t exploit anything, I don’t know anyone who exploited anything, I doubt the siege capping was even a BG player

My guess is it’s someone from SoS or possibly your own server that’s not happy about sitting in Q for 2 months now. Maybe it’s an Anet employee bringing the Karma after seeing the numbers imbalance and Zergtastic tactics that create skill lag and make them look like they can’t code a game properly or rent decent server farms.

There is no asterisk to those who matter, just forum whiners that make their server look like they were beat by 1 person. There are a lot of JQ that know the deal, BG didn’t even show up in that match until Wednesday anyway and unless the guy/girl was siege capping JQBL and SoRBL where I was fighting and saw no ram trains then it makes it even more of a non factor.

Nothing overshadows BGs victory, the people that won/lost that match know the real story “And when Alexander saw the breadth of his domain, he wept, for there were no more worlds to conquer.” Hans Gruber – DieHard 1988

And then BG players left, and stopped logging into the 7 guild zergball mess that is T1

Zen.8497:

SmokeyNYY.7841:

Churchill.8714:

Aurust.8961:

uberkingkong.8041:

We’ve taken BG keep everyday on EB, nothing special about it anymore.
Another thing, SoR needs to goto Tier 2, this JQ SoR alliance and JQ always winning isn’t really fun anymore, I like to actually feel like I’m making a difference and not, oops JQ wins again because we tag team BG.

Im getting too used to 2v1 posts… i just dont get the same lulz anymore from them. Can someone please come up with something that will give me more lulz.

That post is from an SoR player so…lol.

Hes actually from JQ, but seems like hes trying to sound like hes from SoR. You can obtain this information by looking at his post history and the screen shot he posted a day ago.

The appearances can be deceiving, he obviously talks on behalf of BG.

Actually he speaks on behalf of reality, which is even more lulz.

wish.3102:

It looks like all the real guilds from SOS are moving to SOR, I can’t wait to watch them beat BG down and send them back to T2, and all the bandwagon SOS guilds to another server. It’s already started with FOE and AGG being to afraid of Tsym and the rest and jumping ship. Who is going to be next!?!

Well the real question here is can they thump JQ the way BG did in a short time with much less coverage.

BG would probably be happy to go back to T2 actually, I doubt TC and Kain use box event exploits and neither are each others lapdogs for weeks on end. T1 has become a big skill lag filled zergosity, I would think BG still likes smaller 10 – 20 man fights map wide, at least they used to. BG also lost it’s top commander to real life and the amount of quality fights have diminished greatly. T2 would be a welcome change, BG accomplished what it came for

Fixeon.5076:

Geko read the top line in the chat frame. They are clearly talking about something in the adventure box.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/support/bugs/Line-of-Sight-Bug

not surprising in the least

Early AM Easter bay defense.

Happy Easter Everybody

Kiltor.9362:

so you tried to ninja a keep and didnt think a force would come? k….

If you’re talking to me, I have never seen the point of 40 showing up to stop 8. I think it’s fun watching cluster balls rolling around the map, someday a server is going to wise up and split into multiple 10-15 mans and destroy the zergball maps. BG used to do this frequently but……..

GekoHayate.2451:

Ascii.9726:

There is absolutely no evidence that 2v1ing exists in this game.

We over on SoR strive to promote healthy competitive game-play and we do not have commanders who get mad and seek revenge when he is escorting a yak and an enemy zerg kills it just before its entered the tower.

Can’t comment on the video as it seems to be private.

However I think you (and most posters) are confusing 2v1 with organized 2v1. 2v1 happens, I’ve seen it happen a lot to BG, groups I’ve ran with have picked there targets based on the movements of the other servers (creating a 2v1). There is plenty of evidence for this, and it is part of the 1v1v1 dynamic.

2v1 happens.

Organized 2v1, meaning 2 servers communicating to target the third server is what every one seems to think when they see 2v1. This is not a natural part of the 1v1v1 dynamic.

