Guild Wars 2

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NeHoMaR.9812:

My idea to fix population in WvW:

• Don’t touch servers, no need to merge.
• Reduce tiers to only two:
• Tier 1 will be as it is right now, the top 3 servers.
• Tier 2 will be temporally merged servers as it is in EotM map.
• Every week, the 3rd place of T1 will go to T2, and the best performing in T2 will go to T1.
• If the queue is too big in T2, a new instance could be created, etc. (there are multiple solutions to this problem)

EotM Map is bad. It does destroy many communities which is also bad. I like the idea of not touching T1 because T1 doesn’t need to be “fixed”.

Dayra.7405:

NevilleDevil.4530:

Dayra.7405:

NevilleDevil.4530:

That is 24*4**100 = 9600 people. That is the amount of people that can be in WvW across all the servers at any given time. Reducing this number is not the solution.

Should only 7000 want to play at reset …
Should only 5000 want to play at a normal prime-time …
Should only 1000 want to play at a normal off-time …

Then of course it is time to reduce the 9600.
The question is when and where!

• reduce the 24, i.e. servers, e.g. till capacity of a normal prime-time matches the space
• reduce the 4, i.e. the number of maps, e.g. freeze a map in the off-time, only let it be playable in prime-time
• reduce the 100, i.e. the cap per map, e.g. reduce the cap of map in the off-time

So your going to limit tatics? Pulling people off of maps to stop them focusing an attack? That is kinda nonsense.

I would call it PvD not tactics, but I did not said it should be stopped, I only said it should be reduced.

So e.g. instead of 1 100 people zerg jumping between 4 maps of 100 capacity you will be forced to break it up into 2 50 people zergs jumping between the 3 maps (one is frozen) as each map could have only 50 capacity in off time.

So which server gets the advantage of the frozen map? Red, Blue, or Green? Frozen anything is bad.

Dayra.7405:

NevilleDevil.4530:

That is 24*4**100 = 9600 people. That is the amount of people that can be in WvW across all the servers at any given time. Reducing this number is not the solution.

Should only 7000 want to play at reset …
Should only 5000 want to play at a normal prime-time …
Should only 1000 want to play at a normal off-time …

Then of course it is time to reduce the 9600.
The question is when and where!

• reduce the 24, i.e. servers, e.g. till capacity of a normal prime-time matches the space
• reduce the 4, i.e. the number of maps, e.g. freeze a map in the off-time, only let it be playable in prime-time
• reduce the 100, i.e. the cap per map, e.g. reduce the cap of map in the off-time

So your going to limit tatics? Pulling people off of maps to stop them focusing an attack? That is kinda nonsense.

Dayra.7405:

NevilleDevil.4530:

Before you say all I like is winning. in PTT. I hate PPT; I am in a fighting guild that has fun finding other zergs and killing them. I enjoy the 24/7 coverage because I always can find a zerg to fight, and there many more in T1 that agree with me, all of T1.

Then you should really try to understand John’s proposal and some of my interpretations of it: The population and coverage in these future matches are HIGHER than in current T1, as current T1-server will be only PARTS of the future teams.

However you seem to misunderstand a part of the point of why I am against breaking up T1. I like my community now. How would you feel if you were told, your server has been broken up your not allowed to play with all of your friends, only a part of them; and by part of them, the one that your guild chooses.

Not speaking for you, but I would imagine a lot of people would not be happy with that. I am not going to let someone destroy my server because I found one that I can call home again.

munkiman.3068:

NevilleDevil.4530:

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I feel like there are a scary number of people in that thread who seem to think T1 is the problem rather than the goal, which scares the crap out of me.

Don’t send me back to T2 coverage levels Don’t send me back to T2 coverage levels Don’t send me back to T2 coverage levels Don’t send me back to T2 coverage levels Don’t send me back to T2 coverage levels Don’t send me back to T2 coverage levels Don’t send me back to T2 coverage levels Don’t send me back to T2 coverage levels Don’t send me back to T2 coverage levels Don’t send me back to T2 coverage levels Don’t send me back to T2 coverage levels

PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!
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We want to stay in our coverage and tier for a reason. Anyone who did’t like it left T1 already. Why can’t you see things from other’s perspective.

Before you say all I like is winning. in PTT. I hate PPT; I am in a fighting guild that has fun finding other zergs and killing them. I enjoy the 24/7 coverage because I always can find a zerg to fight, and there many more in T1 that agree with me, all of T1.

