Guild Wars 2

chibbi.3706:

To everyone saying abjured didn’t win cuz double ele but cuz they outrotated etc.

The fact that they had double ele helps A LOT to outrotate the enemy team. When a class is so mobile, while being impossible to fight 1v1 and can sustain a 1v2 on point for a while and still disengage after that, and when you have 2 of that, of course you’re gonna outrotate the opponent.

I said something similar in that ele being so strong and having 2 gives such a large built in advantage is something people don’t understand, or don’t want to admit.

I wish more people would just open their fan boy eyes to see what you wrote as being pretty truthful. : /

Sunshine.5014:

oRNG lost to the Abjured both mechanically and rotation-wise.

Also, now people in EU can shut up saying “NA has no competitive scene and that’s why the Abjured keeps winning”

The fact is they are strong, and that’s why they win.

Also, the the complaint about Ele is getting old. Phantaram had been playing Ele when it was the bottom tier (and still won). They are just good at their classes. oRNG played like pugs on front of the Abjured.

Abjured win because there is no one on NA to compete. How is that in any way hard to grasp, lol?

The Abjured ARE good, but the rest of NAs top scene is just terrible in comparison.

Wow, what an absolute care bear.

PvE gets far more content and items/skins than PvP ever has.

Stop being so entitled to everything.

SchmendrickTheMagician.8247:

Shadowrainer.8321:

TheFamster.7806:

Wait if cele eles were so op then why not run with 5 cele eles and just face roll? Oh yeah the abjured only won because of the build, then you should be beating them with even more op/cheesy builds right?

The “well if X class is so OP why don’t peope run 5 of them?!” comments shows peoples low understanding and knowledge of this game. It doesn’t work like that what so ever.

pls..

Exactly the same can be said for people who whine “of course the team with 2 eles won”. No, they won because they clearly had the better tactics and rotations, plus their thief was simply beyond amazing.

ORNG used 2 guardians an won over everyone besides Abjured, so Guardians OP?

pls…

The double ele 100% contributed to winning, it’s not the reason they won, but it probably played more of a role than people like to admit.

Watch how long they simply tanked outnumbered fights, consitantly through out.

That is just huge.

And 2 guardians won so it’s op? I know you’re not saying that it is, but the difference is 2 eles IS stupidly strong. You just can’t compare.

The real resaon oRNG lost though is because they played very poorly.

There is a difference between being outplayed and just playing bad, which no one understands.

We all know this is likely to end up working so poorly. Which will cause it to be scrapped, remade, and reintroduced 2 more times through HoTs life.

Then in expac 2 they introduce another PvP infrastructure.

I don’t want to be ‘that guy’ but I think we’ve seen enough on how the devlopment side of PvP operates.

Please prove me wrong anet, can you fix it once and for all? Please?

TheFamster.7806:

Wait if cele eles were so op then why not run with 5 cele eles and just face roll? Oh yeah the abjured only won because of the build, then you should be beating them with even more op/cheesy builds right?

The “well if X class is so OP why don’t peope run 5 of them?!” comments shows peoples low understanding and knowledge of this game. It doesn’t work like that what so ever.

pls..

vangedas.7358:

Why does this EU NA thing matter so much? People are not even enjoying the games but only hating on opposing continent.. I don’t get it.

Anyway, the first few games were amazing to watch, too bad oRNG lost it in the finals. GGs.

People seem to like to take pride in accomplishments they have literally 0 input in, makes them feel ‘special’ that they was born on the same soil as people who can achieve things they can’t.

This breeds fanboyism, which fuels petty hate aimed at the other lands fanboys.

Fanboyism in a nutshell. Pride is an ugly thing, especially when you’re taking pride in work you’ve not influenced.

Abjured played well, I give them that.

But watching those eles sustain outnumbered for so long was just so incredably…saddening?

I really don’t blame oRNG losing motivation or morale or what ever during it. I’d have fallen asleep playing against that necro and double cele ele.

But what was with them just leaving nodes open 24/7? Even if double ele is cancer to try and beat off node they didn’t even bother to check their nodes, let alone bother to defend them.

It’s not just the playerbase, I also presume they are going to keep the existing que system.

So I could que solo in my league, and get smashed by a premade? So I go down in my league because of it? That’s still going to be a problem. :/

Do we even have enough players to even support a healthy league system? xD

This is probably going to end up as a fail lol

Seeming I have literally no idea about game creation and things of that nature.

Can anyone who has knowledge of this tell me how difficult it actually is to re-do the kits aethetics, so fixing the bombkit animations, and reskinning the elixer gun and the bombkit and mortar kit? I can’t see it being hard despite no experience with anything like this.

Also the mortar kit blind field. It says BURNS BRIGHTLY at the location, yet the skill animation is like a little bit of smoke.

Can we get a PROPER rework of all this please? And not some 5 minute job in your lunch break.

