The abj do a lot for the game and spark competition.Nos/Toker/zero have all been content creators and will give the community the meta builds, vods and commentary which will do great things for the game after PoF comes out.
Anet punished them already very harshly and it’s time to get over the fact that everyone else might have to “git gud”.The funny part is that the people complaining on this forum would never even participate and even aim to win the top prizes offered in the Monthly Ats etc.
While the original stance saying that “abj and alts” would be banned permanently from pvp was certainly misleading a Dev replied and cleared this misunderstanding.Any further complaining about this situation is fruitless and won’t accomplish anything.
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I’m permananently stuck Balthazars brawl after I did 1 ranked que after the daily at bugged again.I have 540 Qualifing points For the monthly at and fear that this bug will prevent me from participating.It just says “Waiting for opponent” and won’t let me que for anything in pvp
I need a fix before the monthly at pls……..HHHHHAAALLLP
Go to Obby Sanctum than go to Hotm. It worked for us
Change the last change from all autos from 3/4 to 2/4
Buff air 2 range from 450 to 600 (can’t make any z axis teles)
Buff fire 2 power impact damage and buff range to 600
Water/earth add projectile finisher
Unravel hexes removes all condis at a 1 sec interval (so your not forced into water/arcane)
Remove root from sword earth #3 (or buff damage)
After fully attuning the attunement cd swap time is halfed(fully attuning punishes way to hard)
I fooled around with the idea of insta double attuning but that breaks the design of weaver and it dumbs down the class.
Bye friends!
Change the last change from all autos from 3/4 to 2/4
Buff air 2 range from 450 to 600 (can’t make any z axis teles)
Buff fire 2 power impact damage and buff range to 600
Water/earth add projectile finisher
Unravel hexes removes all condis at a 1 sec interval (so your not forced into water/arcane)
Remove root from sword earth #3 (or buff damage)
After fully attuning the attunement cd swap time is halfed(fully attuning punishes way to hard)
I fooled around with the idea of insta double attuning but that breaks the design of weaver and it dumbs down the class.
Bye friends!
After theory crafting with phanta this is what we came up with
Change the last change from all autos from 3/4 to 2/4
Buff air 2 range from 450 to 600 (can’t make any z axis teles)
Buff fire 2 power impact damage and buff range to 600
Water/earth add projectile finisher
Unravel hexes removes all condis at a 1 sec interval (so your not forced into water/arcane)
Remove root from sword earth #3 (or buff damage)
After fully attuning the attunement cd swap time is halfed(fully attuning punishes way to hard)
I fooled around with the idea of insta double attuning but that breaks the design of weaver and it dumbs down the class.
Bye friends!
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When is the demo weekend?
When did I boost?
Good riddance abj.
Very unlikely but I hope there’s a new season after the expac or some sort of cash tourney officiated by Anet.That would be justice.
Ive already posted this elsewhere, but I think the ele subforum would be a great place to show eles how the class is played in top tier pvp
Monthly at against abj
Arie its all okay I just want anet to actually do something this time so it doesn’t repeat itself. Make an example out of these kids anet (I hope you’re alright arie was p deep gz)
Buddy anet has access the solid proof,all we need is to give them reasonable doubt so they actually look into it.Shouldnt take more than 30 min for them to find what they need
Since my earlier thread was removed for unknown reasons I will post again the vod to see for youself. Even if you don’t have my experience and know instantly that it was them u can see that they were running basically the same comp instead of with a guard who was asking for vpns 10hr earlier(on top of that almost no one but that team runs necromancer as well)
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/238051255623090177/338426343328841729/Capture.PNG ^the guardian who subbed
Everybody in the community knows it and is pleading for anet to do something to make sure these ats cannot be bought , whether or not they want to punish and proof the boosted players is up to them. I cannot release the names of the players on the forums but they had 1 sub and it was a very well named DH whos been banned from ranked que and leaderboard for previous infractions. So he dodging a ban on top of the other shenanigans.
People want to know that the people who won the rewards are actually the players who participated if otherwise it defaces the entire competition.
