Guild Wars 2

Unfortunate to see accusations of cheating flying so soon.

I have no recollection of anyone in abyss using zoom hacks, in fact if I recall right, last night people were complaining on darkhaven of IOJ and FC using zoomhacks.

So just because an AC hits you does not mean people are using zoom hacks. (heck I don’t even know how you would hack a mmorpg). This goes for DH, IOJ, and FC.

And abyss being “zergy”, yes we may have some numbers, but it is coordinated zerg, not “lets all follow blindly with tunnel vision”

So…Hello, nice to meet you, hope to have some fun battles. (Last night was a lot of fun). Look for the Dolyak with a kite…or giant thing with christmas lights attached with a kite…or a quaggan with a kite, or a giant snowman bouncing aroudn…or an Asura with a charzooka… because that will probably be me! /wave. (look for a blue kite, any other is just an impersonator)

lol wtf?! haha that is insane, so..killing shot…as in he was downed and you pressed “f” to finish him off?

Why do you always kill the innocent dolyak with the kite? Or perhaps mini-quaggan with a kite?

I just want to say hello and frolic in the grass near you guys!

Good fights so far btw, have had some epic battles this week for sure

I have a question for any of you non-darkhaveners:

Can you hear my horn when I play music around you when you are dead?

You might have noticed an Asuran Engineer from [Abys] running around playing “Taps” to you as you lie dead at my feet, in which I /salute you after I am done.

I am just curious if you can hear the sweet tones of my trumpet as I play a final ballad to send you on your way?

Or are my magical melodies falling on deaf ears?

/salute

Darkhaven! :-P

(we are a middle tier server, we have been doing well lately!)

Hey guys,

I am a big fan of the musical instruments that have been released recently. My favorite part?: Playing “taps” on the trumpet (or horn if you want to call it that) to the numerous dead enemies in WvW.

My question: Can they hear the music?

As they (the enemies) lie there, pondering this asuran engineer (me) standing over their now flea-ridden corpses, can they hear the sweet tones of my trumpet as I play a final ballad to send them on their way?

Or are my magical melodies falling on deaf ears?

/salute

Be wary of the [Abys] herd! [literally a herd] (This footage is from a week or so ago)

http://youtu.be/QGL7Q7ThDNM (My amature video editing skills on display)

((Start at 4:09 if you want to skip the first half))

Was fun last night in keining(sp) borderlands! [Abys] had some awesome fights against you guys!

Cheers to more fun!

I agree, it would be nice to have them back since the game has stabilized a lot more since they removed dolyak rewards so long ago.

Maybe if they would reward you for damaging the mobs that attack the dolyaks? Or if you spent (x) amount of time near the dolyaks while they were walking?

I know they took it out because all people were doing it escorting dolyaks in big mobs (which we need our dolyaks).

and @dagneyandleo, what was funny.

Actium.8765:

Kami.7369:

Slartibartfast.2170:

So I was reading that a guild left Darkhaven? Who is the bandwagon jumper this week? Just curious!

And I like Ethersin a lot, a very enjoyable commander to be under. I also enjoy Rethesis, they seem to know how to get stuff together and take things! (Well, the few golem crashed I have been to were cool.)

So what guild left this time? Was it one who joined us last week because we were winning? Or was it one who joined the week before last because we were winning?

Sorry it is hard to keep track of all the guilds who come and go so often…

So..what guild was it that left this time?

There’s a rumor and nothing more. People causing drama.

It’s not a rumor, alot of HVN and Icoa left darkhaven, HVN mostley went to Sorrows Furnace and Icoa went to Blackgate. They tried recruiting me to go there today.. lol

Ah well dang.

Oh well, nothing new here, just like when we lost a guild to SoR when they were stomping us. Bandwagon jumpers will be bandwagon jumpers.

Edit: I guess the guilds didn’t leave, just some individuals.

Kami.7369:

There’s a rumor and nothing more. People causing drama.

Well, that’s good news then! I think Darkhaven has been doing very well ever since Sanctum of Rall layed the smackdown on us.

You can’t win every week and I think that Aspen just has way more people that wvw more often that either of us two servers.

But..it happens! I know I am still havin a good time!

So I was reading that a guild left Darkhaven? Who is the bandwagon jumper this week? Just curious!