While I have heard anecdotal evidence of a SOR commander contacting ICoa to create a temporary organized 2v1 in the past, I have personally never actually experienced it first hand. I doubt there is any evidence of this happening beyond word of mouth.

Stop confusing the two.

No words have to be spoken for organized 2v1, it’s really not hard to focus one server except for the occasional camp or spawn tower. I would think it would be terribly boring to be either in the “2” group.

Pretty uneventful morning

How many does it take to screw in a lightbulb

Congratulations on your win SoR, well played!

Robot Chocken.7012:

Vodka.3958:

Ponder.3647:

Robot Chocken.7012:

Dredrum.2563:

JQ had 60+ SoR had 60+ BG ddin’t even have 40 ya perfect sense attack blue that at that time was 40ppt. Then you look at the map JQ was Green, SoR was Red, EBG was all Green/Red perfect sense for 160 players to go after 1 blue keep? Doesn’t matter, but to the players that come here and are saying there isn’t coop going really are amazing me.

JQ these days dominates the #1 position in Tier 1 “last week excluded of course”. Not only did BG beat us last week, many ppl from BG disrespected our server more than normal on the forums and by guesting to our server to troll. JQ as a server has never really been that way to others. We are making sure BG are paid back for the disrespect in these cases. Though it was only a select several that were this way. Their actions represent their server and their server will pay the price for it.

This. I think BG has a bit of a poor reputation because of incidents in the past, and maybe even current behavior. It’s unfortunate that your server’s community as a whole is affected. So when you guys get a little bit of dirt on your face, it makes razzing you all that much sweeter.

Ohkay, so you’re saying people that are supposedly from Blackgate are guesting into JQ and talking down on your server; but how do you know they are from Blackgate? Are they telling you they are from Blackgate to get your feelings hurt and make you want to attack us? Have you ever thought that maybe these particular people are from SoR or another server and just like to talk kitten on JQ?

Before you say something bad about the entire Blackgate population, please think about it first before you come to a conclusion generalizing an entire server as being disrespectful. We’ve had this is happen to us in LA almost on a weekly basis as well but we aren’t posting it on the forums or letting it get to us since we spend a majority of our time in WvW & not in LA.

&lol Blackgate is far from having a poor reputation. The only people that I can imagine would view Blackgate as having a poor reputation would be the ones that we have won against in previous matches and can’t stand losing to our server; particularly SoR (since we have a 13-0 record against them & I’m not at all saying this won’t change anytime soon since you guys are really close) and Jade Quarry because we recently broke their winning streak. So yeah, I can definitely see why there would be some resentment from these two servers. It’s showing a lot this week that JQ doesn’t take losing lightly :P

Also, Blackgate has a fantastic reputation and an amazing community which is why we are so attractive to guilds that are thinking about transferring out of their server and into ours. Ya’ll can even ask the servers that we fought in the past about what they think of Blackgate; like Fort Aspenwood or even Kaineng & Tarnished Coast. We kept a thread alive for like 3 weeks with two of those servers and you can even see in our recruitment threads that they are recommending for guilds to come to Blackgate because of how respectful our community is.

To finish this off, I hope everyone understands that Blackgate does not have any hard feelings towards JQ or SoR. We don’t go out into WvW everyday with a mentality of “all we want to do is take down JQ.” Rather, we just focus on taking keeps or towers regardless of who owns it and turning the entire map blue & having some fun battles. I am looking forward to seeing you all on the battlefield, good luck! :’)

I think you may have this twisted. As for your wvw community many of your power guilds have not been there very long hence the community you speak of is not long standing. As I said it was the act of several and the entire server paid for it. Read closer. It may have saved you from typing this novel of a reply.

Obviously you’re delusional in acting like BG and JQ are any different in who has a “long standing community” in the " Power guilds". Are you talking about you got the Free transfer mega bandwagon 3 weeks before Agg and later Merc paid to transfer to Blackgate because certainly you can’t be talking about the ones that beat you like HB, KnT, Urge, Thai, EA, LotD, RIOT, ICoa…..etc and the hundreds of Pugs/smaller guilds that have helped for months?