My twitch vod here https://www.twitch.tv/videos/161186383
Anet has the tools to investigate(for one they know what computer they were using and they could just see that the same computer played on those 2 accounts).
People like dafran in OW get banned just for throwing in ranked que nowhere near recklessness of boosting in a popular tourney,if anet doesn’t do anything against the 10 players involved than they just don’t care, which honestly could be the case.
Here’s some “proof” that’s just the tip of the iceberg.Theres plenty more I won’t disclose here.
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/238051255623090177/338426343328841729/Capture.PNG
God of pvp asking for a vpn less than 12 hrs before the tourney.Ofc alone this alone doesn’t prove everything but theres more evidence than that which I won’t show on the forums.
PS when u cheat the best tactic is silence so u don’t Incriminate yourself.
I’m very in touch with the playerbase in NA and I only know of 2 people who have received “dishonor” for the remainder of the season who have already received multiple temp bans.Arena pretends it’s doing ban waves when ik Lora of people who are blatantly match fixing and nope…nothing.They only pretend on here they’re doing something to ease tensions and relations.Look at the last monthly at for example everyone knows that those players were not who they said there were and were infact the #1 team NA.Whatever they do now sets a precedent or the future,and whether or not they’ll simply just take away the rewards from the boosted account or punish the perprators who sold them the win in the first place
it was scummy and they knocked all out of decent teams that deserved higher rewards by knocking them out earlier than they shouldve in the tournament by a combination of doing the minimum qp in order to knock out higher seated teams and also by the unexpected factor of unrecognizable pvers playing on a top tier level and getting the jump on people.
Obviously the fact that they won should be enough evidence for everyone to agree that it was Abj.
But the “solid” evidence youll need to actually take action is up to you after repeated offenders continue to make a mock out of you.
Scrapper is the best all around and it’s also very hard to +1 since it has passive s and insane sustain.Disenchanter Mesmerv engi is a interesting matchup tho and it can go either way but it’s engi favor.
Also rev doesn’t beat menders engi if you play well.And even if u struggle in them at matchup,your rev is winning the teamfight and your thief can 1shot that rev at any time.
Hi,Jeffie here.Im a competitive player who have played on multiple top level teams in the past and my best buddy kralle(best Druid NA) or myself could help you it if you want to improve!Pm in game if u want help
Ofc a game needs to fuel high end competition in order for anybody to want to get better at the game.Without support for tournaments pvp will
and has already died significantly.I don’t know if anybody at anet actually cares about it now that grouch left but letting gw2s active combat and best platform out of any MMO die,would be a crime.Maybe with the next expansion they’ll reconsider but without communication and support for pvp,you can’t blame anybody for leaving the game.
I still believe in gw2 and love playing it.But pvp is dying and something needs to be done or anet needs to come out and say something rather than keeping using the dark.
Gw2 is a great game,the community loves the game so much they’ve filled the empty void after anet quit endorsing esports with their own tournaments.We don’t need much help from anet were just asking for them to incentivize the ats to make it worth while
Soo…….“soon”
I think bo1s are okay until the semi finals everything from there should be bo3s
Also address class stacking because it creates a unbalanced mess and undermines the whole reason you should practice with a “team” in these tourneys.
Let’s chill out bois and keep it constructive and related to the thread
well the “pros” could alt account and honestly limiting the pros won’t do anything for the game,and why should lesser skilled people be getting the same rewards as pros in a competitive environment just because they avoid the matchups the pros play in?This isn’t a reward track….earn it and “git gud”
This is also assuming that the rewards will be attractive enough to make teams actually want to compete.
Tournament rewards will receive a revision soon™.
Thanks for a response Ben!
Weren’t you one of the players actively participating in match manipulation. why should anyone listen or even take your comment on board after showing such a disregard for the pvp community.
I’ve never been banned for match manipulation and I’ve never cheated to get a title on the leaderboard.I just want. A successful automated tourney because it has so much potential
Well unfortunately anet has decided to quit sponsoring or providing any real avenue for the “pros” to compete in so most of them won’t be competeting anyways.As far as beginner teams tier of play, they can just 5man unranked and duel or pm me and other people to try and set up casual scrims for them to get some expierence playing together.But by playing better teams in the at that in itself will help teams improve by just observing and expierencing top level play firsthand.
