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@ Okeano,
Sorry for getting your name wrong xD
I think if you’re looking to try something different then maybe a new profession? There are good viable damage builds out there for pretty much everything other than Necromancer, all of them with their own unique playstyle (obviously the ultimate goal is still DPS though, because that’s all dungeons are, DPS checks.)
Yeah, I made a Mes, was liking it at the start messing around with my scepter/staff , go on the forum… s,s/s,p wuuuutt??? facepalm
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@ Okeana, full DPS is the way to go for any profession. Building for survivability makes the encounter take longer which means more chance of botching a dodge or running out of “oh kitten” buttons which is more detrimental to party survivability than building to burn down bosses in seconds.
I’m aware of that now. Back then though, I didn’t know how to dodge and went down all the time. Tho I’m probably still going to keep horn cleanse, and possibly banner heal too. I’m just looking for a more variant I guess, since my guard is already full zerk DPS build.
Where are dungeon posters who will immediate tear apart people who claim to have “good” DPS on their builds? I mean Banner Healing? Main Hand Sword? Is this a joke?
The worst part is you spread this cancer to new players who don’t know any better.
If you’re that worried about conditions then slap on Shake It Off or Signet of Stamina, hell you could even go Lyssa Runes and spam Signet of Rage on a reduced cooldown.
I guess OP’s question falls inline with what I’ve been wondering about my warrior. Is pure DPS build the only way to go for warrior? I have a DPS guard, and blasting fire field, buffing ageis, stack blind/vuln and etc feel a lot more fun and engaging than my warrior’s spamming GS/axe attacks. I guess my problem with warrior is that going full DPS just puts me to sleep.
My build have “terrible” DPS, I think 0/20/0/30/20. I’m enjoying the horn condition removal and my banners. I do have full zerk gears. I was a brainless noob that went full offensive and kept downing before I switched to vit build. The last 20 points were added as a crutch a year ago to let me vengeance res, which I’m probably going to take out. I’m just not looking for a pure DPS build since I have guard for that, maybe 20/20/0/30/0?
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Was with a scepter/shield guardian last night. Err yeah…
I’m blasting my own fire field as often as I can, but only one group that I’ve been with from Black Gate take advantage of my fire field lol. 3 guards, ele and _. A beautiful thing when everyone worked on sync, take turn LoW and speed field each other.
Seems like I’ll have to try the double night sigil thing, since I run CoF and AC often.
Thanks guys.
More question. I run staff as main swap, unless I need to switch for very special fights. I enjoy staff’s speed and LoW for skipping mobs, and also the might stack before a fight. Does that sound about right? I do have hammer and GS in inventory but I find myself rarely use them. Even for group of mobs, I feel more comfortable running around in them with S/F, spam blind than stand there and AoE with GS or hammer.
When I got gears for my warrior a year ago, Divinty was “the thing”. They were a couple of gold back then, so imagine my shock coming back to the game with them being 9 gold.
It’s clear that Scholar is now the PvE DPS runes but I’m not sure what runes people run for PvP. I only do PvE for now, but would like to start looking into PvP. Are these stil pretty decent all around runes or should I be getting 2 sets of gears with Scholar on PvE set and something more defensive on PvP set?
Soon the in game LFG will be out of beta so you can use that tool
I’ve been using that, just most party ask for experienced player.
Was able to get few p3 runs in. Always had to go roll CoF afterwards to rub my bruised ego.
Lol pubbies of this game are just as stupid.
Let me guess, a 10 year old?
Anyone else’s thought on 10/30/0/10/20 vs 10/30/0/20/10 ?
Thanks, I’ll be sure to watch video guides for them.
ask your guild, im sure a couple of arah newbie groups pop up every once in a while on lfg. Best thing to do is watch a couple of guides and look into the lupicus fight (not melee but range version) so you dont act completely lost and get kicked. good luck
Are the videos of the stick still relevant or have things changed since then?
I never done it before. There are rarely any on the lfg page and when there are, they require knowing the paths. Am I just screwed until I find a big guild?
Your build sacrifices a lot of survivability to gain little to no additional dps. (assuming same full berserk gear)
The math to back this up?
Thanks.
I guess I should pack my questions all in here. I see 10/30/0/10/20 gets thrown around a few times while 10/30/0/20/10 not as much. I would assume the trade off being EM vs condition removal from VoR. Is EM not that important even tho I’ll have high crit and fast auto attack so that I’ll be buffing might often? I guess if I’m using WoR and “Retreat” for utility, that leaves me one slot for condition removal. Is that not enough due to the sheer amount of conditions some bosses, in instances that I haven’t tried yet, will throw out, or just because you shouldn’t rely on PUGs to remove condition?