Bakitten291:

Miiaah.5416:

Bakitten291:

Nuked.2360:

Heavens Brethren.6471:

Congrats JQ for maintaining first place by being the lead server in a two server team. I solute you for your individual servers skill in Wv3. Good job manning up to your loss last week by showing such excellent strategy! =) Go “Jade Rall.” Cheer

You seem a little mad you do realize that SoR hit us just as much as you guys. Thing is our stuff wasn’t paper when they hit it. We capitalized on your guys dead periods and you guys struggled to do so this is the result.

So Sor is in the water only attacking our people… JQ is on the hill, only attacking our people… yep sure your point is totally proven. Btw, this is directly outside our spawn.

The way to think about this is complimentary to BG, it takes both just like BGs last stint in T1 before the JQ transfers, JQ avoided SoS like the plague, SoR is a carbon copy of that time, all to happy to come in a distant second. Sure they skirmish here and there but the reality is obvious and it only amplifies when BG takes the week off up to the patch. It gives the “attack the weak link” talk some merit even if it keeps a server that plays only for the fights in a distant second it shows who they consider " the good fight"

What I have noticed this week on BG is the lack of Smokee (other HB) which seems to effect map colors a lot more than double teams and servers losing their use of culling as their main strategy. I’m sure most will say one person doesn’t effect a server that much but I have to disagree, BG lost a huge amount of PPT with the departure of Smokee and his attitude of WvW, the most memorable no fear fights I was in were running in that small 20 man group which accomplished 10 times what the mega zerg ever did.

There are honestly alot of commanders that I used to recognize during morning hours that I just havent seen this week. Not sure if people are taking breaks but I do hope they come back

Well I think a lot were wanting to leave the game long before now but stuck around to see if BG could actually pull off the T1 win. I think the win allowed some to finally say “been there done that, moving on” I don’t have a clue about Smokee (and other HB) and his real life situation but he pulled some seriously crazy hours in BG first week back to T1, I know I did as well and it was exhausting to the point of stupid but thankfully my job is more a hobby and I’m married to another GW2 player that we have went through the MMO gambit for over a decade, long/late Raid nights and Arena and rated PvP allows for a week of silliness here and there. Warhammer and DoaC allowed for more casual play which is what I thought GW2 would be as well. Something about T1 changes this but I know I played very little week 2 and came back on Wed of last week and every 1K closer to JQ we got added another hour until it was apparent late Thursday night it was done.

The one commander I wonder about that I haven’t seen in months is Legendary Thor, they were about as fun as running with Smokee when it was smaller groups and I was leveling a mesmer

Bakitten291:

Nuked.2360:

Heavens Brethren.6471:

Congrats JQ for maintaining first place by being the lead server in a two server team. I solute you for your individual servers skill in Wv3. Good job manning up to your loss last week by showing such excellent strategy! =) Go “Jade Rall.” Cheer

You seem a little mad you do realize that SoR hit us just as much as you guys. Thing is our stuff wasn’t paper when they hit it. We capitalized on your guys dead periods and you guys struggled to do so this is the result.

So Sor is in the water only attacking our people… JQ is on the hill, only attacking our people… yep sure your point is totally proven. Btw, this is directly outside our spawn.

The way to think about this is complimentary to BG, it takes both just like BGs last stint in T1 before the JQ transfers, JQ avoided SoS like the plague, SoR is a carbon copy of that time, all to happy to come in a distant second. Sure they skirmish here and there but the reality is obvious and it only amplifies when BG takes the week off up to the patch. It gives the “attack the weak link” talk some merit even if it keeps a server that plays only for the fights in a distant second it shows who they consider " the good fight"

What I have noticed this week on BG is the lack of Smokee (other HB) which seems to effect map colors a lot more than double teams and servers losing their use of culling as their main strategy. I’m sure most will say one person doesn’t effect a server that much but I have to disagree, BG lost a huge amount of PPT with the departure of Smokee and his attitude of WvW, the most memorable no fear fights I was in were running in that small 20 man group which accomplished 10 times what the mega zerg ever did.