I personally don’t mind one bit that t1 exists and we aren’t part of it. So at least some of us are on your side. Some of us actually want to improve the mode, for everyone.

It’s been said since almost day one, the scoring system is horrible for this game mode. We’ve lost so many to that issue on top of the lack of updates, rewards and changes to WvW. ANet keeps saying they need to work on the fundamental issues of the game, yet here we are arguing over band aid solutions which will only get people riled up if implemented.

My exhaustive posts stem from this long standing problem, one that pushes people away from wanting to play WvW and causes sever burn-out. It’s completely frustrating that fixing the fundamental problems is not the focus.

We typically end up bleeding players to a lot of the design decisions ANets made and i’m pretty sure if they keep doing it this way, there won’t be much left in a year and they will have no choice but to merge the remaining top 6 servers.

With the quotation fixed. The idea to lower map caps to T8 standards is NOT REALISTIC. It is estimated that each map can hold 100 people, so let’s do some math. That is 24*4**100 = 9600 people. That is the amount of people that can be in WvW across all the servers at any given time. Reducing this number is not the solution, forcing kitten break up and across all of the other 21 servers.

While there is a problem, which is what I’m not denying. The solution that Jim, in particular, is pushng so hard for is NOT FIXING THE PROBLEM. It is creating problems, and relationships to break apart.

I want there to be a solution for T2 and below, don’t get me wrong, but I will not support a “solution” that creates more problems and destroys server communities. For Jim right now, has to think harder for a solution that does not affect the current T1 scenario because that is not broken. Don’t fix what is not broken and that is T1, you need to fix T2 and below.

Otokomae.9356:

Dayra.7405:

Otokomae.9356:

The people who are complaining that their server is constantly outmanned, has no will to fight, or that they simply don’t/can’t field enough people to compete are precisely the ones who should see their servers merged.
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There’s absolutely no logical reason to destroy only the servers where people are generally happy with the current WvW balance, whether it’s with a forced dismantling or merger, or whether it’s with some sort of passive means, such as punishing servers with a healthy WvW population by artificially inflating the ques there through some sort of new “Lower WvW Cap”.
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When I see Blackgate in the signature and read such a text I can hardly suppress the interpretation: Don’t touch the system, in which I am winning

Really, it’s “Don’t touch the system where people are actually enjoying WvW”. It makes more sense than the suggestions of “Lower map caps so that everyone plays like Tier 8” or “Force those nasty Tier 1 guilds to come help us out, since no one on my server wants to fight, and I don’t want to move, but I still want to win”. I mean, there is a small minority on here from the lowest 2 Tiers whose main argument seems to be “I’m miserable because my server never wins WvW, so either bring everyone else down to our level or force them to fight for us.” These arguments just really don’t make any sense to me.

All in the people in T1 want the 24hr coverage. It’s what we enjoy, and the follwing is quoted from the TC community website:

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I feel like there are a scary number of people in that thread who seem to think T1 is the problem rather than the goal, which scares the crap out of me.

Don’t send me back to T2 coverage levels Don’t send me back to T2 coverage levels Don’t send me back to T2 coverage levels Don’t send me back to T2 coverage levels Don’t send me back to T2 coverage levels Don’t send me back to T2 coverage levels Don’t send me back to T2 coverage levels Don’t send me back to T2 coverage levels Don’t send me back to T2 coverage levels Don’t send me back to T2 coverage levels Don’t send me back to T2 coverage levels

PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!
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We want to stay in our coverage and tier for a reason. Anyone who did’t like it left T1 already. Why can’t you see things from other’s perspective.

Before you say all I like is winning. in PTT. I hate PPT; I am in a fighting guild that has fun finding other zergs and killing them. I enjoy the 24/7 coverage because I always can find a zerg to fight, and there many more in T1 that agree with me, all of T1.

Otokomae.9356:

Jim Hunter.6821:

Zepher.7803:

Since people (and a lot of people do) transfer servers all of the time especially during the tournament, I would say the majority of people could care less about server identity they want to be somewhere where they can win.

So holding onto the server identity complaint is from the minority, and shouldn’t be an issue.

it’s derailing any hopes of something to change anytime this year or the next.

take the bottom 6 servers out(calculated from last 6 months performance), give players a month to switch, THEN start working on these other convoluted ideas.

this is just getting waaaaay overcomplicated.

and I also propose all Anvil Rock, Borlis Pass and Ehmry Bay peeps to find a way to land on the same side

So the people that did stick with their servers, instead of paying to win by transferring, should be the ones to lose their servers? That doesn’t make a lot of sense.

