Guild Leader of Fat Insecure Neurotic Emotional[FINE]
Resident of Maguuma
On the topic of [FINE] Im glad to see you all come over and have already had a few fun moments commanding alongside you Samusen. Also to EB the actual fights I have had with your main forces have always been fun and enjoyable. Keep it up! And for the record I only /laugh at thieves who try to stealth kill me and fail other than that if you put up a good fight I’ll salute you or even whisper you it your really good.
Haha, yeah we’ve been having a lot of fun haven’t we.
Haha I think the Overmind is more like it since we zerg heavily. xD
The thing I like about Maguuma is, theres no fighting between people. Theres no pointless bickering about who is right or wrong. It’s just one way.. and it’s so fluid. Maguuma is a voice of 1, and not 1000s
Mag calls for help across all 4 borderlands when numbers are an issue, because it’s easy to do when you’re all sitting in a single voice chat. Makes a very large difference. Hopping from BL to BL to defend a key location is what it’s all about.
I’ve yet to be on this server for a full week yet, but it is truly amazing how people will rally to us when we ask. This server has such a great community, and helpful guilds. I must say Mag has the best pugs I’ve seen so far. I thank you all for giving us one of the best weeks of WvW we’ve ever had.
Especially yesterday afternoon, when we golem rushed Ebays fully upgraded Garrison. You guys rallied with us so well, one of my most memorable commander moments ever. The whole golem siege from; creation, transporting, to taking the keep was all done under 20 minutes. Was incredible..
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Score update from two hours ago. So close, Maguuma.
Sanae Kurita, Mag
I was withholding judgment about FINE jumping ship to Maguuma, and had a lot of respect for Meow for staying on their server, but after this post and the one gloating above, I’ll have to call you out…
Meow is not leaving. I’m representing Meow, now, since FINE has left (but was in both guilds for a while). I’m also trying to work out some ways to get more people to WvW, since I’m honestly getting tired of seeing ghost towns in team chat in the borderland maps.
Miu really appreciate Meows loyalty to NSP, that goes to OS and War as well, you guys rock and are the main reason we do well
Enjoy getting carried by Maguuma’s loyal, core guilds that did all the work for you.
Who are you to judge anyone Jamaz. You think you know him from a couple of posts on the forum? What because our server at NSP didn’t get a huge influx of guilds and become a thriving WvW server like yours. that are better than us? He didn’t grow as a player because of what the server taught him, he grew from people and guilds. Who are you to judge what he wants to do, in order to be happy in a video game.
As for being carried, yes the server did not NEED us to win. But have we contributed with what we can, and when we can of course we have. They may not need us, but we’re going to step up anyway if that’s ok with you buddy. We have not said we were the reason Maguuma is beating Ebay, but we have been a part of it just as much as any guild. So I’m going to ask you now to leave my members alone, and get over your grudge against us.
I don’t mean any offence to Ebay, you guys generally do a great job and the fights are always fun when you have the numbers out there, but I suspect we are getting a few of your crappier players transferring over.
I really loathe the whole transfer thing and wish they just put and end to it – just leads to the worst elements moving from server to server and ruining it for everyone – I realise that there are cases of good people transferring for genuine reasons but they seem to be the exception rather than the rule.
Actually, you guys got a rather large influx of NSP this week as they had a mass exodus after a string of losses. We’ve been seeing their guilds playing on your server (specifically FINE).
And considering they are the type of people to make this () and transfer off after they lose…yeah, it’s probably them.
It was never about winning. NSP has bever been a high winning server. You think we stayed on NSP for winning? We’re at the bottom and have been there for quite some time. It was a rally for PvE guilds to join WvW, and it failed. I would prefer you not judge my guild, when you have no idea who we are or why we came here.
We’ve only ever moved once and it was because a community didn’t come together. We’re happy here on Maguuma with it’s more WvW based community. We joined a server that was 3 ranks up as well, thats maybe a handful of wins more. It was never about that, we joined here because of Mag’s community. So I would prefer if you didn’t harass my guild. Thanks
Says the guy whos been there for what…. 3 days?
We don’t hate that you did or anything, we just find it hilarious.
Its one thing to transfer off a badly coordinated server onto one that does have coordination and is mostly likely higher tiered
Its another to transfer to the enemy of a server that just got done stomping you.
We have been in contact with Maguuma for over 3 weeks, well before you fought us. You think we came to Mag because you were fighting them next week? Yes we left our server we have been on from the start to help stomp your server. No, we have been talking to Mag guild leaders and looking at their server for some time.
Maguuma doesn’t have guilds that have petty differences and refuse to work together. A majority of their pugs are active members of their community and they have a very fluid structure. This is what we tried building on NSP but failed. So we instead felt as if we would be a good fit here. Especially as it was one of the last non-full PvP dedicated servers left we could move to. It was the optimal choice.