And I like Ethersin a lot, a very enjoyable commander to be under. I also enjoy Rethesis, they seem to know how to get stuff together and take things! (Well, the few golem crashed I have been to were cool.)

So what guild left this time? Was it one who joined us last week because we were winning? Or was it one who joined the week before last because we were winning?

Sorry it is hard to keep track of all the guilds who come and go so often…

So..what guild was it that left this time?

Got to love cheesy Maguuma stacking tactics. I still don’t understand why they keep this mechanic in game.

Either way, nice portal bombs Maguuma, you really whooped our arses with those. Still, stacking on Keep Lord, very cheesy.

[sic] One day in darkhaven, all our land was gone, and we were short handed – the enemy was camping us and people were feeling frustrated. I personally kept running out on suicide missions into a massive zerg as people started voicing how it was hopeless…

Long live Darkhaven!!!

Having troubles quoting, but I love this. I am all about humor and fun in WvWvW. While commanders may get angry and short with people, I make light and have fun. It is all about the mentality you have while playing. I love constantly making jokes and just having a good time.

Sure it can get frustrating when you are losing, but it only takes a few to encourage everyone! I am with you on running out and suiciding. I do it too! When two zergs come upon each other…who is the one to run into their zerg??? I AM! You will be surprised how easy it is to discombobulate a zerg by running into them. Sure I may die, but the 15 people who turn around to chase me die too because their zerg splits off to chase 1 lone asura.

Be funny, be inspiring. Don’t resort to name calling and naysaying. No one likes to see crap talked in teamchat about how crappy the server is. Make a joke..move on. If you are that upset, log out and take a break.

Otherwise…beyond jokes..it can be difficult to rally people to play when you are losing so badly, but just roll with it! Grab some friends..take some supply camps…by doing this..you might actually get more people out there when they see that your server is actually taking things!

I saw one on Darkhaven that would all go as the same color, but unfortunately the color doesn’t translate to enemy realms because we all are the color that our server is that week (Red/green/blue).

Other than that I am not sure, but all all Asura guild would rock :P

I agree, despite the bickering, I think that the way arenanet setup the WvWvW was great. I constantly talk about how I wish warhammer or daoc had a supply system like in GW2 because it makes camps that much more important.

In WAR, you had those extra camps that didn’t mean anything to capture really. But with the fact that they provide supplies, and you need supplies to upgrade keeps and build siege…it makes them sooooo much more important.

I also like the dolyak idea, but I think it is unfortunate that you no longer get anything for escorting them (Though if you do escort them and they die,y ou sometimes get rewards, strange.)

But yes, despite a few flaws and hackers, I think the WvWvW setup is great. The only thing that would make it even greater and is a super easy fix at this point would to stop server transfers. — but I won’t go into that.

Either way, Kudos! I enjoy the 3 sided fights, the weekly changing of who we fight as well as server rankings. Just need to stop those darn free server transfer! :P

lol the week just started, how is it over already? Sure I just logged in an hour ago and Crystal Desert controlled most of the map with Darkhaven controlling maybe 20%, but I just woke up? There is a whole day ahead of us.

And let the bandwagoners jump, we don’t want them on Darkhaven.

Cheers to hopefully a good matchup this week. And if not, beers for the tears of those who will be crying.

I know…it just is so frustrating… I have little gold as it is and to have it be wasted beyond my control just erks me.

But I suppose bringing attention to the topic and discussing it helps alleviate the frustration…even if only slightly.

Who else is growing tired of being in the middle of a keep siege, tower siege, or anything WvW related where you spend amounts of your personal gold to setup siege, then arenanet comes along with a message saying “New build update, you will be kicked from WvWvW”.

Now, I wouldn’t be so upset if Arenanet gave a warning like “WvWvW is coming down in 30 minutes for an update”…that would be a lot more acceptable.

But bringing the WvWvW server down 30 seconds after the warning is really starting to piss me off. I believe it has happened to me 3 or 4 times now, with a total wasted gold on my end of about 1 total gold from losing catapults/other siege that I was using to take keeps/towers before the wvwvw server promtply shut down with very very very very very little warning.

Is this a ploy by arenanet to get more cash from us? They know WvWvW is a huge money sink anyways, so why not randomly bring the server down with little warning to force WvW people to waste even more money? -If so, are they not gaining enough money by getting people to waste gems on black lion chest keys with the .00001% chance of actually getting something good?