The people who are complaining that their server is constantly outmanned, has no will to fight, or that they simply don’t/can’t field enough people to compete are precisely the ones who should see their servers merged. There’s absolutely no logical reason to destroy only the servers where people are generally happy with the current WvW balance, whether it’s with a forced dismantling or merger, or whether it’s with some sort of passive means, such as punishing servers with a healthy WvW population by artificially inflating the ques there through some sort of new “Lower WvW Cap”.

I mean, you started this thread about how your server needs help with population &/or Outmanned issues, to such a degree that your server (which is in 2nd to last place, currently) can’t even compete consistently in Tiers 7 or 8; you can’t really believe that there’s no problem at all with Anvil Rock, and that this is somehow EVERYONE ELSE’S SERVERS FAULT, and therefore they need to change, not AR… can you? Because that really seems to be what you’ve been pushing this whole time: “Please Anet, bring the map caps down only the number of players that my NEXT-TO-LAST-PLACE SERVER can field, it’s the only way to save WvW!” I mean, it just doesn’t make sense! I have to ask here, was this whole thread originally based on a troll post? If so… you got us, man! Good one.

I honestly think Jim cannot be argued to. Out of all my post that I have tried to argue him to, he has only read the whole post of one of them. The rest of them he has taken a single sentence from them, and said stuff that completely puts words in my mouth that I have never said.

I know 2v2v2 has been discussed, but take a look at this video

Reflect the current ratings (throw Mag to rank 17) and there you go, Alliance System that does not force anyone to move. The downside is some servers do not have the will to win, like in one of the previous post “why bother play WvW” attitude will not fly well with some other servers.

Now to solve the reorganization of TS, once these alliances are set in place. They are locked, no matter what. So all of the people of the “alliance” can fight with voice coms, and same map. It also gives people from EBay and AR a chance to see what happens in T1/T2, if they never went there. No many repercussions against PuGs/Milita people.

Then rebalance EotM to be a viable map or convert some other PvE (or make new map but that is a lot of resources) map , and add it as a 5th map for real WvW. Change EotM into an 8 hr cycle so defense has some meaning, or longer.

It’s just another wall of text that will be probably ignored many, but hopefully the right people read this and watch the video as this may be a cool idea.

Jim Hunter.6821:

NevilleDevil.4530:

I swore I left a server…

Funny how this is the common theme I see from everyone posting that has BG in their sig.

I hate to break it to you but WvW is more than just your tier. Balanced populations means more servers to fight. This will help reinvigorate WvW, and when I say WvW I mean all of the servers.

I left my last server because my guild moved. I personally wanted to leave because there was a sadistic person who got to a leadership power in that server. I wanted away from that server. My two previous servers, I was a server leader/organizer. The people of the server and I brought it up a tier, but then I was targeted by the bad apples of the server because they did not organize the events. This so I left for a new home.

The thing you don’t realize is that you only seem to think people move because of numbers and bandwagoning. I am actually a refugee (server-wise), an exile, or whatever people call it, and I think quite acouple people from BG are as well. People who left their home for various reasons and make their gaming life’s better. I do not want to leave because I found a place where I fit in, and we all fit in the BG community.

How would you feel if I tore up AR and all the other servers get equal amounts of your population?

No more WvW with your guildmates (without gems price of course) or friends. Community TS that I hop in almost daily is gone.

I would have no motivation to play, and I’m pretty sure quite acouple of other people are with me – and you’ll get what you were trying to fix. Population imbalance because you alienated a massive population and they quit. So if I was “forced to go to AR” guess what, you would be one guy short compared to the rest of the servers. Think about that, next time you propose you want to destroy a multiple communities.

I have a feeling, that you’re so hellbent on destroying T1 that you don’t even see the arguments against it, and not even realize the consequences from it.

You only quoted 5 words from me, can’t you make it seem like you actually read what I said!

-Edited for Clarity (11:54pm EST)

Jim Hunter.6821:

Jerus.4350:

Jim Hunter.6821:

felessan.9587:

Map caps are a bad idea because it actually forces some players to stop playing.

Doesn’t force them to do anything. If the wait time to get in to WvW is too long for their liking they have the choice of moving to a server where there isn’t a queue.

