Guild Wars 2

Dame everyone butchered my post. Guess what I’M NOT READING YOUR REPLIES MUWHAHAHAH

You can disagree with what i say or you can plan out a way to fix it without asking Anet to do it.

Most of your like fighting or trolling. Have fun with that.

fishball.7204:

There’s a ton of threads and discontent all over the WvW forums. If they were going to do anything they would’ve done it by now. It’s been 5 weeks and nothing has been done. Their inaction speaks louder than words, they do not give a kitten.

You didn’t read everything then. They said they wont change it for months. And Honestly all the people complaining should just quit. I am able to have fun in WvW and so can you. Only reason its not fun is because we push to much (TC). If we communicated more let each sever buff up for a cupple hours then fight for stuff it would be alot more fun. Let each sever own there BL for a few hours no snipling yacks and what not so there is supply. Talk tell people which BL to be on to fight. If a sever is lacking people fight them in one spot, Say TCBL. TC has alot of people to defend so there will be fights for our stuff. After awhile when attacks stop we can agree to meet on another map were TC is now an attacker and another team defends. (will this happen not perfectly but someone could try to many pugs sorta speak )

Just because what is out now is not fun (because we ALWAYS have people on a map) does not mean you should just bla bla about it on the forums, do something to improve it, use what you are given. And if you flame this post or idea just go to another sever. TC is tier 1.5 in the old system. Kinda out of place not as good as teir 1 and better than tier 2. Complaining on the forums is what got us into this in the first place!!!

only real solution to this is Free transfers to lower WVW pop severs from the top 4 severs. Need to even out the severs so there is fun. Anet cant controll people playing in WvW. IF we take everything or break the enemies spirit its our own dang fault. Blame the bigger guilds their goal is to break the fighters spirit so in the end we have no one to fight.

If you take Anet out of the equation to fix thing only thing is left is the players. To many people moved to higher fighting severs for more WvW to the point only 2 other sever could given them a good fight.

Another possible solution. NPC fighters. Make champion or vets roamers that randomly spawn on a map that is totally controlled that take keeps and keeps them wood so ninja attempts work. Have 10-20 attack every keep and tower at once to fend off the attacks(each with 2 golems)

Another solution. Quit. The more people who quite will even out the pop in WvW.

I am not an Anet fan boy i am just realistic.

Fights have been fun and plently. Keep up the good fights people! Whoever has the most fun is the winner!!! (do to the new RNG system that is so true lol).

Its fun and EASY!!! Not extreamly kittence you get it a few times

Metion.9541:

Still happens after the fix…

What fix?

Aetherblade Retreat Dungeon:
Fixed various pathing bugs in both boss fight areas, Kleptotronic Advanced Designs and Rogue’s Landing
Added an exit to the beginning of the dungeon that leads directly back to Lion’s Arch.
Thats to prevent her from getting stuck not forgetting

Did you read the patch notes?

Luna.9640:

She is stuck and don’t move to open the door.

On top of this dungeon don’t have EXIT.

P.S. I’m not even surprised. Anet without bugs is like … w/e

You skipped a step of having her fight with you. She was not hit thus bugged out.

Not easy enuf to farm you mean magi?

The dungeon takes teamwork and skills and ability to move and self heal.

ITS GREAT!!!

CHIPS.6018:

KSQK.3485:

lensor.9684:

Yes this match-up kind of blows for morale, but I think it is important to remember that even if Kaineng finishes dead last this week, we can still gain rating points here! We are not supposed to win this matchup, in fact every point we do take is a win.

Yes it might feel overwhelming to face TC with their superior numbers and so many of our old friends fighting on their side, but it is not a useless fight by any means. It is just time to whip out the Guerrilla tactics. Take that camp. Kill those Dolyaks. Spend this week training for future matches. Don’t look too closely on the overall score, focus on accomplishing the small things, and take pride in doing that.

I have heard of some seriously awesome fights so far this match, so it is really worth while logging in, even though the overall score looks kind of lop sided.

And I hope that everyone can get over the fact that we are now facing friends in the field. No one predicted this, so let’s make the best of the hand dealt. We in Dii also lost several of our core WvW-ers to TC, but you wont see us giving up or hating on the people who opted to leave Kaineng. Nor will you see any Dii-ers “spying” on Kaineng (or on TC), everyone is just playing to have fun and experience the game the best they can.