I am really getting sick of this. Anyone else?

/endrant

Hey guys, recently, us Darkhavenions crashed the party (literally). I saw accusations of exploiting, but I know recently we took Ehmry Bay’s orb very quickly, while taking down the gates. (However, the orb bugged and it reset so we really had to go take it by force), but he is a little video of the crash.

Thans [RE]Rethisis for coordinating this, first time I had seen it done and I was blown away!

(I am no video maker pro, so I apologize for the lack of glitz and glamour in my video. Also, for some reason after porting it over from FRAPs, it became slightly grainy.)

Anyways, enjoy! (Or don’t, feel free to mute the music :P)

Edit: Forgot to link it :P

We wouldn’t mind some morning players either! (8am Central Standard Time-3pm CST)

I play a lot during the day between college courses and we definitely could use more out to help the good fight! (Today actually went very well, we managed to take a bit of stuff from Shiverpeaks to help offset the score a little. Shiverpeaks seems to have a good amount of players that play during this time.)

Edit: The title already says we need daytime guilds, here I thought it was saying we need night-time guilds! Disregard/regard my post then! lol

Been having fun so far. Sometimes we on darkhaven get whooped royally, sometimes we are the ones doing the whooping. All depends on what time of day it is though.

Definitely notice that during the day, Darkhaven can’t generally hang with Shiverpeaks, but at night, (post 7pm CST) it seems Darkhaven begins to reign supreme.

Ehmry Bay: Keep up the good fight! I hope you guys can continue to stay in it and whoop both our butts!

So a decent fight so far! (Except “late night” I suppose!). Just please, I hope no server “gives up” leaving us a boring week of WvWvW.

I had loads of fun last night, (around 10pm-12am CST) and it was probably some of the best WvWvW fun I have had yet. Keeps were changing hands, SM was changing hands, supply camps were changing hands.

The best part I enjoyed (in eternal battlegrounds) was all the smaller battles going on around the map. 10 people trying to take a tower, 6 people fighting 6 people over a supply depot, 20 people fighting at SM, all going on at once, in the same battleground. There just seemed to be battles everywhere!

I hope the fun continues, and even if Darkhaven caps at night, it doesn’t mean you guys have to give up! Point accumulation is point accumulation, whether you get 1st,2nd, or 3rd.

Cheers to hopefully a good week of WvWvW!

Hopefully we can have a decent fight this week! Was curious who were on Darkhaven were paired with! Hopefully this doesn’t end up like the last 2 weeks and 1 side absolutely dominates the other 2!

Good luck! Have fun!

If you guys were only aware of the beating we Darkhaven people took last week at the hands of SoR.

On top of that some of our guilds left…they are LUN-ey for doing so, but good riddance to those LUN-ey (think loony toons) guilds that left, we don’t want traitor cowards on our server anyhow. Those LUN-ey guilds aside, when the server first rolled over, we as Darkhaven we worried it would be a repeat of last week (well, some of us in Darkhaven Borderlands as we were getting double teamed because both sides wanted the orb).

So don’t give up yet, I hope this match is somewhat even…but I haven’t seen the current score. All I know is last night when I logged about 10pm CST, we were not in first place, but I saw the screen above in which we controlled almost the whole map?

Darkhaven is not some powerhouse server, 2 weeks ago we had the best matchup in wvwvw so far, but last week, well, last week sucked and as a result people xferred off our server, so I am a bit surprised how this is going so far!

Anyways, best of luck to everyone, hopefully we can have some fun!

Darkhaven currently has insta-ques on all maps, (most of the time, prime-time it may take 5-10 minutes to get into a map solo que).

We have generally good coordination going on between some of the wvwvw guilds and what not. Always could use more friendly faces to help fight the good fight! We generally have guilds fighting mostly all of the time (morning/day/night), so it isn’t desolate, but we aren’t a high pop server as far as wvwvw really.