P.S. We have been in contact with Maguuma ever since FINE helped start the first Thursday Night Fight. http://i.imgur.com/Gi4tE.jpg?1 , If you require more proof
reddit link for date: http://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/123xra/welcome_to_fight_club_guild_wars_2_edition/
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I don’t mean any offence to Ebay, you guys generally do a great job and the fights are always fun when you have the numbers out there, but I suspect we are getting a few of your crappier players transferring over.
I really loathe the whole transfer thing and wish they just put and end to it – just leads to the worst elements moving from server to server and ruining it for everyone – I realise that there are cases of good people transferring for genuine reasons but they seem to be the exception rather than the rule.
Actually, you guys got a rather large influx of NSP this week as they had a mass exodus after a string of losses. We’ve been seeing their guilds playing on your server (specifically FINE).
And considering they are the type of people to make this () and transfer off after they lose…yeah, it’s probably them.
It was never about winning. NSP has never been a high winning server. You think we stayed on NSP for winning? We’re at the bottom and have been there for quite some time. It was a rally for PvE guilds to join WvW, and it failed. I would prefer you not judge my guild, when you have no idea who we are or why we came here.
We’ve only ever moved once and it was because a community didn’t come together. We’re happy here on Maguuma with it’s more WvW based community. We joined a server that was 3 ranks up as well, thats maybe a handful of wins more. It was never about that, we joined here because of Mag’s community. So I would prefer if you didn’t harass my guild. Thanks
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Goodbye home
Good luck this week NSP, we’re cheering for you.
Yeah, I’m pretty surprised Maguuma is actually being pretty chill about the whole the match. But a lot of our server’s hostility comes from being in Tier 7 for a while after being abandoned by half our WvW population and trudging through the down times. We also always lose during the morning to any server, so while the modest players are desensitized, most of them are still bitter. We’ve also gotten a lot of new transfers recently riding the bandwagon, not sure they represent us.
Shadowmoon and the main guilds at least appreciates the match up. This 1v1 has been incredibly challenging to us. The thing that stymies us the most is that Maguuma is willing to dedicate defenders at every spot and show discipline in responding to defense which is what was missing in Tier 6-7. We see a lot iLL, GOON, and SFD responding in force without trickling in, and apparently our old friends, FINE too.
What, no PYRO or EVOH? No respect, y’hear? No respect at all.
I kid. We like playing you guys, hope the rest of the week stays this fun.
Well, we heard how much fun Maguuma has been having and we felt left out. So we decided to put our old differences away and join their cause. I think it’s safe to say, we’re home.
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so Northren shiverpeaks is using bots. we just got defeated at etheron hills by 2 guilds of bots. although i will say 90% of the bots in my screenshot on the way to the anet team were in the guild XXXX. all ranger, all in green. all running around in circles behind one another where the guild lord fell as i laid on the floor watching them. It is also a wonder why EB is staying out of this borderland. the ranger army of bots swarming really suck. It is bad when you have to cheat so bad it what is supposed to be fun for all.
Hi, I am the Guild Leader of [FINE]. I’d like you to remove our guild name from your post based on the fact you have no proof shown. One dead FINE member and a group of people who are in fact not running around in a circle but just standing there shows there is no botting. You may be upset because your zerg was wiped trying to take something that only a few people held. But that gives you no reason to throw out claims of cheating against my guild.
You may also be interested to know that FINE actually only fields 4 rangers at the most. You may be confused with warriors, and thiefs using bows as well. Also to answer the question of why people are running behind members of FINE, it’s because we have the most commanders on server and are one of the best WvW guilds. People often follow our members around because we speak up in Team chat to organize defenses.
So I am asking you to take out my guild name and remove the picture of my guild member where you have labeled them bots with no actual proof. If you reported people for botting, then let Anet sort them out. But throwing out accusations against my guild in a public forum without any proof is down right rude. So I will be forced to report you in turn, if you do not remove your false claims.
P.S. I would also like an apology when you realize, that you were mistaken.
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even tho guilds and members from Maguuma have abused in game mechanics over and over.
Be a dear and start fielding screenshots, ’kay?
I do not know if you are ignorant or trolling. But the mechanic abused was a rendering issue, where they cannot be seen. Not to be confused with the previous invisible bug. But a clearly stated issue in which both NSP and DH have been seen, even other Maguuma people have acknowledged this. Have you even read any other post here?
While a few guilds from my server are actually taking to this truce that DH has with us. I do not think I can honor this, even tho guilds and members from Maguuma have abused in game mechanics over and over. I still will not take part in this truce. For all of these peoples efforts in breaking mechanics it’s still no where near enough to come close to DH’s night capping.