Even so, Kaineng is still considered to be the worst WvW server because we kinda lack effective strategy dealing with zergs that greatly outnumber us, the lack of people participating in Kaineng WvW, the inability to control our own borderland (heck our kittening garrison got captured numerous times), commanders who have no kittening idea what they are doing or the priorities of controlling important locations (if the garrison or the main EB keep is captured, retaking it is the highest priority no matter what); and of course, Ajax Blue.

I’m planning to transfer away from Kaineng because Kaineng makes it really difficult to do WvW map exploration which I really need for 100% map completion for one character. And considering that Kaineng is stuck on the color red like three to four times in a row, it kinda shows how much fail Kaineng is in WvW.

Look at Vabbi before you claim Kaineng is the worst. :P

Kaineng isn’t bad. They just lack manpower. So those that do play have to carry a lot of weight on their shoulders.

KN im on TC and so far you have met us in the field and fought with us. You don’t have 5000000 AC’s defending a tower like FA. You guys have been the best fights this whole week. I look Forward to fighting yall. Points don’t REALLY matter anymore. Its mostly about having FUN!!! If you can have fun your good!

Score update
The Knights who say Noob.

Score update just shy of midnight sever time

Well TC went from Worst match up of the week to a decent one. So we need a 3rd thread QUICK MAKE ONE!!!

And it starts!!! Good luck to everyone and lets keep this Q updated

Who will win!!!

FUN FUN FUN!!!!

They would just limit it to 250 when you need more than that to buy anything good

The bought coffers are just bigger. Opening one of those is like opening 5-10 normal coffers. so you have 5-10 times more luck so .5% or 1% chance

We need to have a day of peace sorta speak. Let everyone Build up defenses and then take each other out. If we just do 100% battle each and every moment. TC will continue to take everything. IF we have a day of peace (were we know most wont agree to this but hey angles in the outfield it could happen).

JakobGW.5730:

TC:

We just took the south camp on your borderlands again. Please send more than 15 to take it this time. We would like a challenge.

Edit: 8-10 [Toon] and some [KH] just came. We wiped them. I said to bring more than 15 guys. 10 is not enough.

Post like this have a point? And our map shows us owning south supply camp. I have rejected your post and subsituted my own.

JakobGW.5730 : TC I need attention come kill me.

If anything Anet fixes to many things on the forums. Right now it ____ people complain they fix it just to make them happy, when it just makes more people mad who are not on the forums.

Right now all i see is people farming on this game. Meta events are no longer hard and are farmed. We need the dragons to have new abilities so that like AC teamwork is required. JorLag is close as it takes time to break the shild and alot of people die on it. Ditch the safe locations and that fight will make people RAGE, which in this case is good because they need to EARN the loot. Shatterer should swing his paws so that you have to stand in front of him or move once awhile. Right now most of the dragon fights are stand to the side, DPS, and Loot. When the fights were really laggy and you had to kill the invisible crystals on shatt it was FUN and HARD which made it FUN!!!

Yes people will be mad thakittens hard but whats the point of killing something easy to kill. Make some players kill one side then the other to break open the heart or something. We need a challenge so that the event can FAIL!!!! Never failing is boring.

I think TC should just stop Using Arrowcarts. That might help the odds out.

Soundchaos.3450:

Kal Spiro.9745:

Soundchaos.3450:

I think the best options I’ve seen to fix the overpopulation/guesting/lag issues are the following:

1. Overflow clones the event timers from the main map

2. Significantly reduce the time between spawns

The first suggestion would allow everyone to do the event that intended to do so. However, the lag would still remain.

The second suggestion gives players more freedom to choose when to do their chest events. It would spread the population out over multiple events instead of a mass of players trying to enter the same zone at the same time for the rarer spawns.

Neither of these would have any real impact on the issue, and could actually compound it. I will repeat myself until everyone actually understands. You don’t treat the problem, you treat the cause of the problem. The cause is the reward. Fix how the reward works and the problem goes away.

So you’re saying that if Jormag spawned every 30 or 45 minutes on every server instead of once every 3 1/2 to 4 1/2 hours we’d be getting overflow maps on every single one of those?

That’s like saying additional lanes on a highway doesn’t improve traffic flow.