(last week, I believe our wvwvw had one of the closest point values of any other wvwvw server match up…however this week we were paired with the same servers as last week and one of the opposing servers are running away with it (the score) pretty badly :P. We can definitely compete, but I am not going to lie and say our server is the elite of the elite.) :P

(Had to put in a plug since other servers were :P)

I would love to quote all who’s posts I reply to..but unfortunately there is no multi-quote button. Unless I am missing something.

hyttemaier.7950:

A: I think you are thinking of caps lock in a wrong way, dont think of a commander yelling at you, but think of it as a tool to stand out in the chat and get peoples attention, we all know how the chat can be somedays, 10 different people telling everyone where they need to be at the same time, that + a troll or two, commanders need to be heard, but i think arenanet should give commanders some better tools, maby a commander only chattext colour? on screen orders? the system needs improvements i agree on that.

only want to comment on A, since i agree on the rest.

I do misinterpret the caps sometimes, I should have worded myself better, but you have the angry caps users shouting angry comments, and then the commanders who use it to be seen. But you are right, I shouldn’t talk down to the practice of all caps in the current state of the game, but it’s just so hard to shake the notion of the past of whenever I see all caps, its usually someone being something other than productive, so while I do understand that the caps can help people see them, new players, or even player ssuch as me may misintepret them or become annoyed without understanding the reason behind the caps.

I agree that it would be nice to give the commanders an option to talk in a differnt colored chat, or perhaps a commanders “channel” with a seperate color to it that appears in the main chat that only people with the commander title can chat in
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As far as knowing the best siege spots, or caverns..I guess my eyes got opened last night when…a fellow on my realm rallied people to attack a keep, but through an underground passage… I didn’t play beta, but played since release and almost exclusively in wvwvw and I had no idea there was an underground passage into a keep! So I suppose this kind of knowledge is what I am reffering to. Maybe high areas near keeps/towers to set up shop and siege from that are superior to say..other spots. —Example: There is this very large mound near a tower..someone had set up a catapult up there and zergs ran by many times without even realizing someone was up there shooting at them. -- That kind of information and tactics can really help sometimes. Whether army commander, squad commander, or what have you.
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As far as the post about squad commanders, that is excellent. I totally agree. Usually I see a few commanders out and about moving groups around and will hop into their “mini zerg” (no insult intended, just using names to reference groups of people) and ask them what their plan is and where they are going, and generally they are communicating with each other and helping to direct those who are asking in team chat “Where is the fight?…Where do you need me?…I have rams, arrow carts, trebs, where do you want them?”… No one likes wasting their blueprints, sometimes they wouldn’t mind a nice suggestion of where they are needed.
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Anyways, again – not trying to say all commanders need these things..just trying to start discussion and see what people think themselves I don’t expect everyone to know everything, I know I definitely don’t…but perhaps just trying to get things out there to discuss, and perhaps keep in mind while just out and about on the field.

It was great that this guy knew about this underground passage..granted the attack was unsuccessful, we came darn close. Heck we had a hard enough of a time getting most of our players down into the passage because they were confused and couldn’t find it :P.

Billy Mcfloy.4830:

The reason it seems like SoR is zerging is because of the little numbers SF and DH have, making it seem like the force you are facing is that much bigger. You said DH numbers have declined and that’s all it is right there. Not that they have declined AND our numbers have went up. If that were true our force would be giant.. but it’s usually 20 people and at prime times when 2 servers ARE actually on at the same time it’s about the same amount of players. It’s because your side is currently demoralized and SoR is on top which keeps the PVErs interested and participating too.

When DH lost the lead it wasn’t sudden, it was neck and neck and as they slowly went into second less and less people started playing. If SoR wasn’t in the lead i’m sure less of the PVErs or carebears would not be consistently participating but that’s the way it is. The way I see it is SoR has already won this week and DH/SF have quit now we are just riding out the week.

As for transfers I doubt anyone would want to randomly transfer to this mid ranking match up, if anything they would go to the more popular higher ranking ones. Trust me i would also much like to see a more even match next week. Winning to the point where the enemy no longer wants to play is not much fun for us competitive players either.

You make some very good points, I didn’t think about our lack of numbers making your numbers look bigger, very good point. Just so much speculation and rumors about people xfering to your guys server, its hard to dismiss or not think about it.

And I definitely agree, when one side is winning, more people come play, especially the non-pvp type of people. I have heard it from my own guild, from people on my own server when I ask in PvE for more people to join. (The thing I hear is, “Oh we are winning, well heck I want to come out then!”)

