Guild Wars 2

zapv.8051:

You can LOS on most maps, ranged builds won’t be that big of a problem. No one runs p/p or p/d thief in pvp. Guards will still mostly be melee, as will thieves.

You say that, but I see an alarming amount of thieves running p/p…
Free kill!

Ezeriel.9574:

Adaletta.3426:

@ezeriel.9574
so you mean the Necro like it is now will be better for pvp then the elite Spec?

it’s looking like it.

The GS is god-awful slow, and the reaper is melee…. the only melee classes in this game that are successful have large amounts of gap closers.

A guard with his GS leap, meditation teleport, sword teleport….
A warrior with sword/warhorn and GS charge…

Even now, a melee necro relies on DS/lich for range.

Who says by taking the Reaper line you HAVE to be melee with greatsword? I’ve theorycrafted a build that basically acts like current condi-mancer, uses Staff and Scepter/Dagger- specced into Soul Reaping, Curses and Reaper.

My blinds will inflict chill, my fears will inflict chill, and my chill and fear will inflict damage. Current DS isn’t exactly fantastic on condi-mancer.. but I actually feel Shroud Knight will perform admirably. You can use the ranged chills + fear (which doubles as chill) to close the gap, or your ranged blind from dagger 4- and once in melee range hop into Shroud Knight and auto attacks will inflict burning, your #3 skill can be detonated to aoe fear for terror + chill ticks, the #2 “Necrocopter” ability will convert boons to conditions….
Alternatively, if you aren’t the aggressive “close on them type”, just hang at range and drop conditions on them- and when they close on YOU drop into Shroud Knight and give them a nasty surprise with even more conditions. You can use Necrocopter as an escape if you like.

Edit: You also seem to be forgetting not all gap closers are leaps or teleports- even a power reaper in theory shouldn’t have TOO large an issue closing, due to ranged access to chill, spectral grasp (which can have a seriously decent cooldown), etc.

Sir William PD.9615:

Bridge the gap? WTF are you talking about Shira? This is a WvWvW game, there are no gaps to bridge. We log in, we fight the other servers and we log out. This isn’t Shadowbane were politics were at play. There isn’t anything to gain from “bridging a gap”. There are no peace treaties or alliances in this game, despite what the conspiracy theorists say. Guilds shouldn’t have members on both servers as it’s counterproductive to how the game is supposed to be played.

I’m glad you found a server that suits your play style and needs. I hope that you fit that community better than you did the FA one.

Somebody has missed the point entirely. The whole game does not revolve around WvW. This is not to bridge the gap in WvW.
If “Guilds shouldn’t have members on both servers as it’s counterproductive to how the game is supposed to be played”, then they wouldn’t ALLOW guilds to have members on more than one server.
There is more than one aspect to this game than WvW.

There IS in fact a lot to gain by bridging a gap. Perhaps the second part of the post was put in the wrong place, but since it pertained to the animosity between our servers there was also justification.
A lot of people (some on FA as well, not just TC) are sick of the constant bickering and name calling between us. So Shira is keeping his guild on both servers as sort of a halfway point. People who enjoy RP on FA can chat with likeminded folks, etc.

Shira even stated there would be no discussion of WvW in the guild, its not about “spying” or any immature rubbish like that. ( It would, however, allow us to line up duels quite nicely I suppose )

(Edited coz i broke my quote )

Setsunayaki.4907:

This has to do with the current WvW matchup…

@FA

Please do not message me in-game claiming that my members are TC spies.

We have decided the guild will have an FA section and a TC section. The time has come to put this bickering aside as the TC section is more WvW oriented while the FA section is more Roleplaying/Story Oriented (with some WvW players).

In short, the sections are the opposite of the “declarations” of what each server represents. I was not going to ask those members in our FA side to leave, as we have been together for a long time and we know each other by real name and we are people first.

We aren’t letting our choice of servers tear us apart!

I don’t care who started the squabbles between both servers, but I am going to use the guild as a symbol to bridge the gap between servers and we will be doing WvW events as well as projects.

We have very strict rules as to how WvW communication can be used. Outside of Party Chat (if a party made of members of both sections exist), no information can be relayed about the status of position movements and commanders. Information can not leave the party chat. A mixed party will have its own private room on our raidcall room. Such information can not leave the room.

This is to keep the match fair.
I will not win at WvW using what I morally define as cheating in a video game.

I find both servers really need a guild like this…and as I’ve lived on Kaineng, FA and now TC…I should eventually know the three servers pretty well.

I was discussing this with Shira earlier, I believe this is a good way to bridge a piece of the gap. I joined up with [DAZE] so I can get to know some FA players in a friendly environment, make some new friends, and have a laugh about past crossings etc. If it goes well, I hope it will be a step in the right direction to toning down the animosity, at least for a few of us. (Guild chat was extremely pleasant despite a very thorough TC/FA mix of players- so hey look, we CAN get along!)
However once I’m in WvW my [PiNK] tag is on and communication with FA ceases so as to keep the match fair, as stated.

( Edit: I hope to guest across soon to get some RP running with the FA bound members of [DAZE] )

Chaba.5410:

Shera,

Fort Aspenwood was considered a PvP server since before the game was released due to it’s Guild Wars 1 namesake. It’s not exactly “self-titled”.

In actual fact, I refer to that as self titled. As the server does not have a “PvP” tag next to it’s name in world selection, it is considered self titled. Also in the way FA advertises for potential transfers.

But that is neither here nor there Either way, it is considered a PvP server and still fits in to what I said.

Andy.9137:

Setsunayaki.4907:

To those at TC

Thank you for the warm welcome and everything so far.