This comes with the added benefit of showing off their skill against opponents on equal footing.

Spend some gems and leave your friends behind, no big deal…

Yeah… no. What you’re suggesting is the destruction of communities in a passive aggressive manner.

Pretty sure that is how we got into this situation in the first place…

So you want to destroy more communities to solve the problem? Your solution only brings pain, and that is not needed.

I swore I left a server with a community destroyer, but now I see a guy/girl who wants to destroy at least 3 communities at the same time. Breaking up T1 won’t solve the problem. Population caps won’t solve the problem.

Stopping players from playing the game mode they enjoy is going to make people angry, but I guess I’ll see you in q spot 10,000 when EB can only have 21 people from all servers at the same time and the BL can have a total of 15 people from all servers.

Why not think of a way of HELPING others and not destroying others?

I used to play in Bronze League and let me say this. It is a fricken ghost town. Nobody gets on TS, only EB and maybe Home BL have a decent force on it if it is the weekend. When I say decent, I mean 50 people between the 2 maps. This was 7 months ago, too. I took a visit back to bronze on my Alt account, It it honestly PvD right now. Bronze League is a ghost town, I swore I saw a multiple dust balls rolling through.

To those saying that all of the T1 servers need to be broken up, you messed up. To those that are saying all of the maps need a population cap, you messed up. Why are you trying to limit other’s fun for your benefit? I honestly enjoy the T1 scene because I can hop in anytime and get fights, anytime I want.

We have the different tiers because maybe a 24/7 war zone is not your cup of tea, then fine but don’t destroy other’s cup of tea as well. I am opposed to the idea of breaking up the T1 servers because of offtime numbers, is silly. Maybe if you had the will to win, you would be up to 3 am taking towers, and etc.

Please don’t do the stupid idea of breaking up all of the T1 servers or population caps. Why not try to rally your PvE population or even PvX population? BG does not have 24/7 map q, JQ does not have 24/7 map q, and TC does not have 24/7 map q.

Before you destroy multiple servers, why not trying to organize your server? Why not ask for a server chat? Why not get people on TS? Why not learn from some of the T1 servers about organization? Why “fix” something that is not broken for T1, population? Why try to fix something that is not broken for T1 and some T2 servers? Why don’t you try to fix population from T2 down, so the already pretty balanced population servers can have more fights with one another and future T1 server size maps as well?

Now some people go to lower tier servers want to say because they don’t like zergs all days. They want to have their roaming and if they’re happy – keep them there way. You’re going to destroy 3 or more server communities, and make quite a couple people angry.

Let me conclude on this. I play this game because I like the community I’m in now. I was a community leader/organizer and I was part of “the best community ever, ERP style”. I finally found a server which I can call home (in game of course) and I want it to keep that way.

Sheer numbers won’t solve your problem. If people don’t like the community they’re on they’ll transfer (create imbalance which defeats your solution) or just sheer quit the game (also defeats your purpose and anet’s purpose). What your suggesting is sheerly wrong. If I find myself not on BG and it was the BG I knew yesterday (i.e. you broke up all of T1 and distributed them up between all of the servers), I would probably quit the game. I know I wouldn’t be the only one.

That leaves the Devs with no (good) solution to the non-T1 servers. Well, server merger is a risky idea, breaking up T1 is a bad idea (mass quit or new T1 on 3 new servers), or I don’t know. This is a non-T1 problem which needs to be solved by people who have more insight without destroying T1 or creating a population cap. My advice is think outside of the box.

-Edited for spelling errors
Who knew such a long reply can have a spelling error?

Who is [DN]?
We are a hardcore WvW guild. We pride ourselves on running smaller numbers (~20-25 maximum) vs the large hordes of JQ and TC. You’ll rarely see us backing down from a fight and we aim to become one of the top fighting guilds on the Blackgate server. We may be a hardcore guild, but the overall goal of the guild is have the most fun possible while still maintaining success.

What do we require of members?
Well, good question! We are looking for people who are enthusiastic about running WvW, want to improve their skills and tactics, are active, and desire to help create something great. We require 100% rep with regards to WvW raid participation. Bank guilds are okay, but excessive non-repping may earn you a strike. We also require that you run a build that will provide synergy to the group. A weak link in a party helps bring down the group and may cause unnecessary wipes. We aim to avoid this by providing suggested builds that will help the group in the heat of combat. If you have a build that you run that you really enjoy, feel free to hit one of the officials up for approval.