And you are right, it was neck and neck, then once the slide happened, it turned into a landslide that we couldn’t stop. Now it seems to be like pulling teeth to get people to turn out, and when they do, and when we get rolled by SoR, they leave immedietly.

I know not many people will randomly xfer to mid population servers, but if guilds talked to other guilds from other servers and got them to transfer.. then thats one thing, and also, if people do randomly transfer to SoR, it is probably coming from Darkhaven/Sarrows Furnace, lol, but that happens to any server when the one server is dominating.

But yea..very good points, helped to put it in perspective. Cheers.

Since anyone can spend 100 gold to become a commander, it kinda leads to some people thinking they are in charge due to the fact that they spend the 100 gold.

So with this in mind, just having the commander status does not make you a good commander. What do you guys believe makes a good commander? I will pose a few questions and my thoughts.

1)The ability to communicate:
—A: Capslock is not cruise control for people to listen to you. In fact, it annoys some people (like me) and almost makes me want to just block you. (Edit on this: Perhaps I am too critical over this, as pointed out below by a fellow forum poster, it can be hard to see commanders well..commands when others are chatting, so without seperate chat colors, capslock can be a good way to help people see the commands.)

—B: Leading with the idea that not everyone will listen. How many of you have seen the people who start talking bad on people who aren’t following? (STUPID NOOBS, I SAID DON’T FIGHT AT SM, YOU WONDER WHY WE LOSE? IT’S BECAUSE YOU STUPID NOOBS). This is not an effective way to lead in my opinion. How about (Hey guys on SM, we could use you more over at ogre watch if you would like to come. We have about 15 assaulting the keep and could use a few more.) Or explain why SM is not a valid target at this time, without trash talking them. People are new and do not fully understand everything, so by being patient and explaining, it helps the overall realm in a positive manner.

—C: Voice chat versus actually typing (a big issue I have.) In a perfect world, everyone would join your voice chat channel and listen, but the reality is that probably 75% of the people don’t. I know this may erk you that people don’t join, but that doesn’t mean you have to ignore them. This issue I find in every game, the “vent crew” gets frustrated at the “PuGs” because the PuGs aren’t in vent. It really helps when the commander can effectively be able to chat in vent AND type in team/world chat, but I understand this can be difficult at times. However, people need to know what is going on regardless of them being in vent or not, they need commands “sometimes” just as much as the commanders need their bodies. Remember: pve-ers or new players may join wvwvw and if they run around lost, it might turn them away and you need all the soldiers you can get! (informed soliders are the best, answer questions, be patient, everyone is a “noob” at some point!)

2) Knowledge of the game: Areas in WvWvW where you can hide/place sieges, and as in 1, the ability to communicate properly to everyone and explain where and why we need to go there and wait.

—A: I know some servers really know the best spots to put siege weapons, those “exploit” spots that no one can reach you, those underground passage ways into keeps, those spots you can hide and no one can see you as they run past. I think it is important to know these things as a commander so you can effectively offer suggestions of where people should place siege when they might not know otherwise.

—B: Know about the classes. It is important to know how each class acts and what their roll is in WvWvW. Engineers, rangers, elementalists, (maybe some other classes?) are very important to help keep defenders off keep walls so they dont AOE everyone on the door. it is very important as a commander to remind people of t his (and as detailed in1) do it effectively without belittling people or getting angry. A good leader can hold their poise in any situation. (Edit: As pointed out below in a post, it can be difficult to control those in a PuG type zerg, especially without knowing what classes you have to work with. But within your own command group, knowing what classes you have to work with and what they are capabale of could help I would still say.)

—C: What siege weapons need to be put up first. Too often I see 6 see weapons thrown down when we dont have enough supplies for them all. it is important to remind everyone to build what we have first, 1 at a time, so you don’t have 6 half finished siege weapons that end up getting destroyed. Again, this information needs to be conveyed in typed chat and in a friendly non belittling manner. (Edit: As pointed out, you can’t control what everyone will do, I am always a follower of: you paid for the game, you can do what you want, but friendly reminders in main chat suggestings we focus on 1 siege at a time tends to help bring even a few people into focus maybe, I will still say.)

So, just some ideas I have…personal ideas, everyone’s ideas vary. This is not REAL war, no one is really dieing, nothing is really being lost but maybe pride (and money for repairs/siege)

So what do you guys think? Am I being too critical of what makes a good commander? Am I leaving anything out? Discusss?

