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The True Legions and their numbers

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Another bit of information in terms of scale comes from Kyron Darkshield, an Iron Legion hydro-engineer in charge of the Ebonshore Plant in Diessa Plateau. It is said to “purify water used by more than a hundred different camps and the Black Citadel itself”.

Back to unit size (and naming), from an old thread discussing centurions:

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The smallest military unit in Ancient Rome was the contubernium, a group of 8-10 soldiers who lived and fought together; multiple of these units formed a century, which were then grouped as maniples (2 centuries, pre-Marian reforms) and cohorts (6 centuries, Marian reforms).

The Blood Legion area in the home instance has a point of interest called “20th Blood Cohort”, whereas the Iron Legion has the “12th Iron Maniple”, which happens to make sense in terms of each legion’s main role (Blood being organized for higher scale, frontline combat).

The True Legions and their numbers

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Things to take into consideration:

- The centurion from “The Legions of the Charr” is known to have 6 warbands to organize.
- Centurion Sinestra Burngunner, inside the Imperator’s Core, says that she has 12 rifle warbands that report directly to her and 2 more currently under review.
- Castella Swordstrike, at the Mustering Grounds, says her centurion’s got a dozen other warbands to worry about.
- Centurion Korrak Blacksnout, from “Edge of Destiny”, led 300 charr soldiers.
- Centurion Harrow Shroudweather, from “Sea of Sorrows”, was the captain of an Iron Legion experimental naval vessel, originally crewed by 17 charr, grouped into 2 different warbands.
- The “Sentinels” unit as a whole is said by an NPC to be a brigade. The size of this kind of unit in RL typically ranges from 3,000 to 5,000 soldiers, its commander often being either a colonel (high-ranking field officer) or a brigadier general (low-ranking general officer). This is, of course, assuming literal interpretation (which seems fairly reasonable, as they include multiple “cross-Legion” companies commanded by centurions, so its size must be way bigger).

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Furthermore, taking rl numbers of companies for what’s under a centurion is hard to argue because the charr have a different structure beneath platoons (warbands) which throws a wrench into the equation as how the chain of command functions becomes questionable.

This is true, and a very important fact to consider when it comes to estimating numbers.

Warbands are squad-sized units, and they’re supposedly grouped directly into companies, with platoons nowhere to be seen. Taking the numbers from above as a reference, we could argue that a charr company could be anything ranging from a platoon to a small battalion (or one of those “large companies” a primus centurion would command).

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Will the imperator be Khan?

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Technically, Sparwind is in charge now with Brimstone MIA. I wonder if that will play a part in the LS, and if the attitude is any different.

That’s something I’d certainly like to see reflected in the game, but I’m not quite sure they’ll pay attention to all the details involved. They may just go straight to what’s key to the plot as a whole (but again, yes, it would be interesting to learn more about those charr lore not-so-little details).

Will the imperator be Khan?

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The other Blood Tribune in the citadel is Fierhan Sparwind, standing just outside of Rytlock’s office. Thanks to personal story dialogues we also know that seniority is taken into account in order to determine the highest authority of a foreign Legion, specifically referring to the Ash ones, Torga (being the senior) and Makk (the other Ash tribune, who was recently promoted according to himself). We could assume that Rytlock is the “senior tribune” for Blood Legion in the Citadel.

Now, back to the Khan-Ur thing, there’s another interesting dialogue in the Black Citadel, about an Iron Legion tribune (Fume Brighteye) who is against the Treaty and also supposedly “bucking to be the next imperator”, so there may be trouble for Smodur in the future before he can even try to do something with the Claw.

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A Centurion commands a...?

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Essentially, it’s what Zaxares pointed out in the first paragraph. A specific name for that unit is never used in-game apparently (even if early canon lore calls it a “company”).

The smallest military unit in Ancient Rome was the contubernium, a group of 8-10 soldiers who lived and fought together; multiple of these units formed a century, which were then grouped as maniples (2 centuries, pre-Marian reforms) and cohorts (6 centuries, Marian reforms). Nowadays we have modern companies, comparable to centuries and composed of a number of platoons; platoons are then divided into several squads (each comparable to a contubernium).

To me, both in organization and philosophy, a warband is the charr equivalent to a contubernium, with the legionnaire acting as the decanus (or “non-commissioned officer” in command, as explained by Scott McGough himself in a podcast). Additionally, the Blood Legion area in the home instance has a point of interest called “20th Blood Cohort”, whereas the Iron Legion has the “12th Iron Maniple”, which happens to make sense in terms of each legion’s main role (Blood being organized for higher scale, frontline combat).