While the Darkhaven’s day crew will never out perform Maguuma without help, they don’t need anything at all during the day to boost their lead during the night. It was evident last week of this.
DH has asked the NSP to form a truce so that we can erase green from the map every night and let them have no points. What does this mean for everyone else? It means from when NSP has it’s primetime and DH is a few hours from it, all towers and keeps will be reset that green once owned. This actually allows them to cap the map faster when we log off and let their night crew go mostly unchallenged.
The truce they offered us would actually just let them seal the deal on this win. I refuse to let my guild be a part of this. This map is 1v1v1 for a reason, not to mention we’re adding in another variable with play times and higher server populations. If people from my server don’t open their eyes to this joke that DH is offering us, I’ll be very ashamed of NSP.
in WvW
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Are there any screen shots of Northern Shiverpeaks players with the orb or even flying?
Sam, You put into words exactly how I feel about NSP. You went from being a top tier server to his cause your top alliance left. You’re all great players, and I have seen a decline in your numbers during the past few days. That being said, I have also had some hugefights with TBH and FINE over the past 2 days, so I know you’re not all taking a break Actually, as I post this, I think you’re attempting to take your orb back.
There are still a few FINE members out an about, but the majority of the guild has been running dungeons to get finalized on their gear sets and make some money while we can. Appreciate the compliments and it’s been fun fighting against you as well. I hope one day our servers clash again and can have some more great fights.
I did not mean that I had lost respect for every member in ANV, just that it’s name was being tarnished. I am sorry I was a bit rash and I wish you all good luck in the upcoming weeks.
Nice orbs you got there.
And like I said, you can auto attack gates and fight npcs all you want, I have no issues with that. But don’t talk like you are outplaying us in anyway.
You do realize we’ve given up on WvW and are all doing dungeons right now don’t you? We’re waiting til reset, but if you need this kitten stroke and a big old pat on the back. We’re more than happy to provide it for you.
Good job sir, we are happy you have accomplished something as in getting 2 orbs finally after 5 days. You should totally Kitty Catttttttttt talk us after being down the entire week and calling us bad. You sir are the worst kind of player I have ever seen post on this forum. If your guild leader ever reads this, I hope they wise up and kick you because I for one have lost respect for ANV.
Good day
(Edit: I just want to clarify that I never troll or harass on a forum, but this guy absolutely disgusts me)
Icyie.9341 you can argue about night capping all you want. the servers with a large night team but poor day team will always say it is fair and that WvW is a 24/7 game. While the servers without night teams get sick of taking half the map only to lose it all when they sleep.
I have no issues with ‘night cappers’, if you want to beat on the gates and fight npcs, you have the right to play during your peak time.
But when Anvil Rock has half the map it is very clear that you are, as you put it, in an ‘even’ bracket.
See you in a few weeks time NSP.
I can’t tell if trolling.. or just ignorant.
Aww @ Toble
Is our hotel room ready? @ Raiyn
Hello,
We are currently accepting all levels and classes focused on becoming better in the aspects of WvW. We have a few requirements you may be interested in reading before you decide to touch base with us any further;
1. You must be an either casual or hardcore WvW (2+ Nights in WvW a week)
2. You must represent us when you are in WvW (We currently do not offer PvE and understand if you wish to farm gear with another guild)
3. Mumble is required to be in an active PvP guild group. You will not be invited to one otherwise. Speaking is optional but listening and following are required.
We have a website, forums, and mumble. We are an active USA / EST WvW guild with a few night time players. We are one of the best PvP guilds on server and are quite renown for our play styles. Message one of the following in game for an invite or contact me here either via PM / post.
Thanks,
Sam
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Fiero
Scumbag David
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As for useless zergs try and organize them. People who are approached and asked to be given a task personally are usually grateful/compliant. I’m not talking about messaging all of them but maybe a handful each night. Befriend them and treat them like a person instead of +1. It’s your server and your community, make the most of it and be a leader.
I think TFO uses more rams than everyone else on your server put together. While TFO is great at lightning fast non-upgraded tower sieges, I’m curious to see if you could delegate people to defending them. All in all what you are doing would be highly effective if your server could capitalize on your guild being a distraction. The problem that you are causing is we have effectively countered you. We often have 2 groups of 5 following your 30-40 man group capping everything behind you without resistance.
You guys are not a bad server, you just seem to be uncoordinated in the grand picture. You have many large and great guilds but it seems like there are huge divisions in what these guilds are trying to achieve. If you got together and actually focused on a singular task with a solid plan behind it you’d be doing even better. Good luck though, hope you guys only get stronger.
Seems like you got out smarted….
whats better, is when a kep is upgrading, as an attack on it is occuring. Then the upgrade is complete and magically the wall is 100%.
It’s not about being out smarted, it’s being in a situation with either 2 out comes, you ball as one and push then die to aoe or get your force split by a magically appearing wall.