I must say that whatever SoR is doing this week, unfortunately is it ruining my experience in WvWvW (a personal problem, you guys are just doing what the game is intended for, and that is to capture everything you can), But it sucks that I cannot log on and even hope to take/hold anything due to the massive amounts of SoR running around.

I don’t see how their numbers could be so bolstered without receiving a bit of transfers, they never seemed have had this many people out before, but what do I know, I am just some guy.

So saying that you don’t have transfers seems fishy to me, but its ok to deny that fact, I still give you guys props for winning. but don’t lie about how you guys are winning, Darkhaven’s WvWvW numbers have seriously declined and SoR have increased. I played last week, I saw who all was out there, I remember how even it was and how un-even it is now.

So I am not saying SoR cheats, I am not saying that they are only winning because they zerg, I mean, they are pretty organized I will give them that, but the server transfers are, at least in my opinion, is what is ruining..literally…everything wvwvw related across all servers in guildwars2.

Its not SoR fault that Darkhaven doesn’t want to pvp. It’s not SoR fault that people transfer to their server (or perhaps it is, guild leaders talking to other guild leaders getting them to transfer there). But the overarching issue is the fact that transfers are still free and can be done every day. It isn’t anyone’s fault but Arenanet. They could fix the issue that would help lead to a more balanced WvWvW, at least a stable balanced WvWvW, because as we have seen this week, there are bandwagon jumpers, and when you pair servers based on population, then allow everyone transfer basically whenever they want, the whole point of pairing servers based on population/points kinda goes out the window.

Either way, good job SoR, you have killed the enjoyment of WvWvW this week for me (but hey thats my personal thing, you guys are just doing your job and winning), so such is life. If we are paired with you guys as well as sarrow’s furnace next week, I am not sure what I will do, play it by ear but if I cannot enjoy WvWvW due to “whatever” is happening (lack of my server organiziation/players, enemy realms or my own realm exploiting/hacking/cheating, or just massive server transfering of people leading to a lack of people on my side playing and overwhelming numbers on the opposition’s side) then there is no point to play the game when all I am doing is getting spawn camped. I like my friends I have made on darkhaven and don’t want to server transfer, but it is definitely frustrating, lol, which sucks because I play a game to have fun, and frustration isn’t fun! (maybe I just need to take a break from wvwvw and not care)

But again…good job SoR, whatever you are doing (being super organized, convincing people to transfer to your server, convincing your pve-ers to join pvp, cheating, hacking, exploiting, dancing, eating donuts, whatever.) good work. I know what it is like to dominate in the way you guys are, but I also found it boring that there was no competition and to own everything, “almost” as boring as not being able to capture anything :P. I say almost because when you are winning, being bored is OK, but when losing, and so badly..well..just insult to injury :P

Good luck next week if we all are lucky enough to be paired with different servers! (well Darkhaven and Sarrows Furance might be happy to have a new pairing, SoR might be happy to pound us into the dirt again :P)

I think a lot of it comes down to the fact that it is ArenaNet’s fault for allowing server transfer to be free for so long.

Especially in the initial case of them being instant. I don’t see a reason for instant server transfers. (So they can play with their friends!)

Ok..so you want them to play with their friends, let them! Give them 1 free transfer to transfer to play with their friends..then give them a week cooldown.

How many friends do you have on all these different servers that warrants a free instant transfer, or even a 24 hour transfer?

A week+ would be sufficient cooldown timer if Arenanet wants to keep them free, but I don’t understand how they can justify having such a low “server transfer cooldown” based on the idea that they want people to play with their friends.

Unfortunately the “play with your friends” has turned into “play with the server who is winning wvwvw”.

We will see how the scores progress as the week goes on..well..thursday/friday, but I have a feeling the gap is going to just keep widening. Unless we can flip these fully upgraded SoR towers/keeps to a different faction, I don’t see anyone catching up, but hey look on the bright side…maybe we will get some new servers to fight..

Dinks.2478:

I don’t know if SF players jumped to SoR, nor do I care. I play on SF and the general idea I and according to SOME other SF players who have posted on this agree on. Is that we are just not in the mood to work twice as hard just to compete with the night capping. SoR seems to have developed a night game now. Which is why they are able to dominate so much now. They have people capping and defending day and night.