Stovokor.9368:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4fTxRMeBuM

No Culling – T1 Megafights

Showcasing large scale battles as everyone eagerly tried to converge on first day of post culling patch. Scenes in this video were chosen to capture depth of field ( friend and foe ) as well as entertaining battle sequences.

Nice video! I like they way it showcases the different styles the servers operate at. SoR /JQ and its mega zerg mentality and BG in much smaller groups. While video from your front line Guardian is very exciting you should have some rear echelon players capture some so we can see the Zerge vs Zerg fight from a more epic perspective. That mini map with the green blob was insane.

Well this is fun and new! I call it the SoR has no Oceanic/Sea coverage error. Strangely I had zero issues fighting larger fights on other maps, must be SM Glob-o-name-tags error.

By the way for people that have troubles uploading videos to Youtube, try something called Handbrake, it’s a go between encoder that seems to take video and convert it for a better 1080P upload to youtube

And the smooth new sounds listening to the calming, more mellow HB 102.3 FM

Diehard.1432:

And SoR said they only field 25 players max…rofl

They had 60+ on their BL in EU time, it’s really nice seeing the numbers game, no one can mess with those JQ infrared screens though

Zen.8497:

Miiaah.5416:

Synyster.5894:

What to do hmmm..

Kill em all……..exactly like we did

I learned long ago two things, first people that talk big usually don’t deliver
and secondly wishful thinking is one thing, and reality another…

And what I learned is the video is rendering as we speak, I even enlarged that screenshot just for you.

To be fair, most ran anyway now that culling isn’t a tactic

Synyster.5894:

What to do hmmm..

Kill em all……..exactly like we did

The Culling fix is amazing even set to high everything runs so smooth, too bad Youtube cant upload videos as well, heres this mornings fiasco before patch, not sure what Youtube does to video even in 1080P it mucks up the contrast so bad if you turn up the brightness even 10%

Qiko.2461:

DBR.9876:

Umm.. Wow! That culling fix is amazing!

Whoa! What are your settings, and PC config DBR?

Thanks!

I know I’m running on High graphics minus shadows, Medium WvW and everything is great!

DBR.9876:

Umm.. Wow! That culling fix is amazing!

Thats a small JQ group, wait until Foo and the Oceanics/Sea show up with their * 40. *
The culling fix is sweet other than the titles but it sure was nice watching 60 SoR run back to their Garrison from Cliffs even though they don’t have coverage in EU

hex.3218:

Sardonia.8196:

hex.3218:

I don’t know what all the complaining is about. Did BG win last week? Rejoice children! The long cold night of the JQ is OVER! Now that JQ has been beaten, they will implode. Just like HoD, ET, SoS and the other server with the guy that did ventriliquism on the island. The plane boss, the plane!

But seriously, kids, this week is not exactly a fair fight. BG spotted us a big lead resting up for the patch and the week that follows the patch. This week is almost a throw away. Patch mid week, come on. One set of rules half the week, another set of rules the second half.

Look on the very bright side of things. Dedicated players will not be worth MORE than zerglings. Servers like SoR will have a better chance to compete. BG and JQ have a lot of half-in half-out WvW players who won’t spend a lot of time getting ranked up. Smart servers will be able to create specialists for different situations, or even heroes of great reknown that can strike fear in the hearts of other players with their shiny tag alone!

When does the patch go live?

JQ last week pretty much did not care after Wednesday or so. I think they just got fed up with the exploits and seige capping and did not really play has hard as they are now. At least that is how I feel. Plus BG were playing some crazy long hours which cannot be sustained week in week out. JQ came out this week to prove a point and it has shown.

My point was that people make a big deal out of things that aren’t really that important. Heck, SoR could steal a week depending on what BG and JQ field for any given 7 day period.

Getting upset over coverage differences on a week where clearly BG is resting from their hard earned victory is silly. BG can put up a good fight when fully rested and ready to go. Last week proves it.