The problem is a matter of perspective. Where you say the problem is the reward, many others see the problem as a lack of rewarding content in the game. Gating large populations to a single point at a very specific time is a symptom of not having enough rewarding content or having the content occur too infrequently.

Ideally, the best solution is to make more content rewarding so that players don’t feel the need to flood to the same place at the same time. Until that can be done, having the few rewarding events occur more frequently will reduce congestion just as additional lanes on a highway reduces traffic congestion.

nope Nerf the loot make it not worth it.

Instead of more spawn times why not just ask Anet to mail you loot every hour? Lets make this so easy the econmy crashes. There is a reason that dragon spawns every Blank hours. Keep guesting and everything the same keep spawning the same but nerf the loot or tell the people in overflow who waited till the last min that they are out of luck.

Second Overflow is not limited to the sever. All sever fill in the same overflow so if you have that a dragon will spawn every 2 mins!!!!

I agree Nerf the LOOT!!!!

Do to the OVERALL farming of dragons and the complaining. We need to make dragons more random make it so that you can’t know when it will spawn so it really is available to the people in the area and the guilds there in (because we know they will tell their guild its up)

The problem is not Guesting and its not Overflow size. IT’s farmability in a limited player area.

Or second idea. Nerf the loot. Less people will want to do the dragons so there will be no problem with guesting or to many locals.

Bad idea overall. overflow is not limited to on sever its all severs pushed into one giant overflow.

Your sever has more people than you think and they wall want the easy loot thats why you have an overflow.

Sever member priority is plane rude and evil. If they guesters get there sooner they want it more than you and get it. IF your not willing to wait you dont get the easy loot. The loot is limited to Blank amount of ppl aka the ones that fit in the overflow. Why not kick all the locals not attacking the dragon to get more in? Is that mean? Before the loot buff i loved killing dragons on my friends sever i was showing them the game and i wanted the loot from it to even when it was bad. On black friday people camp out, if you want the loot you should camp out.

That timer site should be taken down to solve this.

RNG the dragon timers. Make it unfarmable.

rizbliz.8579:

yes and the easy loot lag gets MUCH worse with the guesting…

So guests cause more lagg than sever locals? Please tell me your logic…

You two are funny. Guesting is not the reason you got overflow its the loot. Nerf the loot and less people will want to do the dragon and there wont be as many overflows for the dragons.

(why there is an overflow)
Guild member1 : Shatter up
Guild member 2: on my way!
Guild member 2: ahh overflow
Times this by 20-30 and you can see why there is an overflow for chests that have 99.99999% chance of giving a rare. Even if the guest was not there you still would of lost the chest because you waited till it was up or very close to up. Those who wait deserve the dragon, home sever or not those who put in the time get it. Only bannable offens is if they can loot the chest more than once by switching severs. Most people only guest because they don’t have the time to wait. They are not Farming the dragon they only loot it once. If they can loot it more than once then yes thats exploiter. The reason you are mad is because you did not get the easy loot. Most ppl on here that complain wait till 10mins till or even less and dont get in. Ive been to dragons 45 mins early (15 mins before spawn window) and its empty. So dragon farming itself is the reason for the overflow not guesting. Guesting is not helping but you should not handicap those that are guesting yes some go to far but there are those that guest to kill the dragon with friends. Why would you make them fight over which sever to do it on because only a few would get the loot.

Guesting cooldown is just mean and evil spirited to those that are not farming dragons. Thats like saying you cant join another WvW match for 4 hours or cant do another dungeon for 4 hours or another path for 4 hours to let people in.

I also love how you 100% blame guesting and only guesting. Do you see the whole flow is 100% guests? No maybe 10% are guests and thats on the high side. Its the guilds informing guilds that the dragon is up. If you wait for last min you have a lesser chance of getting in. Nerf the loot and you can it. Those that are just after the loot will go away. IF your just after the loot then get over it or go sooner.

Don’t want to wait? Then you don’t get to do it that simple.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/Guesting-merged/first

^ merged guesting topic.

pencapchew.5432:

The other issue is that most players have multiple 80’s. I have 2 80’s and I am working on a 3rd.. That gives players a chance to loot a chest multiple times in a day. Especially if they park there 80’s at all dragon/event spots.

I do not think this is a guesting problem.

I got 3 and my friend has 7 Defenity part of the problem.