Is there a good post or wiki page that explains the way damage/sigil is calculated for dual wielding? Are 3 attacks from main hand only affected by damage value of main weapon and off hand attacks calculated from off hand weapon, or are the two weapons averaged together?
That’s true, I’ll eventually have the weapons if I just run them fast for money often if not daily. I guess I’ll just use copies of CoF sword/focus. Using mismatched color weapon might bug me a little but I’ll live. Been farming all over the place to make my weapon match red/white armor >_>. Why can’t we dye weapons!
Another thought, I’m going to work towards ascended sword. It wouldn’t make sense to use other specialized weapon depending on enemy then would it?
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I would highly recommend hydromancy or one of the other sigils that does damage on weapon swap. I consistently crit for 3-4k on my zerker guardian, so I think these sigils are overlooked when it comes to the damage they do.
But for prolonged fights, their benifit diminishes, even if I swap weapon right before the fight since swaping during it would cut my DPS unless I run sword twice.
I’ll keep Night/Force as an option, but I’ll have to stack Bloodlust with other weapon. Is Strength not viable due to only buffing 30% X crit % of the time?
If you’re interested in picking up more copies of swords and foci, a night sigil and an enemy slaying sigil is 20%+ damage depending on the dungeon.
That sounds like a lot of farming just so that I can farm faster =X.
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As much as standing on top of 4 any other classes -.-
10/30/0/20/10 full zerk, main sword/focus. I was thinking Bloodlust on focus and Strength or Force on sword but I’m not sure. Would a Froce on focus and sword add up to 10%?
It doesn’t matter if same 5 people ran the same build because AH is independent of each other. You can have four other monkeys there and what you’ll get from AH heal remain the same.
This is the lemongrass guy – he’s a troll. Stop feeding….
Are you sure he’s not just stupid?
Yeah nice backtracking,
“If you have 5 hammer warriors on top of each other using that build, it is basicly 700 hp/s for Altruistic Healing alone, per guardian.”
“70 × 5 × 5 = 1750 Per Guardian with Altruistic Healing. "
And nice math of “That is 3-5 Might stacks and 5 Protection boons per second.” I don’t think “second” means what you think it does.
You have no idea what you’re talking about. Stop spurring your worthless misconception here. It’s people like you that made reading and learning about builds and weapon choices such a pain in the kitten .
I am not familiar with the exact details of the build,
but for the same purpose, wouldn’t it be better versatility to play 10/30/0/20/10 ?
the 25 points give you 10% more damage on low endurance, which is nice.
but the 10 points in virtues allow you to chose one of the above for any encounter:+ 20% damage when you have aegis for the ranged fights or when you can dodge out of harm.
+25% retaliation duration, for trash fights (or www).
better wall of reflection (lower cd and 12 second duration) like for almost every dungeon except cof.
improved spirit shield duration (yeah for the two fractals that needs them, but its very helpful).personally, i don’t understand dungeon builds without 10 points in virtues… but maybe I am missing something.
It’s a sword build with 2h weapon as swap, I’m almost never going to be at range.
But I can see it being good for instances that I need to spam WoR. I stopped playing after gotten my warrior to 80 when I got the game at release and just recently getting back to it so I’m not too familiar with using WoR. Thanks for pointing it out, I’ll definitely consider it.
I didn’t say that at all. Find a quote where I said that and link it here :P
2 Hammer Guardians.
0/0/30/30/0
Each Time each criticals, they get 1 stack of might, they also get a protection buff.
If they both have AH, it heals them both and stacks up.
If you have 5 hammer warriors on top of each other using that build, it is basicly 700 hp/s for Altruistic Healing alone, per guardian. It has no internal cool-down.
Also you have to realize each symbol is also healing each guardian, so that is even more healing.
I remember a video of guardians using someone to tank an entire zerg with this build.
I don’t think you understand.
AH is the best PvE Trait in the entire game.
http://www.guildhead.com/skill-calc#mccM9VMGRTmMGRTm9MxxVVzqMRa
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Symbol_of_ProtectionHave 5 Guardians all using that build with Symbol of Protection alone, you Heal all your allies, each critical giving them Might.
That is 3-5 Might stacks and 5 Protection boons per second.
70 × 5 × 5 = 1750 Per Guardian with Altruistic Healing. Now lets say all 5 of those symbols also healed allies, that is an extra 535, which is 2285 Hp/S per second, not counting the healing skill or virtues.
Let me spell it out for you since you obviously don’t understand.
When a Guardian uses Symbol of Protection, it gives Protection and does damage, which can critical and also give Might. (gasp)
Those are two boons which affect all allies, which means it could give another guardian who has AH those two boons (gasp) and also heal him!