BG won. The only real reason they did is because they fought for it. Everything else is excuses.

That being said, if JQ wins this week, it’s because they fought for it. Everything else (coverage included) is excuses.

Wow, a reasonable post [screenshot]

A little Sea BGBL Garrison funzies, trying the youtube enhancements since I forgot to lighten the video in 720P. I’ll remember before upload someday

Churchill.8714:

I don’t know why Waha was so angry, all FoO uses is golems anyway.

Or was it last Friday on JQ BL that made him angry, I can understand that.

My guess is it’s more about coming in second. Coming from the Ele at 5:10 in the video that pops the Fiery Greatsword , and then the video cuts I think I would probably start blocking your mini map in you videos so people don’t see it takes 3 commanders and a giant green blob rolling over 1/3 the numbers of 1 guild [ND] and a couple pugs

My guess is it has little to do with the supposed spy and more about Friday morning when 10-15 Merc and a couple pugs (like me) did this (Pic below)and crushed their 8 Golem attempts on their own Garrison which is what really caused their loss

Veritas.4792:

Miiaah.5416:

SoPP.7034:

CuddleStrike.8215:

Score update from the LOVE asuras!

And a farewell to my asura friend…. Veritas….. cries

:(

Where is he going?

So is HB done then, or temporary? Smokee and Veritas………is Orc and Graphic staying?

Nope! HB is not done, every guild has their own back-up commanders

SoPP.7034:

CuddleStrike.8215:

Score update from the LOVE asuras!

And a farewell to my asura friend…. Veritas….. cries

:(

Where is he going?

Air Force

Good deal! I thought the really fun fights might be done, are you guys sticking to EU or are you gathering a decent NA prime group, whos mainly taking Smokees spot?

SoPP.7034:

CuddleStrike.8215:

Score update from the LOVE asuras!

And a farewell to my asura friend…. Veritas….. cries

:(

Where is he going?

So is HB done then, or temporary? Smokee and Veritas………is Orc and Graphic staying?

Lance.5892:

MERC was sleeping.

Most of us pulled some crazy 20+ hours online

There were a few die hards I found, it was so laggy yesterday, I had low res models in groups of 10-15. Anyway here was a lil Merc/Pug I roamed into

Reslinal.2359:

I think most of BG are taking a break right now. I am sure we will be back later in the week though:)

Kind of like last week

Harrek.8720:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYtOUHCO0dc

Nice! Those were some long battles, almost like Garrison battles in the open field

Well I was playing around with a couple video capture apps for my new iMac and they turned out being 9 gig for 3 minutes, after compressing them down to 500mb they still looked great on my Mac but when I upload to Youtube they look dark and not so great even on 720P ( which I uploaded at 1080P but……) Anyone have any tips for how big a file needs to be and why its darker when you upload to Youtube?

Running with MERC this morning in JQs Garrison and JQBL, I was messing around with settings and such on the capture stuff so If I get caught standing around I apologize. More fighting, less tweaking! Was a really fun morning of fighting!

Nibi.3572:

I have more :|

This is getting ridiculous

The way to solve it is one of the GvG guilds should be able to communicate to a BG or SoR server somehow and I’m sure either would be able to bring a golem or two, get to inner and destroy all the siege real fast and leave without killing the lord. I’m pretty sure it wouldn’t be a problem to then leave the keep alone for a couple hours. Not sure what else could be done other than that. Maybe even leave a BG and or a SoR inside the keep to continuously kill the perp. I’m sure there would be more than one willing thief to gank some flame Ramican

So one person destroyed the morale of an entire server and beat them……….wowsers, I wonder what their glicko rating is this week. Arenanet should build a tribute page for this player who single handedly won WvW

Sardonia.8196:

Any score update for those stuck having to work all day

Here you go, trampled underfoot

Cirus.5748:

waha.4921:

challenged when they run 90 people around capping objectives with 20-30 people max defending.