I got a felling people are not reading thing and just complaining. Also the whole ruining my experance thing is BS, your after the loot get over it. It’s easy loot with a limit on how many can get in. Snooze you lose.

Tankzilla.7052:

Random guildmate “Pre event for shatterer started”
Head over there, overflow… I’ll stick around to see if I get in.

Random guildmate “Shatterer down, got 2 rares woo”
…..

Being just an ordinary mortal, working 9 hours a day, playing during “prime” time this really isn’t very fun. The past 2 days I’ve tried to catch maybe 10 dragon events, overflow 9/10 times.

The 1 time I did manage to get in was when a guildie announced the pre event just started, I hoped on the zone and got in. A mate joined some 20 sec later, overflow.

Perhaps allow people to guest with someone they are in group with, that would allow 4 quests per player. Or maybe make it so that the native population gets placed first in que and put the quests in the back of the line.

First part of your post is exactly why there are overflows. Tons of guilds are going 2 mins before shatt pre event people flood in . Shatt pre event up tons more flood in and overflow is made. Guesting or not those who wait till the last min have very little chance of getting in anymore because of the loot.

oruma.4092:

why people got friends and play on different servers, instead of transfering is beyond me

and yes guesting adds more problems to the crowded events.

myself have to guest now when i want to do shatter/jormag/tequila in a reasonable time. either guest or sit afk up to an hour in the zone so u dont get into the overflow.

some people may got the time to camp whole day all dragons, think the majority doesnt

friends on one sever with guild friends on another. Its hard to get all your friends on one sever. But a majority is not needed for the amount of people in before overflow happens to be the ones with the time.

Quote from Pirlipat.2479

I am not really sure that guests are the main factor causing an overflow, but then it’s not the normal guesting but the serverhopping to save time. So would a timer of lets say one or two or even three hours on a serverchange prevent from serverhopping while still allowing people to guest over and play together with friends an participate in them. There would be no incentive to constantly change the server and people who just want to guest wouldn’t be excluded.

This wont change anything but instead of 2 severs for guesting 1. Also with those who guest that time will fly while they wait.

quote of Hebee.8460

Krimpton.4879:

Krimpton.4879:

Im sorry but in my opinion this ’’guesting’’ idea is garbage anyway..
Think about it a moment.
As far as i understand {and please correct me if im wrong} guesting is player A {me} going to a different server to play with player B { a friend } correct ?
Well if thats right, and i as player A want to play with my friends player B………. then WHY AM I NOT ON THE SAME BLOOMING SERVER AS MY FRIEND IN THE FIRST PLACE.
since as i understand it too. only north american servers can guest with north american servers.. and only euro servers can guest with other euro servers.. correct too ?
the whole idea ’’guesting’’ is fluff…. nothing more than that. and if you want to play with a friend… go get on a server together permanently.
And don’t make the excuse of ‘’oh it costs money to transfer servers’’ it was free for 6 months.
Anyway rant over apart from saying……….. ’’GET OFF MY LAWN YOU PESKY KIDS.! :P

Considering u can buy a transfer with ingame gold, it kinda makes guesting pointless.
I’m up for tossing guesting.

You’r up for tossing guesting because you don’t use it for what its really for. I use it almost daily to hang out with my friends on Different sever but my main guild is on TC and yea. Lets toss the Trading post to because it causes people to farm locations so i cant kill the mob i want to!!! or take up spots in WvW to FARM!!!! see i can make bad rage filled sujestions to!

Bry.8140:

Desolation Server

It comes to something when we are getting booted onto an overflow server for events/dragons etc and as a result miss them.

I have no doubt this is caused by guesting, so my point here is why are player from desolation getting stiffed onto an overflow while guests can quite happily play on the main server and get their events/dragons done for a second time in the space of 24hrs?

Would love a response from ANet on this one please

Cheers

I have doubts you have any idea whats really going on. All of your sever wants to kill this dragon All of your sever is swarming that zone. Yes some ppl outside of your sever are getting in while some of your sever is in overflow but that happens. If you get mad at it then that is your own fault for not going ahead of time. 3 million people between say 12 severs or 17 severs. thats ALOT of people one each sever. The overflow is not just from guesting. Yes guesting does not help but it really does not harm the situation eather. World loot is that First come First sever Home sever does not get a bonus nor a “right” to it. Its to the ones who REALLY want it. Those who are willing to guest and suffer the constant insults and straight up racist (sever based racism) comments must want it more than you. And with the Nerf to Ectos from rare this is not the best way to get loot anymore so less will be coming once people notice after salveging 10 rares you get 1 ecto.