~Shira Rae

I don’t understand why this post was necessary. All it has does is sparked drama, again. This matchup thread was doing wonderfully.

TBH the thread went to heck a while before this, with “hackusations” and other such nonsense.

COMPLETELY unrelated to Shira’s post, though:

All the bitterness between FA and TC was set to happen right from the moment the servers self titled themselves the PvP and RP servers respectively.
These two server types have a long history of disagreement with each other, with PvP servers saying RPers are all geeks- whilst RPers saying PvP servers are “full of kitten strokers”.

NOT what EVERY one on these servers says, but history IS full of it.

The problem with the self titled server types is, however, that not ALL of GW2’s RPers are on TC, and clearly not all the PvPers are on FA. So with select players on FA putting down RP as a whole, they are insulting players from their own server (I actually had some great RP after a Jormag kill on FA), and select TCers saying FA’s PvP “all i want is kills” mentality is stupid… well, I know a fair few people on TC who are the same.

I do not harbor any particular hatred towards FA as a whole- I have a few hard feelings towards a couple of individuals based on their own statements, but that is THEIR opinions and I don’t delude myself into thinking it to be the opinion of the whole server.

Tl;DR- We’re all here to enjoy the game. Everyone enjoys the game their own way.
If some like to RP, fantastic.
If some like to slay dragons and obtain the “shiniest loot”, awesome.
If some like to chase everyone to their deaths, cool.
Some even enjoy all three! So enjoy the game how you want, let others do the same.

Setsunayaki.4907:

Been a good start to a match up so far….

First thing is first!

Kaineng, you were my first home…Where I started. Thanks for catching up and not giving everyone else a heart attack. I like the integrity of Tier 2 to stay intact with three servers that can kill each other in a three way. So yeah, I would like to see RISE, WM and the guilds I’ve seen in KN fight! Please stick together and if you feel like burnout is coming, just take a break and organize. I do like fighting against you and am glad my first home, although changed is doing ok.

FA, you were my fifth home and quite a deceptive one at that. The more you spoke against TC, the more I wanted to see just how “Evil” TC was. It turned out that they have been so far the friendliest server I’ve come across this game. Not once did I ever see a TC player holding a banner saying “Kill All FA, they slaughtered our Yak Parade” and we did not receive a “Oh you’re FA, we don’t want you here” mentality upon joining…

You speak of maturity, yet you (FA) have involved others in your squabbles (the IoJ transfers into FA, along with anyone else…) acting like everyone should consider TC to be the fourth Reich, while considering anything that top FA guilds state as the Holy Grail and Truth…..

Ah and to those who still have some respect for me in FA:

“Thank you for everything. It was fun and it would be nice to see you in the battlefield as opponents, then we can whisper-chat about it. I’d like to see some of you at the kaineng dueling spot too. You were not evil, but my only tiny complaint is that while you told me the large guilds are eating FA out of their integrity, you didn’t do anything about it either. You represented FA on the battlefield, but let everything else get consumed. Never forget that your home is FA and if you can’t make it a better place, it is doomed to a miserable experience for others.

For better or for worse, I enjoyed running with Purple Dragons, Deep Penetrations, Armored Fist and Primordial Dragons (when they lived), as well as the many many small guilds we met on the field. FLOT was one of my favorites.

I hope to see you on the battlefield as my best friends followed the shooter mentality of killing each other and then talking about the great kills and fights we made against each other, all night long.

@TC, my new home….

You have been really friendly so far. I hope it lasts and I hope I can help. I’ve gone through life with many throwing friendly fronts at me that it takes time for me to trust others. I really like what I see in the server and I have not seen friendliness and kindness at that level in a really really really long time throughout this game.

While some FA guilds were kind in some time zones, there is a more unified kindness/friendliness pouring out of TC that makes things fun and more interesting.

To those at Kaineng….
Keep on playing and stay together…

To those at FA
Speak up and be heard. You deserve to be treated a lot better than you are being treated now. I hope we can kill each other and then chat about it.

To those at TC

Thank you for the warm welcome and everything so far.

~Shira Rae

Welcome again, Shira! Glad to have you here, it’s great that you feel at home on TC. Hoping to run a party with you soon in WvW

WyldKat.4712:

Is “mega zerg balls” balls balls or balls ballista? TC whipped out like 20 of them in a line Sunday. It was shocking to see that many woody shafts aimed at us.

We may have overdone it a little. We only had 17 at our highest point, though :P
We enjoyed farming raptors with the occasional FA poking their head up from behind a rock to receive 3-7 ballista shafts

Rollinpapers.7312:

The SMC battle was really epic, big shout out to KA not giving up after a few wipes, you guys kept coming and in huge numbers. Shows that you have a dedicated force. And a big shout out to my TC army who stood your ground and kept following me into hell, you guys were amazing.

“Hold it til the tick then we’re outta here”.
Three ticks later, we’re still holed up in the center of the lords room
Great fight Kaineng, big props to the mesmer I chased all the way to the rooftop.

Whitebeard.5172:

I have to say it was funny last night when Deyja stopped in Bay and said “food break”….“eat”. I have little doubt that most everyone did a quick fridge raid.
It’s all about taking the time to make sure the troops are fat and happy I guess.

It’s the little things that count.

Deyja is fantastic at leading Zerg v Zerg action ( and Zerg v Zerg v Zerg, as we found out).
Some really great fights from [RET] and [RISE], loved the large clash in west camp.
A great defence by FA at garrison, you guys just did NOT give up. Even when you were ahem cut off from your large reinforcements because they took a BIT too much fall damage, while jumping down from spawn right in front of the TC force.