PPT? Just for the fights? Wtfomgbbqlol?
We aim to focus on maximizing our fun in WvW on a daily basis. Whether it calls for hunting down pesky JQ or TC zergs, or attacking garrisons and keeps to bring victory to Blackgate. We mix it up to keep each WvW night fresh and fun for all of those involved.

Sweet dude, how do I get involved?
Just go ahead and visit http://dn-gw2.com and make an ‘Enjin’ account. From there, head to the recruitment tab and fill out an application. You can also send a mail to NevilleDevil.4530, Lokren.7689, Angel.6085, or ValKarye.3612.

So what classes are we looking for?
We are looking for the following classes:
Warrior
Guardian
Necromancer
Elementalist
Mesmer

http://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/2av9li/wvw_melee_warriorguardian_walkthrough_zerg_play/

This link is excellent for those getting into WvW. For the builds, I would make some edits, but they are decent to good at best.

This is for zerg between 20-40 people, if you have more than 40 you can just blob them down (generally).
The name of the game to WvW is synergy. It is how well you work with the other people. Typically this means all classes but the medium armour classes have good synergy with one another (thief could be used in pick but it an extremely high skill base) but you want to keep to light armour or heavy armour. I would go with something that you enjoy more which is either frontline or backline. Speak with your server’s WvW guilds and see what you would like better, based off of your favorite class.

My only suggestion is if you run full zerk guardian you’re going to have a bad time.

That was briliant… not going to lie.

Also, EotM is a WvW area. Guild groups can go there and have GvG’s and etc. It would be best for the K-Trains to know what guild groups to not go near like EP, Agg, vii, BS, etc. That is just a few guilds to stay away from, unless you have an organized group to fight.

Well I can tell you, if your one of those EotM people, get pvt gear. It’s alot better than you think, and you’ll live and not qq.

I’ll see you in EotM!!!!!!!

We couldn’t get into a BL so we decided to have some fun :p

Ok, since I last visited here there has been a lot of responses.

For those that wonder, I am not a PvE’r; I am a WvW’er. I like to go out and bust zergs, and during my off time I like to make money while having some fun. I am part of a WvW guild, and do GvG sometimes.

While I was doing the JP, and saw people from other servers (JQ and BG), I helped them by showing them the way through the JP. There may have been the accidental torch thrown, but it wasn’t intentional, but we got it done.

I honestly do not see the point in camping in one spot and ganking people. I just don’t see a point in doing it. Do people have nothing better to do in their free time? Maybe someone who did gank can answer my question.

If your wondering if I got ganked, the trolls tried. The gankers met a swift death through my hammer.

I went to the JP on my off raid time. I just don’t see the fun is just taking advantage of people not on the open field. I don’t mind helping others in the JP, even if their from another server. The open field is a whole different story, and that is fair game for fighting.

Last night I went into EtoM, got 500+ kills on NA reset with the guild that I run with. So much more fun just running around trying to gank people.

It is a “PvP” map, and it is a JP. Some people suck at JP, and other’s don’t. I see both sides of the argument. It sucks if you die when your 90% done the JP, but it is what it is.

I know there are trolls, but I like to keep my honor. If I troll others, it makes the guild I’m in look bad.

I got the achieve, and I helped others not even from my server. Yet, I guess I could be that 1% of players that like to respect others in OS.

With the release of the new Season, the amount of people in the OS JP trolling one another has increased. IT has gone from ganking people, to spawn camping. I am making this to remind people about the OS JP etiquette. I believe some level of respect should be shown in the JP. Let’s try and keep some class, and have fun. Fighting is saved for EBG, BL, EtoM, and the GvG arena.

- If others don’t attack you, don’t attack them
- If you see another being trolled, help them (even if they are from another server)
- Offer Mes ports if you can

Let’s respect one another, for honor is important.

Unfortunately with the season, people are going to bandwagon onto one server and get the rewards. To be honest I believe Blacktide & Gandara is that bandwagon server. It is unfortunate to see that happen to poor Whiteside.

I was on Whiteside, but I left earlier because of other reasons. I still keep in touch with my friends from there , and help out in the ways I can. I do wish you guys luck in the season.
-Toasted Neville (formerly known as Alexis Jones)

If your willing to include lower tiers, Whiteside Ridge may be your new server. We currently are T9 almost to go into T8, and our WvW guilds include TasH, ELF, DXP, nE, and others. All of these guilds do use Teamspeak 3, and we all work together and have fun. We are a very friendly community. We have realistically have no ques, and only on prime-time in EB. Your welcome to PM me if I’m online, or send me a mail message (I afk in Black Citadel). My main character names are Alexis Jones, and Kathrine Harris, or just PM me on the forum site.