20-30 ?

http://youtu.be/zTl4EdWWixQ

how many em in this video?

and FOO have 30-40 ppl not 90+

Waha

Awesome stuff!

Respect to FOO, you guys are awesome.

Out of curiosity , do you have any footage from last night?

Agree, good stuff! That 1 button gets a solid workout! Hopefully you guys captured this little scuffle a few minutes ago as well! As well as Bluevale this morning in JQBL, I agree the FOO/JQ Oceanic/Sea fights are the most exciting in T1

Korbaal.6402:

Fantastic job turning things around this week BG. Hope you guys are finally realising your potential. After so long being a T1.5 server you can finally say T1 is where you belong.

Ahhhh so sweet, thank you!!! We can finally sit at the grownups table? Realizing our potential to get a little help in Oceanic/Sea was a grueling task, hopefully another server with large Oceanic/Sea coverage can get here and FINALLY say they have the numbers …….errrr the potential to be a T1 server too!

Irony.5203:

sostronk.8167:

Irony.5203:

Zen.8497:

Miiaah.5416

“I really don’t have culling issues with my new iMac, even on high settings large fights are much better but then again I like staying in smaller groups like 15-20 on our side”

It is common knowledge that culling issues are on the server side and not on the client side. It is already announced to be fixed in the new patch.
I always go by if you tell the truth you don’t have to remember anything.

Culling is a combination of Server side and Client side issues. For the most part, the windows and mac clients should operate nearly the same in terms of fetching data from the server, however it may render it slightly different.

The difference is probably no more than 5%, if even that.

5% of what?

Well only a certain number of players are rendered on your screen at a time, no matter how many are fetched form the server. Due to the differences in the rendering engine between mac and pc the difference could potentially be +-5% in terms of the number of players that will be rendered at a time.

And the number is at least 60 since one of their fixes is to limit DOWN to 25-30, also the client side is important at least according to Arenanet, people with 3.4GHz quad-core Intel Core i7 (Turbo Boost up to 3.9GHz) with 8MB L3 cache, 16 gig ram, 680MX graphics processor with 2GB of GDDR5 memory and a Mac Fusion drive are going to have no rendering issues compared to someone playing on a laptop or even 1 year old computer. My Gaming PC was better than my 2010 iMac, but not by much and my 2013 iMac with specs listed above destroys my Gaming PC on GW2 wvwvw performance. I have yet to see ability lag or even low res modeling on the 38 SoR that busted into Garrison while fighting the 20 JQ behind us with our group running circles around the Lords room. Everyone rendered fine.

This all started when Zen replied to this

*Miiaah.5416

“Other than the 60 SoR in SoR garrison that took it………and then lost it 15 minutes later.”
Virtsuoso.9761
“More like which side can abuse culling, but hopefully this will change come the patch. Save the chest trumping for the when the patch comes out imo.”

Zen
I wonder how can it be any culling problems while you see and count 60 enemy players. Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake.*

I run a Mac Beta client and have no troubles seeing or counting 60 and FOO should provide me the chance to get a screenshot in the a.m

I counted 38 run through the wall before I started to get slammed and had to move in this screen shot, when I said 60 earlier it was the same LUN group except it had CHoo with them, they entered from cliffs and ran up the closest wall and took Garrison with ease, 15 minutes later we took it back and held for well over an hour against both servers, Im sure there was no more than 25 in there at anytime according to some

gnarkiller.1862:

Miiaah.5416:

Zen.8497:

Miiaah.5416

“I really don’t have culling issues with my new iMac, even on high settings large fights are much better but then again I like staying in smaller groups like 15-20 on our side”

It is common knowledge that culling issues are on the server side and not on the client side. It is already announced to be fixed in the new patch.
I always go by if you tell the truth you don’t have to remember anything.

I run Mac Beta with a brand new $2600. iMac, you want me to screen shot a 60 man SoR zerg from an inner wall of them on an outer wall? Culling only effects open field battles and when the two groups collide for me now

Yes please provide screenshots.