Excell.1042:

Yesterday me and my guild did a guild bounty, our first bounty went pretty well ((We had the guy down in about 3 minutes)) then we needed to kill some other bounty in Sparkfly Fen, during this time however, Tequatl popped up, and as you can imagine many of us ((If not all but one)) were sent off into the overflow.

This is not the only problem I have with overflows, it’s getting out of hand lately, every worldboss is getting swarmed with players FROM OTHER SERVERS, causing people of the actual server to get into an overflow, this is not a post on “OMFG stop guesting nub”, rather, this is a question as to if something will happen? ((As right now, guild bounties are a matter of luck on which boss you get, and if you want to kill a dragon, you’ll have to stand in the zone it’s in, AFK, for half an hour))

Is it actually ruining the game for us who dont play cross server?

If you right click someones picture who is in the overflow you could of joined that overflow and killed it.

Sahfur.5612:

I just want something done to stop the leeching parasites.

My server shouldn’t have to subsidize their farming when they have a perfectly good server with less traffic they could be doing it on instead.

Dude you have the Highest pop sever. You know everyone is telling their guild Blank is about to spawn and all flood the area. Even without guesting it would be a big pain.

Sahfur.5612:

Remove the ability to get chests from non homeworld servers. PLEASE.

I literally hate any person who is on Jade Quarry who is guesting recently because the droves of mindless sheep are running around like ants and ruining the actual server occupants ability to enjoy the events.

-ALL I WANTED WAS A FINAL REST TO GIVE TO SOMEONE I KNOW WHO WANTS IT-

No, I can’t get them the final rest unless I go and farm for days because these leeches, these schools of hive minded fish have to ruin it for everyone else.

If you are going to farm JQ constantly, use the gold to transfer here. Help us in wvw if you are going to leech off of our chests.

They sicken me as of late, and I wanted a united community. Thats what was advertised.

They even overpopulated an event so badly last night that it crashed the ENTIRE GAME for a few minutes. ALL SERVERS.

Between wvw, chest guesting and etc.
I’d like it to go back to how it was where I would feel happy when I saw another player.
Now I just die a bit inside when I see them. I’d like them to just log off.

They have become competition for resources: The ability to do practically any event on my server and get the chest.
I end up on an overflow even if I go in 30 minutes early.

Remember the whole object of the game? Missed it.

Another solution would be to kick them out of the map into overflow when a server resident wants to enter the map.
They shouldn’t be getting slots that people who are not guested don’t have.

PLEASE make these people stick to their own servers when going after dragon chests and similar. They should have to do it on their own server due to the nature of the event. It would spread all this out and help with server load.

Go check your LA. You may notice that its not an overflow. So were are these people? They are waiting for the dragons to spawn.

You want Anet to change a game aspect because you don’t want to wait for the dragon to spawn. If you are not willing to wait 40 mins you don’t get the chest.

Just wait for Final Rest to go down in price. You know its happening Day 1 it was over 100g now its barley 18 gold.

<—- Guests to Jade Quarry to hang out with firends

Why dont you just guest to? You may see it from different eyes when you see that guests are in the overflow to!

All your solutions would KILL guesting. Guesting is to let you have funwith firends. Some want to kill dragons together. People would fight over which sever to do it on because one wouldnt get loot and that wouldnt be far. But you dont care because you don’t guest. Nerf the loot and this whole problem goes away.

Edge.4180:

Sashi.9436:

Edge.4180:

Karizee.8076:

Let’s do some simple math.
3 million players, 51 servers, boss that drops fat loot in zone that holds less than 500 people…..

Guesting is not the issue here.

It would be ridiculous to suggest that guesting isn’t, at the very least, making the problem worse than it would otherwise be.

I mean, if you want to be simple let’s be simple. People are complaining that they can’t participate in events on their home server without being pushed to overflow. Meanwhile, there are people at those events on said home server who are guests. Those are spots being taken up, which means more home residents getting pushed to overflow, which means more people on here complaining about it.

That’s pretty simple.

Ok go get some air and read this.