EDIT: Also, still no legendary auras and footfalls whilst using a kit. : /

VaLee.5102:

If increased HP is challenging content for you, then I hope Anet won’t listen to people like you when they design the “challenging content” for HoT.

+1, totally agree.

Since when is massive HP sponges with the only real hard thing about it being the annoying logistics of getting people on the same map or getting people in the right place ‘challenging content’

How is Teq in anyway ‘hardcore’ x)

NoTrigger.8396:

CGC wont dictate how often you have to play, your guild will. so its not a content problem.

Yeh you are right. But it feels like you’re missing the point I was trying to make with my concern.

What if the content has a mechanic to it that requires several evenings a week devoted to getting through it reasonably.

Or if it has artifical difficulty barrier that it does take a few weeks to it in order to progress, aka raid style, instead of getting loot drops to raise an item level to be able to soldier on through you instead get masteries which effectively mimic getting a higher item level.

I for one don’t see why they don’t add a super hard mode version of their story instances they released pretty often through LS for example.

I’m sure this has been mentioned, but is anyone else a tiny little bit paranoid that this could potentially put people who are more serious about PvE onto a schedule?

Doing guild missions once a week is ok, and it’s not exactly a requirement to do to progress in any real way (Sorry if mistaken not done any GM in a very long time)

But god forbid if I have to log on 3 nights a week, at XX:YY time to do the new content, in the form of raids or what ever it might be.

CGC is fine, I want it but not if it means playing it on a static shedule.

I very much doubt this will be the case given how much of a casual friendly this game is overall but I’d be lying if I said I wasn’t a little concerned about it.

I did the whole 3 nights a week raiding in WoW for a long time, please don’t make me go back to that.

tl;dr: I’m paranoid, and no weekly static shedulerino pls for the CGC

The meta for engineer in PvP might not be celestial anymore. With the stat nerf on the celestial ammulet with the way conditon damage will now scale, your conditions will do less than they do now.

And due to how good some of the other trait lines potentially are now aswell, we might not be going after incendary powder, and like I said due to how condi on cele will do even less even without a cele nerf the attractiveness of IP takes a pretty large hit I do think.

Engineer with a rifle will most likely be shifting towards a much larger power based build, it could be soldier amulet. Top engineers such as Backpack also believe this is a potential too.

I would also really like this x)

You can still port back mid air, you just can’t double tap the skill mid air, it stops you from being able to survive any fall because you could double tap it just before impact.

Anyone got any more? D :

Well crap, looks like rT is off the table for me then. ; (

bladex.9502:

Shadowrainer.8321:

Zelyhn Lekovitch.2867:

Shadowrainer.8321:

Anyone got anymore suggestions? Q_Q

rT

Also, SC is kinda decent, if you stick around the glorious French members.

I’d imagne SC and rT has pretty rough trials though right? xD

Every high end PvE guild has pretty rough trails, it wouldn’t be a high end guild otherwise

Oh yeh I get that, I just assumed that SC and rT would be on the harder side of things compared to the others.

Zelyhn Lekovitch.2867:

Shadowrainer.8321:

Anyone got anymore suggestions? Q_Q

rT

Also, SC is kinda decent, if you stick around the glorious French members.

I’d imagne SC and rT has pretty rough trials though right? xD

Anyone got anymore suggestions? Q_Q

rotten.9753:

What the kitten is with all those “xX” tags? Can anyone explain?

I would also like to know x)

Hi, I was wondering if any one has some quick recommendations for any english speaking high end EU guilds, the lfg section of the forums isn’t so great.

Thanks

What is there to say? Yeh it’s fresh.

But I already want to stop PvPing. I’ve been in so many one sided matchs, 500-10. 500-100 so on, it’s nice to see more people PvPing, but it’s come at a nasty price. Soloq is just flooded with new people and it’s quite frustrating to be that one unlucky guy that gets put on the team with the most new players, to only get steam rolled.

And the class balance? Just seems to be the same old same old, absolutely skill less aoe condition spam all over the place, almost makes me wish Lyssa wasn’t nerfed, but that’s probably me just not being used to such a good on demand full cleanse now but still.

Just a bit sad really and needed somewhere to vent. <_<

When I first seen a legendary was a 1st place reward, I was like what? Seriously? How over the top!

But then I realized how many hours people like 55 HP monks, Cheese Mode players (RIP), or the rank 70 players, who have dumped thousands of hours into the game, with no major shiny to gloat about except a finisher…wow.

MEANWHILE! Jimmy the Warrior who farmed the most utterly braindead content, that required absolutely no skill, effort, or pre-thought to it walks around in multiple gear sets, multiple legendaries with half of the total played time of the sort of people who actually stand a chance of wining this tournament.

I don’t want to be “that guy” but the high end PvP requires far more effort, and skill than standing in a corner slapping an npc.