SF is demoralized, tired and hopefully I feel we’re just taking the week off.

I also hope that if we do get matched up the same again next week that they at least mix up our colors so we get the different areas of EB.

I hear you man. I play on darkhaven and am getting demoralized myself. After last weeks matchup and how close it was, it is sad to see how this weeks matchup is going. I mean at the point of this post Darkhaven is earning +30 points per tick.. I just had to log because there is nothing we can do, SoR is dug in so deep and it seems their numbers have icnreased, I don’t even see a speck of Sarrow Furnace anywhere at all.
(Odd though because they still retain their keeps while darkhaven loses all theirs, but perhaps thats where Sarros Furance is…defending their keeps.)

Hopefully if they do decide to rematch us again for a 3rd week, they will actually rotate where we are instead of keep us the same yet again.

I just hope the two underdog realms can get something going and make it a decent matchup again, but having people transfer from Darkhaven and Sarrows Furnace to Sanctum of Rall isn’t helping things out.

I will be curious to see if the cycle continues though. Because if Sanctum of Rall gets paired with bigger servers next week, then gets their butts kicked, they may lose their newly acquired bandwagon jumpers to the other servers, but then again if they do well, they could bolster their server with new jumpers. When will the bandwagon jumping cycle discontinue?

/sarcasm Thank you Arenanet for supporting bandwagon jumping.

Yes, this is the biggest flaw of the game and I believe is causing people to quit playing more than anything (that is if they are into pvp).

It ruins the fun, it ruins server unity, it is stupid and pointless. If Arenanet really wanted to make money, they would force people to pay to transfer servers.

The spying, the cheating, the servers going empty or just losing terribly at wvwvw as a result is saddening me. It is causing me to not want to play as much because the server I am on seems to be losing people while the servers we fight seem to gain people.

What is arenanet thinking? – obviously not too much about wvwvw – they were doing everything so right and well, until this major blunder that is causing wvwvw on many servers to implode.

It might be hard to say that arenanet even cares, because as a buy2play game, they don’t get subs, so why care if people quit? The ones who stay (especially these hardcore guilds) will be more than happy to continue buying gems from them and their item shops – thus giving them the money that they seem to care about more than anything. Well, they don’t care about money enough to make people pay for transfers..but perhaps they are making enough at the moment to not care about that.

mulch.2586:

It was false flattery. Your English seems very typical to me.

No ’fense.

lol, I wasn’t bragging about my English, I was more looking to to the fact that the gold seller actually responded to me, as well as tried to flatter me.

Also – it isn’t like I am writing a college paper, just a forum post is all.

Hey guys, while innocently playing guildwars2 last night, I received a tell saying…

“Hello, do you want to buy some gold? (insert link)”.

Being funny, I replied and said “Hello, I would very much not like to purchase gold from you.”

Moments later, I received a message back from the same person.. “Your english is so great.”

Stunned that a goldseller actually replied..I reply again “lol, yours too.”

So they reply “thanks.”

I then reply, “I almost want to buy gold from you because you are so polite, but I think gold selling/buying is terrible so I apologize that I will never buy gold from you.”

It takes longer for them to reply this time…but they said “Well, just save the website so if you ever need to buy gold, then you know where to go.”

Let me say this: I hate gold sellers, I hate e-mail spam, I hate getting tell spam, but never had I ever had a gold seller actually respond to me; let alone try to flatter me by telling me that my english is great.

Funny stuff. Don’t buy gold. Don’t sell gold. Just do the hokey pokey and turn yourself around, because that’s what it’s all about!

Its nice to see people from other servers sharing their input.

I transfered to this server from Blackgate, whether this was a good idea or not, I don’t know. According to the scored, backgate is towards the top…but I am getting off my planned topic…

I noticed someone mentioned, “Why does Darkhaven not attack Yaks, why do they keep attacking us when Yaks is dominating?”

I posed the same question in team chat in eternal battlegrounds last night to my fellow Darkhaven people. The response? “Well, Yaks is so far ahead, why should we try to catch up, we need to beat anvil rock since we are so close.”

