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I tried to make a beta character before a beta event was ever live, realized it wasn’t a beta character, then deleted it without realizing I had strapped that character with all of my ultimate edition rewards. I’m really smart. Anyway, I think I would have preferred they had not made that the functionality of the “create beta character” button outside of a beta.
I really thought this was going to be about Tybalt.
The Thief mechanics are solid and we have trait lines that everyone agrees are good.
Actually, that seems to be a sizable point of contention, judging by the tone of both this thread and rest of the Thief subforum. It suggests that a large amount of dedicated Thief players are NOT satisfied with the current state of their class and its core competencies.
Steal is a reasonably useful—but still clunky—class mechanic that has a lot of issues that come with it. One is that you are forced to go Trickery if you want Steal to be genuinely worthwhile; most of the other trait lines enhance it, but in ways that are not good enough on their own.
So yeah, I’d say Trickery is the only Thief trait line that is widely agreed upon as “good”, but in a sense where it’s so vital that it’s not even a choice… you really need that +3 Max Initiative in particular. This leaves the following trait lines as choices:
Acrobatics: Universally agreed upon as a bad traitline, except in S/D builds where it is borderline TOLERABLE. This will improve in HoT with S/D builds using the DD traitline, but that’s probably it.
Critical Strikes: A gimmicky trait line that has some good stuff but is real hit or miss. It is good for D/P and great for Pistols, but you can rarely fit it in regardless.
Deadly Arts: Suffers from some focus issues, but is up there with Trickery as one of our best lines (or really, the only other one that comes close to being good).
Shadow Arts: Seems to be a real point of contention. Some people think it’s a great line, some think it’s awful. My take is that it’s a clunky, badly arranged trait line that you shouldn’t HAVE to take, but in today’s awkward SPvP meta, are often forced to.
So then this would still go back to why I believe that DD can be good in spite of the core class. I pretty much agree with all of your assessments when it comes to trait lines, which means we can have three good lines ( I think DA is good). So we run DA, TR, DD, and that covers our traits. I also believe s/d will see a resurgence. The reason it stopped seeing use before was due to the dismemberment of Acro, but it has the support it needs back with DD trait line. I am also curious if we might see a return of d/d players, which have been pretty few for quite a long time. I’m mostly just basing that on lotus training, though. Alright, fine, I’m grasping at straws on that one.
Reapers will do fine vs Daredevil and Thief in general imho, Going for relentless pursuit and good use of Infuseing Terror and he can dance around with his kitten Stick all he wants….
A traditional Condi Necro gets again a big hit, after Berserker last week seems Condi Necro gets hard countered yet again… specially with the 1s ICD Dodge removal Master trait.
All a thief needs to do is wait out your infusing terror by dodging out and resetting the fight then re-engage while your infusing terror is on cooldown. It’s not like you will catch up to a half competent thief.
3 dodge bars to avoid all your gap closers, hell you’re lucky if the thief doesn’t just whittle you down to death with shortbow kiting.
Yea we will see, in 3y I never seen a patient Thief that just Shortbow spam from a distance they always come in for the big hits, always. Iam not worried about Thief sry… What worries me is what worries me now: the stances of a Warrior
I used to do that all the time on my Thief back when the acro line was what it was. Kiting shortbow Thief shall rise again!
No one knows how it’s going to turn out: welcome to life!
People not knowing everything is a given for any particular form of communication. We meet to discuss things BECAUSE we don’t know, or we’d just be off in the corner by ourselves, knowing exactly how specs will turn out and getting rich from our inborn knowledge of futures on the stock market.
I’m just saying I think it was a little brash to just say DD is a lost cause because of core Thief needing work. If you wanted to, you could have almost nothing on your skill bar from the core Thief. The Thief mechanics are solid and we have trait lines that everyone agrees are good. So if you take those good trait lines, add DD, take good or synergistic weapons, and add staff if it ends up good along with good utilities from DD and the core class, You can end up with something that is very good. It does not matter if the core class has issues if you can just take what is good from it and leave the rest.
I do want the issues with acro, S/D, main hand pistol, and all the other issues we have to be fixed, but those issues will not automatically decide whether or not DD will be a performer.
I’m not a Christian and I’m really offended by this Anet . Please do something about it , can’t I enjoy a new free outfit without a religious reference ???
I’m not a transsexual. You don’t hear me complaining they put one of them in. It’s not even a Christian reference anyway, but they can only put stuff in involving topics you agree with? Get off your Highness Horse.
Why does it turn out that way? You nor I know how this is going to turn out. None of us have played it yet. Your post is hearsay. As for Rain’s post, it was definitely directed at the OP. He was the one complaining about lack of stability (for some reason).
Okay, you hate the Daredevil, got it. The only thing I agree with in your post is the healing skill is lackluster. However, apparently you can move while you cast it according to WP. No idea how that would work, though, and he did not seem sure.
I don’t really see where resistance or stability is necessary here. All classes operate differently, and those are hardly things that we need to “check in the box.” Our defense is dodging anything that would be damaging us or hindering us. DD seems quite adept at it.
As for the DD trait line that I believe you are comparing to the old acro line, they are very comparable. I think the DD line is a little better, but I can at least understand the complaint of them killing the acro line.
Lastly, I would like to hear what weapon skills are new utilities are like. You lost me a bit on that one.
Haha, wow. That line may have been taken slightly out of context. I think it would be hard to fall in love with a sylvari for the other races. They don’t really have some of the needed equipment the other races have, if you catch my drift.