I will, but was busy defending SoR garrison against SoR and JQ with no culling whatsoever. Next 60 man will be screened as soon as they show up

Zen.8497:

Miiaah.5416

“I really don’t have culling issues with my new iMac, even on high settings large fights are much better but then again I like staying in smaller groups like 15-20 on our side”

It is common knowledge that culling issues are on the server side and not on the client side. It is already announced to be fixed in the new patch.
I always go by if you tell the truth you don’t have to remember anything.

I run Mac Beta with a brand new $2600. iMac, you want me to screen shot a 60 man SoR zerg from an inner wall of them on an outer wall? Culling only effects open field battles and when the two groups collide for me now

Zen.8497:

Miiaah.5416

“Other than the 60 SoR in SoR garrison that took it………and then lost it 15 minutes later.”

Virtsuoso.9761
“More like which side can abuse culling, but hopefully this will change come the patch. Save the chest trumping for the when the patch comes out imo.”

I wonder how can it be any culling problems while you see and count 60 enemy players. Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake.

I really don’t have culling issues with my new iMac, even on high settings large fights are much better but then again I like staying in smaller groups like 15-20 on our side

I know theres no SoR on, someone needs to tell these guys

Sticks.9374:

Miiaah.5416:

Zen.8497:

Miiaah.5416
“as we were entering the commander says something about SoR having a stronger NA”. That right there is the truth, simple and concise.

Some people want the truth so badly but after it has been presented to them they deem it unacceptable. In the end, they create their own version of the truth which is more acceptable to their perception. They deny the truth, worship the opposite…

Like SoR Garrison twice now, when does primetime start?

No one in SoR is obviously on. this is obvious to everyone. just get over it already.

It’s the same as people picking on BG all week when you clearly had a numbers gap. Every server thinks they are the best, otherwise they would be on a different server.

Myself I think we are all great but then again I’m an optimist.

Other than the 60 SoR in SoR garrison that took it………and then lost it 15 minutes later

Zen.8497:

Miiaah.5416
“as we were entering the commander says something about SoR having a stronger NA”. That right there is the truth, simple and concise.

Some people want the truth so badly but after it has been presented to them they deem it unacceptable. In the end, they create their own version of the truth which is more acceptable to their perception. They deny the truth, worship the opposite…

Like SoR Garrison twice now, when does primetime start?

Zen.8497:

Miiaah.5416

Zen.8497:
I think all this nonsense from some BG and JQ players simply stems from the fact that a third place server it is simply better at combat. All 3 servers know that and there are enough players on both servers to even admit it. Talking about been defeated by zergs and such while bad culling in place it is just a poor excuse for actually getting wiped.
There should be no hard feelings. You have better coverage and ppt around the clock which secures you the first 2 places.

“This is absolutely hilarious, but if it makes you feel better.”

Truth is such a rare thing, it is delightful to tell it.

And if you say it enough, I think you’re right, people actually start believing it. I finally had a chance to run Primetime last night for the first time this week and was running with a newer commander to BG along with some pugs and about 10 from his guild equalling about 15-20 and over teamspeak the “30 SoR in SW Camp” came in so we proceeded to head there from Bay in JQBL and as we were entering the commander says something about SoR having a stronger NA so it might not fair well with half the numbers. Well we wiped them, and they came back for more and after their third attempt we never saw them again for the next hour I stayed on. This has been my experience in NA Prime including the 2 months against them in T2.

BG continued to pressure JQ Garrison with 2 separate 10-20 mans while SoR attempted pressuring our camp with 20-30, I didn’t see the better combat part, maybe tonight.

Zen.8497:

I think all this nonsense from some BG and JQ players simply stems from the fact that a third place server it is simply better at combat. All 3 servers know that and there are enough players on both servers to even admit it. Talking about been defeated by zergs and such while bad culling in place it is just a poor excuse for actually getting wiped.
There should be no hard feelings. You have better coverage and ppt around the clock which secures you the first 2 places.

This is absolutely hilarious, but if it makes you feel better.