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Hi It’s me Jeffie,I’m here to tell anet what they need to do to make automated tourneys a success.
In NA it’s went from 64 teams to 6 in 2 weeks because of the lack of rewards the daily tournament provides.It also doesn’t give team expierence because no starting teams are going to face anybody remotely decent because the rewards are absolutely terrible.
Issues with the ats directly:
No bracket system no way of knowing who you’re going o fight next.
CLASS STACKING?????This makes ats useless as a way to create and practice with teams as the game cannot handle class stacking in competitive team play and it’s clear reason to why every tournament for the last couple years has banned it….
Participation incentive:
Giving great rewards will create competition and beating competitive players in a team environment is the most challenging content in this game and what do you give as reward?5gold?
Giving Great rewards will give incentive to play more than 2 games to get 100 qp and it will also give starting or mid level teams the environment to face those teams and learn from their mistakes.I don’t know exactly what you’ll determine as good rewards but maybe like 50g and 1 ascended mark will be enough but I’m just spitballing here.
The main point is,why should players form teams if there’s 0 rewards when they do.
Anet this system could potentially be great,just give the players a reason to form teams and play.
Edit:Also possibly having 1 "main tournament a day during prime time with the better rewards would be great!That way people have to play against each other and not just wait till 1:00am when no one is playing.
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Well aero I mean even if the the top teams always take the 1st spot you’ll get qualifying points just for playing.Itll just make the other teams have to do more AT’s to prove that their worthy for the monthlies.
Winning competetive tournaments in pvp is the hardest content gw2 has to offer and anet gives 5 gold a daily win??? Why would any body do more than 2 get their qualifying points and leave?How does that encourage other teams to practice and get better by playing those teams?Also the tourney takes like 1.5 -2hrs to complete so 5g? that’s ridiculous
Make the rewards somewhere around 50g a win and PLEASE FOR THE SAKE OF PVP REMOVE CLASS STACKING
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As a participant in the the pro scene for over a year I plead to youDO NOT ALLOW CLASS STACKING. That will lead to the most broken comps imaginable.Please just please dont
We are taking about a tournament 5v5 team play perspective btw peeps
It wasn’t an ESL scale tournament sure,but considering we haven’t had a tournament in almost 8 months people have been waiting for a opportunity to make a team and compete.Now for plenty of the people who don’t multiclass they’ve been essentially left out a new developing scene.
As far as premade 5v5 team play?No absolutely not,ask anybody who’s relevant to the scene.
There is a scene lol?
Yes jebros hosting a tournament which has over 1k now In community funded prize money which brought back a lot of former pro players .
That is not a scene…. that is just one tourney.
But it was at least a start!
And btw can we keep the discussion balance related and not just trolls trying to delegitimizate what this thread was created for .
As far as premade 5v5 team play?No absolutely not,ask anybody who’s relevant to the scene.
There is a scene lol?
Yes jebros hosting a tournament which has over 1k now In community funded prize money which brought back a lot of former pro players .
As far as premade 5v5 team play?No absolutely not,ask anybody who’s relevant to the scene.
Before last Tuesday,every single class had a viable build to play at all tiers of competition.It seems that because of the narrow minded forum goers who described the meta as stale and boring(tho it was the fastest paced meta since HoT)Anet had effectively removed 3 or 4 classes from top tier competitive play.Why.
Last meta you could theory craft around teamfight comps or fast paced 3 point squishy comps etc,but regardless every profession could be substituted In someway with the exclusion of ele which was present in all team comps.
Before the patch the balance changes needed to tune down a few things and buff the classes who were getting slightly outshines by others.
For example:
Guardian:needed slight buffs in order to compete and adding the reveal on pull and leaving it as is would’ve been enough to see it be a potential pick.
Warrior:Was almost perfect as outplaying a warrior was fairly simple and the only thing that was needed for was a slight cast time nerf to headbhtt and a great sword f1 hangs which would reduce the range to around 200-240.
Druid was getting outshined by engi and only needed a slight. Uff such as giving it back unblockable on activation of signet of the wild and it would’ve been perfect.