Now the problem comes with what’s inbetween: a centurion’s unit. The centurion from “The Legions of the Charr” is known to have “six warbands to organize”; Centurion Sinestra Burngunner, inside the Imperator’s Core, says that she has “twelve rifle warbands” that report directly to her “and two more currently under review”; Castella Swordstrike, at the Mustering Grounds, says her centurion’s got “a dozen other warbands to worry about”; Centurion Korrak Blacksnout, from “Edge of Destiny”, led “three hundred charr soldiers”; Centurion Harrow Shroudweather, from “Sea of Sorrows”, was the captain of an Iron Legion experimental naval vessel, originally crewed by seventeen charr, and divided into two warbands (thus, somewhat resembling centuriones classiarii of the Roman Navy).

As you can see, size may vary, considerably. I’m therefore inclined to think that groups of warbands are a heavily modified version of the Roman army centuriae, one that makes it easier for these warbands to adapt to any required situation (just as Zaxares said): a non-specific “number of warbands”, which can be smaller or bigger than typical centuries or companies in size (Blacksnout’s unit could even be compared to a small battalion, although it could also be considered one of those large companies a primus centurion would command).

Going back to the naming issue, it’s possible that both the spread of a common language and military standardization may have led the charr to abandon some of their traditional unit names (e.g. centurions originally commanded “centuries”, but nowadays either the term is not used anymore or these are referred to as “companies” due to them being roughly equivalent in size, even if they differ in internal organization).

When I edited the centurion article on the wiki a few months ago, I decided to stick to the exact definition given by “The Legions of the Charr”, leaving the original quotation marks for the term “company”, due to how ambiguous it is. There was even a long discussion on whether or not a specific article for this was needed, but in the end we decided it was better to just add any detail on these units to the centurion one.

Personally, and being a charr roleplayer myself, I prefer to avoid using any term other than “unit” or “(group of) warbands” while in-character when referring to these unless there’s a good reason for me to use the term “company” (e.g. military standardization of a full charr unit on duty with the Pact).

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Taking fire damage (Heart of the Mists)

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That place is where the bonfire was located before last patch, now relocated to where the former sPvP Mystic Forge used to be (next to the Tournament Master NPC).

They moved the bonfire, but not the damage zone for it.

Dolyak Express Jan 10, 2014

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- During the Tower of Nightmares story arc, we’re told that there are similarities between Bloodstones and Krait Obelisks, presumably due to the latter being able to store magic in the same way the former does. Could you elaborate on that?

- Official lore states that the High Legions are named after their respective Primus Warbands. We know that the Imperator is supposed to lead the Primus Warband as a (presumed) descendant of the Khan-Ur; however, there’s no sign of that when you see the ‘warband surnames’ of the current Imperators. What happened to this ancient tradition of the Charr?

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Charr Guardian and Shield of Absorption

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I believe this bug has been there for months, but anyway, it seems the detonation option for the Guardian’s Shield of Absorption sometimes fails to work with Charr characters, only.

Now, the worst thing about this is not only the fact that you cannot use it to do the AoE heal, but that it roots you on the ground until the whole effect fades, something quite serious if we talk about using it in sPvP, in which those few seconds lost could mean losing the fight as well.

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Daily Activity Sends me to sPvP

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I think this bug is even more serious with Keg Brawl, since we’re only able to play that minigame once a week (on Sundays).

Edit: Alright, i’ve talked to some players from the NA region. It seems this bug is only happening to those of us at EU.

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[Keg Brawl] Massive keg spawn

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Only one keg is supposed to spawn at the beginning. In this case, not only a lot of them spawn, but there’s also plenty of them on the field already before the match actually starts.

[Keg Brawl] Massive keg spawn

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Just as the title says, since the recent July 23rd patch an insane amount of kegs spawn at the beginning of the match.

Edit: Bug fixed.

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Uninstanced Salma District

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Adding my voice here too. And it’s not just Salma, there are plenty of locations only accessible during Personal Story quests that could potentially become RPing spots.

All of this, of course, assuming that the fact that they’re there (i.e. that those zones actually exist in open world too) means they do no harm to the game.

Keg brawl - throwing keg when on ground

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As far as i know, instant skills are not affected by any kind of stun/daze/knockdown/interrupt, and it happens in the whole game, not just in Keg Brawl. Whether this is intended or not specifically here, that’s something we don’t know. Anyway, it has become a ‘popular’ strategy within the Keg Brawl community (i.e. people who play it frequently and are considerably familiar with its game mechanics).

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