So there you have it, while I definitely don’t agree with this idea, it is how many people were feeling. They wanted to win, and to win, they had to pick on someone, which in this case was Anvil Rock. I tried and tried to say, “Let’s take ogre watch” (currently controlled by Yaks) but no one would break away from taking things from Anvil Rock.

Now don’t get me wrong here, I am not saying we should form an alliance (i dont think server-server alliances are right) but when one side is dominating, it makes sense to me that we should take THEM down a peg, not finish off the 3rd side which is really our only defense from the dominating server attacking us.

I also see a lot of darkhaven people refusing to listen to anyone. this is fine, you paid your fees, but when we have 20+ people constantly attacking a heavily fortified keep and continiously dieing and not gaining any ground while the rest of us are actually trying to accomplish something, it grows frustrating.

What grows frustrating more is when 10 people walk by my downed body and after me politely asking “Hey guys, could one of you get me up?”, I receive no replies except my own side trampling over my body.

I love to pvp, I love WvWvW, i have a lot of fun, win or lose. I think Darkhaven really needs a guild to step up and lead. I would love to join and help lead, or follow, but either way, we need to get our dedicated WvWvW players together into one guild so we can properly fight back. (granted this might cause some armchairs generals to have conflicts with each other, but so be it, I feel I am a great mediator.)

You dont have to leave your current guild, Guild Wars 2 is nice enough to allow you to be in many guilds, but I guess my thing is, when you jump into WvWvW, if your current guild isn’t involved, why not throw on and represent the guild that is involved in WvWvW and help our server reach a new heights?

Piccolo.7296:

I don’t see an issue with spies. I mean, this is war after all. We have people in the US military who spy on other countries. So what is the problem here?

It wouldn’t be so bad if we could catch these spies, try them and execute them. Granted, execution is a bit of an extreme term, but we have no way of combating people who spy, where as in the real world, there are definitely consequences for spying, for the spy and for the country the spy is coming from.

Now I understand a post has been made that (insert server needs to break alliance with insert server), but I believe this is a problem beyond these two servers.

In more than one instance has my server been double teamed. Granted I have no direct proof besides how the map looks and how the two realms are interacting.

When one server has zero presence anywhere on all three maps, and the other two servers have nearly equal divided presence, it kinda throws up a flag.

On the same note, when my server is attacking the castle near our gate, fighting one server, and the other server comes and flanks us and runs off, this raises flags too. —this happened several times that night, the server who flanked us NEVER attacked the server in the keep, attempted to take their keeps/supply depots and what not. So..as the map ended, we had barely anything, while the other two servers seemed to be dividing the spoils.

I have no proof, no vent conversations, no screenshots of people talking about it, but it seems pretty apparent when things like this occur.

Granted, I could be mistaken, perhaps the two servers just hated my servers name and were both bent on destorying us without attacking each other…I mean this is entirely possible, but with the ability to transfer servers being free, and the ability to message people from other servers, I begin to think that some server alliances are being formed.

It is very unfortunate too. No on likes being gate camped, and I wish it was more like dark age of camelot, which severely frowned on x-teaming and would ban people who engaged in such activity, but I also understand this is not dark age of camelot.

I am not sure if this is working as intended, if Arenanet fully supports server alliances teaming up to take down the 3rd server in order to further their own gains, but if so, that is sad.

I understand (Oh people should be able to ally and such, fight together!) yeah, well, if you want to do that, maybe you should transfer to their server and play with them.

I don’t support x-teaming, and I don’t like the idea that my server gets double teamed, or even if my server and another server double teamed the 3rd, it is unfair and wrong in my opinion.

I think that they hide WvWvW names and don’t allow you to talk in /say or /map for a reason. I wonder if that reason is to prevent x-teaming like is going on?

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I would love to see some actual guilds out there trying to direct and help rather than PuG-ers like me.

Granted, people do like to listen sometimes and I can, with others in chat, help control the mob and get something done, it would be great to have an actual group structure out there making moves and helping to direct those who don’t have their guild out there.

Also – guilds generally will pool money to buy siege weapons, which I think is fantastic. It is difficult buying all the rams/catapults solo (not rich enough to purchase trebs/golems.)

I am curious as to how they are recruiting players to another server when in WvWvW you cannot talk to each other?

Unless I am mistaken, which I don’t think I am, when I use /m or /s in WvWvW, people cannot see my chat unless they of my server.