Guild Wars 2

BASELINE IT IS BASELINE IS THIS REALLIFE

Oh my, Might applying……through shattering….wait what…

So, appartenly, getting DE means just giving up 2 other GM skills, and not an entire bloody trait line…….

And yes, I hope that the Mesmer will get a new MH weapon set if equipped with the shield. As this would, first of all, be awesome. Second of all, would not influence the way Thiefs 3 skill change according to MH/OH combo, as the Mesmer will only have this with 1 weapon combo. And third of all, would really make the specialization something that really makes an impression, because else the specialization would merely be Chronomancer = Shield + extras, rather than a full role, as for instance a Ranger Druid would be, with 5 new weapon skills + the extra’s that come with it.

Fine, you think something. But rather than choosing to speculate with us or to hold the option to just wait and see what ANet has in store for the Mesmer, you decide to just go on this forum and give counterarguments to everything.

I get that we know nothing, I really do. I was merely trying to speculate/hope for something better in the future of the Mesmer. According to me, this ^ would be an option. Okay, you don’t agree. But there is no reason to be a kitten about it.

I also get that we are getting screwed if we merely get 2 offhand skills. ANet promised a compensation. The fact that you do not agree with the fact that this would entail three main hand weapon skills, okay, I can see that. But seriously guy/girl, why the constant negativity?

And I’m intensely curious how you interpret speculative. On top of that, this quote was pulled off of reddit, fair enough. And has as little basis as anything posted on this forum in relation to HoT. This is why this is speculative. I am sorry for holding on to the belief that we will be compensated equally by Anet for getting an offhand. I am so terribly sorry.

Hiya Fay, first of all, we already know these things as they are on the GW2 page and as I said in my text, I’m merely considering this, I am well aware that this is speculation. Why on earth is this more wrong than any other post I have seen you post on, which considered more far-fetched ideas in regard to specializations and shield.

Now, your arguments against mine:

#This is not false. Every class will get 5 new skills on top of the new elite/healing/utility. “Jon Peters teased that classes getting an offhand would get something “just as good” as the extra three skills"
The classes that receive an offhand will receive 3 new skills to compensate for the fact that it is an offhand. This has been confirmed by GW2 themselves. So, through that, every class will get 5 skills for their new weapon. Correct? I am merely speculating what it could be.

#Why do you have a problem with the terminology of “locked in”. Combat locks you in, correct? As does a certain build? I am well aware one can change outside of combat, I am merely speculating that going for a specialization, as the name itself states, makes you an expert in one thing, but locks (yeah?) you out of something else.

#Okay, you got me there. Classes will get extra new utilities besides their specialization, rather than with. Woo kittening hoo.

#I am trying to say that, or hoping, that the utilities that every class already receives are good enough and Mesmers and Warriors will not be stuck with additional utilities just to make up for the fact we get an offhand. Considering the state of the current mesmer utilities, I rather have three new MH skills in combination with the new offhand, than even more utilities.

#I seriously don’t understand why you are so bloody negative. This is speculative. Everything right now is speculative. I am merely throwing up a suggestion. I am trying to say that when someone goes for the specialization, an idea might be that the “something just as good” might be three new mh skills related to an existing weapon, rather than getting three utilities on top of already new utilities.

Everyone on this bloody forum is so bloody negative.

First of all, raises pitchfork “Shield sucks, yadayada”.

Second of all, ignoring all negative sides about us “not getting our 5 skills and missing piece of mesmer action” without knowing anything about specializations nor having the Mesmer shield confirmed, isn’t it an option that the Chronomancer will feature a locked combo of, presumably, a sword/shield combo.
Consider what we know up until now:
*All classes get 5 skills with their new weapon (Ele even more).
*Specializations lock you into one role.
*Things that are considered core to professions, e.g. shatters, ranger pets, etc. will change while locked in this specialization.
*Every class will already get extra utilities/elites/heals when locked into the specialization. Thereby excluding Mesmer (and presumably Warrior) will not receive extra utilities, but rather extra MH skills when in their specialization role.

Would it not be an option that the Chronomancer’s “Extra things to compensate” would entail the shield only be an option in combo with only one MH, as you fully take on the role of Chronomancer. So both your MH and the Shield skills will change, thereby giving you your extra 3 skills. This would make up for the fact we will not get a 2h-er, but rather 3 new skills for scepter OR sword (depending on which role a Chronomancer will have in HoT) when combined with Shield.

Yes. And these two ‘new weaponset combos’ offer only two new skills. By that logic the ele will be the biggest winner, considering they get both 8 new skills AND two new weaponset combos. But guess what. The biggest winners are the classes of which gaps are filled. Rather than just another offhand for the Mesmer. Torch, sword and focus can all three considered defensive, so another defensive offhand seems redundant…

1. Will we receive an iLeap that does not bug, can be cast regardless of target and let us leap and leave behind a copy of us?
2. Will we receive a temporal curtain that does stack with swiftness.
3. Will we get a ms buff?
4. Will we get any form of reliable dps that does not get killed instantly after proccing once vs most bosses/wvw?
5. Will we get any role that does not involve a gimmick?

Note that I’m the most worried about the last one.
If indeed we receive a shield, and this is mainly useful in PvP, it will likely be gimmicky that “changes” pvp. As portal did. Oh wait… And mass invis. Oh wait… And any of the other utilities and skills we have.