This is really a non-issue.
Change your tactics. Don’t rush through as soon as the wall falls, or immediately pushback anyone who is trying to repair.
Stability and invulnerability can easily allow someone to bring the wall back up. It’s not a matter of instantly rushing but rushing at all.
If any other server in the world had experienced what we did as a community they to would have large unorganized groups of players massing together to achieve objectives. While all remember that our higher tier of WvWvW players leaving us early on (Ascension Alliance). Many forget that we also lost our middle tier WvWvW players as well. The Mist alliance was the second alliance to form on server, they too left us during the 1st week of AA leaving. All in all we lost 25 Major WvWvW guilds in the course of a week.
By any means our server should be a rolling pile of garbage, it’s not what it deserves but what has happened to it. Our largest WvW guilds only put forth maybe 1/6th of the over all population in WvW at peak time. That means roughly 5/6th’s of our server is uncoordinated, non-communicating and usually following one of our commanders. You are fighting unorganized zergs whom are being hand held by talented commanders and guild leaders. You should be rolling these groups no matter what.
We didn’t ask for; Jim, John and Nancy to all have their own guilds and be casual WvW’ers. It’s what we had left over after our server was abandoned. We make the most of it and we’ve stepped up to over come these obstacles. Not but 2 weeks ago Anvil Rock decimated us, we were on the receiving end of annihilation. Our server is still recovering from it’s own wounds after being abandoned twice.
As for those who don’t understand why guilds stayed behind after both alliances leaving is all but too simple to answer. Anyone can follow those whom are already made, those who are established and built on strong foundations. Most people just want to take the easy route and follow suit behind the biggest and best. But there are those of us who want to build something for ourselves, something in which we can truly be proud of. We’ve worked harder at building our server back in 2 weeks than prolly more than half the servers combined since the creation of the game.
You don’t know what it’s like to login and see people trash talk your own server or have a mass exodus because you’re losing by a margin we still have yet to win by. Now after being pushed down and going to the brink of destruction we made our stand to regain ground. We may not be the best, but we’re striving in great strides. I honestly think we deserve respect instead of constant harassment. But at the end of the day, I am proud of what we have accomplished in such little time.
Honestly there is no place I would rather be than fighting beside my alliance members such as; Os, TBH, Elf, War, GwJ, SoH. I’m so glad of what we have helped the server become. I have no regrets. <3
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A feature many believe is a cheap tactic is to save all supply until the end when a gate or wall goes down and repair it when an enemy is charging through. What does this exactly do? It either splits an enemy force or traps them inside of a wall allowing the defending force an extremely unfair advantage. So you are either forced to ball up and go in as one unit and die to AOE or just assume they have no supply.
I think a decent proposed counter is that when either a wall or gate goes down, the event of “Defend The Keep/Tower/Castle” effectively ends and a new event is trigger. Let’s call it “Victory Or Death” in honor of Guild Wars 1. What does this event do? It gives a bit more reward for holding it in event the ground is lost, but during this event walls and gates are unable to be repaired until the timer ends.
Example;
-Tower X’s wall goes down, defend the tower event ends as a failure
-“Defend the lord” or “Victory or Death” event is triggered, as of during this event all walls/gates can no longer be repaired in the effective area of said defended position.
-Timer X begins to count down as well. This gives the attacking force ample time to be able to enter said Tower in full force without a magical gate / wall re-spawning on top of them.
-When the timer ends, defend the tower is re-enabled and the defending party is able to repair their structures.
This is just my idea of a solution of which I am sure there are a possibility of many. Also for those whom are wondering how it would apply to a Keep/Castle it would become “Defend the outer wall / Inner wall ect” instead of just defend the tower. I hope other people would iterate on this subject as well. Only constructive criticism please.
As Guild Leader of FINE and the HOPE alliance, I apologize for the ignorance of a player from my server. You can be assured it was nobody from us, we honor the fact you are still putting up great fights every night and giving us a reason to WvWvW. I am actually now making it my goal that the person in question be found and reported. I refuse to let this happen now or ever again.
As a Guild Leader of one of the top 3 Guilds from NSP that does WvW I do apologize to Kaineng and DR for being quite relentless. I would like to give shout outs for Pain Train, FIST, and SoS from the servers for giving great fights. I am how ever saddened that apparently people think we only zerg. We have many organized guilds that actively seek out objectives as their own while not being over run with pugs.
I know the late night playing can be unfair to the average player. But I am a college student who stayed up until 5:30 AM EST to make sure AR’s foothold in EB was lost. We may not be the greatest server, but we are not meant for this bracket. I wish both servers luck in the future and hope that next time we play it is more fair. It was fun tho in EB last night, but it wasn’t nice that you 2v1’ed us from the start.
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