Engi needed sustain nerfs to bunker down and prot injection like what they got.
Thief:simply needed icd on pulmonary impact (2 or 3) seconds.
Mesmer:clone production nerf was fine and should’ve been left alone.
Ele:left alone
Necro:left alone
Rev:left alone
Very minor changes is all what was needed in order to create a competitive atmosphere for all professions and to create a variety of different team comps and play styles to choose from.
Post patch there is 1 maybe 2 comps left which has 3 or 4 mandatory picks.
You cannot compete without Ele/engi/necro/thief right now and the 5th slot can only be a rev or a Mesmer. Guardian/warrior/Druid were all completely removed from competitive play.Was this the right choice?Or have they completely lost touch with the pvp community?
Obviously I didn’t address all the buffs and nerfs and only hit the main points of the problems of the latest patch,but regarding the harsh reaction from everyone I know whos left of the community,you need address the problems and communicate with the player base.
Fix this
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Should be great fun!
This will be just for NA or for both regions?Are you limited “pro players” to only 2 per team like some other tourneys? I heard somewhere there were going to be like 4$ tourneys with the prize pool increasing as the community donates.Great initiative i know a lot of people who have been waiting for a opportunity to play competitively again.Great work!
Without incentive to practice and organize teams to compete in higher end gameplay.Everyone has left the game mode because not only has the rewards for the PVE’rs been slashed,The balance is the same as last season(even tho I enjoy it others want a change of pace) and with the contract with ESL being gutted there’s no reason to play and get better.
Every competitive player is waiting for the chance to come back and play and the ones that haven’t left or playing casually in the memories of what once was.
Rumour has it that there was supposed to be automated tournaments by now? What happened?
The community can only do so much and the complete lack of cooperation and communication with the player base has just lead to extreme frustration to anyone hoping to compete.
This game has the best platform out of any game of its kind.It has infinite potential and the only thing holding it back seems to be the people in charge.
Please anet!This is a great idea,the competitive player base needs something to keep them around.Long time players of more than 3years are leaving and you must invest in the population.Without any high end support for pvp there’s no incentive to play ESP silly after the rewards for the pveers were heavily nerfed.
Communicate please!
Well I was fortunate enough to get into the scene during the last tourney but there’s was several players who wanted to practice really hard to form a team and compete.Is a real shame and now that there’s no incentive for competitive team play the population of this game will dwindle down to nothing.Great job you let a game with the best platform I’ve ever scene die due to poor and inadequate management.
Hi Jeffie here!I love the imitative your bringing to the scene and
hopefully this will be the new academy gaming!If I can help out at all lemme know Olrun!
It’s not just condi thief it’s all acro staff.
The main problem is acrobatics lines crazy synergy with daredevil creates crazyyyy evade up time which is broken not relevant in top tier matches and is all around just a troll build used by 1v1rs and trolls to trigger the community.
If you think that’s bad I’ve lost -73 rating in a single game with no decay
Thank you Evan this is a big problem and has lost me several games.
Top twitch streamers are abusing this and it’s silly.
Either make it so people are still on respawn when they come back or lock characters once the match begins.While we’re at it we can ban the cheaters who have their buddies purposely throw to inflate a bad players rating
That’s a great idea that’s worth lookin into!Problem is proving someone who intentionally throws matches is very hard to deceifer between playing bad and throwing.But certainly I’ve seen numerous people do it in all tiers of play and it’s a problem that exists in all games.Only way is to check the top 10s chat logs or something which is probably a lot of work for the devs
Thank you Evan this is a big problem and has lost me several games.
Top twitch streamers are abusing this and it’s silly.
Either make it so people are still on respawn when they come back or lock characters once the match begins.
Odds are he doesn’t understand the game and is just bad
Hi Jeffie here!The only thing I’m guilty of is smurfing/alt accounting which virtually every top player that ques has done to some extent.If you do so believe I’m match manipulation you can check my twitch and anet if your here. Feel free to go through my chat logs.But honestly it shouldn’t matter since I’ve stopped occupying the top spots on the leaderboard(which I did intentionally).