Guesting adds very few to the boss fight. The reason you are in overflow is because ALOT of people are there. If guesting was off you would still get in overflow because you waited till the boss was up to teleport in. People who wait get the loot. People who don’t often don’t. Yes Guesting takes a few spots away but if your not willing to wait for it your not worthy of the spot.

Some of you are acting like it’s difficult to see the problem in action. It’s not. When you’re at an event and some of your friends are stuck in overflow, and you put forth the question in chat “how many of you here are guesting to this server/event?” and more than half of the people present respond “me” … it’s pretty obvious where a lot of the potential slots for full-time residents are going.

This isn’t rocket science. Instead of speculating here on the forum, start investigating out there in the game.

As i have. Question do you know what a Troll is? People Lie. I’ve seen people Change their guild and say that just to get a reaction out of people. Its not Rocket science to see that there are ALOT of people at the dragon and ALOT more in the overflows. (yes Overflows seeing as more than one is made during peak hours)

If they really wanted that spot they would of gotten to the fight sooner. If they really wanted the spot they would of gotten there before the guesters who tend to come near the start of the fight.

You are complaining because someone got there first and was willing to wait. If you wait people will slowly stop going to the events. Guesting will get new rules because to many people complain. I’m on TC and had an overflow over an hour before Shadow fight.

New question if the Loot was back to normal would you be at the fight? Often answer to this question is NO. Your are after easy loot and because you waited till the last min or nearly the last min you feel entitled to a spot because its your home sever. Next you will get mad because a Tourist took your fav chair at the bar. The people who get into the fights Often are the ones willing to wait. As you have said you gotten into fights to ask that question so i would guess you are one of the people who inform their guild that the boss is about to spawn or the pre-event is up. Maybe 5-20 of your guild show up for the fight. Times that by how many different guilds there are and you will see an overflow. Guesting yes Takes some spots in the fight but they EARNED the spot.

PS you can guest to If you don’t get into your fight go get another one.

I don’t know about everyone else but the Lag for me is gone. Now people are just Mad they are getting in the overflow and somehow imagen that if guesting was not in the game they would get into the fight. They don’t comprehend that their are so many people in the overflow most of them would of gotten in first and they still would be in the overflow.

Early Bird get the Dragon Chest

pulsecodesgnl.3470:

Alright, first off, let’s get to the root of the problem. The problem is not that loot is better, nor that there is guesting, nor that you can get chests on alts.

The problem is the timers.

You should be incentivized for exploring the world, and coming upon those events. Being in guilds that can call them out when they are seen. You shouldn’t be relying on a third party website that tracks the times, lets everyone come in and camp waiting for the event. What ideally should be done, is make those timers more random so those sites are invalid, and people aren’t timing out those events so the mass populus doesn’t converge at the exact same time.

If the timers were gone, the problem of extreme server lag would be as well, because it would require slightly more effort that most people aren’t willing to put the time investment in for, and beyond that it would make it more rewarding to get to the event.

edit: Also, don’t be dumb, this isn’t “exploiting”, stop trying to reinvent terms to demonize people.

I agree if there was a window of 3 hour, less people would be willing to wait and it will be more of a chance meaning only people with guild members on the map will get the dragon. More luck than math.

Edge.4180:

Karizee.8076:

Let’s do some simple math.
3 million players, 51 servers, boss that drops fat loot in zone that holds less than 500 people…..

Guesting is not the issue here.

It would be ridiculous to suggest that guesting isn’t, at the very least, making the problem worse than it would otherwise be.

I mean, if you want to be simple let’s be simple. People are complaining that they can’t participate in events on their home server without being pushed to overflow. Meanwhile, there are people at those events on said home server who are guests. Those are spots being taken up, which means more home residents getting pushed to overflow, which means more people on here complaining about it.

That’s pretty simple.

Ok go get some air and read this.

Guesting adds very few to the boss fight. The reason you are in overflow is because ALOT of people are there. If guesting was off you would still get in overflow because you waited till the boss was up to teleport in. People who wait get the loot. People who don’t often don’t. Yes Guesting takes a few spots away but if your not willing to wait for it your not worthy of the spot.

For those that want to Spawn the dragon in overflow that cant happen. Overflow is open to ALL severs. Every sever does not get its own overflow. So it just wouldn’t work.
Only Real fix to this is to Nerf the chests back to normal. Keep QQing and thats what will happen.