He thinks each guardian heals everyone in party with AH, and also get heal from AH for each boon the party members get, even if they didn’t apply the boon.
K I’m new to this forum, but please tell me stupidity is a bannable offense on here? It seems that pubbies are everywhere no matter the game, good thing is I don’t have to have you ending up in my squad by random chance like my last game.
Aaaaaaaaaand feel free to crawl back to the game you came from.
Oh please. I’m not the one spurring misinformed advise while have completely wrong understanding of how a skill work.
K I’m new to this forum, but please tell me stupidity is a bannable offense on here? It seems that pubbies are everywhere no matter the game, good thing is I don’t have to have you ending up in my squad by random chance like my last game.
Face palm
You’re using 60 points (there are 70 points total). AH does not stack as I mentioned in the other thread. You and ONLY you, ONLY get healed from the boom you applied yourself.
I don’t think you understand.
AH is the best PvE Trait in the entire game.
For lazy baddies, yes.
You’re using 60 points for a build, you think AH “stacks” and heal multiple party members. Just stop.
Your not reading what i’m saying, so I will just ignore you.
Holy crap are you blind? THEY DON’T STACK! YOU DON’T GET HEALED WHEN ANOTHER GUARD TRIGGERS HIS AH.
Let me spell it out for you since you obviously don’t understand.
When a Guardian uses Symbol of Protection, it gives Protection and does damage, which can critical and also give Might. (gasp)
Those are two boons which affect all allies, which means it could give another guardian who has AH those two boons (gasp) and also heal him!
-.- you have to be the person that applied the boon to get healed from AH. You don’t randomly get healed from AH when your allies apply boon… Do you even have a guardian?
I don’t think you understand.
AH is the best PvE Trait in the entire game.
For lazy baddies, yes.
You’re using 60 points for a build, you think AH “stacks” and heal multiple party members. Just stop.
Your not reading what i’m saying, so I will just ignore you.
Holy crap are you blind? THEY DON’T STACK! YOU DON’T GET HEALED WHEN ANOTHER GUARD TRIGGERS HIS AH.
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I don’t think you understand.
AH is the best PvE Trait in the entire game.
For lazy baddies, yes.
You’re using 60 points for a build, you think AH “stacks” and heal multiple party members. Just stop.
K first of all, EM is independent of AH, so high crit build with fast attack rate buffs might MUCH more compare to the slow hammer attacks with lower crit rate. And why aren’t you using the other 10 points?
AH is NOT a party wide heal and only heals the one with it. I don’t think you know how this works.
We’re not talking about tanking zerg in WvW, OP is asking about PvE. And my point is that you don’t need the heal from AH in PvE and it just serves as a crutch for lazy players.
If another guardian is in your group with AH its fun.
Why? AH does nothing for you but the guard himself.
You’re throwing 30 points into Valor that, outside of small toughness buff, do nothing for your ally. It’s a selfish trait.
Define “high”, because it certainly is relative.
AH amazing, don’t listen to nay sayers.
Gain Might on Critical + Symbols + AH + Hammer/GS is amazing in PvE, its almost +300 Hp/s for EACH ALLIE standing inside.
Also offer perma protection.
I refuse to do most groups on my War without a Hammer Guard.
Do you know what else is amazing? Killing twice as fast as your build so I have to tank half as much damage and able to stay moble.
I’m new to Guard, mine reached 80 less than a month ago. I thought I would make it with Knight armor, AH, with GS Mace and Shield because I was a noob. As all games I play and try to be at least decent at, I read up the forum. The different opinions and weapon options boggled my mind. After a while of reading, it started to be more clear which ones are the good players and which are the “play for fun”. I came across this sword/focus build 10/30/0/25/5 that focus on blind and VoJ that just made sense. I have to say I LOVE it! It’s amazing how fast I kill things and sword with its mobility, high crit, which means constant vigor allows me to dance in circle around bosses. Against a group, I can constantly spam VoJ for AoE burn, blind, vulnerability and might buff since it recharges every time a mob dies. The synergy on top of the DPS of this build is amazing, and I can toggle EM with 2 hand wep skill cool down to help staff, GS or hammer as second weapon.
Been running lots of CoF, SE, AC this weekend in mostly rares and haven’t had much problem with survivability at all. As someone who’s new to the class, instead of “elitist”, I can confirm that AH is just that, a crutch.
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Regen doesn’t tick if your target is at full health.
Our HP weren’t full. We were testing it on mobs and 3 banners weren’t even doing anything to stop the poison ticking.
I’ve trying out healing with banners with Inspiring Battle Stand and Inspiring Banners , but it seems that the heal is bugged? We’re getting regen boom but not actually healing at all. Am I doing something wrong?