Also, I play Guardian as a main, and am willing to answer any questions to the class. If you decide to come here. There are many other guardians willing to help you as well if you decide to come here as well.

I hope you give us serious consideration.

swiftpaw.6397:

The problem with that is if you are in a dungeon with 4 other people. You have the potential to ruin their fun by playing a poor build.

This is my final words on the topic, there are two different parts to the game, the build and the player skill. If the player has the best build but has no skill, then the player will ruin your fun.

People preform better when they are playing a build that they like. They tend to pay more attention to the game and preform better.

Also, having people run different builds and test different stats, allow people to discover the next “best” build.

If you may feel like that may ruin your fun, then just play with people who are on your trusted people list. That should be an easy solution to your fun ruining problem. Instead of forcing builds on someone, just not play with them. It’s that simple and your fun is not ruined.

laharl.8435:

NevilleDevil.4530:

There are different builds for a reason. Tanks guardians, DPS guardians, etc. are all useful have have their own uses. Just because someone uses full clerics doesn’t mean that their bad. It means that they’re going for support instead of dps. Why don’t we appreciate the variation that the guardian can do. Your cup of team may be DPS guard, but it is not everyone’s tea. Other people may like coffee better, so they go support. (I’m not calling any type of guardian a certain substance, but just a different flavor.) Some people have different ideas about the guardian, and should be allowed to mess with their own builds until they have what they want exactly in a build. Instead of elite zerg or selfish cleric, why don’t we go with dps and support. I hope that i at least tried to argue for build diversity, and won it with some people.

I felt the same way when I first started. But once you realize the nature of pve in this game, you realize how useless and bad for your team non-dps builds are. Dps guardian still has all the support needed for any pve content in the game. Until there are drastic changes, full dps groups will always fair better than balanced.

Even though best dps is the fastest way to get through content because anet made all classes heal themselves and 99.99999% of pve is stupid easy. Everyone has a way to play where it makes it fun for them. I guess that is the point of what I’m trying to say. If the game is not fun, then why play at all. So if you find a more support build more fun then I understand why you do so. I know some people will disagree with me, but honestly have fun with your class. Don’t make it a trudge for yourself to play a certain way because it the most dps way.

There are different builds for a reason. Tanks guardians, DPS guardians, etc. are all useful have have their own uses. Just because someone uses full clerics doesn’t mean that their bad. It means that they’re going for support instead of dps. Why don’t we appreciate the variation that the guardian can do. Your cup of team may be DPS guard, but it is not everyone’s tea. Other people may like coffee better, so they go support. (I’m not calling any type of guardian a certain substance, but just a different flavor.) Some people have different ideas about the guardian, and should be allowed to mess with their own builds until they have what they want exactly in a build. Instead of elite zerg or selfish cleric, why don’t we go with dps and support. I hope that i at least tried to argue for build diversity, and won it with some people.

Here are more pictures, they don’t show up if I post more than one on the same post.

Here are more pictures, they don’t show up if I post more than one on the same post.

While doing the Thaumanova Reactor Fractal at Lv. 50, we killed the boss and didn’t get to endzone to continue the fractal. For the next 30 min, we tried wiping, killing all portals, and relogging. Nothing worked and we were unable to complete the fractal. It is saddening that all of the hard work the group put in the fractal was a complete waste, and we weren’t able to complete it or get the loot. Please fix it, because people would like to do high level fractals. Attached are pictures at the end, one of the people left by the time I took the pictures.

Zoid, Can I have an invite? I am on an EU server, and I believe this is the best guild name in existence.

Also, I made “Its No Use” [NoGF] for role-playing and stuff.

The guardian changes do not affect the over all builds of the guardian other than the Valor V. All of the other guardian changes do not push the dps guard build. Frankly, Zeal the worst trait line to go into, because every other trait line is better. Radiance would be a better option, but the only weapon option is the sword. You will kill yourself against foes that reflect projectiles.

Possibly reworking the Zeal and the Radiance trait line will open the variation of the guards, until then most guards will be AH, or dsp Meditation. Possibly you could open a whole new, type of guardian which I would like to see.