Karizee.8076:

Let’s do some simple math.
3 million players, 51 servers, boss that drops fat loot in zone that holds less than 500 people…..

Guesting is not the issue here.

Yet there are like 20 new topics blaming guesting.

Pinko.2076:

Mag is a pretty friendly server so I don’t know why we get a bad rep! We are also honest, so I guess that’s a negative.

Honestly most of the people on the forums are the look at my shiny stick type. They like to burn other peoples stick to make their stick look better when everyone has the same stick. (to make this clear a stick from a tree not the perverted stick) Each sever has the people who can take on 5 times their numbers and those that cant take out a person with 5 people. Some are nice but people come to the forums to rub things in peoples faces.

The Good fight we totally owned you type. Trying to be nice but came to say HAHA we owned you!!!

Amadan.9451:

your reasoning was pretty clear. but most of people in this forum like blame, guilty and unhappiness at all cost. imo they need to complain about everything or they die without a crusade to fight.
there are classic complain ie. no mount no fun, female toons have to fight in bikini, fix my class nerf the thief etc, and flavor of the patch complains ie. fractal of the mists is the end of the world, dailies are impossible to complete. laurels are a crap currency, and now loot boost is ruining all life in the planet, foreigner from other server are stealing our jobs and marrying our wives.

Agreed I just want people to put blame were blame is due. Its annoying seeing people blame Blank for Blank when blank has nothing or very little to do with blank.

Amadan.9451:

doesn’t come to mind that being in an high populated server could means that its own population can cause overflow? if it happened in LA each time there was a festival event, why shouldn’t happen each time a dragon spawn these days?
what the guesting have to do with all this?

Thats the thing i’m trying to tell the people who are currently complaing about on the fourms and in mapchat. They think Guesting is the problem when it isn’t its just one of the many reason they got into an overflow for waiting last min. Im not the best at getting my point across because of my disabilities. But if i understand it other should be able to.

Even in what we consider Low pop which is still high. If everyone tries to get into the area an overflow will happen.

Heijincks.9267:

Make guesting invite only from a friend in the server you want to guest. That solves most of the problems and doesn’t take away any intended functionality.

Any leftover lag afterwards cannot be blamed on guesting, which would mean it’s solely based on server capacity and as such implies a needed upgrade. This includes the overflow problem (which might be solved if the overflow was simply “cloned” from the map originally meant to be entered).

Yup its a good idea XD mind if i add it to the ones i listed?

If you wait till the last min when the boss is summoned the yes your out of luck. It has NOTHING to do with guesting. Stop being Lazy and get the early. Don’t wait for a guild member to say its up or a timer site to say that. Early Bird get the chest.

The overflow problem is you and people who act like you. People tell their guilds Blank is up and everyone floods in. Overflows will still happen weather or not there is guesting. Ive seen people stuck in muiltiple overflows. Because everyone is rushing to the boss that just spawned instead of waiting for it.

As for the lagg its the pure amount of people in the fight. If those ppl in the overflow were in the flow and attacked it the same lagg will be there. So blaming lag on guesting is like blaming ugly on a house.

Most common Arguments
C for complaint R for Reply

C: Well without guesting more locals can get in.
R: They waited to the last min and would of gotten in overflow with the amount of people streaming in such that often 2 overflows are made. If they came a simple ten mins before the window or pre-event they would of gotten in. This is like missing the buss because you left on when you saw it already rolling down the street.

C: Guesters cause lag
R: So do you and every local there.

C: Guesters shouldnt be in our flow
R: then whats the point of guesting. Guesting is there so you can play with friends on other severs and do events on other severs. With an overflow you wont be able to kill Big Bosses without help.

C: Anet should up the limit before overflow
R: So you want to crass as the dragon lands…. More people equals more lag to the point you wont even be able to attack him half the time for the WHOLE fight.

C: Anet should Nerf the amount of people in a zone before overflow
R: Good idea.. That will decrease the lag and increase the people who cant fight it because they waited to long. But that has nothing to do with guesting. Just attendance

C: Well i don’t have 2 hours to wait for a dragon
R: Then wait 10 mins before the pre-event. Or wait till the complaining causes Anet to Nerf the loot so the dragons go back to being not worth your time.

How to Fix this lag issue:
1: Nerf the amount of people in the area before Overflow
(less lagg more QQ)
2: Nerf Loot back to what it was
(more QQ because no 100% rare)
3: Upgrade severs to handle more
(honestly don’t know if this will fix the problem but might help but is unlikely)
4:

Make guesting invite only from a friend in the server you want to guest. That solves most of the problems and doesn’t take away any intended functionality.

Any leftover lag afterwards cannot be blamed on guesting, which would mean it’s solely based on server capacity and as such implies a needed upgrade. This includes the overflow problem (which might be solved if the overflow was simply “cloned” from the map originally meant to be entered).

Ok to keep this simple yes i’m mentally kitten so if you attempt to correct my spelling you or insult me for it go ahead knowing I am mentally kitten

Right now Guesting is being a scapegoat to those who want something easy to blame. It is also being blamed by the lazy.

Right now it is come to my attention that many people are not thinking clearly. For now i can’t blame them for that because that’s how they are. Guesting and dragons lag has nothing to do with each other. The Dragon Lag is Sever based lag do to the mass amount of people in one zone attacking one creature. The system has a hard time keeping up as you can tell as the dragon’s attacks and timing don’t match up. In example Shadow B standing up as the portals spawn. This problem is to do with the amount of people in the area which, as you know causes some people to go to overflow.

So here comes in the Guesting part.:
Yes in each map and on each sever there are SOME people guesting and sometimes there are not. I would say on average about 10 people guest during a dragon fight. I even Guest from time to time to get my dragon kills in for the loot. But please know Guesting has been in the game LONGER than last patch. Which patch i do not remember at this time. But what i do remember is that there was no lag. So when you mention that there was no lag before guesting you are wrong. Stop it that’s like saying if i pay $200 dollars more for the same exact thing mines is better. Its wrong and idiotic.

So what is the REAL REASON for the lagg?:
The real reason behind the lag which will still be there is the new loot buff that all (but the volcano boss) got this last patch. Do to this more and more people want to kill the dragons to get the chests because it has a 100% chance at a rare and maybe a exotic. So people in guilds wait at the dragons and say _______ is up {waypoint} people click this waypoint and come in and most of the time get in an overflow. This will happen with or without guesting as each person tries to kill each dragon on each of their lvl 80’s

So what can we blame Guesting on?
The only blame Guesting can get is that fewer sever locals can get into the dragon fight. But this is minimal as the guester took the time to wait for the dragon as the other member waiting for another person to tell them that it was up and wouldn’t be any the wiser if they were not told by a guild member that it was up.

What can you do to get into a dragon fight?:
Get there early. The early bird gets the worm. Use classes that have pets, turrents, elementals or special aiblities like Turret pod (silvarey), war-band, theifs guild, basically any attack that attacks on its own(aka NPC attacking). (ghost-fire wolf for those who have it). Also note just because you don’t see your toon attacking or white numbers does not mean that it is not attacking. Look for signs that the attack has gone off like theifs losing the dots.

Reason for this post. Anet (no offence) has a terrible tenancy to listen to people who complain because they are no longer the top dog in say PVP or WvWvW. So this post is to inform the general public that blaming guesting wont fix the issue beside the fact that everyone is complaining about it. The Real problem of to many people attacking on target because of easy loot has been established. Also people have been verbally attacking people who guest “Guester should burn in the deepest pits of hell” is one of the many i’ve seen. This should be a reportable offence and the people who say it should be banned for three days. Yes this is extream but so is what they are saying.

For those that reply i ask that you keep this civil.

~TC local

Im on Tarnished Coast btw. Byt yea im still getting this error today as are my friends

I did that and it came back. Was talking to an Anet inside the game told me to post here. When i got back in it worked till i wanted to buy something then failed. Relogged and Bam Error was back.

Me and other members of my guild have all been having problems with the TC. The Error that comes up is the Error: Invalid Authorization. Other people have been able to get into the TC and buy stuff and earlier today i was able to. Now i can’t get into it. AT one point I got in but was not able to buy anything and got an Firewall error (note its not an Firewall Error I was in Game and saw the listen item but not the listed buy or sale orders just average price).

So does anyone know for sure?

I already had the set before i was told that(cheaper than the rune when i got it). Maybe the SHOULD reskin it to something special.